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    November 3

    Cleveland State University Poetry Center page

    Hello,

    This is a minor issue, but I'm misidentified as a hobbit on Wikipedia, and I'm hoping this problem can be resolved.

    On the Cleveland State University Poetry Center page on Wikipedia, my name, Lily Brown, is listed under "Recent or Forthcoming Publications," and when you click on my name, you get sent to a page about hobbits. I'd appreciate it if someone could just fix the link.

    Here's evidence: http://www.csuohio.edu/poetrycenter/AuthorBook/Brown.html

    Thanks! Lily Brown — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brightobvious (talk • contribs) 00:46, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I went ahead and removed the link. Is there a more appropriate Wikipedia page to link to, or should it link to nothing? SierraSciSPA (talk) 00:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing English spellings to other English Spellings

    With all due respect to international variations in the spelling of certain English words such as replacing a Z with in an S in some words such as specialisation instead of specialization, I do not understand why I received a message indicating that it is not okay to change it from one spelling to another. They are both equally valid spellings and I do not really see how it is disrespectful if it is an international topic, such as medicine, to change it from one spelling to another, especially when wikipedia's own spell check does not recognize the international versions of the word spelled with an S in this case to be legitimate words. That being said, if it truly is against wikipedia policy, I will no longer make such edits though I maintain that they are legitimate edits and people in countries that use alternative spellings can change it back if they wish. Can you explain this more clearly? Thank you. Sincerely, DoctorK88

    What you're looking for is WP:ENGVAR. Dismas|(talk) 02:18, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    This does not address the inconsistency mentioned above about Wikipedia's spelling/editing tool not recognizing international but valid spellings of these words as correct. Wikipedia's spell check is misleading because of this inconsistency making it appear that Wikipedia prefers the American spelling of the word over British, Canadian, Australian, etc. spellings of the word. And again, if one spelling is not preferred over the other, why is it a problem to change it? Sincerely, DoctorK88

    I don't think Wikipedia has a spelling/editing tool. My guess is that your browser is set to spellcheck in American English. --FormerIP (talk) 02:32, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    When asked by wikipedia if you have made a minor or major edit and someone describes the edit they have made to the page, wikipedia underlines these alternate spellings of the word in red much the way a program such as Microsoft Word underlines a word it does not recognize as legitimate (even if it is legitimate). That is what I am saying. That very well could be true of my browser too though I do not know. Sincerely, DoctorK88

    I think it's your browser, not Wikipedia, that is doing the underlining. (Wikipaedia, I should say). --FormerIP (talk) 02:39, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia does not have a spell check built in. Any spell checking that you are seeing is done by your browser. GB fan 02:41, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Right. See Wikipedia:Spellchecking. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:45, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry. I thought you were more concerned with the policy rather than the spellchecking. And yes, that's your browser. Dismas|(talk) 03:03, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Doctor, if I'm reading it right, the issue relates to this message on your talk page. If there's any article where you wish to change the English usage, and you face resistance from other editors, it is better to take the discussion up on the article's talk page and attempt to reach consensus with other editors on what could be the appropriate variation of English that could be used. Does that answer your initial query? Best. Wifione Message 06:03, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • You ask, “if one spelling is not preferred over the other, why is it a problem to change it?” The answer is that what is preferred is consistent spelling within an article; so that ideally the spelling would be like all British or all American. Also we don’t want people edit warring over spelling. —teb728 t c 08:01, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • teb728 is correct. Please see WP:RETAIN. Kierzek (talk) 18:08, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Just a quick question

    This is just a quick question - I do not what did happen just now, but you might be able to identify what happened! I have an icon on my PC that I can press to log onto Wikipedia, and I did that just now (I normally use Google Chrome as my web browser). Normally, when I do this, I get "You are now logged in to Wikipedia" and all is OK. However, when I did it just now, I got a message "You are now logged out". Fortunately, when I clicked on the Google Chrome icon, I managed to stay logged in to Wikipedia, but I just wonder whether any one could identify what happened that led me to get the message "You are now logged out". Thank you in advance for any help that you can give, ACEOREVIVED (talk) 09:12, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    What URL does that icon take you to? -- John of Reading (talk) 09:59, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You need to provide a bit more details. What is this icon? Is it a shortcut to Special:UserLogin? How did you get or generate the icon? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:11, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]


    Yes, you are right, the icon is a shortcut to Special: Userlogin. I cannot remember now how I managed to get in on the screen of my laptop - I guess I must just have dowloaded it when I was on the Internet. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 11:09, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Things do seem to be working out OK for me now - when I press on the icon now, I do not seem to be getting "You are now logged off". I should say that I hope (and expect) that it was just a one-off incident - most of the time, when I click on that icon, I get into Wikipedia successfully with message about successfully logging in. I can get back to you if I have any more problems of this nature, but as I say, I am reasonably confident that this was just the odd one-off incident. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:29, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    S. Thaman

    S. Thaman

    This Movie is not listed under his filmography ??

