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Google description of Wikipedia

Hi, where is it possible to change the description of Wikipedia (Main Page in Slovene) offered by Google in the first line under the link? --Eleassar my talk 15:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's chosen by Google and depends on the circumstances. Sometimes they copy it from the Open Directory Project. Which search do you make and what does the resulting description say for you? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:49, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Using the search term "wikipedia" in the main Google query box returns http://www.wikipedia.org/ as the top hit, described as "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceyockey (talk • contribs) 02:21, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The source of http://www.wikipedia.org/ says <meta name="description" content="Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." />. http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glavna_stran (Main Page in Slovene) has no such tag. Editors cannot set the meta description tag of Wikipedia pages. mw:Extension:ExplicitDescription is not installed. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:35, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Searching for "wikipedia" gives me the link to Slovene Wikipedia as the first choice and describes it as "Wikipedia® is a trademark of the non-profit organization Wikimedia Foundation Inc. Privacy Policy..." Instead, I think it should be emphasised that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. --Eleassar my talk 09:00, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Google must give the Slovene Wikipedia as first hit because you have a Slovene IP address or they have registered some connection to Slovenia for you. Do you really get the text as quoted in English? The text has zero Google hits. The English Main Page says "Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a non-profit organization." If I search wikipedia site:sl.wikipedia.org in Google then I get "Wikipedia® je tržna znamka neprofitne organizacije Wikimedia Foundation Inc. Politika zasebnosti ..." This is simply quoting from the first and only occurrence of "Wikipedia" on the Slovene Main Page (Wikipedia is written Wikipediji in Slovene). Quoting the context of the search term is normal behaviour for Google and other search engines. I don't think we should worry about Google search blurbs except when they still show serious vandalism. In such cases Google can be asked to reindex the page quickly. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:00, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're right about the Slovene IP address. The text I've provided is the English translation of the Slovene text that you have written. I think a more informative excerpt would be better. --Eleassar my talk 12:05, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We don't control Google. Their excerpt will often depend on the search term. It makes sense that they quote the context of the search term. As mentioned, some Google descriptions are copied from the Open Directory Project. You could attempt to submit the Slovene Wikipedia at their Slovene directory http://www.dmoz.org/World/Slovensko/. If a submission is accepted then Google may or may not use the submitted description for some searches at a later time. I wouldn't worry about a Google excerpt unless it's directly harmful. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This, then, is a request for Meta, or Bugzilla. Rich Farmbrough, 17:07, 4 September 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Resolved
 – Bug fixed. —mc10 (t/c) 00:58, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I found a bug while examining Wikipedia:Help desk#Generated confirm email link appears to be broken (404 - File Not Found). The secure server currently sends out email confirmation links starting with http://en.wikipedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Special:ConfirmEmail. This looks like a hodgepodge of a normal and secure link, and it gives a 404 error. It should be either http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ConfirmEmail or https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Special:ConfirmEmail. Can somebody fix it or report it in a better place? Thanks. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:18, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have submitted it as bugzilla:30647. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:59, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The bug has been fixed. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:38, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Skin

Can somebody tell me on monobook how to change the background colour of the skin from grey white streaky to dark blue and the side text white? I just want the frame of the page to be much darker, the top strip and the side panel. When I change the background colour in my browser it paints the whole page that colour. I want to retain the white page but with a dark background to make it stand out Does somebody have any coding to do this?♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:53, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can edit your monobook.css page, and add CSS rules there. I'm not sure what you mean by "side text white", but to change your background color, something like the following should work:
body {
    background: #00008B; /* Or a similar color */
}
Hope that works. —mc10 (t/c) 01:04, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I mean if you have a dark border you will need white text so you can read it in contrast..♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:14, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Consequence on the servers of a change in the noinclude section of a template

Hi everybody. I have a very technical question for you.

Suppose I have a template used in one million pages (on French Wiktionary it's not theoritical, there is at least one template which is on every single page in main namespace).

  1. If I add a block <noinclude>foo</noinclude> without modifing anything else, will the cache servers understand that nothing has changed, or will they put one million pages into the job queue?
  2. If I change anything between already existing <noinclude>...</noinclude> tags, same question.

Hoping you'll help me to understand all that, regards. --GaAs (d) 19:17, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think they'll understand in both cases that the job queue doesn't need to be updated, and I'm more confident for the second question, but I'm not quite sure. If that's not so, it's a bug in MediaWiki. Ucucha (talk) 23:20, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How sure are you? I'm very sure that as of at least a couple years ago either operation would invalidate all the pages that the template was transcluded on. As to the underlying question, if this is something you only need to do rarely, then don't worry about it. Invalidating a million pages isn't going to destroy the servers, and actually isn't that big a deal. (Though, there is a good chance you could get a timeout error when you save the update to a very widely transcluded template. Such errors occur when the updating process is temporarily overwhelmed but have no real long-term consequences.) Dragons flight (talk) 00:07, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why does it matter? Happy‑melon 10:47, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

