User talk:Folklore777

File:Treblinka Cremation Pit.jpg

In regards to the File:Treblinka Cremation Pit.jpg image posted, among the others. This is a personal photo that is under the proper copyright from the company I work for. I'm not sure why this image was targeted, but if the "This photo may not be used for financial gain" comment was the reason, I have taken it down. All images donated under my username Folklore777 are proper licensed and accounted for. The comment that was posted under the "attribution" was to deter anyone from unproperly using the images on other sites without giving credit where credit is due.~Folklore777(talk) 02:47, 22 December, 2011 (UTC)

That was indeed the issue, and thank you for clearing it up. This is actually in regard to files on Wikimedia Commons. Commons only accepts images that are under a free license, which means, in short, that anyone may use and modify the image for any purpose, including commercial purposes. Free licenses may require author attribution and/or that derivative works remain under the same license. Licenses which forbid commercial use and/or modification, however, are not free licenses, and Commons will not accept those (Wikipedia won't accept them locally, either, except under a few exceptions). You can find more detail at the Commons license policy page, especially (from that page): "Media licensed under non-commercial only licenses also are not accepted" (emphasis in original). The notice in the required attribution, "This image may not be used for financial gain", essentially banned commercial use, and so rendered the content nonfree. Since they're your images, and you've chosen to remove that restriction, there's no further issue. The CC-BY-SA license still requires attribution, so no one else may use your images under that license without attributing them to you. I hope that clears up the reason, but feel free to ask if you still have any questions. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 08:01, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Göth Feb 8, 1943.jpg and File:Göth1941.jpg

Both images have the Schutzstaffel as an author source because that is the source of the images. File:Göth Feb 8, 1943.jpg image is out of my personal collection and has the proper licensing and the File:Göth1941.jpg image is past it's 70 European copyright date so it properly licensed and can be used. I changed the author, was that the problem? And do you feel it is resolved now that I changed it?~ Folklore777 (talk) 15:58, 26 December, 2011 (UTC)

70 years from publication counted from the next 1st January following the year of publication. Provide a source of publication. --Martin H. (talk) 21:26, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I put an author, but I'm the source. You want me to put "Folklore777" as the source? The images are from my personal collection. I don't know what more you want from me?Folklore777 (talk) 15:58, 26 December, 2011 (UTC)

You got the image from somewhere, you not created it. So the source is the publication which made it possible that today you have a copy of it. That source is required, it must be anonymous without disclosure of the original creator. --Martin H. (talk) 21:48, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, years ago, the image came from Amon Göth's daughter, they are of her personal images that I was given permission to be used for education purposes. And for years, I have been donating the 1943 image for education Holocaust research. The File:Göth Feb 8, 1943.jpg image is a personal photo done by Göth himself for a promotion during the war. I suppose he would be the ultimate source. But I didn't just "find" the image somewhere. I wouldn't have posted the 1943 picture otherwise. As far as the "File:Göth1941.jpg", you can delete it, I have no use for it now.~ Folklore777 (talk)17:04 , 26 December, 2011 (UTC)

If it is done by Göth himself - unlikely - the copyright will expire in 2017, 70 years following the death of the author. If it was published under an unidentifiable pseudonym (of the photographer) or anonymously the copyright will expire in 2014. --Martin H. (talk) 22:12, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Göth paid someone to come take the Military photo for a promotion he was trying to seek in Feb of 1943, according to his daughter. No one knows who the author is, no one ever will, because Göth is dead. She donated the image, that she has the copyright for, and your telling me it can't be used until 2014? Doesn't make sense. I know the copyright is proper on it. If it makes you feel better to delete an educational image regarding the Holocaust, then go ahead, it's not worth fighting you about it.~ Folklore777 (talk)17:24 , 26 December, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, copyright belongs to the author even if the author is unknown and lasts the authors lifetime and 70 years thereafter. And we talk about free content here, thats not only educational use but free reuse, worldwide, also for commercial purposes. --Martin H. (talk) 22:29, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I researched this a bit, and left my interpretations for you as a response on my talk page. I believe this image actually is in the public domain, according to Commons' matrix on the matter, since it was published without copyright notice at a time when that was a required formality. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 04:13, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]