    Mundhinam Paartheney

    D :D :D :D :D :D ., Shame on wikipedia !!

    ~Sarandepp [details removed] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.251.101.2 (talk) 09:36, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    (I have removed your email address to protect your privacy) Wikipedia is the work of many volunteer editors. If information is missing, that just means that no one has got round to it yet - it's not a cause for shame. If you have a reliable source to confirm the link between this musician and this film, then I suggest you be bold and edit the articles yourself. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:54, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing

    hi I have noticed on a page that some funny person has written the mayors name with fukwit as middle name. This is rude slang that is used to disrespect the person and put him down. I would like to delete that, but I can't seem to be able to change the governor's name on the page. So how do I do that please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.42.170.177 (talk) 10:28, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for pointing that out. I reverted the vandalism in Jieh. I did it by finding the edit that insert the nonsense in the history and clicking on "undo". —teb728 t c 10:43, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    More specifically I clicked on "Show history" on the article. Then I clicked on "prev" on the line for 125.255.23.237 (now the third line); that gave me this difference listing. I could see from the differences that this was the offending edit; so I clicked on "undo" on the right side. —teb728 t c 10:54, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    See more at Help:Reverting and Wikipedia:Vandalism. You can also edit the lead section by clicking the "Edit" tab at top of the page, but in case of vandalism it's better to check the page history because the vandal may have done other things. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:13, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The Statement of Randolph Carter

    Hello, I am trying to get a pdf version of Lovecraft's story entitled, "The Statement of Randolph Carter." It's in public domain, I can get a printable version, and it appears on my screen in text, but it will not download as a PDF. Am I doing something wrong? Ggiersch (talk) 13:08, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. We don't put texts of stories in Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:33, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You may also want to ask at the computing reference desk, as they might be able to assist you with the printing issue. TNXMan 13:55, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    If you were trying to create a pdf version from Wikisource:The Statement of Randolph Carter at our sister project, I initially had the same problem, but I was able to create a semi-usable pdf from Wikisource:Index:Avon Fantasy Reader 10.djvu pp 53-58, rendered as a book, but that maintained the page divisions of the original. I put in a request at Wikisource:Wikisource:Requests for assistance#Rendering a page in pdf, asking if there is a better way. —teb728 t c 22:37, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    One helper at Wikisource replied that this is a bug known for two years. Another suggested pasting the story to MS Word and saving it as PDF. —teb728 t c 04:39, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Eslicarbazepine acetate origin and duplication

    Hi there, I have recently been assigned a task for a client at work to create an article on their behalf focusing on Eslicarbazepine acetate (Zebinix). However, it seems there is already a page with content (but not up-to-date or inclusive of clinical/scientific references). How do I now go about creating the page requested by my client? Do we have to try and contact the originator (is this possible?) What would you suggest we now do considering the request we have had to ensure the page is totally relevant and accurate? Many thanks in advance for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.83.201.10 (talk) 13:53, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    For reference: Eslicarbazepine acetate.
    Step one is to take a few minutes and look at our conflict of interest policies, and then head over to read our neutral point of view policy. You will not be allowed to create a promotional page for Zebinix. That said, well-sourced and neutral information is welcome - and, to avoid all appearance of a conflict of interest, you might consider posting it on the article's talk page. If you put the sources and information there, I can help with putting it into the article. There's no need to go to the original editors of that article, but - if they're active - you might call on them to assist in updating what's already there. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 14:08, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Moving essay into WP namespace

    I want to move an essay I have created in my userspace into Wikipedia namespace. The target for the move is Wikipedia:Gallery. Am I allowed to move it there? The essay is User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Wikipedia:Gallery. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 15:41, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I wouldn't if I were you, because that redirect is a long-standing one, which has been used in the past to link to various gallery-related items and now links to the appropriate part of the Wikipedia:Image use policy (see Special:Whatlinkshere/Wikipedia:Gallery). Shifting an essay on top of it risks confusion. Far better to choose a new name for your essay. BencherliteTalk 16:04, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, thanks. Can I have some input on what would be a good name for the essay?
    Is there another good possibility that I missed? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:35, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes: keep it in your userspace? Category:User essays says "An essay here may be moved categorically into the Wikipedia namespace, Category:Wikipedia essays, if it is frequently referenced, as evidenced by becoming an evolving expression of multiple editors." Your essay is less than 24 hours old and is not yet frequently referenced. Try adding the essay to the "see also" sections of related pages, or mentioning it on their talk pages, to see what happens. BencherliteTalk 16:49, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:ESSAYS (which is the governing policy in this case) says: "Essays that the author does not want others to edit, or that are found to contradict widespread consensus, belong in the user namespace." I neither have the intention to disallow others from editing the essay, nor do I think this essay contradicts widespread consensus. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:00, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Fine, do what you want. How about Wikipedia:Suggestions for gallery pages? It's only your new essay, after all, not a guideline or policy, and it might be an idea to avoid too "official" a title. BencherliteTalk 17:07, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Done as you suggested. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 17:25, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Correct Name

    My name at the top of the page which is about me is incorrect...It says my name is leslie craig wilkinson ,it is Peter wilkinson..would it be possible to change it to the correct name please.

