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Grammy awards amount is wrong

on the first section it says that they have won 4 grammys and they won 5 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.246.123 (talk) 02:13, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Whatsername unreleased music video

http://www.musicsrc.com/video/Green_Day_-_Whatsername_%28Official_Unrele.php?id=7F_9ND5SEDQ&artist=Green+Day&song=Whatsername Should we include this in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.200.230.74 (talk) 23:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

The reason that it was unreleased is because it had absolutely no relation to the lyrics at all. The lyrics speak of thinking about a girl, you can't remember her name. This video is nothing of it. Kerrang86 (talk) 21:24, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Obviously you don't know anything about the storyline of American Idiot. LOLHI IM QWERTY 19:13, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Band Photo and Current Members

I think the band photo should be changed to one only featuring actual members of Green Day, not one with a backup preformer in the immediate foreground.

Additionally, when the current members are listed, Billie, Mike and Tre should be the only ones listed. They are the only actual, recognized members of Green Day. The three musicians listed under with would be better placed under a separate header that better describes their actual position, such as current backup musicians, or touring backup. They are not members of the band, they are hired musicians. RyanDPD (talk) 05:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Didn't Green Day finally add a fourth member? JoelleLynn (talk) 07:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

No, however Jason White does perform backup with them, he is not an official member, and isn't limited to just Green Day. AlexanderAwful (talk) 21:22, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Here's a complete list of the additional (mostly on tour only) members:

Jason White (Guitar/Background Vocals) Jason Freese (Keyboards/Horns/Background Vocals) Ron Blake (Horns/Percussion/Background Vocals) Mike Pelino (Guitar/Background Vocals) Rick Davis (Guitar/Drums/Background Vocals) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.161.64.104 (talk) 04:34, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

They are all visible in the Bullet In A Bible DVD.

Also:

Jason White made a cameo appearance in the music video for When I Come Around. He was also playing as a regular band member in the music videos for Wake Me Up When September Ends and 21 Guns.

Kerrang86 (talk) 21:24, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. This is listed fine on the sidebar, but further down the article the touring musicians are credited as "with". I really think it would be more appropriate to list them as touring musicians, because that's what they are.RyanDPD (talk) 06:35, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I feel I should mention that they have added another backup guitarist for the 21st Century Breakdown tour: Jeff Matika. Rock drum (talk) 18:04, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I feel I should add that Green day have added another backup guitarist for the 21st Century Breakdown tour: Jeff Mattika. Rock drum (talk) 18:06, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Green Day has ripped multiple songs

Multiple Green Day songs have been claimed to be rips off other songs (Particularly their most famous 3)

Wonderwall - Boulevard of Broken Dreams - By Oasis http://www.cinemablend.com/music/Did-Green-Day-Rip-Off-Oasis-2099.html

American Idiot- Doublewhiskeycokenoice - By Dillinger four http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5iCc9RS_zU or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=advxtHtTkoQ

When September Ends - Its only time - Mark Curry (pointed out by El Hefe in the fatwreck podcast) http://www.amazon.com/Its-Only-Time-Mark-Curry/dp/B000008ERE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgTMZBv3Q_s - http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/window/media/page/0,,71695-2177828,00.html

-TheNinjaPirate (talk) 02:24, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.24.215 (talk) 01:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC) 

At least with the first article, even the writers didn't believe Oasis. "Noel Gallagher hates Green Day. He hates the rockers so much, in fact, that he is inventing reasons to deride them." All we can mention is that HE believes that Green Day has copied Oasis music.

Using the other links would be original research and the claimed offense has to be covered by a reliable source. Likely, if the non-Green Day artists are not taking action (except for talking and talk is cheap), there's nothing there, which is why no one (aside from Rolling Stone and another article covering the Rolling Stone article) is covering it. ~QuasiAbstract {talk/contrib} 09:13, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I find it ironic that Oasis has recently broken up and Green Day is still going strong. Karma. -Kerrang86

Its noted in the wiki page for American idiot "The whole song is similar to the intro riff from Dillinger Four's "Doublewhiskeycokenoice", written in 1997."" and also mentioned here http://www.punknews.org/review/3383

Verbally (on the fat wreck chords podcast) El Hefe from Nofx claims when September ends it was stolen from his former band mate Mark Curry. He's a hardly known artist so I doubt he'd ever have a case. I don't know how citing audio sources works -TheNinjaPirate (talk) 02:42, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Boulevard of Broken Dreams is the exact same chord progression as Wonderwall. Its not proof they ripped it off, but its damn compelling evidence that should be presented. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.155.26.30 (talk) 03:46, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Doublewhiskeycokenoice is actually played in a slightly different rhythm, and is also played a half note higher. While the beginnings are similar, they aren't even using the same chords. RyanDPD (talk) 05:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

They've played together so its not far fetched to say it slightly tweaked version —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.126.113.14 (talk) 23:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

