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AIV thanks

thanks! Best wishes DBaK (talk) 12:05, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! Great moniker by the way ;) Favonian (talk) 12:07, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ha! Thanks! :) DBaK (talk) 12:09, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again

for blocking another Dantherocker1 sockpuppet! NHRHS2010 the student pilot 20:01, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep 'em coming :P Favonian (talk) 20:03, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, and if you haven't done so, I would suggest you to put my user and talk pages (and other known Dantherocker1 targets) on your watchlist. NHRHS2010 the student pilot 21:22, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Protection

Thanks for this. —Justin (koavf)TCM21:38, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. The broomsticks were really out of the closet. Favonian (talk) 21:41, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IP Address

Comcast changed my IP and I now see your message of changes that I never made. Looks like somebody with this IP made the changes. Just FYI. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.118.133 (talk) 17:17, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, much can happen in five months. Excellent reason for creating an account! Favonian (talk) 17:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, σχήμα λόγου ήταν , εσύ δεν ξέρεις ελληνικά εγώ δεν ξέρω αγγλικά , μπερδεύτηκε πολύ το θέμα. Εγω ήθελα μόνο να πω μια γνώμη στο άρθρο της Λευκωσίας κι ένας χρήστης συνεχώς με εμποδίζει και με απειλεί με ΒΑΝ , δεν έχω καταλάβει ακόμα γιατί να μην μπορώ να μιλήσω εκεί ? . tony esopiλέγε 12:38, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Google translation: figure of speech was, you do not know Greek I do not know English very confused issue. I just like to say in an opinion article in Nicosia and a user continuously prevent and threatens VAN, I do not understand yet because I can not speak here

Sorry for being brutal, but if you cannot even put together a brief message in English, you should not be editing the English-language Wikipedia. Favonian (talk) 12:43, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. (To be precise, I would allow editors unable to communicate in English to contribute to talk pages, but only as long as they understand that there may or may not be someone willing and able to do the translation. I agree they should not directly edit WP content.)--SPhilbrickT 14:07, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good post

I don't want to drag out the ANI discussion more than necessary, but I wanted to applaud you for the edit here. That sounds exactly like the right action.--SPhilbrickT 14:09, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, though credit should also be given to Cplakidas for this very helpful message. Favonian (talk) 14:14, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok understand tony esopiλέγε 18:10, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Hello, is it possible to move this page to this page? Thank you. Mjbmr Talk 17:35, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) They don't seem to meet the English Wikipedia's notability requirements ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree with Bwilkins. The sources quoted in the article are not sufficient to meet the requirements of WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO; in particular, one of them is a reference to Persian Wikipedia, and Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source. At the risk of sounding harsh, you should probably give up attempts to get this biography into Wikipedia. According to to this deletion log it has been tried repeatedly, every time with dismal result. Favonian (talk) 18:25, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It was my first try to create an article about Mohsen Chavoshi, if he wasn't famous why people are trying to make an article about it, anyways that first reference can prove it, we want to publish our knowledge to humanity not to make a person more famous, I'll try to provide more reference for it, please move it if you see good reason for move, i haven't a fast internet connection, after all you can delete it if you want, Thank you very much. Mjbmr Talk 19:01, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I softer-blocked another one, and rv the article to your last version. And then I pruned some more. Keep the faith, Drmies (talk) 16:04, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Rhetorical question: is it really so difficult to read our username policy? Favonian (talk) 16:28, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ahem. Fo shizzle, that's all I have to say. Drmies (talk) 16:34, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding that Moving of Page

Hey, good job! I understand how to move page correctly. Will be keeping the guidelines in mind next time. So much to learn here.

Thanks! Shobhit Sharma (talk) 16:34, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations!

