Talk:Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement

Reframed

This is all based on one anonymous document that has been widely circulated via right-wing sources, and does not seem to be available on any site that is in any way associated with a group like STORM.

Glenn Beck also seems to be responsible for making that document popular, I'm not sure if he is the earliest source for the document, he claims to have gotten it from another right wing source.

I rewrote it to reflect this fact (see below). If someone can provide any evidence that this is more than a hoax, please add that evidence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathan.robie (talk • contribs) 01:55, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Right-wing hoax?

Is this another Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

The source for this article appears to be this suspect document:

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/41671/ http://media.glennbeck.com/downloads/10/06/STORMSummation.pdf

Reading this, it seems to present a vague right-wing stereotype of the scary left, written in the first-person plural, but it doesn't read like documents from real left-wing terrorist organizations. It reads more like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, though better written, detailing a broad conspiracy using the kind of language those on the right would typically use in conspiracy theories.

Is this a hoax or a genuine document? If it's not a hoax, can anyone provide some real evidence of who wrote this, tie its contents to real events, etc?

I can see one historical news reference indicating that an organization by this name probably existed:

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/the-new-face-of-environmentalism/

But I'm looking for better evidence than what I see there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathan.robie (talk • contribs) 19:47, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is ridiculous. STORM definitely existed. I have met people that used to be in it, and quite openly say so. I read the document in question several years before 2010 (on Scribd it was uploaded in 2009: http://www.scribd.com/doc/19285402/STORM-Manifesto). The document is too spot-on (in politics, wording, and tone) to be a right-wing hoax. It is, after all, a statement from a group of revolutionaries (note, not terrorists) deriving lessons from their group's experience for the benefit of the revolutionary Left as a whole. It does that, and it does that well. How is that possibly a hoax?

Blatently Bias

STORM was not a communist organization though some communists were in it. This should have neutrality tags. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.149.114.34 (talk) 12:06, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Van Jones

It is incorrect to say that Van Jones started STORM. He appears to have been involved quite early - perhaps even at the beginning - but did not start the organization. He did, however, start the Ella Baker organization. --AStanhope (talk) 18:52, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article should be revised for neutrality or deleted, its blindingly biased

The article presents absolutely no evidence at all that the organization it discusses is or was "communist" or "increasingly communist." The article needs to be corrected. --RichardKatz (talk) 8 September 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Katz (talk • contribs) 00:39, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]