usernames

I've been attempting to create an account here but have been thwarted by the lack of any clear guidelines on usernames. Existing users seem to have a wide variety of creative names, but my ASCII-only attempts result in "You have not specified a valid user name", without any indication of what is wrong. 111.233.10.80 (talk) 10:56, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The software allows the full Unicode character set to be used, so that editors from Russia or Japan, say, can choose names in their own language. However, a few characters are not allowed, because they would cause problems when pages are displayed. According to this page, the following characters are not allowed: # < > [ ] | { } and _. Are you being mislead by the decorative signatures that some editors use? For example, there's a user here named "Orangemike" who signs as <font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>. The font tag is part of his signature, not part of his username. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:14, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) I'm not sure - perhaps the username is already in use? If you have difficulty you can try the Wikipedia:Request an account process instead. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:16, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see where in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)#Forbidden characters it specifies that underscores are disallowed, nor where it says that any of these guidelines apply to usernames. And I have no idea how I was expected to find this information. I imagine other potential users would find it helpful if this were incorporated into the signup page in some way. Nonetheless thank you for letting me know what the problem was. = ) 111.233.10.80 (talk) 12:42, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It was removed as part of the outreach:Account Creation Improvement Project. Apparently people hate reading instructions which is fine if they'd improve the error messages. — Dispenser 12:57, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Spaces, underlines and non-breaking spaces are treated equivalently in page names (black hole, black_hole and black hole being the same article); that ought to apply to user names too (or underlines forbidden altogether) otherwise in principle two users could find themselves sharing a user page. I'll try to log in using underlines instead of spaces in my user name, now...
― A. di M.​plé​dréachtaí 19:26, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It works!
― A. di M.​plé​dréachtaí 19:32, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just for the notice: two underscores/whitespaces (so Black__Hole) are technically forbidden... mabdul 05:45, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed with regular expressions

I use NoScript, and some toolserv scripts, like this one and a bunch of others trigger the XSS protection. The help page is written in what to me is high CS geek. The console contains code like ^https?://([a-z]+)\.google\.(?:[a-z]{1,3}\.)?[a-z]+/(?:search|custom|\1)\? ^https?://([a-z]*)\.?search\.yahoo\.com/search(?:\?|/\1\b) ^https?://[a-z]+\.wikipedia\.org/wiki/[^"<>\?%]+$ ^https?://translate\.google\.com/translate_t[^"'<>\?%]+$ ^https://secure\.wikimedia\.org/wikipedia/[a-z]+/wiki/[^"<>\?%]+$ I don't really understand it :( I tried adding the following to the NS XSS console ^https:?//toolserver\.org/[^"<>\?%]+$ but it doesn't seem to do the trick :( Can somebody suggest what I need to add to it to let all toolserv scripts work without the annoying reload? Thanks! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 04:53, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the first question mark in your regex is in the wrong place; it should be after the s and not after the colon. Ucucha (talk) 05:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Updated, but the console is still not treating toolserv as a whitelisted site. Why the %#% did they cram all those parameters in? How can I tell it to allow everything from toolserv.org? Sigh. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 03:05, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
tools:~dispenser/view/Help#NoScript's Anti-XSS protection — Hope that helps. — Dispenser 11:46, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it seems to have fixed the issue! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:09, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

copy of Template:ARSHa

Can someone with admin powers temporarily undelete this page for me? I just need to see the coding. thank you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:ARSHa&action=edit&redlink=1

Okip 22:14, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. :) It's at User:Okip/ARSHA. When you're finished with it, you can just retag it. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:01, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Soxred's rangecontribs tool

Soxred's rangecontribs tool is not working for me. I am getting a blank page in Firefox and a HTTP 500 error in IE. Is there any alternative rangecontribs tool available?--Sodabottle (talk) 06:16, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The tool has been down for a few days now, and has been reported here. I do not believe there are any other similar tools. Sorry. - Hydroxonium (T•C•V) 01:15, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There is a gadget in preferences. Plus I have a userscript that supports more ranges than the gadget; I can publish it if anybody wants. — AlexSm 04:00, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much, Alex. Yes, could you please publish the userscript? I know there are a few people here and at X!'s talk page that would appreciate your script. Thanks. - Hydroxonium (T•C•V) 04:05, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Watchlist key generator suggestion

I've discovered that watchlist keys can include non-hex characters, and can be a lot longer than the default length. Is there a reason that the key generator uses only hex characters and relatively short keys? If there's no good reason, I suggest that the key generator be adapted to take advantage of this ability for stronger security. Pinetalk 08:56, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IIRC, the preload is a random number run through an MD5 hash a few times, hence the size and syntax. Happy‑melon 10:52, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How random is the random number? If it comes from a PRNG seeded with the time the page was generated... OK, I'll shut up now (not that I would consider it such a tragedy if someone stole my watchlist token).
― A. di M.​plé​dréachtaí 19:22, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
For some users, watchlist privacy is a big deal. I'm not one of them but given the choice to make watchlist security better, I think that it should be done. How would I submit this to developers as a suggestion? Pinetalk 21:06, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If your watchlist privacy is a big deal for you, you should choose your own watchlist token, not one generated for you. But if you want to suggest something to the developers, you can do so on Bugzilla. User<Svick>.Talk(); 21:18, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aligning Route Diagram Templates horizontally