The Award For Being Excellent
Awarded to Favonion in recognition of their contributions to world peace. Skol! Drmies (talk) 17:20, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my, how one's patriotic heart (and liver) swells at that sight. Cheers! Favonian (talk) 17:27, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi, could you please check out IP 58.164.118.105 edits on Amanda Lindhout. I have had my fair share of controversy with this IP and earlier today another user ones again tried to reason with the IP to no good. I feel I cant do anything because of our "controvery" before so I rather someone else look at it. Maybe a sockpuppet or similar, dont know but the IPs behaviour is strange to say the least.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:11, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have warned the IP about edit warring in general and WP:3RR in particular, but as it appears to be a content dispute rather than vandalism, there is not much more I can do at present. Favonian (talk) 17:20, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK. That is what I wanted really so im pleased that someone who is not involved before took a look at it and gave a strong but fair warning. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:17, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The IP answered you back in his revision history (increased indiocy, leading to harrassment. you were wrong, accept it and move on.) and then reverted your warning and reverted back to an old version. Just so you know how this IP works.--BabbaQ (talk) 10:24, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What a charmer! For the moment, at least, the Lindhout article is semi-protected, but I anticipate the need for cluebat application in the future. Favonian (talk) 10:27, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No. You mean expect, not anticipate. Kittybrewster 16:03, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure anymore. Possibly a sign that I need a Wikibreak. Favonian (talk) 17:27, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ergun Caner BLP

Is there any recommendations that you can make for me to be a more responsible contributor? I do not want to be a SPA, I just became one when I saw DSEppling deleting a lot of the Ergun Caner page. What could I have done differently? What should I do differently? I promise only to use sourced information. MosesModel (talk) 21:20, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, I've left a "reading list" on your talk page with some of the more important guidelines to keep in mind when you edit Wikipedia, especially articles about controversial subjects. The major lesson to derive from this incident is that you should have taken the issue to the article talk page and/or notice board sooner so as not to appear as a participant in an edit war. Looks like you have learned that bit by now, and you escaped being blocked for 3RR violation. Several editors, including admins, presumably have their eyes on the article now, so when the protection expires, any sign of renewed edit warring will be swiftly dealt with. Oh, and the best way to avoid the appearance of being an SPA is to do some constructive editing on other article. How is that for a banal answer? ;) Favonian (talk) 15:24, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for cleaning my talk page from that sockpuppet. Cheers! Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:03, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No sweat. Very low-brow that one, even by vandal standards. Favonian (talk) 15:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed community ban

See WP:Administrators' noticeboard#Proposed community ban of User:WCGSOldBoy. --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 05:47, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
For your great administrative work on Wikipedia, I award you this barnstar. Keep it up! Bryce53 | talk 10:11, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot! Also for "feeding the pipeline" of vandalism prevention. Favonian (talk) 12:24, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

This was quick! Thanks! Cheers, Huldra (talk) 12:13, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. It wasn't exactly a difficult call to make. Favonian (talk) 12:23, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dennis Coelho Page

Why did you delete the wiki page on the artist Dennis Coelho? I have been trying to fix it and make sure that it abides by Wikipedia's rules and no one has helped me along with this. I messaged the user who marked it to be removed and he did not get back to me. I am trying to tell the world about a very popular artist from Rhode Island that is overlooked. I have done everything from searching the sources to adding categories and even more. I sat for hours reading the guidelines that I supposedly didn't meet, but when you read the guidelines, they meet the criteria! I am highly disgusted with Wikipedia's so called 'administrators' that don't do anything to help out a newbie who is trying to comply with Wikipedia's guidelines...

Nathancunha (talk) 17:40, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Overlooked" translates as "non-notable", and there was a strong consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dennis coelho to delete the article. Favonian (talk) 19:26, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback

Hey there, we had a conversation quite a while back about rollback. I didn't consider it necessary at that point, desiring to wait until I truly felt the need. Generally, I revert vandalism using Twinkle with ease, but I would like to check out Huggle. Would you mind extending the rollback permission? I appreciate your assistance. Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 15:08, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You got it. Left a semi-mandatory note on your talk page. Favonian (talk) 18:15, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suspected recreation of deleted article

Hi, what do you think of Dean Smith (actor) (other than it's an unrefd BLP)? Is this Daveygp back again? --Redrose64 (talk) 16:40, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Based on extensive(!) experience with the socks of this chap, I don't think this is one of them. Several of the usual "tells" are missing, but I'll keep an eye on their contributions, just in case. Thanks for keeping your eyes peeled :) Favonian (talk) 18:18, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey guys, Lola-razz here. I was the one that created the page. sorry if I have caused havoc with this as its my 1st page, im trying to add a realible source to it. Dean personally requested that i make the page for him so I am trying to make sure I do the right thing so It can stay.

