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an award

Bhadani has proven to be an invaluable contributor of knowledge and a man of integrity and passion. He is a great Indian and a beloved person - his contributions are gigantic, and his presence among us is cherished. Thus, I present him this Golden Medal of Honor on the occasion of his 1st Wiki-anniversary on March 24th, 2006. Rama's Arrow 05:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My response to Rama:Your award, Image:Goldenwiki.png, including the accompanying citation, has made me overwhelmed with a sense of humbleness – Rama, I thank you for “praising” me so lavishly. I am working you as a volunteer like thousands and thousands of other Wikipedians who are all working to build the “sum total of human knowledge” – we all are information-soldiers of humanity, and we shall continue to create the best encyclopedia in the world. To-day itself, a news item was published in The Hindu about wikipedia, and I shall shortly be sharing the news on the page defence of the contents. Thank you my friend! --Bhadani 05:24, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy anniversary, Bhadaniji. You definitely have enough reasons to celebrate. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 07:05, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Actually anniversary would fall on 24th March 2006, the day on which Bhadani, the Wikipedians "was descended" after one day of labor pain as Mahuri & a mis-carriage of Bhadani@Bhadani.com. Rama being a benevolent God, has blessed me 10 days earlier! --Bhadani 07:14, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A slightly belated happy anniversary from me too. GizzaChat © 07:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Holi Hai! -- Sundar \talk \contribs 08:03, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You mentioned "a news item was published in The Hindu about wikipedia." Would you please tell the url link? Thanks GizzaChat © 09:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The News I am referring was something like the one found here: Wikipedia changes the Policy. --Bhadani 09:44, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even after so many days....

Hi Bhadani, thanks for the greetings and wish you the best of Holi too. As I am anyway writing to you, let me take this opportunity to clear some of my doubts about Wikipedia.

Even after so many days at Wikipedia, these things have continued to baffle me:

  1. Although I never had any issues as yet, I wanted to know how does one check for sock-puppeting? Is there any reliable way, or only the vague ones like time of activity and edit count? Is there any way to find the IP of a logged in user?
  2. Is there any way to find out what my/someones userpages are? It might happen that I create an orphan userpage and not access it for days. Is there any way to find out what all pages have been created?
  3. As Wikipedia gives its user freedom to maintain userpages, is there anything stopping people from using Wikipedia as a blog? The arguement that Wikipedia works on the same way isn't acceptable as RCPs patrol Wikipedia. I believe that most RCPs don't patrol userpages, and hence it is possible for users to use Wikipedia as free web space. It might be against the Wikipedia policy, but one isn't a thief until caught. What is more surprising is that Wikipedia allows multiple userspace images too. While such images may be scrutinized for copyvios, if one keeps his head low, it is possible for them to even use Wikipedia as flickr-like album.
  4. How do I run scripts on Wikipedia? For example, I want to keep track of how many users I have welcomed. I always write welcome in such edit summaries, but I still don't know how to run any such script.
  5. What is the difference between a sysop and an admin?

Your help will be greatly appreciated. Ambuj Saxena (talk) 09:47, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One more please...Is there any way to change my username? When I registered, I typed ambuj.saxena and it got changed to Ambuj.saxena. Is there any way I can change it to something like Ambuj.Saxena? Ambuj Saxena (talk) 10:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
For finding the pages created in the user space Interiot's tool might be a useful option though I don't think it catches moves. Ambuj seems to have created just two pages in his user space Tintin (talk) 10:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. --Bhadani 10:37, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
For your "one more," go to Wikipedia:Changing username or ask Nichalp for a name change. GizzaChat © 10:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tools mentioned, but they still have limitations as they tell user pages edited by me, and not my userpages. For example, it lists User:PEHowland, but misses Student Linguistics in IIT Kharagpur, which infact is technically my userpage's subpage. Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Replying to Ambuj's comments.