Per discussion I have created a series of historical route diagram templates for the MBTA Orange Line. You can view them here. The original plan was to align all 5 horizontally to make the changes easier to follow. However, I am unable to find a way to do so. Simply listing them stacks them vertically; putting them in a table breaks the RDT formatting. I don't have the html/css skills to craft my own solution. Help! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 13:58, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Add unwatch link to each link on watch page

This would be handy. Essentially turn (diff | hist) into (diff | hist | unwatch) by each item on your watchlist, so when something pops up there and it occurs to you that you don't really care about it any more you can banish it in one click... Egg Centric 15:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This one or this one do something similar, and there are some links there to similar things. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 15:50, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gadget troubles

I've been using the gadget that adds to dropdown boxes with default edit summaries, but the minor summaries add the text "Common edit summaries - click to use" instead of the edit summary picked. Is it possible for someone to fix this? --Nathan2055talk - review 16:21, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My talk page got corrupted

I have no idea how, but during the night, User talk:Piotrus turned into half-gibberish. What's weird is that it seems to affect all past revisions I can see, even through I know they are good, so I cannot simply revert. I tried editing past versions, they show gibberish. I tried different browsers, same problem. What gives? Is it some widespread problem, or is it a localized failure? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 16:50, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the behaviour of something in User:Piotrus/Talkheader has changed. To find out what, you might need to copy it over and preview without one or more elements. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 16:53, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is more widespread, at least for me. I tried editing an article (Virtuti Militari), and the edit window shows the garbled text (this time I was able to self-revert). However, editing as an anon seems to have fixed the problem. This suggests a problem with my account, but not the page. I guess I'll go off to investigate my monobook, scripts and such. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 16:59, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the problem must be on your end. Did you install any new scripts, browser plugins, etc. recently? Does the problem appear on all pages you edit while logged in? Ucucha (talk) 17:09, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And I've tracked the problem to User:Cacycle/wikEd. Disabling it stopped pages from getting corrupted. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:08, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Creating pages with preloaded content

Hi. I asked this at the Help desk yesterday but have gotten no response, so I thought I would ask here. If I need to ask somewhere else, please direct me.

I would like to be able to create a page from a redlink with preloaded content. this section on WP:RFA does it with an input box using the |preload=page parameter, but I would like to do it with a redlink. There are redlinks in Template:NRHP Article Archive and Template:NRHP Picture Archive that users click on to archive new pictures/articles every month. Each month's archive has the same basic formatting: archive header at the top, followed by a search box, followed by a link to the opposite archive (i.e. picture archives link to article archives and vice versa), then an h2 heading, followed by the list. I've successfully moved a lot of this into the two templates above, but when a user clicks on the redlinks, I would like for the resultant pages to preload the template call, as well as the month/year heading seen on all the archive pages in the above templates. Specifically, I would like the new pages to be preloaded with the following content:

Article archives
{{NRHP Article Archive}}

== {{subst:SUBPAGENAME}} ==
Picture archives
{{NRHP Picture Archive}}

== {{subst:SUBPAGENAME}} ==

Does anyone know how to accomplish this? Thanks!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 16:51, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You could use an ifexist: statement such that when the page does not exist, a preload link (coloured red) is included instead of the link to the non-existent page.

{{#ifexist:Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/New articles/September 2011|[[Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/New articles/September 2011|September]]|[preload-hyperlink <font color="red">September</font>]}}

Then they can click the red month (use the correct web colour, not just "red" ;>), and once the page is created, it will instead display the link. –xenotalk 16:56, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Building on what xeno said, you can do something like this: {{#ifexist: <article>||<span style="font-color: red;">[{{fullurl:<article>|action=edit&redlink=1&preload=Template:NRHP_Article_Archive/preload}} <article>]</span>}}, where Template:NRHP Article Archive/preload contains the preloaded text. Ucucha (talk) 17:05, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget what to do when page exists (i.e. show the bluelink) in between the || there =) –xenotalk 17:08, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Doing nothing is a legitimate option. :) Ucucha (talk) 17:10, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help, guys (Sorry for the late response.. I forgot to watch this page.) I tried the #fullurl suggestion(s) above, but the span with font-color is overridden by the CSS for external links, and the link turns blue with the arrow sign: September (never mind that I haven't created the subpage.. that won't change the link). I tried several methods to override that CSS... class="plainlinks" gets rid of the arrow, but I couldn't figure out how to color the link red. Any ideas?--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 02:03, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Try this:

{{#ifexist: Wikipedia:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Historic_Places/New_articles/September_2011 | [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Historic_Places/New_articles/September_2011|September]] | <span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Historic_Places/New_articles/September_2011|action=edit&preload=Template:NRHP_Article_Archive/preload}} <font color="#BA0000">September</font>]</span> }}

and don't forget to create the subpage Template:NRHP Article Archive/preload. Goodvac (talk) 02:26, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I didn't think about using a font/span tag inside the link.. brilliant! I was actually doing some searching around after you suggested this and found Template:Preload. I've now modified it to be able to handle a link color, and I've made use of it in {{NRHP Article Archive}}. Now on to the picture archive! Thanks for all the help!--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 03:17, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How to add extra buttons to the toolbar (for common use templates)

