Talk:The Legend of Zelda: Collector's Edition
Not being sold in public is false
I was able to purchase this in a store a while ago. (74.132.203.18 (talk) 12:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC))
I'll second that. That's how I got mine.Larphenflorp (talk) 21:23, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
- What store? Christiangamer7 (talk) 00:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Please restrict discussion to the article. If there are no reliable sources documenting this, then there is no point in talking about it here, as Wikipedia does not allow original research. Pagrashtak 13:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Ostensibly, if a store sells this, then they'd have information somewhere on the Internet that would indicate this; most brick-and-mortar stores have SOME kind of Internet arm. This would definitely count as a valid, non-OR source for this statement, and hence would be VERY valid for Wikipedia. Knowing what store that sold it means that a search could be done for this source; discussion of citable sources is definitely discussion about the article. Nottheking (talk) 03:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Please restrict discussion to the article. If there are no reliable sources documenting this, then there is no point in talking about it here, as Wikipedia does not allow original research. Pagrashtak 13:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Scandinavia
It might be worth noting that here in Scandinavia, Nintendo of Europe doesn't really exist in the same way - although the compilation was still available through the GameCube bundle, the local distributor, Bergsala, instead chose to set up a limited-time offer where people could buy it through their website(s) by depositing a small fee to cover shipping and handling. I'm not really sure how to incorporate this into the article, though... --Pidgeot (t) (c) (e) 03:12, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
480p and 240i
According to the second paragraph of Contents, it is claimed that the game ran in 320x240i on the N64 and can run in 640x480p on the GameCube. In fact, the game on the N64 would have been running at either 320x240p or 640x480i, but not 320x240i. 76.19.222.89 (talk) 04:56, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Just came in to post about making the change.. NTSC doesn't have a 240i mode, it's 240p (262 w/o even/odd generation) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.205.44.2 (talk) 19:48, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Was also sold wih GC and Mario Kart
I also own this collection and it came with the Gamecube + Mario Kart Bundle that I bought in Germany for €149 in late 2003. hth. -- Repetition (talk) 13:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
2nd quest (Zelda I)
I may be wrong. But the location of the 6th palace in this version seems not to be correct. Can anyone verify that this is not a bug in this version??? thanks
continued deletion of this article
first of all, this "merge" was never ever discussed or voted upon; nobody was aiming to seek a consensus here. second, as i explained in my previous recreations, there are numerous other articles highly similar to this, and they strangely go undeleted; and third, as this content was never reinstated, the continued deletions qualify as unwarrated removal of content.
Axem Titanium, i find it funny that you ask me to bring forth a justification for reinstating an article that was deleted without anyone really explaining why. or does Merging. (may 20, 2010) qualify as a sufficient explanation in your opinion? maybe it is just that you can do whatever you want if you are a mod/some other random important guy on the wiki? Asdfsfs (talk) 12:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- It doesn't look like you're too familiar with Wikipedia mechanics, so I'll explain. Wikipedia is not a WP:VOTE. New Age Retro Hippie performed an extremely competent WP:BOLD merge of a very short article on May 20, 2010, which was not contested for nearly a year, which shows general consensus. Beyond that, there are at least four editors in the article history who have shown a preference for the merge, which also comprises a consensus. As for similar articles, see WP:OSE. For every article that you point to that hasn't been merged, I can point to another which has been(ex. Final Fantasy Collection) and many more that probably should be. This is why articles are judged on their individual merits, rather than in comparison to other articles, since there are so many which haven't been given a critical eye yet. The content is not removed either; it exists at The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Wind_Waker#Bundling_and_legacy and The_Legend_of_Zelda#2000s in a more efficiently written form. Ultimately, the decision for merge vs. not merge in these cases should be the existence of sources to support a full article. I don't think enough sources on development and release exist to justify this article's existence. Compare The Ico & Shadow of the Colossus Collection for one that does justify its independent existence. One final note on etiquette: it's generally polite to leave the article in the version it was reverted to until after discussion is finished. I've left a note at WT:VG to grab a wider opinion. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:08, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
- It's a re-release without any substanital changes. Those items do not merit separate articles when the content can be summed up in a parent article.∞陣内Jinnai 16:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Asdfsfs does have a valid point about NARH's merge that was performed without even a courtesy explanation on the talk page. NARH wasn't obliged to make any explanation per BOLD but I think this issue highlights the importance of following the general good practice of providing a rationale for potentially controversial decisions like this. As Asdfsfs points out, the edit summary for the 20 May 2010 merge was exceptionally bare-boned and if NARH's edit was BOLD then Asdfsfs' REVERT demands DISCUSSION prior to restoring the BOLD edit.
Axem Titanium has done the right thing in seeking further consensus on this issue from WP:VG although Asdfsfs seems to have expressed concern that this is an issue where the "importance" of editors making the case for a merge may be influencing matters. I think that perhaps NARH (the editor who originally performed the merge) should be invited to explain his actions and if Asdfsfs still has any concern over neutrality of WP:VG editors joining the discussion then perhaps someone can file with Proposed Mergers to gain even broader consensus. Personally I think that WP:VG should be sufficiently neutral for purposes of the discussion.
I have a few questions about the merge:
- Four sources is enough to support an article but it's still pretty scant. Do more reliable sources exist?
- NARH did in fact merge the material into The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker#Bundling and legacy. Has any meaningful information been lost in the merge?
- Asdfsfs, would your concerns be alleviated if the "Bundling and legacy" subsection of "The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker" were further expanded?