You forgot to mention how 21 Guns takes from ELO's Telephone Line. A direct rip from that tune. --EchoRevamped (talk) 20:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

if you have ever noticed most green day songs follow the same riff the same riff used by nirvana in smells like teen spirit —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nirvana42642 (talk • contribs) 03:17, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I, personally, do not hear any similarities between "Wonderwall" and "Boulevard of Broken Dreams". I suppose that they both have similar structures, but Green Day did not directly sample Oasis. --Blaguymonkey (talk) 04:13, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

"Breakout Success"

It is stated that a security guard mistook Mike Dirnt for a fan and "punched a few of his teeth out" when in actuality said security guard tackled Dirnt. This action slammed Dirnt's head into an amplifier which knocked out two of his teeth. -Daniel Zimmerman, Cleveland Ohio —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marginwalker27 (talk • contribs) 16:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Daniel is correct. This is described clearly in every account I have read of the incident. Someone please change this.RyanDPD (talk) 06:37, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Add Template Singles

Would it be good to add the template single existing principal l article Green Day? That would be good to unlock the page and add a moment, because this template contains the Green Day's singles, which the other staff are not (they were, but now with the increase of which was single and to have this band, I wanted to sort better in another template for better viewing). It's singles template: Template:Green Day Singles. konahk4 (talk) 22:26, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Awards section

This section should not be in the article without content. A simple link is not enough. There should be one or two paragraphs telling of the awards Green Day has won. Timmeh!_{(review me)} 23:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Most on Lookout Records?

Wasn't 39/Smooth and Kerplunk the two best selling albums on Lookout Records ever?--Kingforaday1620 (talk) 22:39, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how often 39/Smooth got sold, but Kerplunk got sold over 700.000 times, i guess. I think it really was one of the best selling albums on Lookout! records. But Operation Ivy's album Energy also got sold over 500.000 times, so I'm not sure whether 39/Smooth got sold more often. (and sorry for my bad english by the way)--GDallgood (talk) 14:46, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok, you're right, Green Day's first 2 albums were the 2 most successful on Lookout!. Op Ivy's album Energy was the 3rd most successful.--GDallgood (talk) 15:15, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Sean Hughes?

Who is he exactly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.177.242 (talk) 03:21, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to second the question asked above...who is Sean Hughes and why is he mentioned on the band's list of former members? -SAULGNRFAN

Sean Hughes is an old friend of Green Day and was a member of the band when they were first starting out. The book Nobody Likes You documents this and has quotes directly from him. He also appears in a TV special about Green Day (I believe it's Driven from Vh1. -RyanDPD —Preceding unsigned comment added by RyanDPD (talk • contribs) 05:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I think he was originaly the bassist, and Mike did rhytham guitar, but he left for some reason so Mike switched to bass.Qwerty McQwertyuiop talk

Green Day decided to kick him out because he wasn't good enough. Joseph507357 (talk) 23:04, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Know Your Enemy

Dear Author,

Just want to let you know that the audio track you've included is playing the wrong song. That is Know Your Enemy by Rage Against the Machine that you have uploaded. Another great song, but not Green Day's version.

Evan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.52.200.249 (talk) 06:07, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Timmeh!_{(review me)} 14:31, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

idiot

a childish idiot has deleted the green day information and written:

"green day are awful"

talk about being a baby

i am not regestered so can someone report it and restore the information thanks!

ry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.195.168.32 (talk) 21:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Try refreshing the page. A bot reverted the edit a while ago. Timmeh!_{(review me)} 21:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

no, it hasn't been fixed. I just signed up to try and edit it back to the way it was but it wont let me edit it either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Finksgirl (talk • contribs) 21:37, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

No, I'm pretty sure it has been fixed. ClueBot reverted the vandalism at 20:34 (UTC). Timmeh!_{(review me)} 21:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I find it very sad how some people on the internet think that only their opinions about a band matter. Kerrang86 (talk) 21:25, 27 October 2009 (UTC) WOW what a moron. poor kid has no taste in musicDannymazz (talk) 04:12, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

To be more balanced, "Criticism and controversy" section should also includes positive comments on the band

I think this section should be renamed "Critical reception" and includes positive comments so as to make it more neutral. According to this section, it sounds like the band only ever received negative criticisms, which is misleading. Laurent (talk) 16:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I went ahead and merged the section into the article itself. Hope I got it right - the paragraph about the criticisms of American Idiots went into "American Idiot and renewed popularity: 2003–2006"; and I've put the punk genre related criticisms in "Musical style and influences" (not sure about that one, but it seemed to be the best place for these criticisms). I didn't merge the comment by Noel Gallagher as it felt more of a rant than an actual criticism. Laurent (talk) 23:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

There should be sources cited for the information you added to the musical style and influences section. This is a good article; I think we'd all like to keep it that way, by making sure to cite reliable sources for all possible information. Timmeh!_{(review me)} 23:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually I haven't added anything, I've just moved paragraphs around from one section to another, so as to remove the "Criticisms" section. I agree that these paragraph, especially the one regarding the punk genre, should be sourced though. I've added some "who" and "weasel" tags where sources are needed. Laurent (talk) 23:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