    Regards,

    pete wilkinson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petewilkinson (talk • contribs) 19:26, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm assuming you're referring to Peter Wilkinson (musician)? UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 19:37, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikiblame shows that the birth name was inserted here, in February 2008. No source is indicated. The name went from Leslie Wilkinson to Leslie Craig Wilkinson here, in November 2008. Again, no source is apparent - and, from what I can see, every source that seems to confirm the Leslie Craig Wilkinson name is actually a mirror of Wikipedia. Unless someone objects, I'm going to remove the birth name per WP:BOLD. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 19:47, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
     Done. On second thought, this is a WP:BLP - so, per WP:BOLD, I've removed the birth name. Thanks for pointing that out. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 19:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    David Burton-Richardson

    i have added the ref www.saatchionline.com regarding this article. that is a verifiable source. so hopefully no deletion.

    thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Junieaaabbb (talk • contribs) 21:41, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Do you have a question? As that is what the help desk is for. CTJF83 22:01, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    That link verifies nothing about David Burton-Richardson. So it doesn't provide "at least one reference" for a biography of a living person. —teb728 t c 22:52, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Junieaaabbb, I have already answered your previous question about this article on WP:New contributors' help page/questions, explaining why your previous generic links were inadequate and providing a number of links to pages which explain the policies. Please read them, and if you don't understand what the policies mean, ask here. Making wild attempts to meet policies you have not understood is a waste of your time and everybody else's. --ColinFine (talk) 23:48, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Junieaaabbb, you wrote he has received "press, magazine and TV coverage". If that is so, cite the articles where he was covered—don't cite the journals; cite the specific articles. —teb728 t c 04:27, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Problem with reflist

    Can someone modify the {{reflist}} tag so it displays all of ref 10 in the left column, and refs 11 and onward in the right column? Thanks. HurricaneFan25 | talk 23:24, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    If you are talking about, Hurricane Cindy (1959), it looks like you have it fixed. GB fan 23:39, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Nope, doesn't look like that for me. HurricaneFan25 | talk 23:43, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I guess it is browser specific. It displays in 2 columns on Google Chrome and Firefox but one column on Internet Explorer. What browser are you using? GB fan 00:35, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Firefox 3 on a MacBook Air, 1200 x 800 resolution. HurricaneFan25 | talk 00:36, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Don't know. It looks right on Firefox 8 Windows 7 and 1366x768. GB fan 00:48, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Works okay on Safari on MacOSX. The last few words of ref 10 are in the right column but there are two columns. Dismas|(talk) 02:12, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Per the reflist documentation: "The use of columns can result in widows and orphans, where a citation at the bottom of a column may be split to the top of the next column. There are CSS3 selectors that could resolve this, but they are not yet supported by any major browsers." ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 09:03, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    November 4

    Multilingual support

    I recently backed up my hard drive, wiped it, and rebulit it. Apparently, Memeo did not save my multilingual support packs. I went to the Wikipedia page Help: Multilingual Support (East Asian) and installed everything there. This was days ago, and I turn off my computer when I'm done with it, so I don't know why I'm still seeing boxes instead of characters. Greek and Cyrillic are fine, however. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 00:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    They might be able to help you at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. RJFJR (talk) 02:46, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Or at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). --Philosopher Let us reason together. 09:43, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Huh, my browsers all have East Asian fonts by default (for Japanese, I have MS Mincho). Though if it's an older hard drive, you might need Something different; the above linked places can probably help you. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 11:34, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Porno on the page for Narcissism

    Very Important

    The article on Narcissism at the bottom of the page titled 'Narcissism Personality Disorder All about Personality disorder Treatment' When you click on it, it will show many people having oral sex.

    I really wanted to read this article.

    You don't make it easy to contact you, encase of this kind of problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.80.117.16 (talk) 02:27, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I have removed the inappropriate link. Thanks for reporting it. Goodvac (talk) 02:36, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Why can't I edit this page?

