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Ironic Ending

The last few sentences of this article - those describing Miranda's death and the escape of his killer - are so perfectly ironic that they seem possibly an urban myth. Can this be confirmed anywhere? I'd really like to see a reference attached to that last paragraph because it seems almost fictional (and is written in a suitably mythic manner).

I agree. I can find no references to Miranda giving out autographed cards, and from what I knew of him previously it seems out of line with his character. Secondly, a policeman would not pick up a rights card and read it - that is patently ludicrous. I am rewriting that section, although the whole article should be put up to scrutiny. --Edwin Herdman 10:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I've edited that out. However, sources seem to disagree as to whether there was just one suspect or multiple ones - the American Heritage source I botched into the article says there were suspects, plural, but another source said there was only one. More research is needed. --Edwin Herdman 10:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The last sentence, that Miranda's killer could not be prosecuted for lack of evidence is contradicted by the source cited, http://www.asu.edu/news/campus/stuart_mirandabook_093004.htm, which indicates that the killer could not be prosecuted because he fled to Mexico. I will change the last sentence in conformity with the source. I am suspicious of this page's neutrality, while undoubtedly Miranda may have been an unsavory character, his harshness may be exaggerated in this account by an opponent of the Supreme Court's decision in Miranda's case. I note that this lengthy article cites very few sources.130.13.56.16 (talk) 19:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)James Bloom[reply]

Assorted confusion

The page says "in November, 2006, the Supreme Court agreed to hear Miranda's case." November '06 hasn't yet begun. Can somebody please correct this?


Miranda was convicted again due to a confession made to his wife? I thought he wasn't married? Keppa 20:09, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I take it this is a different person than Ernesto "Smoky" Miranda, a former member of Mar Salvuchtra? There should be an article on him. Also, this page talks more about Mirandas legal and judiciary happenings moreso than about him as a person. That should be changed. 70.238.197.60 19:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I followed up the source cited about the inability to prosecute Miranda's killer "due to lack of evidence," http://www.asu.edu/news/campus/stuart_mirandabook_093004.htm, which indicates that Miranda's killer could not be prosecuted because he fled to Mexico. I am going to flag this page and change the ending to conform to the source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.13.56.16 (talk) 19:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many parts of this entry appear to be lifted word-for-word from the following article and may violate copyright: http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/not_guilty/miranda/. 76.186.26.107 22:01, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See first line for vandalism.

Name

the name in article and the infobox name is different, what is his real full name? Wooyi 17:02, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Place of birth?

[[1]] claims that Miranda was born in Mesa, Arizona, while [[2]] states that Mexico City is his place of birth. Can anyone confirm which one is true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.22.5.59 (talk) 21:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Almost all biographical references that cite a place of birth claim he was born in Mesa, AZ, not Mexico City. Refer to [3] --Arclightzero (talk) 20:02, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia text book

In my home, the State of Georgia, my 11th Grade text book, American Government, it says that Miranda was lightly mentally retarded. Lucas Duke (talk) 00:55, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A picture of Ernesto

I'm not sure how to add a picture, but there is a cited picture of him at http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_supreme_court_miranda —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.214.229.254 (talk) 19:47, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strange Text

The following strange Text appeared at the end of the first paragraph of the Early Life section: "He had married the duke. Muhaa loath dremd and had sacrificed hisbfaughter and his son for the unkindess and how thesy treayeed him. Sad old fellow I've got to say." I went to edit it out only to find it not there. I deleted a carriage return and recreated it and the strange text went away. 134.134.137.73 (talk) 19:41, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]