User talk:Bhockey10

Welcome to my talk page, please add your new comments, concerns, etc.. at the bottom of this page. Thanks, Bhockey10

Best wishes

Hi. Just wanted to wish you all the best for 2011. Maple Leaf (talk) 20:50, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Best wishes to you this year as well! :) Bhockey10 (talk) 03:42, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject United States

Hello, Bhockey10! WikiProject United States, an outreach effort supporting development of United States related articles in Wikipedia, has recently been restarted after a long period of inactivity. As a user who has shown an interest in United States related topics we wanted to invite you to join us in developing content relating to the United States. If you are interested please add your Username and area of interest to the members page here. Thank you!!!

--Kumioko (talk) 02:36, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Great American Conference

Bhockey, do you have a source on the establishment of the GAC headquarters in Russellville yet? I am under the impression this still hasn't been decided. If so, would you mind adding it to the page? Otherwise, I'll change it back to "undetermined" in a day or two.

Many thanks: —PigskinPhotog (talk) 01:40, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I saw it somewhere when I was browsing through some of the reports, they main news reports also say the same things as the espn/ap source already on the article, but after taking a better look at the espn/ap source, it looks like that the hq isn't in that source so I'll look for the one I saw mention of it, I should have taken better note when I saw it, but it was late last night. Bhockey10 (talk) 05:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I just removed my Russellville HQ edit on the article to avoid any controversy until I search for that source later. Also does the GAC have a website yet? Basically the only info on the conference has been in the few days back in Novemeber right after the announcement. Bhockey10 (talk) 05:36, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Shorter University

Greetings, Could you make the Shorter University logo a little smaller? It doesn't appear correctly on Facebook. Thank you Missd8 (talk) 06:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not sure I understand what you're looking for? it looks okay in the university infobox on the wikipedia article, I double checked and the image size is set in that infobox at 200px. Bhockey10 (talk) 17:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi!

Sorry, but I copied that word from Wikipedia itself. Thanks! Aerosprite the Legendary (talk) 22:39, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh I see that now, I just did a Google search and the site I found must have copied it from us. It looks like another user redirected back to the mention on Wikipedia before I got a chance. A redirect is probably more appropriate than a separate article. Bhockey10 (talk) 22:46, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lindenwood University

The article Lindenwood University you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Lindenwood University for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:22, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Copyediting

Hi, just a couple of points on your edit to the Lindenwood University article.

a) WP:MOS policy is that a multi-segment location should only be linked once - so in the case of Saint Charles, Missouri, United States, only the first location gets linked. This works on the basis that the average reader is aware of the United States and if they are not aware of Missouri they follow the Saint Charles link and it tells them.

b) In the sentence "In 2008 Lindenwood University announced plans to expand facilities at Lindenwood University-Belleville that would increase academic programs from an adult continuing education structure to offer traditional daytime semester-based programs.", use of the future conditional tense is incorrect. Since the plans to extends facilities have been announced they exist and therefore WILL increase - not WOULD future perfect tense.

Best, ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 01:38, Wednesday March 9, 2011 (UTC)

a) Although your explanation that the average reader is aware of USA and/or Missouri does make sense I've never seen that before on articles and didn't see that in WP:MOS. it would me the majority of articles, including many GAs and Featured articles i looked at working LU article to GA status, are incorrect. Could you point me to an exact location where it says that?

b) In the process of copyediting, you changed it from "...expanded..." to"...that WILL extend academic programs from...". Those plans already took place so that was incorrect too. I wasn't thinking and changed will to would but you correctly pointed out that is future perfect tense. It's now fixed and put back into past tense so it now reads "...that INCREASED academic programs from ..."

Thanks again for all your work copyediting and insight on a). Bhockey10 (talk) 03:01, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Infobox methodology

Comments on the Speedy Deletion of Infobox methodology: If you are going to delete it could you please point me to the already existing Infobox I can use for proposing a new methodology such as this and another one I am working on called DevOps Lifecycle. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noakz (talk • contribs) 20:04, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

• Creating an infobox is fine and useful but infoboxes are template pages not articles and start with Template:name of infobox. I've never created one, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Infoboxes might be helpful to see if one already exists and/or creating a new infobox. Bhockey10 (talk) 20:11, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: College Hockey

thanks for the welcome! and also thanks for the pointers on where i can help. when i linked to the list of Men's BB final four participants, what i meant was that i was considering making a similar page listing the men's ice hockey Frozen Four participants. is there already a list like this? Ivyred (talk) 04:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Hey!

