Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian Vision for Men

Christian Vision for Men

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Article was deproded, but concern still not addressed. I have been unable to locate significant reliable source content to establish notability. The links that have been added are a mixture of social media, non-reliable sources, and passing mentions. I have been unable to turn up any significant reliable coverage to establish notability. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 01:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 11:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 11:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. As a UK Christian man I might support this organisation if I came across it (which I haven't), but I fully agree that there is a total lack of sources meeting WP:IRS. I found a Telegraph article and a pay-only Times article that refer to CVM, but they seem to be about the issue of men leaving church rather than the organisation itself. – Fayenatic (talk) 12:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Two further articles have been added from The Baptist Times and Scripture Union. In response to User:Fayenatic london Christian Vision for Men would argue that they exist because of the problem of men leaving church in the UK as this is their primary focus. - DaveMedia (talk) 14:25, 16 November 2011 (UTC)— DaveMedia (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Comment - The link that has been added to the Baptist Times just provides a passing reference for the organization. The link provided to Scripture Union is broken. DaveMedia, it would be helpful if you could locate some reliable source independent third party coverage which focuses on the organization. Barring that, it seems the notability is just not there. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 16:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is a very promotional article, but if references existed to satisfy WP:ORG, the relevant notability standard, that problem could be fixed by editing to get rid of the promotional tone. The Baptist Times article is about their survey more than it is about the organization, but it provides some support for notability. The ref to Scripture Union is a dead link. The rest of the articles and references are to blogs which might not satisfy "independent and reliable sources," including a number of "partner" organizations or activites of the subject organization. Edison (talk) 16:41, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The link provided to Scripture Union is correct, but doesn't work when the page is saved ... the link has been added in text form and can be copied and pasted successfully. DaveMedia (talk) 17:25, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]