If I find the time, I'll look for sources for that content. For now, though, adding the tags was a good call. Hopefully, someone will find and add sources in the near future, as I likely won't have time to do so. Timmeh!_{(review me)} 00:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Do you not understand that that's what the "Criticism and Controversy" section is FOR? You don't add positive things about a band in a section like that. That would make it unneutral. --Zzguitar14 (talk) 13:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

If you're going to be acting your age, you shouldn't be editing this article.--EchoRevamped (talk) 21:21, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Since when is controversy good?? 68.193.242.54 (talk)

The name

Where does the name Green Day come from? Should there be any mentioning about that?

Summer Song (talk) 05:25, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

It's mentioned in one of the Green Day articles (i.e. Billie Joe Armstrong, this article, etc.) It said that "the band allegedly changed their name [from Sweet Children] due to their fondness of Marijuana", as having a green day would be to be stoned for like 24 hours (or something). --Zzguitar14 (talk) 14:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. I'd always wondered about that. There's a scene in 'Soylent Green' that has a sign "Thursday is Soylent Green Day" or maybe "Today is Soylent Green Day." In one shot, everything is cut off but "Green Day", so I started to wonder if they band got the name from that. tharsaile (talk) 20:46, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I can confirm this! "TUESDAY IS SOYLENT GREEN DAY" with the words "GREEN DAY" appearing on a separate slate -- I would be very surprised if this was a coincidence. Still, it isn't proof. 95.91.86.150 (talk) 15:26, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

It is either Billies or Mikes article that states they heard it on Sesame Street, and then it became sort of an in-joke for them. AlexanderAwful (talk) 21:27, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I remember reading a long time ago that when they were playing in high school a music teacher said to them that 'it would be a "Green Day" in hell before they were a successful rock band' (JMC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.137.30.42 (talk) 21:51, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

In interviews, the band has stated that Armstrong wrote a song called "Green Day" (from 39/Smooth) and Kiffmeyer wrote "green day" on the back of his jacket and their friends liked that name better, so the band's name was changed to Green Day (from Green Day's Behind the Music episode in 2001). --Blaguymonkey (talk) 04:06, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

American Idiot the musical

Berkeley Repertory in Berkeley, California (where the band originated) is currently putting on the premier production of the staged musical version of "American Idiot." It is directed by Michael Mayer, who directed the Tony-award winning production of "Spring Awakening" and was developed by Michael Mayer in collaboration with Green Day.

More information can be found here (http://www.berkeleyrep.org/tickets/sub_plays.asp#ai).

I feel this should be at least noted on the Green Day page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.41.18.183 (talk) 23:41, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I feel it shouldn't be noted at all. --EchoRevamped (talk) 21:18, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Shenanigans?

Why is Shenanigans not listed in the Discography? Just wondering if there was a reason for it not being included. Gehrc (talk) 23:40, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

That specific section only shows albums. Shenanigans is a compilation album that doesn't qualify as an album. However, it is listed in their discography article. AlexanderAwful (talk) 21:31, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes but the songs aren't from the other albums so you could add it Spank (talk) 21:31, 2 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.24.21.154 (talk)

Alienated Fans?

The comment in the opening paragraph, "some of whom felt alienated when the band signed to a major label", is generic and not particular to Green Day's fans. The cite given (note 2, http://www.greendayauthority.com/TheBand/articles/guitarlegends/page8.jpg) - "Though many in the punk scene viewed major labels - and those who signed with them - with suspicion . . . " does not support the contention that feelings of "alienation" were experienced by Green Day's fans in particular. The comment should be deleted from the article.

Come On this band is not alternative

Come On, this band is not alternative, You wouldn't call The Ramones, Cheap Trick and The Who.

"alternative", thats way excessive, and i'm removing the said reference.

you might as well call everything alternative at this rate.--DavisHawkens (talk) 14:01, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

um, well green day is alternative, and you dont have a lagidiment argument going. those bands are all totally different genres. --JBrocksthehouse (talk) 17:48, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

They are definitely alternative rock. They have many of the characteristics. Anything that's punk or pop-punk is alternative to a certain extent at least. Rocker10000 (talk) 12:29, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Put "members" section into an article

Many bands have this, such as Linkin Park, and there's a whole lot of things to list with this band when talking about their members. Now, I really don't care if anyone decides to make an article for it or not. I was just making a suggestion, seeing how lengthy that section is. --Zzguitar14 (talk) 20:09, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Macys Day Parade,Blood, Sex And Booze, Maria and Poprocks and Coke

Can someone please tell me why Macys Day Parade,Blood, Sex And Booze, Maria and Poprocks and Coke don't have their own page? They are singles(with physicall releases) they should have their own page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.150.159 (talk) 16:49, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe because there isn't enough information on the songs? If you have any information about them, feel free to add a page about each. --The Banshee (talk) 05:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

