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Sticky And Sweet tour

Madonna's Sticky And Sweet world tour is not the biggest tour by a solo artist, Michael Jackson's HIStory world tour is the biggest tour by a solo artist he entertained over 4.5 million fans while Madonna's reach 3.5 million. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ADKIc3mAnX (talk • contribs) 22:23, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It goes by gross. Madonna's tour made almost four times his. — Status {^talk_contribs 17:34, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And I would love to see some reliable receipts please. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:46, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Pushing the boundaries"

Is there any way to make that phrase less vague in the first paragraph, which currently has a sentence that begins "She followed it with a series of albums that attained immense popularity by pushing the boundaries of lyrical content in mainstream popular music and imagery in her music videos"? Leonxlin (talk) 21:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:LEAD, it should be a summary of the content present in the article body. But I'm open to any suggestion you have regarding the line. So feel free to post here. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Business ventures

I was wondering what people thought of having a Business ventures or Entrepreneur section to the article? Madonna's record deals - Sire, Maverick, Maverick vs Time Warner/WMG, Live Nation, Semtex Films, work for H&M, Max Factor, D&G sunglasses, Material Girl clothing, Truth or Dare by Madonna, Vita Coco, Pepsi, Pioneer etc. I think this would be a good idea as she is listed in her infobox as "entrepreneur" and Forbes magazine in their October 1, 1990 edition had her on the front cover with the quote "America's Smartest Business Woman?" as she had earned $125 million USD from 1985–1990. She has also been included in numerous Forbes lists. What does everyone think? 2012 ^{Communicate|Nicely} 20:23, 22 December 2011 (UTC) 20:15, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a nice idea. LEmme see what I can come up with. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:32, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Masterpiece

Hello,

I recently learnt that Masterpiece was nominated for a Golden Globe. See: 69th Golden Globe Awards. Pls add this info. Thx, --OrsolyaVirág (talk) 13:27, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It has been added to the main film article, W.E., we need to see if its that important to be added here or not. Unless it ends up winning. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:31, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 31 December 2011

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"Celebration" needs to be removed from her Discography. It is a Compilation/Greatest Hits and was NOT a new Studio album. If Celebration is going to be kept on that list, then her other Compilation/Greatest Hits Albums need to be added.. "Immaculate Collection", etc

Thegirlieshow (talk) 20:24, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Bryce (talk | contribs) 01:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The IP was right, and it has been removed also. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:35, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Legal name?

What is her legal name? Is it just "Madonna"? Some people seem to claim it is.. could someone please add a section about her name, when (and if) she changed it, what it legally is, and any other disputed facts please? At the moment the article doesn't appear to address any of these issues.. thanks, 137.82.175.12 (talk) 20:34, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

M.D.N.A. is the title of Album 12

From Madonna's Facebook feed: "Madonna just officially announced the name of her upcoming studio album, which is 'M.D.N.A'!" 66.26.95.207 (talk) 15:54, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Have any news sources confirmed this? Please provide links. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 16:10, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is the confirmation: https://www.facebook.com/madonna/posts/10150587188209402 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.70.216.46 (talk) 16:24, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

News sources, not facebook updates. Like reliable sources, such as highly reputable websites. Thank you and please remember in the future. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:17, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind. Why did I reply. ~~

New album name "M.D.N.A." as a Kabbalah tetragrammaton

The new album title "M.D.N.A." is a tetragrammaton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.251.80.157 (talk) 08:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Care to provide a source for this wonderful original research? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 18:06, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense, That's opinion and not a fact, she has already confirmed it means "Madonna" and it is a pseudo-blend of her name. She has not mentioned anything regarding Religion, Judaism nor Kabbalah. If it was a tetragram it would be "M.D.N.N." 2012 ^{Communicate|Nicely} 23:21, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a "tetragram" as you said, it's a tetragrammaton (at least read the article!). It's as tetragrammaton as well as MLVC (her real name Madonna Louisa Veronica Cicconne). Madonna is just obssessed with occult Kabbalah studies, including tetragrammatons.