Talk:Lost (TV series)

Hate to be nit-picky...

In the third paragraph (the last one of the lead) I found this:

"the sixth season averaged over 11 millions viewers per episode"

That should obviously be million. I'd fix it myself, but the page is protected. Thanks. 207.118.95.91 (talk) 17:35, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

good catch, anon. If you start an account (which is free and anonymous, btw) before too long, you'd be able to edit in semi-protected pages as well. :) Jack Sebastian (talk) 04:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Goofy first line to the article

Reading the article, it jumps out that the first line reads strangely. "Lost" is characterized as a "science fiction fantasy," which is a weird editorial comment. Science Fiction is not the same genre as Fantasy, and Lost definitely defies both categories (alternative reality or speculative fiction might be more appropriate). Since there has never been a neutral source describing the story line as fantasy, science fiction or any other genre, a better wiki statement would be "Lost is a TV series" which would at least be objectively neutral and not require a citation. 74.98.227.135 (talk) 06:53, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Artwork

I'm not sure how to go about doing so, but I dont think the new artwork that has been placed with the mythology of Lost is in fitting with Wikipedia's image policies. Whilst I think it is a great artwork, I don't think fan art has a place on this article.Connor5612 (talk) 15:01 4 October 2010

It needs to be removed. For that specific section especially, unless it is a famous piece of artwork, it's just some random Joe's interpretation, which is original research and is inappropriate. --13² 14:52, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed it with an edit summary to come here to discuss it. For those who want to see it, here is the Wiki link to it. We can always re-add it later if need be. --13² 14:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Beat me too it, it has no place in the article. Rehevkor ✉ 15:12, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Individual episode pages and critical reception

Just recently got into lost. And after each episode I tend to look at the episode page.

I am just wondering why critical reception is such an important part of each episode page?

Is this really relevant to have?

I just read the page for the Other Woman and it seemed to me this particular section was all about bragging how Emerson was better then the female lead for the episode.

Seemed ridiculous to me.

Just finding what others think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teerev (talk • contribs) 06:30, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

A critical reception section is just about the only way for each episode to establish its notability. If notability can't be established, the article should be deleted. I'm not familiar with that particular episode, but if it's establishing notability by using reviews for the comparison of actors, then so be it. It might be pushing POV issues and might need to be balanced, but that doesn't render the section (or sections, as it may be from this message) useless. --13² 16:25, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Featured Article

This was a featured article, and now it is not. Why? What needs to be worked on to make this featured again? Start listing things and we can all get to work on it.

First place to look would be its FAR where it got demoted. Trebor (talk) 12:00, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Main cast members

I know that the producers listed all characters in the series finale as main cast members, but that was for just one episode. Do you really think we should do this here? Sam Anderson, John Terry etc. have been just guest stars, in my opinion they should be removed from the list and only actual cast members should be listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bai brother (talk • contribs) 14:29, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

This debate has been brought up a number of times. It all comes down to the question, 'who decideds what "actual cast members" are?' Damon and Carlton consider Rodrigo and Kiele to be "main" cast members, yet ABC considers them guest stars. A similar situation happened with Henry Ian Cusick at the beginning of season six. Overall, in the past, we've concluded that anyone who, at any point, has been listed in the "starring" section is considered a "main cast member". Even if it is in that one episode. --HELLØ ŦHERE 18:32, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Awards-section

Should the text in the award-section be deleted ? It is not referenced and its information can also be found on the Wikipedia-entry of the show's awards. A like to that entry would be sufficient, would it not ? Nuhr (talk) 23:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

No, it should not. As I informed you on another talk page, there are references in that section - maybe not for everything, but the claim that "it is not referenced" is simply not true. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 23:20, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Shaggy dog story

Many commentators (e.g., see [1] but googling yields many) remark that Lost is perhaps best defined as a 50-hour long Shaggy dog story. The "Shaggy dog story" article defines it as "an extremely long-winded tale featuring extensive narration of typically irrelevant incidents, usually resulting in a pointless or absurd punchline.". If Lost wasn't a shaggy dog story (although very likely, the best the world has ever known), I don't know what is. I think such a reference belongs in the article, but I don't know how exactly to fit it in. Nyh (talk) 07:12, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

No, it does not belong in this article, as it is opinion.

Critical reception section

There's a lot of references for anticipation of particular episodes or seasons, but not so much actual details about reception after the seasons/episodes in question have aired. There's no information about the reception of the series finale, which heavily affected the retrospective reception of the show as a whole.--77.10.54.231 (talk) 17:40, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree. The unresolved ending of the show was a big deal issue and it is utterly neglected in the article. 46.116.129.245 (talk) 04:53, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

+1. I think almost all fans who loved Lost had a lot invested and watched because the Finale was so hyped up as a mind-blowing twist that would resolve all the things that made no sense and would do so in a way that no one had predicted. In the end, they didn't resolve much and what they did resolve was by the most obvious scenario that everyone on Lost forums online had predicted and speculated about since Season 1. It seemed like everyone always anticipated new shows to try to "get answers" and "get things resolved" but it never happened.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.69.53.59 (talk) 03:50, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

+1, I don't know a single person who has to say anything positive about the last 2 seasons of Lost and especially about its horrible ending. I'm 100% sure that internet is full of negative opinions expressed by people on that matter. At least some share of criticism should be mentioned in the article, otherwise it looks biased. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarmogoyf (talk • contribs) 14:57, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Season 6 was my favorite season and I loved the ending. Your opinion nor mine is not needed in the critical reception section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.92.67 (talk) 08:45, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

It wouldn't hurt to find some reliable, notable sources with more critical opinion of the finale. I know there were some out there because I remember reading them. But IP 69.14 is right that our personal opinions as fans (or the collective opinion of any fan forums) do not belong in the article. Anyone remember where they read negative opinion in the press? Millahnna (talk) 10:31, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

That's fine and all, but unless you are a noted and published TV critic, nobody's personal opinion belongs in the article. If you have any notable critics who mention these problems, then feel free to include them. Anonymous~Source (talk) 21:10, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

How many people survived?

This page says that 71 people (and a dog) survived the crash, but Characters of Lost says 71 survivors (70 humans and 1 dog). Anybody know which is right? DanielDPeterson (talk) 08:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)