  1. Only those with Checkuser rights may be able to view the IP addresses to check for sockpuppetery. You would have to contact one of the listed members.
  2. I don't know about userpages. I've been wondering about that too. If you find out, please let me know. :)
  3. This is wikipedia's policy on userpages: Wikipedia:User page. Blogs are not welcome.
  4. As far as images are concerned, usually if one finds an image unsuitable for wikipedia usage, it is tagged and put on WP:IFD
  5. To run scripts you would need a bot account: See Wikipedia:Bots
  6. Sysop vs admin: No difference. See Wikipedia:Administrators
  7. Request a formal name change at Wikipedia:Changing username, and I'll change your name. :)

Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 05:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hai. I guess I have solved the mystery. This link will give your user sub-pages and User:Ambuj.saxena/Student Linguistics in IIT Kharagpur is not showing in your edit tree because while deleting it was not moved to your user sub page by the move function, but by cut and paste by User:Avraham.--Raghu 12:48, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks everybody for the responses. Now my doubts No. 1, 2, 4 and 5 are cleared. Just that Doubt No. 3 is still a bit unclear. What my point was that unlike the Mainspace, the User space is not very well kept track of. So if someone keeps his/her head low, it is possible to keep a blog running in Wikipedia. Although it would be illegal, it would. Anyways, drop it. BTW, my name change request is pending for the last 5 days. Looks like Nichalp is busy. Thanks again. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 11:40, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

May be - after all there are very few to effect the change. You may again remind him - he shall nver mind. --Bhadani 11:44, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Holi Greetings

Happy Holi and NarNarayan Dev Jayanti to you to live long

Jay Swaminarayan --Raj - सनातन धर्म 23:26, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Holi Greetings to you too, my friend. --Andy123 10:58, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holi to you too, Bhadani! Have fun! User:Deepujoseph/sig
Happy holi!! Thanks for the greetings "again and again" !--Dwaipayanc 11:36, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Holi to you too. - Aksi great 11:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I knew I missed greeting somebody! I wanted to greet you before you got around to greeting me! :(
Anyway, wish you very HAPPY HOLI TO YOU!! --hydkat 12:05, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Very happy Holi to you as well. -Aabha (talk) 12:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wish you a very happy Holi!!!--Jobinbasani 12:12, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Holi. Wishing you and your family a colourful holi. Jisha C J 12:16, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wishing you a happy Holi too ! Cygnus_hansa 14:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Holi to you too Bhadani :) AreJay 14:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A very happy Holi to you as well! - Wezzo (talk) (ubx) 15:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Holi to you too! AshishGtalk 17:04, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Holi, all! Thanks for the greeting, Bhadani, I'll try and be extra-colourful today. Flowerparty 19:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Holi greetings, thanks a lot! <:-P --vineeth 04:42, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Holi!!! :) Madhav 06:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I wish u Happy holi.Sauron 08:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the wishes. Wish you a Happy Holi too.Boxerglove 12:00, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Happy Holi ;) --PlaneMad 12:59, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wish you a very happy and colourful Holi!! -Holy Ganga 16:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Rejoice and celebrate this spring with a rejuvenation of body and spirit - Happy Holi ! Adnat 20:16, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wish You a very happy holi. Yogi (talk) 21:03, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Belated Holi Greetings. :-) -- SivaKumar 06:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalization

I hate to tell you this, but the first letter of definitions are usually capitalized.[1][2][3][4] They do this so that people aren't given the wrong idea on how to spell the word. It is capitalized when it is a person or place name (i.e., a proper noun), though.--Primetime 15:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My goodness, so I will have to reverse all - I really wasted a lot of time. But, I had found anumber of entries beginning with a capital. Thank you for the information, I shall be very careful in future. --Bhadani 15:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
All done. No big deal. Have a good one.--Primetime 15:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is fine. Thanks. And, I wish you happy holi, something which no one may have wished you until now, and about which you may not have heard at all! Wikipedia has opened so many windows and so many doors. --Bhadani 15:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Holi to you too.--Primetime 15:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So my actions are now something like a fait accompli – but, we wikipedians are capable of reversing all incorrect things, and are capable of presenting correctly the correct information - may be over a period of time. --Bhadani 16:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re:Rfa

Hi Bhadaniji - in my case, there needs to be more work done. Adminship ain't a reward for good users, so I must prove my desire to work for Wikipedia. Thanks for your support. Rama's Arrow 17:20, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I do agree with you, no doubt about it. But, after all, one day, you will have to take up the responsibility. Being an admin is a part of wiki-life for editors of your standing. You may wait, but you shall never escape...--Bhadani 17:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I won't even try to escape. Rama's Arrow 18:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holi