    As a registered user (on Wikimedia Meta-Wiki), why can't I edit this page? I can edit most other pages on Wikimedia Meta-Wiki (but I am not yet autoconfirmed there - if that applies on Wikimedia Meta-Wiki). --Mortense (talk) 09:28, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Questions about Meta should really be directed to the folks at Meta - try m:Meta:Babel. FYI, you can link to a page on Meta by putting m: in front of the link, as in m:User:Mortense. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 09:40, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the "m:" tip (and the answer; the question is now at Babel). I applied the tip to the question.--Mortense (talk) 11:16, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    The page is semi-protected, which by definition prevents unregistered and not yet autoconfirmed users from editing. Since you know you're not yet autoconfirmed there, there's your answer.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:43, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    getting an error page when searching for israel

    search israel keyword , put it in the search box on the top of any wikipedia page. we get an error page.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.223.163.5 (talk) 11:39, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    No such problem for me. What does the error page say, and url appears in your browser's address bar when you get the error page? - David Biddulph (talk) 11:43, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Looking for an "Advice for expert editors" page

    I once read a page (It was most probably an essay) that gave advice to editors that are experts on a particular topic on how to approach editing such articles and co-operating with non-expert fellow editors. I'm currently involved in a bit of an argument with a subject expert who is treating other editors as "ignorant uneducated amateurs" so it would really help if I could point him to the advice page/essay. Roger (talk) 12:38, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Might be Wikipedia editing for research scientists? Otherwise, WP:EXPERT has some good advice. Yunshui 雲水 12:41, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! That is exactly what I'm looking for. Roger (talk) 14:24, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Picture Problems

    Hey. I was recently trying to upload a picture for the article Gloomy Sunday, but encountered some problems in regards to size and positioning. This is a good time to say that I am a new contributer to Wikipedia and honestly not to much of a computer whizz. Can someone fix this? Or perhaps tell me what i did wrong so that i can fix it myself. This would be appreciated :) Trollyboy (talk) 13:11, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

     Done. The trick is that, for one image, you don't need to make it a gallery. Just link it as you would anything else and then add "|thumb" to make it a thumbnail. You can then add "|200px" or whatever to resize it, and "|left" to force it to the left margin. The caption is fine, you did that just right. Best, UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 13:29, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Cheers! XD Trollyboy (talk) 14:05, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    An addition has been Removed

    I recently added a short sentence in the Dogs of War page under the gaming section. It involved an external link to a site which is the home of an xbox 360 gaming community so was very much on topic, I want to understand why it was removed. I've looked at why its a possibility it could be removed in the help section but I don't really see how it fits into any of those categories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.82.11 (talk) 13:53, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Such links are inappropriate, since they add nothing encyclopedic to the article. See our guidelines on external links for a more extensive explanation. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:03, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, since the page you are adding to, The Dogs of War is a disambiguation, external links of any kind do not belong. That page is used to distinguish between pages on wikipedia that can be confused. GB fan 14:06, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    History of an address

    Where can I go to find the history of a particular address? I am looking for the history of a house in W.C.H., Ohio (Fayette County) which is purported to have been a part of the underground railroad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.41.56.34 (talk) 14:37, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 TNXMan 14:39, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    You might get better results at the reference desk, as indicated. You may also wish to look here for some guidance. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 15:46, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Add Author info to a county page?

    An author has written 31 books, both fiction and non fiction, about a Pennsylvania County. There is a link from his entry to the county. Is it appropriate to add a link from the county page to the author's page. If so, where is it appropriate? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palmrat (talk • contribs) 15:51, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    This is one of those instances where it would help if you weren't vague about what articles you're talking about.
    Normally, place articles have a "Notable people from XXXX" section. That would be an appropriate place for a link to the author's article. Dismas|(talk) 16:21, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    If he himself is from that county, he will already be in "Category:People from Name County, Pennsylvania". If any of his books are sufficiently notable, they might be in "Category:Novels set in Pennsylvania". That's how it is done. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:26, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Despite the Roy F. Chandler article being here since 2006, I'm starting to doubt he meets our standards of notability for authors. See my comments on the article talk page. Astronaut (talk) 15:58, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    sources to prove the notability of a band

    Hello! I am a music fan and very new to Wikipedia - I need your help! I have tried to create a page about a band I like and who I think should be on Wikipedia. What types of sources should I use to prove the notability of the band? The Midden is a very similar band to Malinky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinky) their page has been allowed while my one on The Midden has not. What do I need to do to prove the notability of this band?

    Many thanks for any advice you can give! FireworksFireworksanddiamonds (talk) 18:27, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    See WP:BAND. -- kainaw™ 18:27, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    See also Verifiability and Reliable sources: Your draft doesn't even one reference to an independent reliable source. —teb728 t c 21:29, 4 November 2011 (UTC) BTW, Don't use Malinky as an example: It was created in 2006, before the policy on Verifiability was enforced to the extent it is now. —teb728 t c 22:31, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Chart for comparing different philosophical ideas

    It has been suggested to me that a chart be made to compare differences between philosophers on their similarities and differences for the Latin term Otium. I'll be glad to fill in the chart on these similarities and differences, however I don't know how to make such a chart in the first place. I would add it after Quotations and before Footnotes. Any suggestions on such a chart?--Doug Coldwell talk 20:33, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Looks to me like a call for the dreaded original research and synthesis.