If you are a personal acquaintance of Dean Smith, you should have a look at our conflict of interest guidelines. Favonian (talk) 19:56, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a close friend or have anything to do with Dean himself, i just follow him on twitter and I asked him about something because I couldnt find it on wiki and he said that I could make him a page. (Lola-razz (talk) 20:01, 28 July 2011 (UTC))[reply]

message from Lola-razz

Heyah, I added a reference to Dean Smith (actor). Its from www.imdb.com is that as realiable enough source ? (Lola-razz (talk) 19:51, 28 July 2011 (UTC))[reply]

I would say not, see WP:IMDB. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:52, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Useful as IMDb may be, it's not considered a reliable source, basically because of its lack of editorial control. Anyone can add just about anything — rather like Wikipedia. Favonian (talk) 19:54, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What if i put the websites of the programs that he was in, sorry for the bother its my 1st page. (Lola-razz (talk) 20:00, 28 July 2011 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lola-razz (talkcontribs) 19:57, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Afraid not. As these are published by the companies making the films, they are not considered independent sources. You should try to locate newspaper articles asserting Smith's notability as defined in WP:NACTOR. Favonian (talk) 20:11, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can it be an online article from a notable newspaper. Im sorry for the bother that I have caused, but thank you for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lola-razz (talkcontribs) 20:27, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like C.Fred has taken charge. Favonian (talk) 20:55, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Brony

Sorry about that double post, I was just removing it and got an edit conflict with you. Thanks for cleaning up after us dodos and the ponies. John Slocum (talk) 12:06, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Yet another subculture I fail to appreciate. Favonian (talk) 12:07, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dear mr admin did you delete an article called ?

sorry to bother, you but this 'birkenhead drishyakala' article is about a chenda band who was in the news of .co.uk last week since it's an online news paper the article that i created is within the policies of wikipedia. please undo what you have done

yours faithfully divine Alexabraham22da (talk) 15:17, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There was no assertion of significance in that article (Birkenhead Drishyakala (Chenda)), so it joined its predecessors, Birkenhead Drishyakala and Birkenhead Drishyakala (Chendmelam). Favonian (talk) 15:32, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Adding Drishyakala Birkenhead to the list. Just changing the name really doesn't make the ensemble more notable. Please have a look at WP:BAND. Favonian (talk) 15:34, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


thanks for the replay Alexabraham22da (talk) 15:35, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have a cupcake

SwisterTwister has given you a cupcake! Cupcakes promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cupcake, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

I hope you enjoy this cupcake as a friendly greeting from a fellow Wikipedian, SwisterTwister talk 19:36, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! That was both gratifying and unexpected — not to mention bad for my cholesterol level ;) Favonian (talk) 19:56, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New to Wiki: Not vandalism! "Rottingham" is correct!

I'm a new user to Wiki. I became a user because I use Wikipedia a lot and often see missing or incorrect info. on topics that I may know something about.

The first correction I made was flagged by you as vandalism but I can assure you it is not misuse or incorrect:

In the Mel Brooks film "Robin Hood: Men in Tights," the character portrayed by Alan Rickman is not the Sheriff of Nottingham but the "Sheriff of Rottingham" (a pun on the Robin Hood character).

Classicalib (talk) 22:38, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My Bad! I see the problem.

I'm an idiot. I should have known that wasn't Alan Rickman. I was looking at two pages in a short period of time and corrected the wrong one. What I said about the film "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" was correct but Alan Rickman is in "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves." Thanks for catching my ridiculous mistake!