Hey Bhadani! Sorry for the late reply. Happy Holi to you too! How about March 23? Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 17:33, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arrghh!! why not now??!!! (attitude is jus kiddin, but question is serious) Rama's Arrow 18:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Holi to you too! I live in USA so we are out of touch with festivals. This morning I was wishing my collegues, "Happy Holi!". And all of them go "Is it Holi today?". Glad to be part of the Wikipedian Indian community wishing and celebrating together. Sorry for not responding to your earlier messages. I was on a wikibreak. I had told Gurubrahma that I would wait until June before applying. Meanwhile Deeptrivia, Rama's Arrow and Saravask have my strongest support. - Ganeshk (talk) 18:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BLW

Please see Talk:Bangladesh Liberation War#Killing of intellectuals. Regards Philip Baird Shearer 23:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Holi Hai ji

Thanks for the wishes. I wish you and your family a very happy and colourful holi --Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan

Happy Holi

PURANPOLI, AAM KA ACHAR, SURAJ KI KIRAN, KHUSHIYO KI BAHAR CHAND KI CHANDNI, APNO KA PYAR, AAPKO MUBARAK HO, HOLI KA TYOHAR !

Happy Holi !!!!

Ashu|(talk) 06:11, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holi

Wish you a happy holi

Karthik.raman 06:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Insulting behaviour by User Nohat

I have asked a simple question to one user Nohat at this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_English_words_of_Tamil_origin What is your level of knowledge regarding Dravidian Languages.

He terms this as "a stupid question" (Nohat 04:52, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

My request to other administrators is to kindly tell whether the above question is vandalism. How can some one term my question as "stupid". Does an administrator in Wikipedia automatically gets rights to call others by insulting terms and also brand a question asking for academic credentials ("level of knowledge regarding Dravidian Languages") as "stupid"

To whom should we report this. What is Wikipedia and other admins going to do for such high handed behaviour. What is the solution for this.Doctor Bruno 11:44, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MY REPLY

I read some of the discussion on the talk page, which you had refereed to above. Although I am in Chennai since 1999, I do not know Tamil. As such, I am not able to comment on the matter under discussion. As regards, the use of word "stupid" was concerned, it is not permissible to use such words. However, his answer was "a stupid answer to a stupid question". In my opinion, sometimes some persons may use such words without meaning any offence - you may please keep this in view: the user of the word may have just used it without any intent to hurt. Of course, an apology would have been in order, but you can not expect each one to be so considerate - after all we are in 100s of thousands, and each one has a distinct personality and behavior pattern. As such, please continue to work with calm and composure. Let us continue to build the best encyclopedia in the world. I do agree that most reliable texts in the world may not be having any ISBN number, persons should know about the cultural divide to understand so aspects of human life. There may be a number of persons who may not be prepared to accept that there are other civilizations, cultures, and languages having older and better history and heritage other than those civilizations, cultures, and languages to who they have been exposed before they came into contact with wikipedia. This is called infatuation. I feel amazed that people may edit here without giving any reference about themselves, while they create a lot of noise about references for matters which are obvious. --Bhadani 12:08, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well Sir, you have enlightened my mind with the words "who may not be prepared to accept that there are other civilizations, cultures, and languages having older and better history and heritage other than those civilizations, cultures, and languages to who they have been exposed" This is the same problem with the ISBN. A lot of people over here do not understand that there can be books without ISBN (like the Bible example I gave). Thanks for your words and I have learnt an important point todayDoctor Bruno 18:04, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Life is like that - we have to live in the global village now, where digital divide is shrinking, but cultural divide is expanding. --Bhadani 17:07, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holi

Happy Holi, Bhadani. I am sorry I could not find time to respond to Ambuj's questions; I was trying to find the answer to one of the questions. I guess all the questions have been answered now. --Gurubrahma 13:19, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is ok - I too learnt something new. --Bhadani 13:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Your Holi greetings

