Talk:ThunderCats (1985 TV series)/Archive 1

How cool were the Tundercats? wow! Selphie 14:45, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

It is truly a travesty that this page lacks any mention of the Robear Berbils.

How did the Thundercats intend to repopulate the planet with other thundercats wen there was only 1 female? Not very good planning. Chris H - UK.

Same goes for the Smurfs, really. Good lord! I theorize that some of the others (Smurfs, not Thundercats) were less-obvious females..

Actually, there are two females, Wily-kit is also female. Of course, she's also a little young ;) --Wilykit 15:15, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

--- Hey, one of the greatest cartoon series I have ever seen.

Jorge, Mar del Plata,Argentina

Original airings

Where did the series originally air in their respective countries? Timeslots? I mainly ask because the guitar in the theme song sounds very similar to guitars used on CBS Storybreak. Coincidence?

Profanity

Is it really necessary to have a strong profanity in this article? I replaced the word with f**k but this was reverted back. It's as if someone has gone out of their way to put a swear-word on this article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Marky1981 (talk • contribs) 23:03, 26 February 2005 (UTC)

I've removed the reference that contained this profanity. Parodies on the internet that dub new dialog over the actual clips are not "Outtakes", and have nothing to do with the actual series. MrItty 17:14, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Actually, Larry Kenney, the voice of Lion-O and Jackalman (among other characters), has gone on record as stating the "Outtakes" from Thundercats are, in fact, real. It's even confirmed in Matt Blank's interview.DrachenFyre 23:52, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

Whether the outtakes are real or not is besides the point - i.e it is unnecessary and irresponsible for a credible encyclopedia article to have strong (or any) profanity. The only exceptions to this would be articles about the etymology of such words for example, and then it should be objective and NPOV. This is clearly not the case for the ThunderCats article! Marky1981 09:14, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hmm. Very well then. DrachenFyre 14:32, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

If this comes up again, here's wikipedia's policy on profanity.--Starwed 18:32, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Contrary to what Marky has said it would also be acceptable to give examples of profanity in popular culture where it is well known. A show such as South Park features heavy use of profanity and as such the article would be incomplete without examples and discussion on it. Its a little cloudy here but wiki is not censored for minors so theres nothing wrong with discussing profanity in a childrens cartoon but wiki is not out to offend so profanity should not be used unecessarily. I would not object to one quote of a profanity while discussing the outtakes here as i consider it important to that discussion, although I wont push for it as its not overly important to the article as a whole.

Does anyone know if the outtakes are subject to copyright? If not I'd like to link to them its a better solution than having them written on the page.

Heres the best summary of the history of the outtakes i found: http://claws2.nfshost.com/node/254 Discordance 19:02, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Third Earth = our Earth?

Has Third Earth been confimed officially that it is our Earth (in the future)? If not, we should either delete "(which is our own planet earth in a distant future)" or change it to something like "(which is speculated to be planet Earth in a distant future)" Marky1981 11:34, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I really dont know, you should go ahead and do it. Jack Cain

Aside from Egyptian architecture (like Mumm-Ra's and Mumm-Rana's pyramids with obelisks), the specific mentioning of "Egyptian" by Mumm-Ra himself in episode "Pumm-Ra", the Egyptian hieroglyphs, Wizz-Ra (and his Egyptian helmet), Hachiman and the code of Bushido, the legend of King Arthur and the appearance of Merlin, and the Berzerkers (just to name a few), all evidence points to Third Earth actually being a future Earth. Obviously, there must have been not one but TWO cataclysmic events in the planet's past which forces it through two "ages"... DrachenFyre 22:52, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

I've modified the line accordingly - feel free to modify Marky1981 23:59, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This guy sure knows his cartoons.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.57.160.130 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

The ThunderCats ship also passes jupiter on its way into the system in the first episode, you can clearly see the eye of jupiter on the planet. Then there is a shot of a red planet with earth in the distance. Less convincing than DrachenFyres evidence but another example nonetheless Discordance 18:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

first episode

I recently saw the first episode of thundercats again and it never mentions that lion-o's pod malfunctioned.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Duokenshin (talk • contribs) 20:21, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

However, it is generally accepted by the fanbase that his pod malfunctioned. How else could he have aged so rapidly yet none of the other ThunderCats did? - DrachenFyre 20:36, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

i jus saw it too, and the explanation given there is not that it malfunctioned, but that ageing did occured on the pods.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.113.116.135 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

the exact quote from jaga is "although the suspension capsules slow down the aging process some aging does take place", he may be saying the capsules arnt 100% reliable and are pronce to malfunctions, in episode 82 they are disposing of the capsules because they are dangerous. Later in the second episode tygra says Lion-O spent 10 years in suspension, considering he appears to have grown from a youth to a young adult this implies the pods completely failed to have any effect on Lion-Os aging. This makes it fairly clear that the pod has in some way malfunctioned. Discordance 18:20, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Seasons?