The articles for Macy's Day Parade and Poprocks and Coke were deleted for failing WP:MUSIC. Blood Sex and Booze was not released as a single, so would not pass WP:MUSIC either. Nouse4aname (talk) 17:17, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

But they were released as promo singles —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.32.150.159 (talk) 02:46, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Kerplunk and 39/Smooth have not gone double platinum

In the "Middle era and fall from popularity" (which needs to be renamed, Green Day was never unpopular, just less so) section, it says, "While all of Green Day's past albums had reached a status of at least double platinum, Warning was only certified gold." This should be edited to read "While all of Green Day's past albums on a major label had reached a status of at least double platinum..." Somewhat minor but worthy of a change nonetheless.RyanDPD (talk) 06:43, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Genre of Green Day

Though I may agree with the term "Alternative," as wide and vague as it may be, Green Day is not Pop-Punk/Pop-Rock whatsoever (whichever term was officially used, they're one in the same almost). All Time Low and Fall Out Boy are the Pop-Punk/Pop-Rock scene. Green Day is strictly Punk Rock and (due to the association of punk rock to alternative styles...) Alternative. Slugger20120 (talk) 14:59, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I think that they should be listed also as hard rock since they have been included on Vh1's greatest hard rock songs and Vh1 Greatest Hard Rock artists. Aceman97 (Acemen97)

No, they aren't hard rock,it's just that many people associate punk with hard rock

Why don't you just put rock and punk rock they aren't pop rock or pop punk and the album's should say punk rock —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.37.141 (talk) 22:37, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm adding punk rock as the first genre, because they have 2 alternative rock/punk albums and the rest of them, punk. The band is more punk rock than alternative.--Revilal90 (talk) 08:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Number of albums sold

A long time ago (probably at least a good two years, could be wrong), the article used to state that Green Day had sold over 65 million albums worldwide. When this link went dead, the reference stating that they've sold over 22 million albums in the United States was put into place. Now that this link is dead, shouldn't we just remove any number of albums sold from the article until we can verify it? 76.212.4.103 (talk) 08:43, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Sources should not be removed because the link goes dead. The important thing is that the source is reliable and that it actually stated what is said in the article. -Duribald (talk) 08:56, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

However, the source for 65 million albums in the united states was reliable and when the link went dead it was removed. 76.212.4.103 (talk) 11:38, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

As I recall it was removed mainly because some people thought the number seemed exagerated, and additional sources were requested. The link simply going dead is not reason for removal. -Duribald (talk) 13:24, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I used ARIA for their discography page. It's reliable enough, might need some reinforcement at some point though, since it's not a worldwide association. kiac. (talk-contrib) 01:07, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Someone Changed the Picture of The Band

It's disgusting to be looking up something, and then a horrible picture of THAT comes up. Why on earth would someone be so vulgar? Please change the picture of a woman's vagina back to the original photo, and thank you very much to whoever does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.148.82 (talk • contribs) 17 February 2010

Emo

Green Day isnt emo! they should change it back to the proper genres!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.72.227 (talk) 10:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

"Sell out"

"though categorised as a "sell out" band among the punk rock community." Both what constitutes a "sell out" and what the true "punk rock community" is are incredibly controversial, and possibly subjective. I do know that they have a reputation like what's described, but a)this needs to be cited, and b) it needs to be put in a much less absolutist, generalized way that reflects who has called them that and what exactly they said. There's a real circular logic problem to say that Green Day and their fans are not part of the punk rock community because the punk rock community doesn't consider them part of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by D prime (talk • contribs) 15:46, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I changed it to "though they have been described as a "sell out" band by notable members of the punk rock community." I think if you're called that by a member of the Sex Pistols, it's notable, but this makes it sound less objective and universal. D prime (talk) 16:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

In accordance with previous punk argument and they being sellouts, i believe that we should elimnate the punk rock genre from their infobox. 21:57, March 28 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.191.46 (talk) 01:57, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Last of the american girls?

I don't understand how there is not a page for last of the american girls when there is a music video for it. Single or not, there should be a page that describes the music video...?? 68.193.242.54 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:35, 9 April 2010 (UTC).

How long ago did the music video come out? Like 11 days? Give it time, more things will be released about the making of the video, the meaning, ect and then someone will probably put up a page. Remember, there isn't a behind the scenes video like there is for Know Your Enemy, so info about the video is probably scarce. And why there needs to be a page to describe the video when you can just watch it makes no sense. Gardenofgibson (talk) 21:37, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

The VIDEO makes no sense. Maybe that's why we need a page. Geez, no need to get an attitude. 68.193.242.54 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:55, 16 April 2010 (UTC).