    Welcoming Templates

    Hi, does anybody know Wikipedia's policy on adding welcome templates to new users userpage or if it should be done on their talkpage. Thanks (please respond on my talkpage).  Magister Scientatalk (4 November 2011)

    Talkpage; definitely talkpage. The userpage is for the new editor to create and edit, not us. --Orange Mike | Talk 23:50, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing

    To whom it may concern,

    I updated a bio on Wikipedia and now I don't see the updates. Can you please take a look and let me know why it's not showing up properly?

    Thank you, Jerry Meng for Dolvett Quince (Fitness Trainer on The Biggest Loser NBC)

    Page I updated: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Dolvett_Quince&redirect=no — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerrymeng (talk • contribs) 23:35, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Blocked for spamming. Skier Dude (talk) 00:14, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    November 5

    Italics

    I can't get italics to work in my sandbox. (I presume one uses two apostrophe's on either side of text.) -------thanks Hilyard (talk) 00:50, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, two apostrophes on either side of text. Your only mistake was to make a space between the two apostrophes. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:59, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    ... see this cure. - David Biddulph (talk) 01:01, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Provelt reference tool

    When i go to edit my user subpage the provelt tool wont display, yet I went to edit an ordinary article and it came up? --Thanks, Hadseys 01:06, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    It's called ProveIt with upper case I as in Iraq. User talk:ProveIt GT#User space says it's disabled in userspace. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:26, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    erie canal

    there is an error. Erie Canal was opened in 1825, but further down a few paragraphs down it says construction began in 1870. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.226.23 (talk) 02:28, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for pointing that out. Undoubtedly it meant 1817. Probably a text-to-speech error. There is another typo in the paragraph (yet for let). I corrected both (and doubled line breaks inserted in the same anon edit. —teb728 t c 03:09, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Text size

    Hello,

    This sounds completely ridiculous, however, the text size specific only to wiki, and within all aspects of Wiki is tiny, about a font size of 4. I am a Google Chrome user, with all up to date supports for Windows.

    At your convenience, could someone please pass on how to enlarge all, I would be greatly appreciative of it. This problem is unique to Wiki, in comparison to every other site I visit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pando1973 (talk • contribs) 07:55, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't have this browser installed, but you could try the Google Chrome help page here. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:18, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    How to request semi-protection

    I am currently "doing battle" with an IP editor whose sole preoccupation is to push a Catalan separatist agenda on List of amateur radio organizations. Thanks. Roger (talk) 16:45, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Don't do battle. See Wikipedia:TALKDONTREVERT. Discuss it on the talk page (Talk:List of amateur radio organizations), and try to reach agreement; if you have trouble with that, see WP:DISPUTE.
    -I've cautioned both users for edit-warring, and requested temporary full-protection.  Chzz  ►  16:50, 5 November 2011 (UTC) I withdrew the protection request [1]  Chzz  ►  17:23, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    See WP:RPP if you need to request next time. Bluefist talk 16:53, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    1. There should be a place to contact someone in charge of some basics.

    2. The link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Lewes#Personal_life on Samantha Lewes actually logs the page on Tom Hanks, and there is no way to view Samantha Lewes page, whether it exists or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.205.210 (talk) 18:04, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    1. Nobody is actually in charge - but you're welcome to ask for live assistance. See also WP:TUTORIAL and Help:Contents/Getting started. Or you can just ask things right here.

    2. There is no separate article on Lewes. As you can see in the page history, it's been changed from an article to a redirect - and in this discussion, it was agreed that was the best approach. You can also view old versions - but it appears there simply is not enough information to satisfy the notability requirements, so it would be hard to have a verifiable encyclopaedic article.  Chzz  ►  18:29, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi I've just updated an article on the 'Market Rasen Mail' and included references as required. All went well except that the link to an external web site in my first reference does not work. This is the reference I created

    <ref>FreeReg. Baptism Registers. Available online: baptism record. Last accessed 5 Nov 2011</ref>

    Clicking on the link 'baptism record' does not connect with the web site which I know is live and 100% OK. What have I done wrong? Peter Peterpajaro (talk) 18:21, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    It's working OK for me. (Re. [2], link is [3])  Chzz  ►  18:36, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Correction

    You have Tim Cook bday wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.198.224 (talk) 18:57, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Tim Cook (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
    If you can give a reliable source for the correction, then feel free to edit the relevant article yourself. Or, post the source here and someone will have a look at it. -- John of Reading (talk) 20:14, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Preview works but not after Save

    See Emma Watson#Other acting work. The image works when I do Show preview, but not after Save page. Doesn't matter if it's "File:" or "Image:". I've copied the darned thing from a previous version, and it still doesn't work. I've tried with IE 8 and the latest version of FF. Doesn't matter. Must be something I'm missing.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:31, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed.[4] If a section preview works but save doesn't work then always look for unclosed brackets or tags in an earlier section. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:50, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll try to remember that - thanks very much.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:12, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    November 6

    How do I do this with the "cite news" template?