I know there are webpages out there that say Season 2 was 1986-7, but I remember when seeing the episodes air a few years ago (2001 to be precise), the copyright date at the end of some of them was 1987 and for others 1988. I remember seeing somewhere that Thundercats went into a 1 season hiatus for the 1986-7 season while 65 episodes of the cartoon series Silverhawks were aired (a show which featured some of the same voice actors as Thundercats). The only Thundercats episode/s produced in that span was Thundercats! Ho!, a 5-parter which introduced the 3 other Thundercats. That may have been first released as a video before being broken up into episodes for syndication.

Episodes with 1987 in their credits span from "Mumm-Ra Lives! Part I" to "Vultureman's Revenge". Episodes with 1988 in their credits span from "Thundercubs Part I" to "The Book of Omens". I've seen some sources say from "Return to Thundera Part I" to "The Book of Omens" were aired in the 1989-1990 season. I'm not sure what that is about, though it might be possible they filled their remaining episode order in terms of production in 1988 and just held half the episodes over to make another season out of the episodes made (A 5th season of Futurama aired even though there were only 4 seasons of production. That "season" was made from several unaired episodes from previous seasons).

By the way, a lot of webpages out there operate on certain assumptions with cartoon series. They assume 65 episodes will be aired 5 episodes a week for 13 weeks without any mistakes in airing or delays in production of some episodes. These cannot be considered reliable because we don't know if the webpages actually confirmed the airdates or just looked for the first Monday of September and started counting off air dates from there on out. What I'm saying is we don't know for sure if the episode airdate list is correct and has been generated by looking at actual data or if it is just a theoretical list of when episodes most likely aired. In the case of Thundercats, it is known to be false.

And many series have 65 episode orders but don't air all 65 episodes over a single season. Transformers for example, aired 16 episodes in Season 1 and 49 episodes in Season 2 (16 + 49= 65) and G.I. Joe produced two 5 episode mini series in 1983 & 1984 before getting a first season and that season had 55 episodes (50 if you count the 1985 Mini-Series as separate from the 1985-6 Season).

I would ask for the 1986-7 data to be confirmed. If it cannot be, then the wiki page should state the lack of certainty regarding when the second half of the series aired. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.67.201.239 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I recently split the episode guide into 4 seasons and then back into 2 based on various information I found on the internet, although I would question the air dates I have put on the page now. Here is a scan of a script cover for episode 123: http://www.purrsiathunder.org/graphix/scripts/script123/Scan0002.jpg Labeled August 10th 1988... So i doubt it could have aired November 28th 1986 like my other source states. I'm at a loss of how to reliable find the correct dates. Discordance 19:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

From the script covers ive found season 2 seems to have been written by february 1987, season 3 febraury 1988 and season 4 august 1988, probably being shown 1987-88, 1988-89, and 1989-90 which are the rough dates I got from here http://tcats.shipunderground.com/episode.html

Perhaps I should self revert back to [1] Discordance 19:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

New series?

I have heard a bunch of rumors about a new Thundercats series being developed for Toonami? Does anybody know if this is true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.101.81.251 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I haven't heard anything. Can you provide sources where you heard this? - Seinfreak37 16:56, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit: Found a mention on a fan-forum, still no source provided however: "Warner Bros. Animation is working on a new Thundercats series. The initial info says they are planning for a late 2006 release but that probably will be pushed back. Yes a T-Cats revival it's not all that surprising given TMNT, Transformers, He-Man and GI-Joe all have had revivals within the past 5 years and only more revivals will be on the way it seems." -Seinfreak37 16:59, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Natives of Third Earth

This section needs expanding, I dont have time to do it right now, but mafetet appears briefly for one episode and gets half the section, whereas the warrior women havnt even been mentioned, their queen and another warrior woman are among the major supporting characters in the series. Discordance 11:12, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Bengali and Tygra...brothers?

I recall in Part 5 of Thundercats Ho! The Movie, Tygra grasps Bengali's hand and shoulder, saying "Brother". Now, after that, it was NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN during the remainder of the run of the show. I don't believe that it was ever intended to have Tygra and Bengali as "brothers" in the blood sense. Rather, it was probably meant to mean Tygra and Bengali as "brothers" in the sense of being from the same "tiger clan", for lack of a better term. I reiterate...it was NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN in the show. Does that constitute them being blood brothers or clan brothers? - The One and Only 23:51, 26 March 2006 (UTC)