If you've got songs like "i fought the law" and JAR in singles, last of the american goals should be in the single list a —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.38.161 (talk) 10:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

"Years active" bugged

It's bugged cause of a syntax error, replace

| Genre = [[Alternative rock]]<br />[[Pop punk]]<br />[[Punk rock]]<!-- DO NOT CHANGE WITHOUT A TALK PAGE DISCUSSION --> <br />[[Hard Rock]]<!-- Do Not Change Without A Talk Page Discussion

with

| Genre = [[Alternative rock]]<br />[[Pop punk]]<br />[[Punk rock]]<!-- DO NOT CHANGE WITHOUT A TALK PAGE DISCUSSION --> <br />[[Hard Rock]]<!-- Do Not Change Without A Talk Page Discussion-->

—13souldealer37 (talk) 12:57, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Uhmm...pretty big typo

In the first paragraph, it says "reaching double platinum, double platinum, and gold status respectively" Must double platinum be repeated twice?

Shouldn't it? How do I know whether the middle of the three albums is double platinum or gold?

"Most of their songs are fast-paced and under four minutes."

Just like most of the content in the Musical Style and Influences section this statement is very opinionated and lacks any straightforward facts. I think that somebody who actually knows something about Green Day should be writing these articles and the should also have a lot of back up information. Just to top it of "under four minutes" is merely the correct way to describe somebody's musical style. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Russake (talk • contribs) 18:16, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Coopermac.rudyboy, 6 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Change "Christopher" to "Charles" in the following sentence under Related Projects:

  Christopher Isherwood of The New York Times wrote an enthusiastic review for the Broadway production. 

Coopermac.rudyboy (talk) 16:46, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia. Intelligentsium 17:21, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Merge from 21st Century Breakdown World Tour

I think this is a good idea, which would forestall deletion of that article. PROD reasons were as follows:

• Fails Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Concert tours: No information other than a list of dates & locations. Concert tours are assumed non-notable unless aspects such as artistic approach, financial success, etc. are covered in independent sources. Sources that merely establish that a tour happened are insufficient to support encyclopedic coverage

  — Jeff G. ツ 15:19, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

• I think that if we have to do a merge, it should be a merge with 21st Century Breakdown rather than with Green Day. Jackam05 (talk) 18:25, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

The AfD has closed as keep, so it does pass Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Concert tours. This shouldn't be mereged into the main Green Day article. Lugnuts (talk) 18:23, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

A merge? That would be a long list of dates to include. If it must merge, merge it, like Lugnuts said, with 21st Century Breakdown. --99.241.135.158 (talk) 21:31, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Seems silly to merge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.12.154 (talk) 02:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

1987?

I have viewed many videos of their interview, and Billie always says that they really started playing in 88 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONN32-fvxUo), is the source credible which says 1987, because i would go for what Armstrong says instead of a website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thedeanjones (talk • contribs) 06:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

87 is a common error in reports, 88 is the correct date —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.38.161 (talk) 10:32, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

They formed in 87, but didn't start playing until 88. Joseph507357 (talk) 15:18, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Who cares about when they "formed," might as well say when Billie and Mike met is when they "formed." The real formation is when they start playing, you're not a band if there isn't music being played. According to Billie they started in 88'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.205.244 (talk) 06:41, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

They play well before 87 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WdCxW6hz8o&feature=related Joseph507357 (talk) 01:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

The Gospel According To Jimmy

I heard from a friend who knows a guy who's cousin knows the band that Green Day's next album is going to be titled "The Gospel According To Jimmy" and will be released in early 2011. He said it will be another concept album and have something to do with American Idiot. I know this is probably going to be ignored or considered unreliable speculation, but I will find more proof if I need to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.165.239 (talk) 22:13, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

• • i like the title but it seems that title you mentioned was too simple? i dont know if green day will really use thatChevron24 (talk) 15:59, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually, That's the name of a movie that's coming out. http://www.movieguys.org/movie-news/the-gospel-according-to-jimmy-worst-idea-ever/ Check it out, it's even on IMBD also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.142.93.41 (talk) 18:39, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Intro

Since the primary genre for Green Day, as mentioned in the article, is alternative rock, shouldn't the intro be something like "Green Day is an alternative rock band......." ? LPfreak101 (talk) 07:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC) It's mostly agreed that Green Day is punk rock, so I think if most people agree with that then it should stay that way. Qwerty McQwertyuiop

Green Day's page

Green Day's page is now more reliable than ever? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chevron24 (talk • contribs) 04:49, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 98.119.2.140, 21 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Please also include that Green Day has won a Golden Raspberry Award for Worst International Band because I think the fans should know as much as possible about Green Day.

