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Pellicle mirror == SLT?

There is an existing article here on Wikipedia about the Pellicle mirror, it seems that SLT and Pellicle mirror are much the same. I would suggest merging the two articles. Any thoughts? SCΛRECROW 07:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems pellicle mirror is actually used in SLT cameras. It's possible to merge these articles. However, my intention with SLT article was to describe certain type of digital camera and compare it to other types of digital cameras (DSLR, EVIL, compact). Not sure if this content would be appropriate for Pellicle mirror. Satellite779 (talk) 07:48, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point. To me it seems that there is information in the pellicle mirror article that would be more suited here at the SLT camera article.SCΛRECROW 09:33, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Any source for that SLT uses pellicle mirror? Sony writes everywhere that it's a half-mirror splitting the beam into two. Pellicle mirror is a very special case of mirror made of ultra-thin material, more like a foil, which is clearly not a case. SkywalkerPL (talk) 13:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SLT is a DSLR

Just to make it clear. User:Satellite779 wrote in article that SLT is not a DSLR, which obviously is not the case. Yes, Sony promotes it all around comparing SLT to DSLR to increase sales, and show how "innovative" they are, but let's face facts:

  • DSLR stands for: Digital Single Lens Reflex - all the new Alphas are digital, they do have single lens and there's reflex in mirror. All conditions to become DSLR are met.
  • Sony itself refers to SLT as DSLR - example
  • Canon Pellix using basically the same concept was an SLR and noone denied it in '60s. Adding half-mirror to Nikon F2 also didn't made it a new type of camera. So no reason now to create on the wikipedia a new type of camera, lol.

Single-Lens Translucent Cameras are sub-type of DSLR as same as HDDSLR is a subtype of DSLR, or Pellix SLRs were subtype of SLRs. SkywalkerPL (talk) 13:57, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that SLT is not completely new camera design, but it's definitely not DSLR in a way most people think about DSLRs. E.g. mirror is fixed in position (except for sensor cleaning) and, more importantly, there's no optical viewfinder. So, if we want to merge information about SLTs to DSLR article, it would require major changes to DSLR article. I'm not sure if that could be easily done. I propose that this article stays, but that SLTs are described as a subtype of DSLR. Satellite779 (talk) 12:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. That's why there's separate article for this. It's not classical DSLR. Similar change happen when DSLR appeared - they are SLRs, only different in recording media - that's why they got separate section and they are separate kind of cameras, though still remain SLRs. Now SLT appear, they differ in method of viewing the image, so they should have separate article, yet it doesn't change the fact that they are DSLRs.
As for the mirror - curious fact - a patent that stands under the definition of SLT says that the mirror can be possibly movable while taking photos, just as in classical DSLRs, to give more light to sensor when needed. The fact Sony did not include this feature doesn't mean it won't, so we shouldn't focus on this as a "feature" characteristic to SLTs, cause it's more of a feature characteristic to A55 and A33 / whatever cameras Sony gonna release without it. Patent number is 20100045853. SkywalkerPL (talk) 08:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SLT != SLR The "reflex" part in SLR is in regard to the type of viewfinder. The light from the (single) lens passes through a pentaprism which rectifies the image reflected in the mirror. In a SLT the mirror is not used by the viewfinder at all. The image in the electronic viewfinder is the image captured by the image sensor. The mirror is only used to split the beam of light so that a phase detect autofocus system can be used.

Because of the above I have changed the section "Pellicle mirror SLR" to "Pellicle mirror SLT". A "pellicle mirror SLR" would be Canon Pellix or one of the other cameras mentioned in the article on pellicle mirrors. Amandashusse (talk) 08:58, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"EVIL" camera?

WTF is an EVIL camera? Is that an actual acronym - and if so, what does it stand for? - or is it just someone doing a maledit? I mean, wouldn't "MILC" be a more fitting, (slightly) less risible and equally pronouncible acronym? 193.63.174.10 (talk) 14:21, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

EVIL = "electronic viewfinder interchangeable lens". Mirrorless interchangeable lens camera would also work. Regards, decltype (talk) 14:17, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]