Classicalib (talk) 23:18, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for the strongly worded template. Guess I should watch Robin Hood: Men in Tights to broaden my horizon ;) Favonian (talk) 12:03, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alexabraham22da

Well spotted: User:Divineabrahamda is actually the puppeteer, and Alexabraham22da is just one of his puppets. Should I rename the SPI? Thanks, Gurt Posh (talk) 11:04, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's better left to the SPI clerks. Not sure about the precise structure of these things. Favonian (talk) 11:10, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'll just make a note for the clerks at the SPI then. Thanks, Gurt Posh (talk) 11:11, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see you just have. :-) Gurt Posh (talk) 11:11, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Amano Corporation

What part of the page breaches copy right?

thank you,

Luke — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luke Bonathan (talkcontribs) 10:51, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Basically: all of it. You copied this and this verbatim, which is a breach of copyright, even if (as indicated by your previous talk page comments) you work for this company. You have already been warned about the complications arising from conflict of interest. If you really insist on writing an article about your employer, you should read WP:CORP and locate reliable, independent sources demonstrating notability of the company. Favonian (talk) 10:56, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I do work for the company however what I am posting is factual, I am just presenting facts, I am the creator of the other pages that 'I copied from'. If I change the fact then it is no longer fact but fiction. I have read many of the Wikipedia pages on how to write a page and each time they get removed for another reason. I am presenting information in an unbiased way. How do I present the amount of employees other then saying we have ... employees?
Thank you,
Luke — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luke Bonathan (talkcontribs) 11:30, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Including some facts about the company and sourcing them to the website is permitted, mindless copy/pasting is not. Apart from the copyright issue, it's mind-numbingly boring (list of showrooms!) and just plain ugly. Filling in the fields of {{Infobox company}} is preferred. Regarding the company history, the issue is even clearer: the prose was copied verbatim. There too, the level of detail is rather excessive.
Most importantly, you haven't addressed the issue of notability. Unless you can do that, the article won't live long. Favonian (talk) 11:44, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it being 'boring' should be an issue, when I use an dictionary I do not look for an interesting read but solid information, I have included allot of information to be comprehensive, if you find there is too much, I can cut it down but logically I thought more would be better? I can get a complete history about coke, so why not our company?
I do agree it wasn't the best looking page, however whilst changing this the article was deleted, so all the formatting I was in the process of doing was lost. I am in the process of leaning here so you have to expect a few edits and changes over the course of the day.
How do you define notability? I searched for Amano and found fictional characters and other people. As an organization we make a huge difference in peoples lives, not just those we employ. Our products are used world wide and can even be seen on hit TV shows including the US office... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luke Bonathan (talkcontribs) 12:20, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CORP describes what it takes to be considered notable for a company. If you decide to create yet another attempt, it might be prudent to do so in your user space, say as User:Luke Bonathan/Amano Corporation. That way you can polish it undisturbed, provided you avoid the mortal sins of blatant advertisement or copyright violation. Favonian (talk) 12:27, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am not looking to advertise or breach any copyright violations. Once I have created the page as desired in my area (I will use your company info box and shorten the history and make it look pretty) how do I then move it to the general area of Wikipedia? Should I contact you for approval? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.72.255.154 (talk) 16:22, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think it is ready for the main site now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Luke_Bonathan/Amano_Corporation#Profile

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luke Bonathan (talkcontribs) 14:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You still haven't included independent sources asserting notability of the company as outlined in WP:CORP. Linking to the company website just isn't sufficient for this purpose. Furthermore, as I have mentioned before the corporate history is far too long.
By the way, to get a third opinion on the suitability of the article draft you can enter it at Wikipedia:Requests for feedback, following the instructions at the top of the page. Favonian (talk) 09:02, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For blocking those incredibly troublesome Christ Church Grammar School vandals, and semi-protecting the article. Metricopolus (talk) 13:28, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Big star for small effort :) Favonian (talk) 08:22, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Poss Sockpuppet?

Hi Favonian, I have decided to ask for your help as you previously blocked a person who used sockpuppets, and I think he might be back. Someone who has not edited anywhere as far as I can see on Wiki has messaged me to ask for help, and that makes me wonder why me, as I am probably, in the whole Wiki experience, rather hard to find. I spend most of my time playing around with little hamlets and villages in Lincolnshire. This person User_talk:Kkumar123 has approached me, on both my page and his own, and previously I was contacted by User_talk:Brattley 36 who was a sockpuppet of User talk:Crouch, Swale. Many thanks if you can check that out. Panderoona (talk) 16:26, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That is indeed a bit odd, but not quite WP:DUCKy enough for a block. I'll monitor the editors activities for a while to see if a familiar pattern occurs. Favonian (talk) 08:19, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - it could be totally innocent of course, but I just thought it best to be a bit wary. Its good to know youll be watching. Panderoona (talk) 09:24, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for blocking the above, would you mind revdel his edits to my talk page please. Mtking (edits) 09:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. What a creep! Favonian (talk) 09:09, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Mtking (edits) 09:10, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:KingofFilm