Hey! Just wanted to thank you for your work on the St. Anselm article. I realize you and I are very similar, college kids who love working on wikipedia college articles, but also it seems (from your username) that you are a hockey fan. I am a huge Boston Bruins fan myself and am really excited about the playoffs! I assume you are probably St. Louis Blues as Lindenwood College is in Missouri. You clearly know how wikipedia works better than I, (one small glance at your userpage notes this, with all the accomplishments and articles you have worked on). If you want to be facebook friends to share tips on editing / smack talk for Hockey ;), my name on facebook is Eric John Ricci and I'm in the Saint Anselm College network (obviously). If not, I still look forward to discussing edits on wikipedia!

It's just a friendly thought, why not have another kind of hockey fan who's not a Bruins fan right? LOL --Ericci8996 (talk) 22:31, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks alot! I'm not on fb very much, especially with Wikipedia- it's far more productive personally and for society. I've lived a few different places so the Blues are in my top five. Milan Lucic is one of my fave players btw. Are there any plans for Saint Anselm to play DI hockey in the future? They have one of the top facilities and since Anselm and a few other NE-10 schools are the only DII hockey programs left they play down in DIII hockey. Also, you've done great work on the Saint Anselm article if you're every intrested Wikiproject Universities and also Wikiproject Ice hockey could also use more quality and experienced editors. In particular WikiProject Universities, there a lot of the non-GA university articles suffer from Academic boosterism and POV/COI issues. Bhockey10 (talk) 00:41, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

As you can tell from my delayed response unlike yourself I am on Facebook way more than Wikipedia LOL! I love that you love Milan Lucic, yet I was disappointed in how Game 1 went for Boston... Game 2 in the Bell Centre will NOT be easy and I hope we don't fall in a 0-2 hole... That's cool you've lived in many places! Where?!? I've lived in Rhide Island, (primary residence), summer house on cape cod, Massachusetts, and obviously life's in New Hampshire when I went to Saint A's... After graduating there in May, (pics of my graduation are actually on the saint a's page) I moved out to Onaha Nebraska to take science classes at Creighton University.... On the suggestions of tfe dental schools admissions committee ... Did I mentionn im pre dental!? The next wiki project i want to do is going to be whatever dental school I get into! To answer your question about Saint A's NE10 possible D1 switch, well it had been a rumor around campus but i remember reading a college newspaper and tfe director of athletics had no intentions of leaving D2... I wish we'd go D1... Did you play in college? I'll def get involved in wiki universities or hockey projects when icactually get into dental school! What was your major undergrad?--Ericci8996 (talk) 03:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Bellarmine University

I wanted to see if I could get your help updating the Bellarmine University page. My knowledge is very limited on wikipedia editing but I am learning as I go. Mainly I wanted to know if you would be wiling to help me update the main logo for the page and the watermark you recently added. These are both out of date logos for the university and should be replaced with the new ones that have been in use for three years now. Your help would be greatly appreciated! Also, I looked at some of your other work, Great Stuff! I would love for the Bellarmine page to end up as well done as the other pages you worked on! Murph5253 (talk) 11:57, 09 May 2011

I noticed a few photos recent uploaded and put on the article were all marked with own work and given free license tags. Historical photos are public domain and the B&W 1950s photos are bordering the historical period so I left those. The 2010 aerial shot and picture of the current university president were the suspect ones because the president picture looked very professional and for the aerial, not many people hop into planes to take pics. If they are of your own work-great job. If they are from another source they need a proper citation to avoid copyright infringement. Thanks! Bhockey10 (talk) 03:03, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I assure you the photos you removed are mine and I have the rights to them. And I believe they are cited and sourced properly. (Murph5253 (talk) 18:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC))

Thanks! And I appreciate your concern. (Murph5253 (talk) 20:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC))

