Talk:MS Paint Adventures

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December 25, 2009	Articles for deletion	Deleted

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2010 October talk

What happened to Ryanquest? --129.93.100.25 (talk) 18:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removed, one presumes, because it's nothing more than a gag. It's ignorable. ----cartoonmoney (speak!) "Be seeing you." 21:36, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Should SBaHJ be mentioned at all? 99.253.198.49 (talk) 03:42, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What, enough sources turned up for someone to jump through the hoops and found the article? Happy days and jubilation! Congratulations all around. There have actually been several false starts: a newcomer would turn up, start the article, and be met with the great Wikipedia greeting tradition of half a dozen impersonal banners and deletion. I moved these onto an user's subpage on request, and have now returned them to page history.

And sure, mention SBaHJ. Just make sure that nobody starts writing plot summaries. That way lies madness. --Kizor 21:33, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome

When did this get an article? What an awesome webcomic, it totally deserves this. I was thinking about making it but couldn't find any sources, kudos to whoever did.NexCarnifex (talk) 00:52, 19 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Too long

This article is much to long and full of fancruft. I think the entire Art Section should be deleted, I just don't see why anyone would care about that if they didn't read the comic. A description of the different adventures is fine, but the other stuff should go in order to remove fancruft, and maybe even some information taken from those descriptions. Nex Carnifex (talk) 12:53, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Really? It looks pretty tidily-written to me. I've seen way bigger messes of webcomic articles... 67.164.60.27 (talk) 07:01, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I edited it Nex Carnifex (talk) 11:42, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Homestuck summary

"brings them into a whole new universe, containing a world of teenage trolls" Really? Doesn't make sense for me. The troll session is seperate, and technically, the troll session is what created the kid's world in the first place. If anything, the troll session 'contains' the kid's session, not the other way around. Either way, the summary is flawed.--84.137.107.251 (talk) 20:10, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because it has had non-trivial coverage by Workbook Project, as defined by the web notability page. A link to the nontrivial coverage is here. http://workbookproject.com/blog/2009/01/25/culture-hacker-how-problem-sleuth-turns-a-comic-into-a-game/--74.171.73.120 (talk) 03:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What makes you think the Workbook Project is sufficiently notable that mention of this topic in that project protects it from {{db-web}}. I added a {{notability}} tag for further discussion. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 02:24, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's the longest web comic on the Internet and with an average of 600,000 unique views daily it's more widely read than other comics that have articles on Wikipedia, such as Daily Dinosaur Comics, which has fewer references from outside sources. I think that at least qualifies this article not to be speedy deleted. 173.57.49.119 (talk) 08:37, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are several newspapers cited here... this seems like just another frivolous anti-webcomic deletion request. Endovior (talk) 23:15, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I concur with Endovior. As such, I'm going to take the liberty of removing the tag. --Special Operative MACAVITY^{Debrief me} 09:16, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the notion that this page should be deleted is ludicrous. It is an artistic endeavor with cultural significance. People bring up Homestuck in average conversation during their everyday lives. How does that make it irrelevant, especially in comparison to the countless other arguably trivial articles on Wikipedia? Should the article about Charlie Brown also be deleted? Can you prove that it has cultural significance? Of course not, because such a thing is too subjective to define. With so many users clearly putting so much effort into this article page, we should err on the side of maintaining content over deletion. We should be asking for compelling evidence that it is worthy of deletion, rather than placing the burden of proof on the fans of the comic.

Should Homestuck Have It's Own Page?

I believe that Homestuck should have it's own page. Homestuck has grown larger than all of the other adventures combined. Plus there are many characters (I started a characters page, but they now redirect to MS Paint Adventures) as well as many elements and locations. It's practically on the scale of a Harry Potter book. LordHyper (talk) 20:49, 15 August 2011 (UTC)LordHyper[reply]

While I don't agree with your sense of scale, I will agree that Homestuck has become a phenomenon on its own. If you think Homestuck should have its own page, I suggest you create it. I will gladly support the endeavor. ViniTheHat (talk) 17:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that someone tried to go ahead and make a separate Homestuck article a couple days ago, however it was removed soon after due to 'notability'. Admittedly the initial attempt was not the best, with overemphasis on character description and nothing else (and further than that, much more emphasis placed on describing the Trolls than the Kids, to the point of imbalance of article focus). But still, and this is just my own opinion, I really get the feeling that Homestuck (while certainly not Harry Potter scale of notability) has gotten well beyond the point of popularity where it likely does need to have its own page. Although I would only be citing something that the author himself said on his Tumblr, the fact he anticipated around 2 million views alone for the End of Act 5 flash speaks volumes to how much attention and traffic the website gets, much less due only to Homestuck. Alexa Traffic Rankings, while not perhaps the most accurate all the time, further solidify that Homestuck is also the primary reason people go to MS-Paint Adventures, with the plurality of search queries that send people to the page being 'homestuck' (about 36%, with 'ms paint adventures' being a distant 2nd with 10%). I've been out of the loop for way too long concerning Wikipedia rules, guidelines, and proper coding/editing/page creating to try and do anything, sadly. Still, I figured I would comment and hope to get something of a discussion going concerning this, and see if anyone else may have some more thorough or researched comments either for or against this. --Resident Lune (talk) 01:18, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Homestuck panel.gif Nominated for speedy Deletion

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ive tweeted andrew hussie to see if he'll grant permission for the image, since its his. ViniTheHat (talk) 00:01, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

It's even less notable then other Web-content like Arby 'n' The Chief, in which it doesn't meet criteria to have a page. Jman98 (talk) 22:10, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]