Wish you too a very Happy and fun-filled Holi!!!! Rohitbd 13:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, take a good bath - you are covered with colored water. --Bhadani 13:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also wish you a happy Holi !! Siddiqui 13:56, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bhadaniji, what can I say, again you have forgotten me. But I cannot forget you, Happy Holi to you. Regards, ImpuMozhi 14:22, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Happy Holi! Rama's Arrow 14:40, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the positive comments, and Happy Holi!--Natkeeran 16:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Holi greetings to you as well (we use the name Phagwah in Trinidad). With regards to your question - I am happy to look over your contributions, but I was wondering if there was any specific aspects on which you wanted feedback. All the best. Guettarda 19:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holi to you too! Hope so you are still pink from gulal, too bad we dont get that stuff here in UK that easily... File:England flag large.png अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 07:28, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holi to you too! But we do not celebrate this festival in Singapore and I have never been covered with coloured water in my life! How sad! --Siva1979Talk to me 14:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Experience wikipedia is more colorful than the festival of color. --Bhadani 14:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! Thanks ever so much!! VivekM 02:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i am not a vandal.

You recently sent me a message saying that i vandalized an article. if you went to the talk page you would see that this was a misunderstanding. it is now commonly understood between me and everyone involved that i am not a vandal. The Speaker Of Absolute Truth 00:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to meet you - about which message you are talking about? --Bhadani 04:30, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your message

I had a very quick look through your contributions. I hope you'll forgive me for not having time to look too far back. But so far as I can see, you are doing an admirable job of living up to SlimVirgin's ideal Wikipedian standards, and your contribution has been huge. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to comment. Happy Holi to you. Grace Note 02:38, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback. --Bhadani 04:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi Bhadani

I just created an article on International who's who to add another source of verifiability of notability for the community.No sooner had I put it up,it was listed for deletion for advertising.I should value your advice.Thanks.(Vr 06:18, 16 March 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Siddiqui RfC

I've filed an RfC against Siddiqui. Please support it by endorsing the RfC at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Siddiqui

File:England flag large.png अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey 08:27, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am looking into the matter, and after due study shall surely give my comments and views. --Bhadani 09:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have posted a message on his talk page, and shall be awaiting his response. --Bhadani 18:11, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Holi

Wonderful indeed. With blessings of Holi,

--Dore chakravarty 09:19, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Sir, I salute the 85 year wikipedian, and wish to meet you in May 2006. --Bhadani 09:21, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

happy holi

Thanks for your greetings...happy holi!

SV 15:41, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As I understnad it, the Samarkand manuscript is the Uthman Quran.. wouldn't a Merge be appropriate? --Irishpunktom\talk 15:50, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Was today Holi? - Hope you had a good one! --Irishpunktom\talk 15:52, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I found that the term Samarkand manuscript was separately appearing as a redline in the page relating to Qur'an. Further, a bit of enquiry reveled the existence of Topkapi manuscript. All these the earliest manuscripts of the Holy Book, and Uthman Qur'an may refer to a number of such manuscripts. In future, the world may discover some more manuscripts. As such, in my opinion, merger is not justified – all these manuscripts are kept in different places. The world should know about them – I believe these two small stubs shall grow over a period of time. By the way, I am currently in South India where they do not celebrate Holi – all celebrations are ultimately in our hearts! --Bhadani 16:06, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The manuscripted Quran in Tashkent is Uthmans Quran. You need to ask yourself, "Why is it called the "Samarkand manuscript" when it's not kept in Samarkand?" - the answer is because it was in samarkand when Timur took it there, Samarkand being the Capital of Timurs empire. Now, add to that the links you have provided, and you see that it is the same thing. The Topkapi Manuscript is an old edition, or part thereof, of the Quran - Possibly one of the first five, but it was not the Uthman Quran taken by Ali to Baghdad, which was taken by Timur to Samarkand, which was taken by the Czar to Moscow, which was taken by Lenin to Ufa, which was then brought to Tashkent. --Irishpunktom\talk 16:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps, we may require to dig still deeper - we should continue to work on the issue: I feel that more persons should join the discussion. What do you say? Ultimately, redirection links, if required, may be created. --Bhadani 16:30, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, other people is a good idea.. how do we do that? --Irishpunktom\talk 16:35, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You may invite opinion of other members of the Guild. Moreover, other editors may also come forward to offer their comments - in wikipedia nothing can remain hidden for long - someone shall come to say something, as you came forward to give your opinion. --Bhadani 16:42, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As the Samarkand manuscript was existing for long as a red line, I thought it better to make at least a stub - then someone added an image too... so may be, we have to collect more information to decide the factual position. --Bhadani 16:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, we may discuss the matter on the talk page of Talk:Qur'an, and interested persons may join. Please also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qur%27an#According_to_Islamic_scholars --Bhadani 16:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Successful RfA

File:Saguaro2.jpg Thanks for your support on my recent RfA, which I am pleased to say passed with a final tally of 80/1/1. If you ever need any help, or if I mess something up as an admin, please let me know.