Schools AfD

Hi. I appreciate your concern for non notable primary schools. However, the standard solution established by years of precedent and practice involving thousands of school articles, is to redirect to the page about the school district (USA), or the education section of the page about the school's locality. Redirects are uncontroversial and can be done without discussion if the school does not assert notability. All AfD invariably end up as 'redirect' so there would appear to be little advantage in opening an AfD discussion before some change to this practice has been installed following a formal debate. If you wish, you are perfectly free to begin such a discussion yourself. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

It's not just non notable schools, the main issue is that precedent seems to contradict most other article topics with similar levels of non notability. It's been awhile and Wikipedia has changed a lot in the few years I've been here, let alone when that was set and it needs a good review. There are some primary schools that are deleted, although yes, most are redirected. And there's many more articles that need redirected. It's a lot of extra maintenance for really unnecessary articles that should be easily deleted or speedily deleted. Most other orgs, groups, businesses with similar levels of non-notability would be speedily deleted or deleted through AfD rather quickly. Particularly elementary schools there's so many of them and most are very localized. Where would a formal debate take place, on an AFD discussion page, WikiProject Schools discussion page or other...? Thanks! Bhockey10 (talk) 06:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

The policy (or guideline, whatever) has been in operation since before I had much to with Wikipedia, and that's a long time too. Schools definitely enjoy some privileges - especially that of inherent notability for all high schools - indeed, they can't even be speedy deleted per WP:CSD#A7. In fact, as long as there is no doubt as to the existence of high schools and they provide mainstream education post Grade 9, the are allowed to stay as unreferenced permastubs (no that I personally think that it's a good idea). On the purely practical side, redirecting instead of AfD avoids clogging up the system with AfD especially when the outcome is going to be 'redirect' anyway. If you would like to start a single-handed motion to get it changed, then probably the first place to begin is a by making a proposal at the Village Pump. However, I think you'll find that it's listed as a WP:PERENNIAL so redebating it is unlikely achieve a new consensus. The irony is, that nothing actually gets 'deleted', as in removed from the server. Deleted pages are only hidden from public view, so there's not even a practical advantage in going through the primary schools that have slipped through the net schools and redirecting them all. It wouldn't be too difficult though, if one were to use AWB. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:19, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Was there any one specific discussion on it or just precedent from various primary school Afds. I'm fine with high school and above having inherent notability. Quality articles can be written on them and although High schools are still local, they are less localized than primary schools. High School athletics, esp. in the US, can have thousands of fan attending games. The A7 should really be clarified giving inherent notability to secondary schools, the way it is worded now it covers all. Thanks for the help. Bhockey10 (talk) 18:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

A7 applies to all schools, because other schools can be redirected uncontroversially. Even a really crap article can be redirected, all we are doing in many cases is redirecting the name only. There are schools in other English speaking countries too, however, in some, particularly the UK, academic notability is focused far more on academic achievement than on sports where inter-school/college games have a very low profile compared to US educational culture. Inherent notability for high schools is laid down in policy - although even Wikipedia policy is not graven in stone, so there is no need to IAR on this. The precedent for redirecting nn primary and middle schools is not policy, but is an accepted procedure as explained above. It's not broken, so there is no real need to fix it. My philosophy at Wikipedia, which is shared by many who work on various policy issues, is that the way forward is to improve existing policies and practice, and make new ones for issues that are genuinely problematic, such as for example WP:NPP, and WP:RfA, to mention but just two. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:56, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Valor Christian College

That wasn't cleanup, you replaced a redirect with copyvio from [1]. Dougweller (talk) 04:42, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing the issue to my attention, without edit summary or copyvio tags I was unaware of the issue. Note:see reply on talk page. Bhockey10 (talk) 06:04, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Lindenwood latin motto translation?