I sent an unblock email, but I haven't received a response (Sent on Sunday). 98.219.123.213 (talk) 11:56, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Favonian, have you looked into this? I don't mean to be annoying, but... 98.219.123.213 (talk) 20:56, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Favonian? 98.219.123.213 (talk) 00:19, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For your continued co-operation in reverting POV edits on K2 and Kashmiri related entries. Qwrk (talk) 17:50, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Al Ahly

The real club name is Al Ahly not Al Ahly S.C. and Wikipedia do not let me do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzizoo (talkcontribs) 08:51, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As I said on your talk page, WP:RM is the place to state your case. Favonian (talk) 08:54, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Minor barnstar
This is the suckup barnstar, for defending an asshole Wikipedian for no real reason! Good job defending the status quo! X883 (talk) 08:32, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Qatar IPS vandal reversed this. It needs a Silver Lock at least.

{{COI|date=August 2011}}{{POV-lead|date=August 2011}}{{format footnotes|date=August 2011}}{{Copy edit|date=August 2011}}{{Expert-subject|date=August 2011}} {{Use British English|date=August 2011}}

(cur | prev) 10:47, 7 August 2011 89.211.50.131 (talk) (16,953 bytes) (undo)

(cur | prev) 10:26, 7 August 2011 Favonian (talk | contribs) (17,129 bytes) (rm incorrectly used {{shortcut}}) (undo)

(cur | prev) 10:23, 7 August 2011 Favonian (talk | contribs) (17,152 bytes) (Reverted 9 edits by 89.211.50.131 (talk): Admin tags removed without addressing issues. (TW)) (undo)

(cur | prev) 06:50, 7 August 2011 89.211.50.131 (talk) (16,953 bytes) (→Arabian Plate) (undo)
http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)&action=history

JohnLloydScharf (talk) 12:08, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What a ghastly mess. I've reverted the removal of maintenance tags and issued a warning. By the way, you might consider collapsing the numerous issues into one box using the {{article issues}} template. At present it looks a bit "overwhelming". Favonian (talk) 12:57, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am not collapsing anything. I am not editing the article or the Discussion page unless there is at least a Silver Lock on it. The topic of Haplogroup is complex. Haplogroup R seems to have a page for every sub-haplogroup and every individual family has a sub-haplogroup. Haplogroup J is one of the youngest and most of it is at the edge of antiquity, as opposed to pre-historic. Every issue becomes a Jihad/Crusade conflict. I just wanted to put together all that we know in one place and it has turned into a Voyage to La Puta. Having eight hours of yeoman like work trashed in 15 minutes is enough. JohnLloydScharf (talk) 17:17, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is the same one from the same company at the same hotel in Qatar. http://toolserver.org/~chm/whois.php?ip=78.101.35.243 He did not even edit out the text. He just reverts it. You are engaged in a Sisyphean task until a Silver Lock is put on the article.:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)
I do not respect personal attacks, tolerate antisocial behavior, or push rocks up hill well. I am just going to monitor the behavior of this unsigned vandal and whether User:Andrew_Lancaster takes steps to deal with it. Until then, my editing is done. JohnLloydScharf (talk) 21:44, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