Cactus.man 20:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Vandalism"

If editing incorrect grammar to the correct grammar is considered vandalism, then I will no longer be helping out Wikipedia when I see an error... I would never vandalize anything let alone a website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.78.239.95 (talkcontribs) }

I regret. The notice was placed inadvertantly. You are most welcome - I also suggest that, if you wish, plz register. Thanks. --Bhadani 13:15, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - could you please set up an WP:FAR on Hinduism? I'm having trouble setting it up properly. Rama's Arrow 23:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would love to do this - but, the page requires a bit of attention at some places. I shall surely do this, plz give me time of few days. --Bhadani 13:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Including takes care of etc

Hi, just wanted to say thanks for trawling through all those articles getting rid of excess etceteras - I wasn't looking forward to doing it but you've saved me a headache. Again thanks and by the way belated Holi greetings. Green Giant 00:44, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your message was a tonic not a hazard – “including” takes care of “etc.” hahaha. --Bhadani 13:05, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Holi hang over

Thanks very much. I did not want to disturb you unnecessarily from your present responsibilities. Awaiting for the day of our meeting in India.

--Dore chakravarty 06:06, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am looking forward to meet you in person. --Bhadani 12:59, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Holy hay!

Nice hearing from you again. Hope you had a good holi. I will be posting some qawwali and poetry quotes about holi at: http://urdukenaam.blogspot.com in a while (tonight or tomorrow), by the way. (I think we were discussing Qawwali a while back, no?)

--iFaqeer 06:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lovely, I will read them - sometimes I have seen your "creations" there. --Bhadani 12:58, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The International Who's Who

Hi Bhadani

Thanks a lot for your comments.I await your advice.I felt this had to be included as a source of verifiability for the living subjects.All the entries in the volume(there are 20,000 of them)are strictly on merit and extensively researched.Right now the Wikipedia encourages google.I can see some problems with excessive reliance on google-there are several people with the same name and on browsing the deletion logs I noted that Wiki has not been immune to the confusion this can create-one article I note was deleted because the subject had the unfortunate coincidence of having a similar name to another with not so savoury antecedants!While this was cleared up during the debate but the intial deletion votes were counted.What I was meaning to propose was that to ascertain notability of living subjects,it might be best to find out if they merited an entry in this volume before googling whch can lead to an avalanche of information difficult to sieve at times.(Vr 07:52, 17 March 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks, this is really a contentious issue, and each case deserves to be decided on its own merit. Cheers! --Bhadani 13:00, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ranchi blocks

Copied from Phronima page:

I would invite your attention to the above. Actually, the administrative units have several villages. I think that a redirection link shall defeat the purpose of creating the stub. Do you want that a place having pupulation of 50,000 to 100,000 do not requirew an independent page here. Over a period of time, the stub shall mature. --Bhadani 15:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I would request you to please remove the redirects which you have created in respect of blocks of Ranchi district, as each block is an administrative unit with several villages, and population of around 50,000 to 100,000. Perhaps, you are not aware of the locations so you may have created the redirects - may be, you want some more contents. In any case, I will have to remove the redirects as soon as possible. --Bhadani 15:35, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I do agree with you. However, there is always scope to improve - there are several nice pages in wikipedia which have grown from a stub of one line. As regards the identical wording, the lead sentence was jsut an opening remarks. I would invite you to see the pages in this category: Category:Neighborhoods of Karachi. The wording is identical, but some pages have grown beautifully. Moreover, there are several 1000s of stubs of few words, and sentences in wikipedia, which await expansion of contents. Anyway, it is ok for the time being. --Bhadani 15:43, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I am not going to un-do the redirects right now - I will come back with stubs of few paragraphs, as each administrative block has its own geography, culture, and history. --Bhadani 15:46, 17 March 2006 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Phronima"

