Talk:List of films considered the worst
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Mockbusters
Why aren't there any mockbusters (such as movies from The Asylum and Video Brinquedo) on this page? Aren't they considered among the worst movies too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.89.164.78 (talk) 05:13, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
- Just speculating, but I think that mockbusters are supposed to be awful. Most of the movies on this list were major films with actual budgets and high hopes that became famous for bombing. Nobody expects Transmorphers to be an Oscar winner, I suppose. Dayewalker (talk) 05:23, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
Why isn't Disaster Movie on this list?
Seriously, I don't know a single person with common sense who likes that movie. BlazeTheMovieFan (talk) 11:17, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
- And I didn't even find it on that other list of removed movies. Both movie fans and critics hate the movie, and I can easily use a reliable source to back that up. But I won't because I know there is no such thing as "reliable source". All websites have their share of lies. BlazeTheMovieFan (talk) 11:20, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
- It's been over a weak and no reply. I'm surprised. So none of you know the reason why Disaster Movie is not on the list? Everyone I know hates the movie. BlazeTheMovieFan (talk) 22:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- I can't remember if Disaster Movie was ever on the list, but I think it boils down to the old "no sources calling it the worst" chestnut.--Sus scrofa (talk) 10:29, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Three films that should be on the list
Why aren't Bio-Dome (1996), Baby Geniuses (1999) and Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever (2002) on this list? I think Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever was even on the list at one point, so why was it taken down? Obviously there are a lot more films that should be listed here, but I feel like at least these three should be included. --Angakoq (talk) 20:21, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- Baby Geniuses 2 (considered worse than 1 I think) was listed here on the strength of its 1# spot on the imdb bottom 100. Someone decided that wasn't enough to keep it and no one objected. IIRC it had no sources calling it the worst per se. The situation is similar with Ballistic; although it has a perfect 0% rating on Rotten Tomatoes it had no sources calling it the worst (or words to that effect), so it was removed. It might be re-added on the fact that it was deemed RT's worst of the 2000-2009 decade ([1]). It's also impressive that RT couldn't find a single positive review of 108 they list for the film.--Sus scrofa (talk) 21:03, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- You've uncovered the big problem with this article (and the reason it was nominated for deletion): there are no objective criteria for inclusion. The quasi-accepted criteria seem to be that "one 'qualified' reviewer has called it 'the worst'" or "more than one 'qualified reviewer' has called it 'one of the worst'", but there's a lot of subjectivity there and there are plenty of exceptions to these rules. I would claim that having a 0% at RT is sufficient cause for inclusion, so try it and see. It all comes down to how hard you're willing to argue for inclusion versus how hard someone else is willing to argue to keep it off. For example, go back in the archives and study the epic battle it took to get a no-brainer like "Highlander II" on the list :)Prebys (talk) 13:20, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- I've been fighting to get They Saved Hitler's Brain and Alien Beasts on the list, but the problem is finding professional reviews of the films that state that they're the worst. I haven't really found any professional reviews at all. I believe They Saved Hitler's Brain was given a Golden Turkey Award, but I don't think all Golden Turkey Award Winners automatically make it on here.--Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 16:37, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- "At Long Last Love" made it in with a Golden Turkey and an entry in Medved's book and "Myra Breckenridge" made it in with only Medved's book, so it seems like "Hitler's Brain" should make it with a Golden Turkey and the fact TV guide called it "one of the all-time worst", so give it a shot. Like I said, it all comes down to how much someone else doesn't want it on the list.Prebys (talk) 08:11, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Ballistic: Ecks vs Sever
The 2002 movie Ballistic:Ecks vs Sever needs to be returned to this list. It was taken off several months ago during the massive cleanup. Here are a few reasons why it should be returned. It was a colossal box office flop. It is on Roger Ebert's most hated list, With ebert giving it half a star out of four calling the movie "an ungainly mess, submerged in mayhem, occasionally surfacing for cliches". Guylaine Cadorette of hollywood.com Remarked "Ballistic: Ecks Vs. Sever has to be one of the worst films ever made. Sadly, you almost have to see it to believe it." Various other critics gave it ever more damning reviews; Nick Rogers of state journal-register stated "The backyard battles you staged with your green plastic army men were more exciting and almost certainly made more sense", and Rob Vaux of flipside movie emporium said in his review "You'll have more fun setting fire to yourself in the parking lot. You'll be more entertained getting hit by a bus". Most notably, this movie is also the single worst reviewed movie on rotten tomatoes; 108 critics weighed in, not a single one of them gave it a good review. This earned it the number 1 spot on rotten tomatoes worst of the worst list. The worst of the worst list contains the worst reviewed movies of 2000 to 2009, The includes a few movies that are currently on the 'list of films considered the worst' page (IE Battlefield Earth and Alone In The Dark) and This movie outranked all of them — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.193.9.186 (talk) 17:44, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
- You make a strong case for inclusion, the case for inclusion of Ballistic seems at least as strong as several other films currently on the list.--Sus scrofa (talk) 11:58, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
How about this movie...it had been criticized a lot and it gains nothing but Razzie awards. Also Paris Hilton has been criticizes a lot in this badly produced movie. --Syukri Abd Rahman (talk) 06:46, 26 November 2011 (UTC)