He, she or it is toying with the Discussions as well:
(cur | prev) 20:02, 7 August 2011 78.101.35.243 (talk) (69,132 bytes) (→Map depicts J1 M267*G variant rather than being a map of J1 Haplogroup in general.) (undo)
http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Haplogroup_J1_(Y-DNA)&action=history
JohnLloydScharf (talk) 22:00, 7 August 2011 (UTC) 1 List of Vandals[reply]
2 178.152.109.94 Range:178.152.0.0 - 178.152.127.255
3 78.101.34.219 Range: 78.101.32.0 - 78.101.63.255
4 78.101.53.167 Range: 78.101.32.0 - 78.101.63.255
5 178.152.109.94 Range: 178.152.0.0 - 178.152.127.255
6 78.100.170.235 Range:'78.100.160.0 - 78.100.191.255'
7 178.152.109.94 Range:178.152.0.0 - 178.152.127.255
8 89.211.50.131 Range: 89.211.50.128 - 89.211.50.143
9 78.101.34.219 Range: 78.101.32.0 - 78.101.63.255
10 78.101.35.243 Range:78.101.32.0 - 78.101.63.255
JohnLloydScharf (talk) 22:34, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Remark. I am not involved in these tagging reverts, but have been trying to get the editing on this article up to some reasonable level after I was asked to look at a related article and realized how bad this one was. The above editor has been doing incrementally more extreme tag bombing and is also involved in edit warring and talk page silliness, and it seems clear enough that the tags are being accumulated as a way of making a WP:POINT. So I would question whether this is a case for giving the benefit of the doubt to keeping all tags. Of course the article is awful, and most of the tags are justified in that sense, but why so many, both inline and at the header, and doesn't the constant tag bombing and reverting simply postpone the day when normal editing can happen?
  • The article remains bad while the editors are in a constant tit for tat, and I think no other significant reason. It is actually not a very complex or controversial subject compared to many I have seen handled much better.
  • Just on one particular tag, the COI tag, I have tried to get an explanation about this on both the article talk page and the above editor's talk page, without success. It appears that the claim is based on the fact that one of the editors is an IP which is located in Qatar, and nothing else? So I do not think the COI tag is appropriate. It seems indeed to be inflammatory and the last thing this article needs. --Andrew Lancaster (talk) 09:51, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
One of the IP editors deleted the tags again, so I used your proposal above of a general issues tag.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:39, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.

Pest control activities much appreciated :) JRPG (talk) 22:30, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You there?

I'd like another opinion on a page protection I did and I think needs replacing - you'll need to see my talk page to understand. Dougweller (talk) 13:41, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Though Indian caste-related articles are my least favorite Wikipedia mine fields, I have commented. I suspect the edit war will break out as soon as the current protection expires, but aren't long-term full protections frowned upon? At the very least, a semi-protection will have to be imposed, and 24/7 admin guard of honor posted around the article. Favonian (talk) 14:16, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not that one, the discussion with Ironholds who unprotected a page where I'd removed BLP violations and then protected it. But thanks for replying to the one you replied to! Dougweller (talk) 14:24, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not one of my better days, and to top it off I went AWOL for about ¾ of a day. I have weighed in at ANI instead. Favonian (talk) 09:38, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Favonian. Please do reply in Dougweller's talk page, for yet another message(a reply to the above msg) from me. By the way, i apologise to dougweller if i had posted it in the wrong place. I just wanted the guidance of some administrator. Thank You. Hari7478 (talk) 14:41, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hari, I really wanted Favonian to reply to a different discussion. Dougweller (talk) 16:20, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciated

Thank you for reverting back my talk page. It is time an admin steps in here, because one does not know the rules and is creating trouble and another knows the rules very well and he is damaging a whole group of articles with cited arguments on the lead sections. Hoverfish Talk 18:23, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's a mess alright. Well, now one party has been given a day off to contemplate life in general and Wikipedia in particular. Regarding the other editor, it looks like they are stepping away from the dead horse. Favonian (talk) 20:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted page question

I am doing some research into members of the London County Council - will update Wikipedia as appropriate. The question is - as Henry Percy Harris is a historical person and a presumably different person whose page has been deleted, what will be the situation when I get enough to write about the LCC person? (I can make use of Londonwiki as an intermediary if appropriate). Jackiespeel (talk) 18:37, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Go right ahead and create it, assuming you can provide the article with the required, reliable sources. As an MP he is by definition (WP:POLITICIAN) notable. The version I deleted was a primitive attack on a different person of that name, whereas the first version—well, it was difficult to make head or tail of, but it certainly failed to mention the person's political status. Favonian (talk) 19:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request for semi-protection