His replies:

The trouble was that the articles contained no information that isn't provided by the list (they were so identical to each other that in four or five cases at least, the name in the article didn't match the title). If there's more to be said that won't fit into the list, then individual article can be made, but I don't see the point till then. --Phronima 15:36, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't undo the redirects; I made them in order to avoid putting the articles up for deletion. The number of inhabitants is irrelevant -- if there isn't anything useful to be said about them, then we don't need articles on each one. Again, the list does everything that the articles does, with much less repetition. --Phronima 15:40, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry not to have replied sooner; in the vacation I don't get in to college very often, and this is the first time for nearly a week. (I'm a "her", by the way.) Certainly, if there is enough material to make an article for any of these blocks, they should become articles. My feeling was, though, that between articles on important villages and towns in the region and articles on the region itself, there wasn't really a need for articles on the middle-sized units. --Phronima 16:59, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thankyou very much for telling me about RFC. I will be reviewing all the neighborhoods of Karachi and I have seen your edits. Most of the articles were just stubs. Many things have to be changed and updated.

Siddiqui 17:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is all right - I am telling about the Karachi neighborhoods - over a period of time, the pages should mature with pictures, and more information. --Bhadani 17:05, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gyanameva Jayate? NPOV Jayate?

Hi Bhadaniji - increasingly I am viewing Wikipedia as a satyagraha on behalf of knowledge. We must endure many hardships and defeats, but the victory is sweet and inevitable.

I wonder if its a good idea for Portal:India, or Indian Wikipedians in general to adopt the motto "Gyanameva Jayate," just as "Satyameva Jayate" is our national motto? Rama's Arrow 17:39, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes, I do get frustrated to find that there is a crusade against knowledge here. I do endorse the spirit of your motto, Gyanameva Jayate (that is, let there be victory for knowledge), yet I feel that right now we must continue our efforts to build the Project in the truest wiki-tradition. --Bhadani 17:46, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
On a more lighter note, shouldn't it be Gyanameva Jayati as Satyameva Jayate has been shown to be an incorrect sanskrit phrase. I was also wondering whether to add this info on this page. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:58, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot my dear Ambuj. However, for the time being let us continue to work without getting perturbed. --Bhadani 10:19, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
With the way, things are going around with India-related articles, I'd rather have NPOV-Jayate, than anything else. *wink --Andy123 12:09, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
History can be re-written sometimes, but it can not be changed. Ultimately the truth comes out - Joseph Goebbels could not help Hitler. We wikipedians shall build the Project in am impartial way. --Bhadani 12:14, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check the discussion page on Ahmedabad

I have made an edit at the bottom of the page. Please read it. I am sending a similar message to Aksi great. Thank you. --Andy123 12:08, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for removing the "redunant spaces" on my page. I think you are online right now? Do you use Google Talk? My id is anirudhsbh at gmail dot com. Alternatively my Yahoo! id is anirudhbhati. Please do contact me, I am getting online in a jiffy. --Andy123 12:13, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Great, I shall call you on yahoo messenger - in minutes. --Bhadani 12:16, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I will not be able to receive any calls on Yahoo! messenger, as it is, I am using the messenger illegally from the hostel premises. I am using a proxy switch software for the purpose. This software, though does provide me with the option of chatting through the IM Window, but will not allow me to connect to the voice server. Ok, I got your message in time, just as I was going to put this message. If your messenger was not working, you could try out Meebo service. It is really cool. Half of the people in our college use this facility to avoid the firewall *wink. I am online through out the day. The internet facilities provided in my hostel at the Gujarat National Law University are 24/7 @ 512 kbps (which is shared between 320 students, of which 20-30 are online at one time). I am able to derieve reasonable speeds with that. And there are not many people who, like me, use the internet extensively throughout the day. --Andy123 12:31, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I am online throughout the day. --Andy123 12:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I will try with gmail talk. Will that be ok? --Bhadani 12:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I said that I would be online throughout the day. I should have put up a *conditions apply tag there. :( The Internet facilities in our University are provided through Wireless connections. There are accesspoints everywhere. Now if one of the switches goes phut! the whole network goes with it. I got offline, and then felt that, I'd rather sleep than waste my time weeping over the spilt soup. --Andy123 16:01, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that! and, what's your Gmail id, btw? --Andy123 16:03, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is my pleasure - right now, I am sending you an e-mail. And, by the way, when I was a student of Patna Law College (Patna University, we used to weep over split-milk - now people weep over split-soup - but wikipedia will always remain un-split.
Just sent you an e-mail - also got your message from google talk. In case, you are there that is fine - or we shall fix some other time. --Bhadani 16:12, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great talking with you right now - you are the second wikipedian with whom I have chatted. --Bhadani 16:14, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The chat through Google ended jsut now and I wish him a wiki-good night. --Bhadani 16:46, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I felt great! We talked about ourselves as also about wikipedia. --Bhadani 16:47, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for all your concerns. I equally enjoyed talking to you. I can't wait till I see you on IRC --Andy123(talk) 16:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Sorry for the delay. And thanks very much for your greeting message. Vaikunda Raja 19:29, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My RFA