    I've been working on a baseball article and have found a link to a news article that would add some character to the article. It's located here, and it's from the Sun-Sentinel but written by a writer from The Dallas Morning News. I understand I'm supposed to use agency or publisher for this, but I have to put location for the Sun-Sentinel (it wasn't the South Florida Sun-Sentinel at the time), and it seems like whenever I put that in there, it makes it look like The Dallas Morning News is located in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. With me so far? Good. Anyway, what is the proper way to cite this? I'm only wondering about how to properly combine the fact that one paper is publishing material from another. I can't find the original article online, while a similar article is pay-walled so I can't tell if it provides the same character. While the article I'm using also has a pay-wall, the abstract has what I need. Just wondering how to properly do this. Hope this made sense to somebody.  :) -- Transaspie (talk) 09:28, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    It doesn't matter who "owns" the writer, but where the item is published. If in doubt, look at the whole page and use the newspaper's name as in the page itself. Fifelfoo (talk) 10:39, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    So, if it's published in the Sun-Sentinel, then it doesn't matter if the writer is listed with The Dallas Morning News, and thus it doesn't need to be noted in the citation? I think that's what I'm hearing, but I'm prone to hearing things incorrectly. Thanks for taking a stab at this, Fifel, and hopefully I did well at taking a stab at answering. -- Transaspie (talk) 19:47, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Precisely. Fifelfoo (talk) 22:46, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    user talk limitions?

    hey all, i am just wondering is ther enot a limition on wha toyu can put in your user talk? i mean are you alloweed ot copy a article and put in in your user tlak so making your user tlak look like a wikipedia article? i ask because this user User talk:729esavioli i was goign to leavbea comment about editing they are doign ona article and got right ocnfussed with ther etalk page jus tnot sure it is allowed--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 10:32, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The guidelines for user pages and user talk pages are at WP:UP; the guidelines for what is not allowed are at WP:UP#NOT. I don't see anything there the says you can't have temporary copies of articles; though a user subpage would certainly be more appropriate. One thing that is not permitted is the use of non-free images; so I removed the non-free images that were there. I also tagged the page with {{user page}}. —teb728 t c 12:21, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, i'im principally active in the french wikipedia but sometimes i add information in english mirror article of the french article i work on. Yesterday i added a model link-interwiki in the article Saginaw Bay for the french article on the subject of Jean Enjalran that have bracket to call for a article that is not existing at the moment. I have seen it sometimes in other articles and as my english is not very good i place the model in a way that a better english writer can reuse my work in french and the reference i've found to write a article about the subject. In a way the link-interwiki also it also give information to the reader where he can find information about a subject on another wikipedia. But after i put the model, someone reverted me without explanation. I d'ont understand why he have done so. Is the model link-interwiki obsolete? Thanks in advance. ChristianT (talk) 12:56, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I cannot read the mind of the person who removed your link, but my suspicion is that the redlink is important because it encourages someone at English Wikipedia to create the article here. If it were converted to a blue "interwiki" link, then people may falsely think that the article existed in English, and would not be motivated to create it. Or, they could click the link thinking they were being taken to the English language article, and may be confused when they are taken to French Wikipedia. Just some thoughts. --Jayron32 13:44, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    But the link-interwiki that was added gives both the redlink to the English and a blue link (shown as (fr)) to the French, which seemed sensible. No reason was given for the reversion, so I've put it back to the OP's version. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:18, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I had not encountered {{link-interwiki}} previously, but it seems an elegant way to provide a cue to readers where more information on the subject is available. older ≠ wiser 14:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    AH. I wasn't at all aware of what that template did. Good one. That seems like a really good idea. Nevermind what I said before... --Jayron32 20:36, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    dialer tune

    i wana 2 know about dialer tune,if u have any idea give me knowledge about dialer tune how it works and which software is using vas companies for dialer tune, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.0.10.80 (talk) 14:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 — Manticore 15:51, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    new documenta13 page is inviting helpers to translate German to English

    I live in Kassel and want to offer my services. I attended the last documenta and plan to be a guide during the next. An English woman living and working in Germany, I have many years experience as a professional translator German to English. But I could not find another way of contacting you other than through your help desk.

    OK, my name is Virginia Hill. I live in Kassel, Hesse, GErmany.

    I look forward to hearing from you as to whether you would like my help. I would be so delighted to take part.