There are some templates I use very frequently (welcome, for example). I'd like to be able to add them with one click. Is there any script/feature that would allow me to tie buttons (tabs, whatsnot) into templates I'd define? I asked for this feature to be added to wikEd but since I got no reply there for weeks, I need to search elsewhere. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:23, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, see my monobook for 'extraeditbuttons'. –xenotalk 17:45, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
User:MarkS/extraeditbuttons.js? I thought those died years ago, I was using them before they were obsolete by the some MediaWiki updates. I even suggested it here a while ago that somebody should take it over, but nobody did. Hmm, let's see if it works now... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 20:33, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sadly, the extraeditbuttons seem as dead as I remember. I added them to my vector skin, but I still see the unchanged edit toolbar. I tried disabling the editing toolbar in the preferences, but that did nothing. And Xeno, looking at your monobook, I see you've imported the script but are not doing anything with it? I think one needs (needed) to play with those settings to see changes. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 20:43, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I currently have two custom buttons, one that says *{{notdone}} ~~~~ and another that says *{{done}} ~~~~. –xenotalk 03:50, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I tried adding your version of the script to mine ([1]) but no effect. I wonder why? Could it be that it doesn't work under vector? Has anybody got it working on vector? Is it conflicting with some other script or setting? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 17:40, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Did you refresh your cache? I don't know if it will work in vector. –xenotalk 17:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't the edit conflict blocker work with the undo feature?

Look at this pair of edits: [2][3]. I had seen the diff of the edit by Loupatriz67, clicked on the “undo” link, found a compromise wording, typed an edit summary, and saved the page, and it all went smoothly; I didn't notice the intervening edit by Headbomb until much later. How comes I wasn't warned about the edit conflict?
― A. di M.​plé​dréachtaí 19:15, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Data running together when in edit mode

I don't now if I am the only one having this problem but ever since I logged in this morning when I try and edit an article the text is all run together. Normally it would show bullets like this:

  • Example 1
  • Example 2
  • Example 3

But today its like this: *Example 1*Example 2*Example 3. Its really infuriating. --Kumioko (talk) 23:07, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is a bug in WP:WIKED that has already been fixed. Bypassing your cache should remove the problem. Ucucha (talk) 23:12, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've already tried that but it didn't work. Any other ideas? --Kumioko (talk) 00:14, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose something else could have produced the exact same bug at the same time, but that would be quite unlikely. Perhaps you need some more aggressive cache-emptying, or you're using some wrong version of wikEd. Ucucha (talk) 00:26, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I figured it out. Its working now. I uninstalled Firefox and reinstalled it and now its working. Thanks for the help. --Kumioko (talk) 01:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion#Overlap

Would an editor be able to help at Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion#Overlap (permanent link)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:04, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Own subpage created too quickly: how can it be discarded / deleted

Hello to the administrator or user who would like to help a lost ± newbie!

I am sorry if here is the wrong place to ask this, but I didn't find a Wikipedia page that is exactly adequate to deal with this problem:
I thought I was on Wiktionary, and I was surprised not to find the Russian word язык (language). I was ready then to create the article, as the message proposed it. Then I clicked too swiftly on a very practical link (when needed), but it was too late when I realized that 'Язык' had a capital, which may not be done on Wiktionary (except when you create an article about a proper name or an acronym). This 'user subpage' has the following url: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Air_Miss/%D0%AF%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA&action=edit&preload=Template:Article_wizard/userpageskeleton&editintro=Wikipedia:Article_wizard/Wizard-New_edit_instructions_userdraft

Could any wizard help me, simply deleting this user subpage I don't need? I will send this wizard a friendly kiss through the air for helping! --Air Miss Ѡ 09:46, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Air Miss/Язык does not exist; it hasn't been saved. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:53, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Right. Perhaps you were confused by seeing prefilled content in the edit box for your url http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Air_Miss/%D0%AF%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BA&action=edit&preload=Template:Article_wizard/userpageskeleton&editintro=Wikipedia:Article_wizard/Wizard-New_edit_instructions_userdraft. This content is loaded from Template:Article_wizard/userpageskeleton by preload=Template:Article_wizard/userpageskeleton in the url. You didn't click Save page so nothing was saved. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:55, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But should you need it in the future, try Wikipedia:Speedy#User pages - X201 (talk) 12:07, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Huggle error

My Huggle script has noticed me twice times today, that “an error occurred and needs to close”. What could possibly cause this error? Alex discussion ★ 17:27, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Typically this page is used for discussion of bugs in Wikipedia. I think you should report this at WT:HG, which might get more Huggle developers to see it. Thanks, Nathan2055talk - review 18:05, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gadget not working

I've noticed yesterday and today that the "Improved diff view" gadget (listed under Preferences, Gadgets, Editing, and described as part of wikEd) is not working for me. I use Firefox 6.0.1. When I click on the green icon below the default diff display, nothing happens. Any help? --Tryptofish (talk) 19:48, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It has already been reported at User talk:Cacycle/wikEd#Error message about local diff script. Further discussion belongs there. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:12, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As reported there, the issue has now been fixed. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:52, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User Wikipedian for

I just noticed on my user page the text in this template misses a space. It reads "This user has been on Wikipedia for 9 yearsand 12 days." I have no idea how to fix this. Besides, the template appears to be full-protected. Anyone know what's wrong with it?--Atlan (talk) 23:06, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I messed it up. It's now been fixed (I hope). Ucucha (talk) 23:33, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That did the trick, thanks.--Atlan (talk) 23:36, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Abuse filter doesn't include ebay listings?

