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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Wikiwontletmedeletemyaccount666 (talk | contribs) at 03:39, 14 November 2011. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

You said: "So, which one are you?"

I don't understand the question.

You said: "I lack the energy right now to go and get more refernces, but I will - and I WILL repost this as it is fact and relevant to Arvada."

Fabulous. That's what you're supposed to do in the first place. Otherwise, you're just posting your opinions. I'm sure that parts of your "contribution" were factual, but you did NOT provide attributions to back it up. You must do that, especially when you slander a person or a group of people.

You said: "Your section blanking shows clear personal involvement in my opinion, and I wonder why you then edit this page."

The English language is important to me, so when people who think they are writers add their "contributions" to what should be a credible Internet reference, yeah, I take that personally. Many people in this country today do not understand the difference between fact and opinion, and because the libelous "Police scandal" section had no relevant attributions, it was OPINION, opinion that the "writer" thought of as "fact." The distinction must be made.

You said: "This section has more references that support the text than any other section in the entire Arvada page, and more than most pages in general."

The references do NOT support the accusations you made, and it concerns me that you can't see the difference. In fact, a person who can't see the difference has absolutely NO business contributing to a Wiki page.

You said: "I am sorry you don't like your name up on the page, but it belongs there."

I don't like my name where? What are you even talking about?

You said, "Law breaking police officers are below slugs or pond scum."

I agree completely. Unfortunately, you have not provided attribution that shows any of them broke any laws. Being charged or accused is NOT the same as being convicted.

You clearly have a personal reason to not like law enforcement, and are using this Wiki page to propagate that dislike. That's not for a Wiki page--that's what blogs are for. Take your personal battle with law enforcement somewhere else. 

 Tucker454 (talk) 11:21, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

"Police scandal" section is libelous, biased and does not have proper attributes, making it one man's opinion

The attributions the writer has provided do not support the statements of the writer, making this section libelous. It also makes it purely the writer's opinion, and not a proven, verifiable fact.

The writer states: "Arvada was home to one of the largest police scandals in Colorado in 2010 ..."

No attribution is given that proves it is "one of the largest police scandals in Colorado" thus making this statement the writer's opinion.

The writer states: "... when a neighboring police agency was needed and requested by the chief of police to intervene in the criminal conduct of Arvada's police force."

This is libelous, as the writer accuses the Arvada Police Department of "criminal conduct" when the entire attribution (17) is not about convictions but about charges and allegations. Because no one is convicted in the link the writer provides, it is his opinion, not a fact.

The writer states: "Arvada's city council had chosen not to intervene in the previous criminal conduct of several members of the Arvada police, despite a cost to the city of close to half a million dollars defending the criminal actions of one police officer alone, during a period of budget crises."

Please show us in Attribution 17 where it says that "several members of the Arvada police" were convicted of "previous criminal conduct."

Please show us in Attribution 17 where it says that it cost the city "close to half a million dollars defending the criminal actions of one police officer alone ... " If you do not have an attribution, it is only YOUR OPINION.

Attribution 17 is below, for your review. Nothing in that attribution supports any of the libelous content you have submitted on the Wiki page.

17--Julie Hayden Investigative Reporter 8:34 p.m. MDT, September 9, 2010

ARVADA, Colo. - Three former Arvada Police officers find themselves on the wrong side of the law, charged with misdemeanor crimes involving a case of excessive force and cover up.

The Jefferson County DA today charged 29-year-old Whitney Bauma and 28-year-old Noah Rolfing with failing to report, official misconduct and false reporting. 31-year-old Charles Whitney was charged with misdemeanor assault as well. All three officers have resigned.

The allegations stem from a January arrest, where police thoroughly documented suspect Kelly Etheridge being combative and spitting on an officer, but none of the officers reported seeing Humphrey allegedly punch Etheridge in the face.

Fox 31 has learned that Hunprhey is involved in at least two other cases of alleged brutality that resulted in lawsuits being filed against Arvada. Those lawsuits cost Arvada taxpayers $430,000.

The first case involved a call on a noise complaint at an Arvada home. The family says it turned into a "police riot" with a cell phone taping officers tasing and beating one of the family members. A Jefferson County Judge said the Arvada officers illegally entered the home and illegally took family members into custody.

The third case involves a man who filed a lawsuit against Arvada Police, claiming they illegally entered the home where he was a guest and transported him to a hospital and medically treated him against his will.

Police say a larger internal investigation continues into other issues and officers within the department. The Chief has said he will not tolerate misconduct and will take appropriate disciplinary action if necessary after the investigation is complete.

These are just the first few sentences of your "contribution." The entire section is poorly written and not supported by facts or attribution. That makes it the writer's opinion, and it is libelous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fmetz1 (talk • contribs) 12:21, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome

Welcome!

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June 2011

Hi. You recently added a note to User:Moab rider, when I think you had intended to add it to User talk:Moab rider instead. In general, user pages should be edited only by the user in question. For more information, please see Wikipedia:User pages. Thank you. —Tommyjb (talk) 15:17, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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