    Of course I will be happy to send any further information about myself to help you make your decision. Regards,

    VirginiaVhillkassel (talk) 15:23, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    This is Wikipedia, the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. There is no approval or decision process about new editors; just be bold and begin editing. We are all volunteers here. If you are planning to translate articles from the German Wikipedia, I recommend you read the page Wikipedia:Translation. I've also left you some introductory links on your talk page. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:21, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    1954 Greada Treaty

    Is there really such a thing as the 1954 Greada Treaty? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.76.131.228 (talk) 15:26, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 — Manticore 15:51, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Global Media Post

    Global Media Post. Why was it deleted from Wikipedia. It has been online as an aggregate newspaper for nearly 4 years! --101.103.25.178 (talk) 15:45, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The article Global Media Post has never existed, and I can't find any mention of a similar title being deleted in the logs for today (November 6). — Manticore 15:50, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    A very promotional brief article was deleted at Global media post. The only content was a copy of the "About us" box at http://www.globalmediapost.com/ It was deleted as "Unambiguous advertising or promotion" but it could also have been deleted as a copyright violation since the website is copyrighted. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:49, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    New article

    I tried and I can't figure out how to suggest a new article... I would like to see a biography type article about the psychic Amy Allan. She stars on the t.v. show "The Dead Files". I like Wikipedia and would like to see a page on her, however; I wouldn't be the best choice to write one. Maybe someone else on Wikipedia would like the task. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.65.40 (talk) 16:54, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:REQ is I think what you are searching for--♫GoP♫TCN 17:15, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    contribution of multimedia content

    Hi, I have several Flash based multimedia files on Biology and global warming. I am the author and would like to share those files. Here is a link to my web site with several www.mypondsoftware.comexamples of files. Is it possible to post these files? If yes how?

    Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkarov (talk • contribs) 17:19, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:VIDEO is a helpful tutorial. Regards.--♫GoP♫TCN 19:00, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Jim Glaser Discography

    Good Morning,

    I screwed up editing this portion of Jim Glaser's article. The single "If I Don't Love You" ws from the album "Past The Point Of No Return", while "Lights..." was from "Everyone Knows I'm Yours." Is there someone who can fix my errors?

    Thank you,

    Jim J — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.139.123 (talk) 18:31, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed, thank you. Help:Table might be helpful in future.--♫GoP♫TCN 18:54, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Untitled

    Everytime I try to log on to facebook it says problem connecting try later — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.13.25 (talk) 18:43, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.--♫GoP♫TCN 18:50, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Note that Facebook is not affiliated with Wikipedia.--♫GoP♫TCN 19:05, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    The question is whether we should wikilink parameters in citations. For example, in {{cite news}}, should the name of the work (like Los Angeles Times) be wikilinked? I have looked at some of the guidelines on citations and references (as well as template documentation) but came way from it all more confused than when I began. Should we do it? Should we not do it? Is it optional? If anyone has more familiarity (and patience) with the relevant guidelines, please point me to something that clarifies this. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:27, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    I think we can just follow the general guidance at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#Overlinking and underlinking. The concerns is slightly different but much of it appears relevant by analogy. Instead of focusing on readers' understanding of the material and being able to find information through linking, we are looking to have people easily understand who authored / what the source is and to be easily able to find it for verification purposes. Just as we avoid linking common terms we expect most people to be familiar with, I don't think it will help readers to link to major newspapers but I think it would help to link to obscure journals. If the author is notable, that's also relevant to defining the source. I would also follow the rule to link the first instance and not others. I should qualify that I am not speaking from finding this in guideline or policy but just what makes sense to me, though I have a vague memory of a discussion in a featured article nominations about overlinking that I think basically said to follow normal rules for wikilinks in articles.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:54, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    So I have to use judgment and common sense. What a concept. :-) Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:58, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    :-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:01, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmmmm...I'm not so sure about that. Our MOS cites an article by John C. Dvorak in PC Magazine.[5] Dvorak gives two reasons to avoid overlinking:
    1. It results in text that is almost unreadable because of the number of underlined or odd-colored links.
    2. The reader didn't know whether any of these links were actually important in regard to the text.
    The first doesn't apply since the references section isn't really meant to be read beginning to end the way the article content is. As for the second, I'm not sure that applies for pretty much the same reason. OTOH, there may be some value in being consistent rather than deciding on a case by case bases. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 22:15, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not sure how this interfaces with our MoS, but if it's at odds, then it would be at odds with our guidelines on linking in general (as I linked above) and not with extending those concepts to linking information in citations. However, having read the article, it seems to me to reinforce the approach in the guideline, so I'm not sure what you are getting at.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:24, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Dvorak's article is cited by the second sentence in WP:OVERLINK for why overlinking should be avoided.
    Sorry if I wasn't clear. Both reasons given by Dvorak have to do with readability. This isn't really a concern because people typically don't read a references section as if it were normal prose. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 22:36, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, I see. You're saying that there's less of a problem with overlinking. Well, I read reference sections all the time for various purposes, though of course, me and you and many of those here are not typical readers. But I still think the concepts from the general guideline work well. It may be less of a problem if we "overlink" information in citations but I don't see any purpose served in doing so and those who are actually reading them in order to verify them will be bothered by overlinking.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:58, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    In my cursory review of the various guidelines AND examples, it seemed to me that what Fughettaboutit originally said makes sense. If the publication is not well-known, link; if it is well-known, don't bother. However, in the absence of any specific guidance, I would not remove a wikilink from a well-known pub.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:10, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Looking for some examples, I see they go both ways, though I found more against than for: see Talk:Interstate 29 in Iowa/GA1, User talk:Rambo's Revenge/Archives/7, Talk:Kevin Trudeau/Archive 4#No Neutrality on Weight / hCG#, Talk:Carucage and User talk:Frickative/Archive 9 but see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Inauguration of Barack Obama/archive4.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:38, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Just to clarify, when I mentioned "examples", I meant examples within the guidelines themselves.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:52, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    This isn't good enough sample size, but I took a look at the last 5 FAs that have appeared on the main page. Two[6][7] have WikiLinks and 3 don't.[8][9][10] I wouldn't be surprised if different communities of editors have their own standards (if unofficial) of how to do things like this. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 23:56, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    BTW, some of those FAs suffer from underlinking. In L'ange de Nisida, the references section is sufficiently far away that William Ashbrook should be WikiLinked at least one more time. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 00:10, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    boys hostel