Call me crazy but I can't see any reason not to automatically reject edits like this. Equazcion (talk) 01:04, 6 Sep 2011 (UTC)

The spam blacklist can prevent such edits. MER-C 10:41, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Substitution problem

I created a template, User:UcuchaBot/FAS line, that is intended to be used substituted on WP:FAS; all templates and magic words called should also be substituted. However, substituting currently doesn't work, in that #expr throws an error in the fourth cell. See this example:


|- |Aug 2011 | 3730 | 6639 | Expression error: Unrecognised punctuation character "{"% | 32 | 4 | style="background: #FFE3E3; color: black; vertical-align: middle; text-align: center; " class="table-no2" |28 | 43 | 105

Does anyone know whether there is a way of using subst: or perhaps safesubst: that fixes this? Ucucha (talk) 01:20, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The problem may be that {{subst:FA number}} does not produce a number but a formatnum which evaluates to a number. PrimeHunter (talk) 06:09, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think you need another (includeonly'ed) "subst:" (or maybe more) for inside {{FA number}}.--Kotniski (talk) 11:11, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Or no. When deleting the subst: from that cell the error cell #7, the problem stays. I don't know the calling template. The cell is constructing a template with params. I'd try:
  • Check value of incoming params FAs promoted, FAs demoted. (is there a value at all, and is it numeric?) If logic allows, write {{{FAs promoted|0}}}-{{{FAs demoted|0}}}.
  • Check whether incoming templateused is OK (a template name)
  • Replace the template pipe with {{!}}
-DePiep (talk) 11:24, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You seem to be looking at the seventh cell. I was talking about the fourth cell.--Kotniski (talk) 11:32, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You are right. I moved my eyes because #4 looks OK now, and now #7 gives the #expr:-error. Which problem are we to solve now? -DePiep (talk)
Seems #4 looks OK on the template page itself, but not when the template is substituted - hopefully the addition of subst:'s inside {{FA number}} will fix it. As to #7, it generates an error on the template page, but possibly might work on substitution, provided the right parameters are fed in (though I'm somewhat sceptical...) --Kotniski (talk) 11:42, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) #7 gives an error in the template version only, which I don't care about. #4 is the important one, since it gives an error when the template is substituted (its intended use). I think PrimeHunter and Kotniski are right about the underlying problem, so I'll add some subst:-ing capabilities to FA number. Thanks all for the help. Ucucha (talk) 11:43, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Right. I'm off for a cup of tea then. -DePiep (talk) 12:01, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit box citation feature

Resolved

How it will appear to you will depend on the skin you're using and possibly any user-scripts you've added, but in File:EditBox.jpg the top row has a "Cite" toggle. As you can see, it's been activated, so the line below includes a "templates" drop-down. If you select that, you get a list of templates, and selecting one of those gives you a dialogue box to complete.

What is this set of features called, and where do we go, to propose changes to it? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 09:51, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is WP:RefToolbar. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 09:59, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So it is. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 11:07, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Broken thumbnail

Hi! I've uploaded a picture of my own work at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cyclopentolate_1%25_Pupils.jpg#file, however the thumbnail appears to be broken. If you click on the broken thumbnail the image loads correctly. Not sure if it's something I've done wrong (most likely!) Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Ilovebaddies (talk) 17:51, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weird. Maybe the percentage symbol in the name is causing problems? I don't feel like there'd be anything in the image itself that is causing problems. Gary King (talk · scripts) 21:03, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
When I go the thumbnail's URL (http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/07/Cyclopentolate_1%25_Pupils.jpg/800px-Cyclopentolate_1%25_Pupils.jpg), I get the following error: "Error generating thumbnail Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/mnt/thumbs/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/07/Cyclopentolate_1%%_Pupils.jpg/800px-Cyclopentolate_1%%_Pupils.jpg': @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2498." Notice the double % in that path; I think the percentage sign may indeed be the culprit. Ucucha (talk) 21:05, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, that'll do it. I've moved the file and spelled out "percent", and that took care of it. Avicennasis @ 21:38, 7 Elul 5771 / 21:38, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

bugzilla:30789. Ucucha (talk) 22:37, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Statistics progrma not updated

I'm not sure why but it seems like the Article statistics program isn't displaying the updated data from Sept 1 forward. The developer of the app (Henrik) Hasn't made an edit since March 2011 so I thought I would leave it here instead. Here is a link to the tool with an example. --Kumioko (talk) 18:46, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weirdly, http://stats.grok.se/en/201109/United_States does not show past the 1st, but http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/United_States shows right up through today's. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:47, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I noticed also the stats have stopped for a while. Henrik may not have contributed as a user since March, but he or somebody is reading his email. Usually, if somebody emails Henrik, he gets it fixed. --Maile66 (talk) 23:04, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok thanks Ill send him something today. --Kumioko (talk) 14:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to be updating again, but I see there are some discrepancies between United States (201109) and United States (latest): the "latest" figures are all one day ahead of the "201109" figures. —Bruce1eetalk 11:13, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How did italics show up in the article title?