98.119.2.140 (talk) 16:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC) Template:NotDone2. No source and clearly incorrect as the Golden Raspberry Awards are for films. BOVINEBOY2008 16:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Green Day ranked 54 on Billboard artist of the decade 2000 - 2009

why is it not mentioned in this article?121.54.32.151 (talk) 07:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Band picture and Genres

Personally, i think that the picture on this page should be just of the three band members, not with a touring musician, also, i don't really agree with the Pop Punk genre, sure maybe some of their songs could be called Pop Punk, i agree with the Alternative Rock and Punk Rock, but i also think that maybe Hard Rock should be added, just my opinion, nobody has to agree with me. --Chickenguy12 (talk) 05:28, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Why add hard rock if they aren´t? Just to make people happy? Green Day has nothing to do with the AC/DC style, blues-influenced rock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.217.20.184 (talk) 16:36, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Merge Discussion

I disagree to the merger. Harsh Mujhse baat kijiye(Talk) 03:06, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

-- I also disagree. Why merge a worldwide tour with the main band article? 90.194.161.232 (talk) 10:57, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Origin

The band is from Berkeley. Why not change the origin ?--Revilal90 (talk) 11:47, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Sean Hughes

They're missing one of their former members, who's name was Sean Hughes and who played Bass Guitar! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Junior200 (talk • contribs) 21:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Find a source and fix it. BOVINEBOY2008 04:26, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Confused

I'm confused... I heard Green Day was formed in Canada. Is this true?-- Platyfishkeeper ^chat 16:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

no East Bay, CaliforniaMoxy (talk) 16:12, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

They are Canadian, American's always take credit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.34.209.209 (talk) 22:52, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

No, only Mike is Canadian, but, they were all born in California —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.205.244 (talk) 06:43, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

What's with all this alternative rock thing?

is it necessary that all bands formed after the 90's be characterized as 'alternative'. Does rock exist no more? Can't green day be called a rock band as well? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.161.41.254 (talk) 18:37, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 71.186.174.47, 16 October 2010

{{edit semi-protected}}

71.186.174.47 (talk) 20:47, 16 October 2010 (UTC) change the pop punk and alternative rock to just punk rock

 Not done You need consensus before using this template. BOVINEBOY2008 20:53, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Show hits theaters

Green Day's new live album recorded in Germany hits the theaters. Check www.greenday.com for more info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.148.221 (talk) 21:28, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

mentioning of NOFX in introduction?

I think that NOFX should be mentioned in the statement found in the introduction. My correction would be as follows:

As a result, Green Day was widely credited, alongside fellow California punk bands The Offspring, Rancid and NOFX with popularizing and reviving mainstream interest in punk rock in the United States.

Especially because NOFX is also from Berkley, CA. There also is no mention of NOFX in this entire article, and when I think of Cali punk bands who found mainstream success in the early nineties, I think of Green Day, the Offspring, Rancid AND NOFX. I'm sure many other people will agree. Not a big deal, but I find it important. Thoughts? - tbone (talk) 00:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

• Done. No one seemed to object. - tbone (talk) 18:13, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

New Picture November 15,2010

Please add a new picture, because in this one, you cant see the band clearly. Make the picture: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/files/2010/01/green-day.jpg&imgrefurl=http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/01/&usg=__hPoEmh3Q7KfdIsOewm5UnJ3UTiw=&h=400&w=620&sz=103&hl=en&start=0&sig2=IHfX2I_hJiC4Sm8aDR3z3Q&zoom=1&tbnid=ll4p7f4qpunmcM:&tbnh=134&tbnw=208&ei=cPLhTLfvCo-gsQOSmJiHCw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgreen%2Bday%2B2010%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1680%26bih%3D809%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=132&vpy=131&dur=2176&hovh=180&hovw=280&tx=100&ty=99&oei=1PHhTIq9MJL0swP--tyaDA&esq=12&page=1&ndsp=34&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0 Thank you, Mychemicalromance4EVA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mychemicalromance4EVA ([[User talk:|talk]] • contribs) 02:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Copyright? Joseph507357 (talk) 15:15, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Missing Album

The Album Bullet in a Bible is missing from the album list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_in_a_Bible —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seasonalskier (talk • contribs) 17:00, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

That's because it's a live album. Joseph507357 (talk) 23:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

GAN

Hey. I would love to review this article I'm afraid I will mess it up. I will try to help whoever with more experience comes by to review this. cheers--Guerillero | My Talk 04:16, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Green Day/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA Criteria

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Reviewer: Guerillero | My Talk 00:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I will try my hand at this and get a mentor. --Guerillero | My Talk 00:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Prose/MOS

Everything that was wrong with the prose from the last time this article went through a GA review looks done. The prose appears to be smooth and easily readable. In addition, there seems to be no huge copyeditng issues that jump out at me; however, copyediting is not my strenth. As far as MOS issues goes, the only issue I can find does not need to be corrected for GA status. --Guerillero | My Talk 17:03, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Sourcing Issues

1. Dead links

Ref #32

Ref #60

Ref #72

Ref #75

2. Redirect Issues

Ref #30 needs to go to the exact page (Warning Review) not the general album review page.

Ref #33 has a similar problem. The exact webpage needs to be linked to.

Ref #62 is another one of those rolling stone pages that lead to the general listing of articles.