Smurrayinchester's RFA

Thank you, Bhadani
Thank you! for voting in my RFA. It passed with a result of 100/1/0. Thanks for your vote! If you have any comments, please say so here. Thank you!

To India

For your information.I will be in India (Chennai) between 30th April and end July. Hope to meet you.

--Dore chakravarty 01:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I shall be here only, and would surely meet me - in case, you e-mail me your contact information. I am looking forward to meet you, Sir. --Bhadani 07:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Visit India

Sir, Thanks. How wonderful it would be. Definitely I will make it up.

--Dore chakravarty 07:24, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Sir, but your are my Sir. --Bhadani 07:25, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Bhadaniji, Dore-avaru has not defined an e-mail ID on WP. Are you otherwise in e-mail touch with him? If so, can you privately WP-mail to me his number after you get it? And -- ahem -- maybe your own as well. Regards, ImpuMozhi 14:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the information. I have never sent him any e-mail, and I do not know his e-mail ID. I shall request him from time to time to give his contact number to me on a particular e-mail ID of mine or I shall send him an e-mail, if he gives me one. I will somehow try to make contact with him. Thanks. --Bhadani 14:07, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your greetings

Greetings back! Just pointing out to you that to link to a category or image without place an image/a page in a category use a [[:]] ahead of the category, as such:

[[:Category:

NSLE (T+C) at 07:43 UTC (2006-03-20)

Thank you - I was not aware of this few weeks before, however, I have now started doing this. --Bhadani 07:45, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your holi greetings !!! I was out on tour to respond you. burdak 10:58, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is fine, I am sure that you enjoyed the vacation. --Bhadani 11:02, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A totally unimportant milestone

Warning: A user's edit count does not reflect on the value of their contributions to Wikipedia Congratulations on your edit count man, that is sooooo cool. Warning: A user's edit count does not reflect on the value of their contributions to Wikipedia
You da man :-) NoSeptember talk 15:47, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your kind attention. Edit counts constitute just a small part of our wiki-life, we as wikipedians have a long way to go together to build the best encyclopedia. --Bhadani 16:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How about a fews gems from me (though more likely they would seem PJs to you)..
  • Guns don't kill Wikipedians, Edit counts do.
  • Edits don't count.
Anyway, just as everyday is important, but birthdays are special, congratulations on your anniversary. Will see you again on your real Wiki-anniversary. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:22, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats!!!!!!! deeptrivia (talk) 17:29, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Bhadaniji, a small question about Bihar. AFIK, the Kshatriyas there do not call themselves "Rajput", do they? They are normally called 'Thakur', right? Exactly what is the colloquial caste-affiliation of the word "Bhumihar"? It would be nice if you could let me know what is the perception on the ground. Regards, ImpuMozhi 17:53, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Partly a difficult question to answer. Kshatriyas call themselves Rajputs in Bihar - yes you are right, they also call themselves as Thakurs. As regards Bhumihars, they are generally considered as belonmging to higher group of castes, normally at par with Brahmins and Rajputs - though exact classification in Varna system for them is difficult, they consider themselves as part of Brahmins, and use a number of surnames used by Brahmins of Bihar. This debate continues - as you shall find in Bhumihar page/ talk in wikipedia. --Bhadani 15:32, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Bhadaniji. I am seeing the answer just now. Do you have a policy of not answering on other pages? I think not, since I have a couple of comments by you on your talk-page. Thank you for the info. ImpuMozhi 12:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Help Request

