Talk:Gilad Shalit

From Arab descent?

It was not mentioned where he descends from, is he from Arab descent as his name sounds so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.252.255.97 (talk) 14:49, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

afaik, his parents are of european decsent (he also has French citizenship) both parts of his name are hebrew; moreover, like many modern hebrew names, both are biblical words. (if you are curious, shalit = ruler, and Gil'ad apears as both a personal name and a location) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.117.103.21 (talk) 17:26, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Updates on prisoner swap

I have some useful info for anyone wishing to expand the section on the prisoner swap. According to these sources ([1], [2],[3]), of the 1,027 security prisoners to be released, 450 prisoners will be immediately exchanged for Shalit, including 280 serving one or more life sentences, all female prisoners, six Israeli-Arabs, and fourteen residents of east Jerusalem. Of those, 178 are to either be deported to other countries, or if they previously lived in the West Bank or east Jerusalem, to the Gaza Strip. Two months after the exchange, Israel will release another 577 prisoners of its choosing.--RM (Be my friend) 03:29, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

According to a list distributed to journalists by the Israeli Government Press Office, 1,027 Arab security prisoners are to be released for Gilad Shalit. Many of the prisoners listed are (were) serving life sentences; some of them are (were) serving multiple life sentences. Additional reference is at Ynet [4]. Avi Gordon (talk) 13:32, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Do we cover the protests against the deal?

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/jewish-terror-victims-group-to-petition-israel-high-court-against-prisoner-exchange-1.389791?localLinksEnabled=false

Or does that go in a different article? Hcobb (talk) 12:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't think we have any other articles specifically on this case (although it's mentioned in Israeli prisoner exchanges) so I'd say yes, the protests can be mentioned here. Robofish (talk) 20:59, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Noam Chomsky quote

At the end of the very first paragraph: "Noam Chomsky commented on the prisoner releases, 'we don’t know...whether the release includes the elected Palestinian officials who were kidnapped and imprisoned by Israel in 2007.'" Is this at all relevant? It seems to be an underhanded way to get around NPOV by quoting a celebrity. In any event, it certainly doesn't belong in the opening paragraph. If anything, it might possibly belong under a new "reactions" section. I was going to remove it myself, but being a highly sensitive subject and a current event article, I figured I'd bring it up here first. Klopek007 (talk) 09:39, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Semi Protection

I have semi-protected the article to suppress edit warring by IPs. Disputed edits should be discussed. It is not appropriate to repeat a disputed edit without any discussion, such as the repeated addition of the unexplained "POV" tag. Jehochman ^Talk 13:09, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Negotiations for release - wiretaps

The second paragaph of the Negotiations for release section contains the following statement:

One of the less publicised reasonings behind the specific capture of Schalit was the connection to Amdocs, an Israeli telecoms company involved in international illegal wiretapping. The position of Hamas on the role of illegal Israeli operations abroad targeting Palestinians for assassination or surveillance may have been one of many factors in the capture of Schalit.

These two statements are made without a citation or even a hint of proof.

One rather suspects that the bit about amdocs is a fabrication. Amdocs creates software for billing systems, not wiretapping. The claim that Hamas considered amdocs in its reasoning for the kidnapping seems unlikely.

The second sentence could possibly be true; however, it is presented w/o proof. If true a citation might be nice.

               --89.138.49.115 (talk) 16:16, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Inviting review of my self-revert

I invite fellow editors to review my self-revert here.

I have just self-reverted, to a form of the article I think was the result of vandalism. But I did so to make it clear, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that no violation of 1RR is involved. So I invite others to review my self-revert, and edit it (or not) as they see fit.

My original edit had reverted the deletion of RS-supported material. By a first-edit-ever editor. Who made his deletion without providing any edit summary.

However, at a noticeboard discussion, at least one editor is of the impression that the above 1RR restriction may apply to a situation where 1 edit is as indicated above. And the other edit is wholly unrelated to the first revert (simply, the addition of the word "French"). And wholly unrelated to the I-P conflict.

The discussion is at the noticeboard here. Please note -- under that interpretation, any 2 edits to this article that result in deletions of one or more words within a 24 hour period might be viewed as a 1RR violation.

Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 11:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Money etc.

Hi. This might seem a little heartless of me, but I would like to know whether Gilad received pay while he was captured, whether he will receive a pension, compensation or a testimonial of some type. I'd like it if someone could add this to the article. - Richard Cavell (talk) 06:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

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Any comments from his interview?

A lot of text but what about What he had to say about his captivity and interviews? How about starting with this statement - When asked whether he would campaign for the release of 5,000 Palestinians in Israeli jails, Shalit replied:

I will be happy if all these prisoners are free, so that they can go back to their loved ones, their territory and their families. I will be very happy if this happens."I hope this deal will help the conclusion of peace between Israel and Palestine and that cooperation between the two sides will be consolidated.

— Gilad Shalit

No point me adding it because it will be removed, so hence why the talk page hoping someone (other than me) will discuss its merit of inclusion.--Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 13:12, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Sentence regarding "Negotiations for Release"

A particular sentence under "Negotiations for Release" saying that the terrorists being released in exchange for Shalit have "blood on their hands" - a true statement - is continually being removed. The first time it was taken out, the editor only deleted half of the sentence, leaving it a fragment, and I undid it. However, my edit has repeatedly been undone. Is there any particular reason? The material is cited. Why is it being removed? --96.60.171.236 (talk) 01:31, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

You need to site direct references. Simply stating 'blood on their hands' is opinion. It is important to separate fact from opinion in order to keep this emotional topic objective. Next time, site rererences of prisoners found guilty of specific crimes. These must be upheld by trial verdicts in a court of law. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.149.37.224 (talk) 03:05, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

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