The article is New York City Serenade (film). But I was the only contributor until a bot came along to mark it uncategorized. I'm not sure how to fix that, but I didn't put the italics in the title.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:00, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Those are produced by {{Infobox film}} using {{Italic title}}. Ucucha (talk) 21:02, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:20, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Non-existent image appears at Mayawati

Can anyone explain how does this non-existent image appear at the Mayawati article? Much obliged. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 00:02, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The link was in the infobox ... I've removed it.Tagishsimon (talk) 00:09, 7 September 2011 (UTC) --[reply]
I know where the filename was. But how can a non-existent filename render in an infobox? Am I missing something here? In other words, what server is this phantom image located in and how was it retrieved by the infobox? Dr.K. λogosπraxis 00:18, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No image appeared when I viewed the article. Are you saying that an image rendered, or a filename rendered? If the former, maybe something in your browser's cache? If the latter, that's what happens when you specify a filename fora non-existent file. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:22, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It was an actual image. Not a filename. Removing redlinked filenames from infoboxes is easy. Mayawati appeared in a political poster. I don't recall seeing this image before but maybe you are right and it was my browser's cache. I'll clear it and then try to see if it renders in the old revision, before you removed the filename. Thank you. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 00:28, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The file was recently (within a few hours) deleted from commons, see [4] ΔT The only constant 00:32, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Δ. It now appears as a redlink. It no longer renders as an actual pic, even though I did not clear my browser's cache. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 00:36, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request for protection

Hi! I didn't know where to ask this, but could someone put protection from IP for this article - Kārlis Skrastiņš - and maybe other Lokomotiv players too? Source. They maybe aren't death so it could be good to make a protection. Thanks.--Edgars2007 (Talk/Contributions) 13:49, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I semi-protected it. In the future you should ask for protection on WP:RFPP. Ruslik_Zero 14:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanhs!--Edgars2007 (Talk/Contributions) 14:40, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Disabling rollback button on watchlist

I've had numerous instances where I accidentally clicked the rollback button on my watchlist. It's particularly obnoxious when I sign in to check my watchlist on my smartphone. Is there currently a tool to disable it? Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:41, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

.page-Special_Watchlist .mw-rollback-link {display:none} in Special:MyPage/vector.css will do the trick. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
special:mypage/skin.css for non-vectorites. –xenotalk 22:15, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I couldn't remember the theme-independent name. Thanks. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:26, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to trigger that in JavaScript? I'm thinking of only disabling it on my phone, and I'll need a JavaScript call to ascertain my browser version. Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:34, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly you'll be able to do that with CSS alone, because MediaWiki associates some classes with the html element based on the client. Something like 
.client-phone .page-Special_Watchlist .mw-rollback-link {display:none}
, where ".client-phone" is the class that your phone gets, and which you should be able to find in the HTML source. Ucucha (talk) 01:53, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Finding Empty categories

Is there an easy want to take a parent category and check for empty sub-categories recursively? Avicennasis @ 23:32, 8 Elul 5771 / 23:32, 7 September 2011 (UTC)N[reply]

Maybe you are looking for something simpler, but if you click on all the little + signs next to the subcategory names, it will show the number of pages and categories within each next level subcategory. --After Midnight 0001 01:25, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm looking for something more automated. For something like Category:Stub categories, I can't imagine clicking through 10k+ sub-categories that way. :-) Avicennasis @ 01:31, 9 Elul 5771 /
You could ask someone like MZMcBride to do a database report for you. However, I suggest you look at Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories, noting the excluded phrases listed at the top: from today's report, I see only one empty stub category (Category:Uruguayan football defender stubs) and one empty stub-related category (Category:Uncategorized stubs from August 2011). — This, that, and the other (talk) 11:17, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's nifty, and useful. I've requested this report on Commons. Now, are there any tools that can sort subcats by number of pages in them? kinda like this, but with less manual labor on my part? Avicennasis @ 12:10, 10 Elul 5771 / 12:10, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Idea for new cite template.