Bhadani, Can you help me by bringing to my knowledge any users able to translate Ayyavazhi article to hindi or any other Indian Languages? - A humble request if you don't feel difficult. -Vaikunda Raja 18:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can do that - Hindi is my mother toungue. But, typing it shall be a problem. In case, you so wish, I can tranlate it, then get it typed by someone in my Office, and send the scanned file by way of an e-mail attachment. --Bhadani 15:16, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Like several other departments of the Government of India/ Public Sector Banks, We have a separate department in our Office, just doing the work in Hindi. I can surely get a volunteer, and get it typed on a Hindi word-processor. Currently, I am located in Chennai. --Bhadani 15:24, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bhadani, I can't understand. Please put them (your reply) in simple words. And, What office? I was asking to provide the translated Ayyavazhi article of English wikipedia in Hindi Wikipedia. i don't know Hindi and why you told "typing it shall be a problem" ? - Vaikunda Raja 17:41, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see here the undeveloped Ayyavazhi artcle in Hindi Wikipedia - Vaikunda Raja 17:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the wishes....

Hey,

Thanks for the holi greetings you left on my talk page.... Wish you had a great holi this time...

thanks again..

This is Tanul | Wanna Talk 07:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Request help...

Greetings. On 21st March, the Kothagattu Venkata RavindraNath page was created. This looks like a user page, since the username of the page creator is made up of the initials of the page title (i.e., Kvrnath). So I tried to contact the user to ask him/her if this is so, but he is yet to create his userpage. Now how do I contact him? This page might need to be deleted.The Silent Contributor 09:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well thanks!! Your help is not required now, since someone else did the required work!! Cheers!!The Silent Contributor 09:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks!

Hi Bhadani! Thank you for supporting my RfA. It passed at 105/1/0, putting me in WP:100 - I'm delighted and surprised! I'm always happy to help out, so if you need anything, please drop me a line. Cheers! ➨ REDVERS 20:30, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and Greetings

Adaab.....Welcome to Wikipedia--Sheikhu 04:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted vandalism in Hinduism in Pakistan page to previous version. I did not make any changes. Siddiqui 16:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats!

Hey Bhadani. Sorry for the late response. I had classes all morning. Congrats on your first wiki-anniversary! I'll get the RfA rolling. Thanks a lot for your support. deeptrivia (talk) 17:40, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Hello

It really doesn't matter and I don't mind either way, but I left it out on purpose because I was the first person to leave a message on the user's page, and I left a message right below the welcome template. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 21:59, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Wiki-Birthday!

Happy First Wiki-Birthday, from the Yellow-looking Green Giant. Congratulations on passing 20,000 edits, Wiki-Nerd. I would highly recommend you take the Wikiholics Test :P Green Giant 01:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bhadani, I am here as promised. Believe you already know what I have to say, so won't waste time on that. :D -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 04:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

KrishnaTemple.jpg

Please see this picture:

Krishnajanmabhoomi temple??


on the Krishnajanmabhoomi page. Unless from an angle I don't recognize, I don't think it's the Krishnajanmabhoomi temple. Do you?


bright

also please see this file .I tried to color correct your nice picture.

original

--Nemonoman 21:44, 23 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

And a hello to you too! Boy, Surya has an interesting edit history. I created the article and edited it a few times in October of 2002, then nothing for most of a year and one anon edit, then nothing for most of a year, and then all of a sudden... And now there's fifteen edits in the month of February alone (by ten people, -2 for a vandal and reverter)... Anyway, thanks for saying hi Tuf-Kat 00:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bhadani

Hi Bhadani, thanks for Holi Greetings. Belated wishes for Holi to you too. I was away from this Wikipedia for a long time. Why, yes, I've always enjoyed Holi with my friends. This year too we played Holi with colours and water. Actually, since the time I've shifted to Mumbai back in 1996, I've played Holi every year. Earlier, when we used to stay at Malvan, there wasn't that much celebration with hard colours. Although, we used to go to the place of the Koli (ie. fisherman in Marathi) community, where they lit the Holi bonfire. I still remember that was quite different from the one in Mumbai. -- Mohammed Malvankar 07:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]