    i was in a boys hostel 1953 1957 rossi house champion hill camberwell se5,cant find any thing sbout the place — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.97.249 (talk) 21:41, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Jarkeld (talk) 21:43, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Is a screenshot of a video considered "own work"

    Is a screenshot that I take myself, of a video that I did not film, considered my "own work?" Therefore I can contribute it to wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldaqua (talk • contribs) 22:12, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    No, the author remains the person who created the work you are screenshotting, just as a photograph of a Van Gogh does not make the taker the painter. There is a concept you are onto here though. See freedom of panorama.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:18, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, but you have to be careful of how you use Freedom of Panorama. If you take a picture of a large scene, and a TV program happens to be on in the background, but the TV is not prominent nor the obvious subject of the photograph, then freedom of panorama may apply. If you take that picture and then crop everything out except the image of the show on the TV, then you have eliminated the "panorama" aspect, and thus you have also eliminated the "freedom" part. The idea is that, for any sufficiently large area photograph, you are likely going to be including in that someone elses creative work. Freedom of panorama protects you in those cases. It does not allow you to take pictures of copyrighted work and pass it off as your own. I think that the OP would be more interested in threshold of originality and Derivative work, which are more applicable to their question. --Jayron32 01:47, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    factualy error

    There is a factual error on the seventh day adventists wiki page in the first para and wiki says to change it ourselves which i do and it keeps reverting back to original scripting which is incorrect . and references were even provided.

    It is NOT a christian denomination. To be a christian denomination one must MUST recognise and teach that Jesus is the Lord God almighty. They state he wasnt.

    I keep changing it to the facts so who keeps reverting it to what is incorrect?

    They currently say in the opening paragraph- "is a Christian denomination which is distinguished by its observance of Saturday,[4] the original seventh day of the Judeo-Christian week, as the Sabbath, and by its emphasis on the imminent second coming (Advent) of Jesus Christ. The denomination grew out of the Millerite movement ..."


    and the correct wording and the facts are- (references provided and the first point was stated and written by the founder Ellen herself in her teachings)

    "is a Religion which began in the mid 1800's and is distinguished by five major points. The first that (quote) 'The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God almighty'. Ellen G.White (1903, ms 150, SDA Commentary V.p 1129). The second that Jesus used to be Michael the arch angel. [1]. And the last three points, that to be saved, Seventh Day Adventism teaches 1. the need to keep the sabbath on a Saturday,[2] the original seventh day of the Judeo-Christian week, as the Sabbath; 2. the necessity to be baptised (fully immersed in water); and 3. the need for an ongoing life of obedient discipleship. [3], and without these three things a person cannot be saved. It also has emphasis on the imminent second coming (Advent) of Jesus Christ. The religion grew out of " ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.31.34.130 (talk • contribs) 04:32, 7 November 2011‎

    You may or may not have a point, I have no opinion on that. But do not repeatedly add the same text (see Wikipedia:Edit warring). Instead, start a discussion on the article's "talk page" (click the "discussion" tab at the top of the page when you are viewing the article) and explain your position, then engage in a discussion with other editors to arrive at a consensus solution (see Wikipedia:Consensus. That is the proper way to handle these issues. --Jayron32 04:37, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Master Dana Wong article deleted

    There was an article regarding Sifu Dana Wong and now it has vanished.

    Neither Dana or his students know why it has been removed.

    cheers Maurice 122.108.106.211 (talk) 05:47, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    1. ^ http://www.http://www.whiteestate.org/. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
    2. ^ More precisely, Friday sunset to Saturday sunset; see When Does Sabbath Begin? on the Adventist website.
    3. ^ http://www.http://www.whiteestate.org/. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
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