I've noticed that there is no template to cite a film or movie. Could such a template be added? This might be particularly helpful for documentaries. NewManOfAnOldAge (talk) 01:31, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

{{Cite video}}, compliant with Citation Style 1. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 02:36, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why doesn't this show up under the Cite template list that is accessible whenever you are editing a wikipedia page? I see on that page a ton of cite templates but under this template list you can only cite web, news, book and journal. NewManOfAnOldAge (talk) 20:48, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You can discuss that at WP:Reftoolbar. ProveIt GT supports most of the CS1 templates; enable it by setting Preferences → Gadgets → ProveIt. I added tool support to Citation Style 1. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 06:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Error 403

I am getting an error 403 on my smartphone and cannot log in--Woogie10w (talk) 11:44, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK now signed in on a secure server--Woogie10w (talk) 12:23, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ayuda - Help

Si hay algún usuario que sepa idioma español, respóndame. El problema es que en Wikipedia en español tengo un usuario de nombre Ferdinand. Como ocurre con varios usuarios en español, al irse estos a la Wikipedia inglesa, sus usuarios existen. Resulta que no me ocurre eso porque en esta Wikipedia hay un User:Ferdinand que no ha tenido participación y está inactivo. Solicito su borrado. Tengo un usuario creado en la inglesa pero cuando entro con su cuenta, me cambia la cuenta en español y eso es mucha molestia. Muchas gracias :) --190.81.168.163 (talk) 23:42, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tenemos una página, WP:CHUU, para solicitudes como la suya. He pedido que un bureaucrat cambie el nombre del usuario Ferdinand de en.wikipedia, para que usted puede usar la cuenta de Ferdinand en en.wikipedia. Creo que usted tendría que ir a es:Especial:Fusionar_cuenta_global y crear un cuenta SUL. Ucucha (talk) 02:44, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User Contributions missing from Toolbox

In the left-hand column under Toolbox, I haven't been able to get User Contributions to display, even when I remove Expand Citations or any add'l gadget added there. The problem is in both IE9 and Firefox. Is there a bug out there? --Funandtrvl (talk) 01:29, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion seems to be having some .css issues, didn't know who to tell, thought you guys could fix it or pass it to the right place. Thanx. Mlpearc powwow 02:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is the problem? It looks fine to me. Ucucha (talk) 02:57, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry must be my browser. The "Centralized discussion" infobox is overlapping "Deleting pages in other people's userspace" options. Mlpearc powwow 03:36, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Looked fine to me in Opera, IE, and Chrome, but in Firefox I saw the overlay you were talking about. I've fixed it with this edit. (At least, it now renders correctly on my Firefox.) Let me know if that helped. Avicennasis @ 04:41, 11 Elul 5771 / 04:41, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No edit buttons for me on one particular page?

I am suddenly unable to see the section edit links at WP:FEED but I have them on every other WP page. And yes, I do have the 'section edit' option ennabled in my preferences. I already cleared my cache, have refreshed the page many times, have closed the page and then opened it in a new window, have tried it in FIrefox and in Safari...still no edit buttons on WP:FEED. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 03:05, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The main page is full-protected. You'll need to find the correct subpage. Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 03:10, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe he was trying to edit the protected page. He was trying to edit the individual subpages via the section edit links that should be on the main WP:FEED page but they were not there for him. -- Ϫ 03:53, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, if a page is protected from edits by a user then there will never be section edit links, not even when the section is transcluded from a page the user is able to edit. It might be confusing if some sections had edit links but not others or the whole page. If you click the "View source" tab then the bottom of the window will show a list of transcluded pages. Click on a page there and then you will have section edit links if you can edit the page. However, the protection of WP:FEED should probably be removed when it causes this problem. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:18, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, that's the case - the full-protection will suppress the section edit links from transcluded pages for non-admins. Avicennasis @ 04:34, 11 Elul 5771 / 04:34, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well jeez.. that would probably be the reason could be part of the reason (i just noticed it was only recently protected) why WP:FEED is so neglected! if only admins are able to easily provide feedback.. -- Ϫ 06:21, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, I see that you are right, that the edit links aren't there is you go to the main page. The edit links are there is you go to a particular day's page, such as Wikipedia:Requests for feedback/2011 September 10. However, a casual editor interested in providing feedback may not know to go to the day page. I can assure you that the protection is not the main problem, but I see that it could contribute.

However, there are a few problems. I didn't design the setup, someone else did, so I have only a limited understanding of how the page works. I thought it made sense to do it with the transclusions, but I now see a downside. One problem is that removing the protection won't help, as the intention is to edit the underlying page, not the transcluded page. So while I can remove the protection, or anyone else can, that will just encourage people to edit the transcluded page, and that's why it was fully protected. That said, with Protection removed, non admin could click on the section edit, which is what they are supposed to do, and someone will just have to clean up if someone tries to edit the whole page. Maybe one of the more knowledgeable readers can suggest a better option. Ideally, the whole page should be fully protected, but clicking on the edit button for an individual section would trigger the edit of the underlying section, than the transcluded section. However, feel free to change the protection to semi, if you think that is better than the current situation.