3. The Green Day Story link needs to say that it is an .rpm file

4. Link titles needed or need to be check

Ref #13

Ref #17

Ref #53

Ref #54

--Guerillero | My Talk 23:26, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

For future information, some sections rely on Green Day Authority, a fan site, and may be challenged as a secondary source. --Guerillero | My Talk 17:03, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

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Media Issues

1. No fair use criteria for this article on Basket Case1.ogg
2. No fair use criteria for this article on Working Class Hero.ogg
3. Media is "sandwiching" text in the Breakthrough success section _{Note: Compliance with MOS:IMAGES is not required for Good Article status - weebiloobil (talk) 10:46, 8 December 2010 (UTC)}
4. Billie Joe Woodstock.jpg is from AP and is barred from wikipedia per WP:NFC#UUI

--Guerillero | My Talk 01:06, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Hey! Thank you for reviewing the article. That takes a ton of work and I really appreciate it. I will certainly try to fix the dead links and the link titles, as well as look for another source instead of Green Day Authority. I am a little busy this week with my exams, but I will do my best. Maybe I could recruit some help from other wikipedians. Thanks again! Oh and a side question, isn't the Billie Joe Woodstock picture okay because it is an image used for critical commentary on the concert discussed in the article? Basilisk4u (talk) 04:20, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

It was exam week for me too so I was a bit busy. From what I can see from the different MOSes no images that come from wire services can be used on wikipedia. The green day authority citations work for right now but i don't think they will if this article ever goes through a FA review. I am going to put this review on hold until 27 December, at the very earliest, for improvements. If it improves by then I will change the quality level of the article. cheers --Guerillero | My Talk 20:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I have been working a lot with the dead links, but there are a few that I cannot find anywhere. Also, I am not exactly sure what the "Green Day Story" link is, could you show it to me? I really want this article to pass, but I am a bit worried I cannot find some of the needed links. However, I was able to make a lot of improvements on the other problems, which I hope will be taken into consideration. Thank you and sorry about the dead links, I will search for them far and wide. Basilisk4u (talk) 01:58, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Greeday story is this

The Green Day Story (Broadcast on Radio 1 Mon June 20, 2005) (Alternate Link)

It is in the notes section.

As far as dead links go they don't all need to be replaced if they are truly dead. The links that need the most attention are the pesky rolling stone links that go to the main review page. The other links can be see through archive.org. (If i can get the site to load through my net connection I will post the links. I agree the article has progressed by leaps and bounds. I am very impressed. cheers --Guerillero | My Talk 02:48, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I changed it so the link says that it is an rpm file. I was able to find one of the Rolling Stone links (#76), but I'm still having trouble with number 61. I have tried to look for the information from other sources, but they all cite the rolling stone source which has disappeared for some reason, which is a total bummer. Thank you for noticing the improvements, a lot of people have worked hard on the article, it really means a lot. If there are any more improvements I can make to the article before you make your decision, please do not hesitate to ask. Cheers! Basilisk4u (talk) 01:23, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

I am stuck. This article is fairly close to being a GA. The prose brings up no glaring problems when running through MS Word and flows well. The images have been cleaned up. The only problem is the sourcing. I need a second opinion. --Guerillero | My Talk 23:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello! I understand you want a second opinion regarding the sources, and I'm here to oblige. I'll have a good look, and I'll be back within 24 hours with said opinion. Sorry to keep you waiting! - weebiloobil (talk) 19:53, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. If I can drag out this to almost a full month then an extra 24 hours isn't going to hurt. cheers --Guerillero | My Talk 19:56, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, late as always! I've had a good look at the sourcing, and below are the problems I found with the sources; not all of them are relevant to a Good Article discussion, so there is also a bit about what needs to be done. (Please note: I am referring to this version of the article)

• Reference 1 doesn't really need to be in the lead; the date of the band's formation is covered later in the article, and is referenced there as well
• Reference 2 doesn't mention either of the two statements that supposedly use it as a source
• Reference 3 doesn't mention the worldwide sales, only the US sales
• References 6 and 7 are the same
• References 9 and 10 don't mention Sean Hughes at all. Also, both feature a web address as plain text rather than as a link
• References 13 and 18 are the same
• Reference 21 appears to be broken
• The statement "In 2000, Green Day released Warning, a step further in the style that they had hinted at with Nimrod." is an opinion, and so should be sourced or removed
• Reference 28 is dead
• The first paragraph of the section 'American Idiot and renewed success: 2003–2006' is controversial and completely unsourced
• Reference 31 is broken
• The statement before reference 33 states that the Viewer's Choice award is "coveted"; this is an unsourced opinion
• Reference 35 doesn't support the statement that supposedly uses it as a source
• The statement "(the record has been since been beaten by Foo Fighters' 2007 hit "The Pretender" which reigned at the top spot for 18 weeks)" is a statistic and therefore requires a source
• Reference 38 doesn't actually contain the quote that uses it as a source, but instead contains a slightly different version
• Reference 41 is a YouTube link, but the reference description does not say this
• References 44 and 45 don't mention average ratings, but are instead individual ratings
• Reference 61 is dead
• References 70 and 71 don't mention December, despite the month being used in the article
• The section "The reviews of American Idiot: The Musical have been positive to mixed. Charles Isherwood of The New York Times wrote an enthusiastic review for the Broadway production. He called the show "a pulsating portrait of wasted youth that invokes all the standard genre conventions ... only to transcend them through the power of its music and the artistry of its execution, the show is as invigorating and ultimately as moving as anything I’ve seen on Broadway this season. Or maybe for a few seasons past."" needs at least two references
• Reference 72 now redirects to a pay-per-view site
• Reference 73 is dead