Why do you insist on this translation? Please, where did you find this translation? You have posted no evidence of "character" being used for Natura which is "nature" in latin. Please see all translations of Natura on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_university_mottos then show me where Lindenwood has translated Natura to "character". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.205.7.104 (talk) 15:40, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Your previous edit "Essential Qualities, Innate Disposition, and Learning" pretty much means the same things, as a person's qualities and disposition are part of character. Natural in latin has a few meanings: birth, nature, character, qualities or disposition, an element, substance, essence. Doctrina means: education, learning, science, teaching, instruction, principle, doctrine. Translations often can have more than one similar meaning, I searched for references but didn't find any, I suspect many of the translations on the List of university mottos also have more than one meaning. As long as we have the translation as one of the possible exact translations I'm happy, we may never know which exact translation for LU and many of the universities' founders from that list meant. Bhockey10 (talk) 22:25, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

BGSU

Good job on the new additions to the BGSU article. My only cautions are to make sure the mentions of the new buildings A) don't sound too promotional, and B) don't have too many details (which can make them sound too promotional and/or seem like fancruft). The history section should mostly be mentioning their construction and possibly the reasons behind their construction. Seemed like a lot of the details about each building aren't really needed for the history section; certainly not a paragraph about each one. They can either be mentioned in the facilities section or in that building's own article (like the Stroh Center), if at all. Be careful too that the "recent events" section doesn't dominate the history section. BG is 100 years old, but half of the history section is from the last 3 years. --JonRidinger (talk) 02:17, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Darn, you beat me too it, the article needs quite of bit of work in general. I liked your idea of condensing some of the resent construction info The edit in question was more about getting the info down, I planned on pretty much doing what you suggested but ran out of time the other day- I moved some of the details to the Stroh Center main article and also some of the other info on buildings to the Campus section which is more appropriate for the specific uses, locations, and other info about current on-campus structures. The history section in general is fairly short, both in the early history and recent history subsections need expansion, that reminded me and I placed an expansion needed tag to help direct other editors to expand that section. Also any future help on the article by yourself or if you know of other interested wikipedians is much appreciated, especially historical info! Bhockey10 (talk) 19:02, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. I would imagine that with the Centennial last year that a fairly thorough history of BG has been published and is available somewhere nearby. Just wanted to make sure it didn't look like me swooping in and removing tons of your work! --JonRidinger (talk) 19:49, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

You seem like another experienced editor and I'd have no problem if you made a bold edit, esp since we're thinking along the same lines. When I'm overhauling an article I tend to add more content and just get it and the references in then trim and move it around later. Since I haven't worked down lower than the History section yet I put most of the building details there first. Good idea on the Centennial, I'll try to dig some stuff up too. Thanks and happy editing! Bhockey10 (talk) 22:34, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Reply

Hi Bh,
I posted an additional reply at the bottom of User talk:Peter Horn#ha vs km2 Peter Horn User talk 21:53, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

The hectare article and your info was helpful, learn something new every day. I agree it seems the hectare is the proper measurement for land/property. Keep of the good work. Bhockey10 (talk) 21:21, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: RIT Tigers men's ice hockey roster Templates

I'm sorry, but I don't see how it meets the criteria for speedy deletion. It's not a duplicate, as it is for a different season and includes different names. Powers ^T 12:11, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

"We don't do it that way" is not a speedy criterion. TfD it if you must, but it clearly does not in any way shape or form meet the speedy criteria. Powers ^T 22:46, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

The presedent explaination was an additional explaination to the T3 criteria 1) "not employed in any useful fashion" and 2) while not an exact duplicate it is a "substantial duplication" because there's generally only minor changes from season to season. But if you still don't get it I will put it up for templates for discussion. Bhockey10 (talk) 22:57, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Lindenwood Lions

Hi there. I just found out that the Lindenwood Lions women's team will be in NCAA Division I this year. I created a season page 2011–12 Lindenwood Lady Lions ice hockey season but just wanted to say that you did a superlative job on the women's team's page. Outstanding!!!

		The Original Barnstar
		For superlative work on the Lindenwood Lady Lions ice hockey page and for college hockey in general, please accept my gratitude and this barnstar. Maple Leaf (talk) 18:28, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

• Thanks so much!!! That's my first barnstar for article work. Also thanks for your work on starting the Lindenwood 2011-12 season article, as well as getting many of the other women's hockey season articles going. Bhockey10 (talk) 00:40, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

NAIH

"The NAIH follows the NCAA Division I rules of play with the exception that former Major junior players are eligible unlike the NCAA or ACHA," NCAA allows major players to play under certain circumstances. Therefore student-athletes who compete in Major Junior jeopardize some or all of their NCAA athletic eligibility because they fail to remain “amateurs” as per NCAA regulations but numerous players have appealed the process and played in the NCAA. Sportslogo (talk)