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The "Democrat Party" as an political epithet needs to be removed

There is a statement on the main article that "In the 20th and 21st centuries, "Democrat Party" is a political epithet that is sometimes used by opponents to refer to the party." In the interest of fairness, it must be removed.

For openers, there is absolutely no evidence to support this claim. Also, many of the things posted on the discussion pages of PRO-party articles refer to them as the Democrat party. One of them appears on this very page.

The party gets referred to as both Democrat and Democratic by supporters, opponents, and the 80% of the US who couldn't care less, so saying that it is a negative reference (i.e. epithet) made by party detractors is just not true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.166.187.168 (talk) 21:03, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I hear Rush Limbaugh use it all the time. Historically, it was too. 'Democrat' itself is not an epithet. 'Democrat Party' instead of 'Democratic Party', indeed, is. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 18:56, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

the issue is thoroughly covered at Democrat Party (phrase). In national media, the term "Democrat Party" is primarily used as a slur or epithet by the party's opponents to emphasize that the party is not actually democratic in practice. (However in some local areas such as Indiana it is used by Democrats). The article notes, In 1984, when a delegate of the Republican platform committee asked unanimous consent to change a platform amendment to read the Democrat Party instead of Democratic Party, Representative Jack Kemp objected, saying that would be "an insult to our Democratic friends" and The committee dropped the proposal.(cite) Rjensen (talk) 19:03, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

What is the Plural Form of Democratic

For correct attribution to the Democratic Party, what is the plural form of the Democratic Party. I think is it Democrats. The plural form of Republican is Republicans. The plural form of Democratic is Democrats. Thank you.

I came looking for a history of the Democratic Party. Could one be added? Almost all Wiki articles include a history of the subject at hand. Athana (talk) 12:51, 16 January 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.124.90.4 (talk)

Founding

am I wrong or is nowhere a Founding-Date of this Party (1828 is a Year, not a date) -- Hartmann Schedel ^cheers 13:53, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

there was no one day that is identified by the RS--the best they give is a year.Rjensen (talk) 06:41, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I came looking for a history of the Democratic Party. Could one be added? Almost all Wiki articles include a history of the subject at hand. Athana (talk) 12:51, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Socialist faction

I mentioned this a while back: I think that in the ideology section, it should be noted that there are some socialist Democrats. The LA Times points out that the Democratic Socialists of America is overwhelmingly made up of Democrats. Sbrianhicks (talk) 00:53, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

The Democratic Socialists of America has a membership of approximately 6,000, compared with 72,000,000 million registered Democrats. Even if all DSA members were registered Democrats, they would represent 8.3/1,000 of 1% of total registered Democrats, which hardly counts as a "faction". TFD (talk) 01:16, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

You can do math (clap, clap). The definition of "faction": "a group that is a minority within a larger group and has interests or beliefs that are not always in harmony with the larger group." Yes, the DSA would count as a faction by definition as they are an organized group of Democrats who disagree significantly with the party's general platform. Sbrianhicks (talk) 02:55, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

It seems minor to me. TFD (talk) 03:15, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Libertarian Democrats are a minor faction as well, but they are mentioned. Sbrianhicks (talk) 03:39, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

At least the Democratic Freedom Caucus is part of the party, but probably is too minor to mention as well. TFD (talk) 04:05, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I think it's not a matter of size but a matter of reference. The "democratic" in democratic socialist is not a reference to the Democratic party. "democratic socialist" is a general term used for a political form, (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism) not a reference to socialists from the Democratic party. It's like saying the US is (small d) democratic or that its government is (small r) republican. Both terms refer to the type of government (a federal republican democracy), not the (Big D and Big R) forms of the words, which refer to specific parties. "Democrats Socialists" are capitalized because it's a proper name, but it's an offshoot of democratic socialism, not connected, per se, to the Democratic party. Same word, different references. Jbower47 (talk) 16:39, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Blue is not the official color

Yes, they have a blue logo. Yes, their websites are mainly blue. Yes, Democrats identify themselves as blue. But the Democratic Party has, by no means, adopted the color blue as an official color. So, please, remove it from the official color section of the infobox. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 18:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Hold on, if they have a blue logo, a blue website, & identify themselves as blue, that sounds to me like they have adopted that color. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.3.209 (talk) 08:42, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

They use it; but it's not officialized in any way; so it's not the "official color" of the party. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:03, 21 April 2011 (UTC)