Whilst this looks like a lot, the only section of the Good Article criteria that refers to this is 2(b), "it provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons". The rest of the article is fine, and so my suggestion is to remove all the information that isn't at the moment properly sourced and clean up the referencing a bit, so the article can be passed; the problem bits can then be gradually reinserted when the source is fixed/replaced. Of course, this is only my opinion; feel free to ignore me if you want - weebiloobil (talk) 00:51, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm going to give this a few days. If nothing happens then I am going to need to not promote this article. --Guerillero | My Talk 18:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi! It looks like I have a lot of work to do haha. I will do the best I can. Basilisk4u (talk) 20:09, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

After over a month I am closing this GAR. There has been plenty of time since this was put on hold. The article did not pass because of sourcing issues; however, with some improvements I am very sure it will obtain GA status. cheers--Guerillero | My Talk 19:46, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

genre

can you please add the genre 'rock' to green day? although green day is an alternative rock group, punk rock is after all a genre of rock music. if not many than at least a few songs can be classed as 'rock' right? A big fan of green day i knew gave up listening to green day after finding out that they are alternative. He always trusted them as a rock group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.245.160.19 (talk) 07:11, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Punk rock, pop punk, and alternative rock are all rock genres.Supahshadow (talk) 21:20, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. "Rock" should only be used when the sub-genres are disputed, which they aren't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocker10000 (talk • contribs) 20:18, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect information

Hello, I can't edit this page since I am an unregistered user. But I noticed that at the top of the page it states that Tre' Cool joined the band in 1992, prior to the recording of Kerplunk, but Kerplunk was recorded in 1991, and Tre' Cool joined in 1990, right after John Kiffmeyer left the band. So could someone please change it for me? --71.54.207.51 (talk) 02:41, 13 December 2010 (UTC)Agreed it should be changed.

1994 Live Album

Is this deserving of an article?: http://www.greendaydiscography.com/live_tracks.html It was officially put out by Reprise (check the copyright info on the back) and we have enough info from that site to write an article. 24.255.37.144 (talk) 23:43, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Not even close to enough for an article.Joseph507357 (talk) 00:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Paradise

Am I the only one who noticed that the "Welcome to Paradise" sample only plays through the left speaker? I think a new sample is needed. 24.255.38.190 (talk) 00:00, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Then post one yourself. - PM800 (talk) 00:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

I would if I knew how. 24.255.38.190 (talk) 00:56, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

I tried to post a fixed version and it sounds fine on my computer, but once I upload it the same left-speaker-only issue exists. –CWenger (talk) 01:52, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Jaded in Chicago

Should there be a page for it.Joseph507357 (talk) 02:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Probably not since it was never officially released on DVD or anything like that. I would make an article for it, but some moderator on Wikipedia will probably delete it so there's no point. --Blaguymonkey (talk) 09:50, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

New Green Day song

On Billie Joe's Twitter, he quoted this to somebody "Dear niki lee,awesome book! And there's a new green day song called "carpe diem".. What a strange world we live in. Xoxo bj" So there is a new song called "Carpe Diem" possibly for the new album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.234.196 (talk) 19:04, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Sean Hughes

Green Day has never had a bass player other than Mike Dirnt, but someone put Sean Hughes in there as the bassist from 1987-1988 and changed Mike's tenure to 1988-present.

Could someone please delete Sean Hughes and change Mike's start date to 1987? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ziggyzocky (talk • contribs) 15:07, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

You both are incorrect. Green Day had a bassist named Sean Hughes when it was first founded in 1987 and Mike Dirnt played guitar. Hughes left in 1988 and Dirnt then began playing bass for the band. There are many reliable sources that support this. --Blaguymonkey (talk) 06:19, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 117.197.17.161, 30 May 2011

Please change the second line of the third paragraph where it is mentioned that green day has won 4 grammy awards as they have actually won 5 of them.It is mentioned on the Wikipedia page "List of awards and nominations won by Green Day" that they have won 5 grammy awards.Also, it is a known fact that Green Day has won 5 Grammy awards and not 4........please correct it!!!

117.197.17.161 (talk) 14:10, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

This is not a punk rock band. It is a pop rock band.

Analysis of song style and content is more important than what the label says to market the band to middle schoolers. Proposing edit to first sentence of article to change the genre. 76.28.77.142 (talk) 21:53, 24 July 2011 (UTC)