Greetings! Can you impose temporary semi-protection on that article which appears to be persistently vandalized by an anonimous user? Regards, --Gligan (talk) 09:33, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear that the IPs' actions constitute vandalism. Looks more like (forgive the irresistible pun) a contemporary Bulgarian–Serbian edit war over contents. In such cases, there are two options: blocking the participants or imposing a full protection of what will invariably be The Wrong Version. Favonian (talk) 09:40, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So, how do you suggest we proceed? Ah, and also, that anonimous Serbian user is not adding anything to support his edits and most of them are the addition of a paragraph in the end which has nothing to do with the subject of the article... Anyway, proceed as you should in such cases. What I can do for now is to try adding more citations from English-speaking authors (Runciman and Fine) but even they are not detailed enough on Bulgarian-Serbian relations. Regards, --Gligan (talk) 09:49, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, you can request a second opinion by adding a request for protection to WP:RFPP. Otherwise, you should look at the options listed at WP:Dispute resolution. As you probably know, Balkan-related articles are notoriously contentious. Favonian (talk) 09:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, my problem is that I don't have much time in the next weeks; that is why I wanted to request some kind of protection - I neither want to see myself engaged in a pointless edit war, not have time to go in extended argues with anonimous user who does not even try to discuss his changes (and honestly speaking he has none, but I guess that this is classified as my POV). I will add the citations now and I would hope he will stop. If not, I will do as you advise me (a request to WP:RFPP). Best, --Gligan (talk) 10:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Your opponent has managed to convince me that semi-protection is in order, but as I have reverted them, I'm considered involved and have put in a request at WP:RFPP. Favonian (talk) 16:14, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And behold! The article has been semi-protected for 10 days. Favonian (talk) 18:22, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thank you very much for your help and commitment ;-) I wish you a pleasant summer. Best, --Gligan (talk) 18:32, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

hinch

I'm getting the stranger and stranger notion that Nicosia is infected by socks. wtf?. Created today. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 11:14, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not unlikely. I think you should open an SPI with a request for CheckUser. Favonian (talk) 11:20, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can't seem to sort it out... who's who? *scratch head* Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 11:27, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Reaper Eternal (talk) 19:16, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for dealing with User:IownKudzu

That user appears to be a sock of User:Idealisis, who created another sock (User:Milordass), as another vandalism-only account. Milordass just became active again as soon as IownKudzu was blocked. -Kudzu1 (talk) 22:40, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I've blocked Milordass, but as I'm headed for bed, I would recommend that you open a case at WP:SPI to get the mess cleared up. Favonian (talk) 22:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

76.4.177.96

I observe that you blocked this address one month ago, and the editor at that time was systematically changing "Roman Catholic" to "Catholic". I observed as soon as the block expired the editor resumed the behavior, making nonsensical changes, and turning valid "See also" links into red links. Considering that the editor has long-term access to this IP, I view it as the same as a registered account. I suggest an indefinite block. Jc3s5h (talk) 03:35, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it's been handled. The IP has been granted a three-month absence from Wikipedia. Favonian (talk) 08:44, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there; you recently blocked this editor for removing obscenity from another editor's talk page. I would concede that he should not have done so. It seems that this editor and his wife (user:82.11.178.239) have both been editing the same articles, and both are currently blocked; the IP by Fastily. They are clearly guilty of meatpuppetry (not, I think, sock) and of lack of understanding of wikipedia policy as it relates to user talk pages and to the absence of censorship here; I do wonder if the error is one of ignorance rather than deliberate disruption? Could I ask you to re-visit it and consider? --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 19:16, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A moving tale. My oath of office constrains me from making cynical remarks, but if you believe that Mr. and Mrs. Herbolzheim can become productive members of society, I won't object to you unblocking them. I expect that they will take your reading of the Riot Act to heart and refrain from "improving" other users' talk pages. Favonian (talk) 19:36, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Signature

Sorry about that, I've been away from Wikipedia for a bit. Yes, I did indeed request a rename. I've redirected the pages to the new name, though there may be some utility to better fix it. Sowsnek (talk) 21:59, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking care of that! In case you wonder why I took an interest in the matter, I was evaluating Talk:Marth#Requested move, checking among other things for SPAs, and your (at that time) red-linked user page and talk page were kind of conspicuous. Favonian (talk) 22:05, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Hi, I reccently found you vandilized the article Brony and your edits have been undone. --80.78.77.224 (talk) 20:50, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You need to read WP:VANDALISM in order to get your vocabulary straight. Any more of that crap and I'll block your IP and/or semi-protect the article. Favonian (talk) 20:53, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]