Another problem is that I've basically given up on Feedback. I was supplying much of the feedback, either directly, by doing it myself, or indirectly, by begging at the help desk for volunteers. I've written essays, and tried to get the welcoming committee and others interested, and frankly, there's just no interest, so I've given up. Maybe a better approach is to just shut it down.--SPhilbrickT 12:44, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, one could "fake" edit links for the days at least, to get people to the right page. Something like this should do it. Avicennasis @ 13:45, 11 Elul 5771 / 13:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weird obscene BLP image vandalism at Nelson's Collared Lemming

I can't see this in Chrome, IE 9 or FF6 but I've got an OTRS ticket that says that using Chrome on two different IPSs and with several computers there's an obscene image and that "The whole page is a hotlink to "lawlhwut.feenode.net" which chrome blocks as suspect malware." The image, an attack on User:NawlinWiki, does not move when you scroll (says the email). Dougweller (talk) 08:39, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how old the ticket is, but one of the called templates on that page was vandalized within the past few weeks. It's revdel'd, so I can't tell if that vandalism is the same one they are talking about. It could be something stuck in the cache - I would have them try opening the page in Google Chrome Incognito (which shouldn't load anything from Chrome's cache.) That's all I can think of. Otherwise, it loads fine on my Chrome as well. Avicennasis @ 10:51, 11 Elul 5771 / 10:51, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
New last night. I don't seem to be able to view it either, so I guess Oversight got involved. But he used several computers - the first time he wasn't at home, then he went home and used several computers there. Very odd. Dougweller (talk) 12:33, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The vandalism was discussed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive717#Dodo. It did indeed cause what the OTRS ticket says. It sounds like a version using the 21 August version of the template was still cached somewhere. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:13, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Weird though, two ISPs and several computers used during the last 36 hours showed the image. Dougweller (talk) 18:33, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template for regular tasks reminder

Is there a template for something like a regular tasks reminder? E.g. [[User:Me/ToDo]] 

{{Reminder
|Page     =Category:Some category
|ToDo     =Clean this or that
|Interval =Sundays
}}

If I visited [[User:Me/ToDo]] on a Monday there would a link to Category:Some category reading "Clean this or that". The date stuff is no problem with the help of magic words and parser functions. The problem is marking the task as done so it disappears until next Sunday.

The extension could be expanded to use "monthly", "Xth of the month", etc. Anyone got an idea how to properly handle it? --Subfader (talk) 16:51, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, using something like {{#ifeq: {{CURRENTDAYNAME}} | Sunday | [[:Category:Some category|Clean this or that]]}}, or some other magic word at mw:Help:Magic words#Date and time. Ucucha (talk) 20:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As I wrote that's not the problem. The problem is that it should appear until the task is done. If I come back online on Monday and not Sunday, the task should wait for me. If done, it should disappear. Next Sunday a new task appears. --Subfader (talk) 11:44, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What would be the switch between done/to-be-done? Category is empty? Editor (you) edits the templated page every week? -DePiep (talk) 12:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  1. switch is just an extended #ifeq and would mean the template would need to read all possible date configrations already. My example was simplified. Actually it'd also useful for reminding me on things like checking external sources without RSS regulary, for stuff like new images etc.

Horizontal scroll wierdness

I sort of remember seeing this before, but if you compare File:SCW reported ref problem.png, which is what I see, with File:Refs_of_Spanish_Civil_War2.jpg (another user), you'll notice that some – possibly importantly the last in their sections – go right off to the right. I'm on firefox, I think the other user (from the look of it) Google Chrome. There's nothing in the obvious wikimarkup to explain this. How can I fix it? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 20:50, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can confirm that the bug occurs in Chrome 13.0.782.220 as well as Safari 5.0.6 on Mac OS X 10.5. Ucucha (talk) 20:59, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have tried rearranging the refs but the last one ALWAYS sticks out in Spanish Civil War#Further Reading. – Plarem (User talk contribs) 21:05, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's a webkit bug which happens when a column width if forced wider then the available space. Since 60em is unlikely to break into columns anyway, I've removed those widths. — Edokter (talk) — 21:08, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, now we can pass the Spanish Civil War to GA. – Plarem (User talk contribs) 21:12, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Are you aware that WP:SIG#Images prohibits images in signatures? Ucucha (talk) 22:09, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Installation of extension

Following on from Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 73#Obtaining image dimensions, Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 78#Image height?, also other threads but most recently Template talk:Multiple image#image height, how would we go about getting mw:Extension:MediaFunctions installed on English Wikipedia? --Redrose64 (talk) 23:54, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You need: a) community consensus that we want it; and b) a sysadmin willing to turn the extension on (I don't know how robust the code is). The way to find such a sysadmin is by filing a bugzilla report. Ucucha (talk) 00:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Where would the appropriate place be to start a discussion to try for consensus?--Taylornate (talk) 01:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WP:Village pump (proposals), I suppose. Ucucha (talk) 01:40, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How to enable SOCKS proxy in Huggle?

Some wikipedians access wikipedia via SSH, in other words, they must use SOCKS proxy... Can anyone tell me if there is a direct way to enable SOCKS proxy in Huggle? Thanks! - Dr. Cravix ★Daydream Nation 01:48, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Diff formatting

Viewing the source code that produces the diff:

http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?oldid=449815434&diff=prev

One will see 

<span class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><ref name="T28 on RETROBrick"/> </span>

Can someone talk about when this new '"class" was introduced, and when it appears?

It used to be the case that 

<span class=\"diffchange\">some text here</span>

Was used to format all red text (and still is for the most part). Lately, though, I've been seeing the "diffchange diffchange-inline" format pop-up every once in a while -- and this was causing some issue with my scripts. Thanks, West.andrew.g (talk) 13:03, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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