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Welcome!

I've been editing as an IP but maybe it's time to create an account. Please be nice to me. Selery (talk) 21:53, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

edit References to Pseudoscience Should Be Moved to Historical Footnotes

Query to the scientific community:

To the Directors of Physics Departments,

LENR - Low Energy Nuclear Reaction and Widom Larson Theory, aka Condensed Matter Nuclear, historically misnamed "Cold Fusion"

1) Is this science or pathological science? 2) Do you offer a class in this discipline? If so, please provide information. 3) Are you developing a curriculum of this science? If so, when will you offer it? 4) What peer review journals do you source in this field?

Selery, P>S> 1) Any suggestions before I move forward with this? 2) Is this direction of query able to yield opinions the Wikipedia forum on Cold Fusion may value?

Thank you for your time,

Gregory Goble gbgoble@gmail.com (415) 724-6702 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregory Goble (talk • contribs) 20:57, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

(1) Not that I can think of. (2) I'm not sure. What good do you think this will do? You can't cite personal communications here. Selery (talk) 00:05, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

That organisation....

I will have no further on-wiki communications regarding this topic. Selery (talk) 00:31, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Got caught on the hop by another admin's speedy close. Just wanted to give you a bit more background. The article survived 17 deletion attempts, was deleted on the 18th because the policies on sourcing for notability had got much stricter. Stayed deleted through 10 or 11 deletion reviews until someone produced a better sourced version, which is the one with us now. Given all the controversy over the years, any suggestion that it should be deleted would need a really sound policy reason, and not look like an argument that it should be deleted because it trolls Wikipedia. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:20, 31 December 2011 (UTC) It is disappointing that administrators are more interested in feeding trolls than improving the encyclopedia. Selery (talk) 16:21, 31 December 2011 (UTC) Because it is an encyclopaedia, we also have articles on 4chan, Charles Manson, and people who have sex with goats. I've seen it repeatedly argued that we shouldn't have an article about Jade Goody because she did nothing to increase the sum of humanity's achievements. I actually think a fair few editors would have agreed with you had the discussion gone on, but no-one is going to delete that sucker under WP:IAR, and as the group is notorious, and the article has sources to demonstrate it, I guess we've got to live with it. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 18:20, 31 December 2011 (UTC) None of those groups exist only to place offensive messages on major websites. Some day someone will have the courage to do what is right instead of bowing to the persistence of overgrown adolescents who seek only to make Black people uncomfortable. Please do not contact me about this again unless you find that courage within yourself. Selery (talk) 19:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC) GNAA DRV Comments such as "What do you think they will say if they are asked about it during a wide audience appearance or media interview?", "a letter-writing campaign to news, professional, and academic organizations" and "if you prepare a statement in a day's time explaining why you believe you have not disgraced yourself, the project, and the uniform of the United States Air Force then I will include it with my correspondence" are not in any way, shape or form helpful or productive in the discussion. I suggest that you heed our policies on civility and cease making thinly veiled threats, or it'll be considered disruption. —Dark 23:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC) Thank you for your efforts in making Wikipedia greater and better sourced. Once there has been wide audience appearance, media interviews and news and academic organizations have run several stories about the issue, can you please gather the most relevant of these references somewhere? I am quite sure they will help greatly improve the Gay Nigger Association of America article sourcing. Sam Hocevar (talk) 10:58, 5 January 2012 (UTC) January 2012 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for an absolutely outrageous attack at [1]. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Elen of the Roads (talk) 01:18, 1 January 2012 (UTC) I can abide cussing and general stamping about, but that kind of statement is so far beyond the pale that some administrative action is necessary.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 01:20, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:2011

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Hansel and Gretel in 3D

Hi Selery. You recently moved Hansel and Gretel in 3D out of the incubator due to this bit of news http://www.deadline.com/2011/02/paramount-schedules-hansel-mgm-co-financing/. However this is about a completely different movie: Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters. Of course this is confusing since the latter happens to be a 3D film featuring Hansel and Gretel! As far as I can tell the Hansel and Gretel in 3D project is dead and I've failed to see any recent news about it. It should go back to the incubator. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 12:41, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the links!

Hey thanks for leaving those links on my talk page, Selery -- I had not seen any of those studies before, and I found them interesting. And, I was surprised to see that motivation crowding theory is just a stub -- if you care about that topic you should try to find time to fix up the article. Or maybe I will try :-) Thanks Sue Gardner (talk) 05:40, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Your input is needed on the SOPA initiative

Hi Selery,

You are receiving this message either because you expressed an opinion about the proposed SOPA blackout before full blackout and soft blackout were adequately differentiated, or because you expressed general support without specifying a preference. Please ensure that your voice is heard by clarifying your position accordingly.

Thank you.

Message delivered as per request on ANI. -- The Helpful Bot 16:42, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Reverting newbies

It can be a tough call. I saw what I perceived to be NPOV violations too. But no, I didn't think it was worth spending the time to explain in more detail. Perhaps I'm a bit jaded on the subject due to a pesky user who was blocked in this arena after causing much POV disruption. Jesanj (talk) 20:43, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank You!

Thank you for appreciating my work on the Costa Concordia disaster map!

Cheers, Jahn J. J. Hornung (talk) 21:26, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

And my thanks extent to Selery for being a long-standing and valuable contributor to Costa Concordia Disaster! SteveO1951 (talk) 22:37, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Costa Concordia disaster#"largest passenger ship ever to sink"

Since you insist on including that phrase but neglect to discuss on the talk page, I am requesting your input at Talk:Costa Concordia disaster#"largest passenger ship ever to sink". Thanks, Goodvac (talk) 22:59, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

WP:EAR, then WP:DRN at WP:3O?

Hey, Selery, I was just wondering about your recent edits at WP:3O. You made a change that mentioned WP:EAR, and then changed it to instead reference WP:DRN. Not that I have any problem with the page as it now stands, but I just thought it was weird; if they hadn't been tagged with the same username, I would've thought they were edits from two different people! No big deal at all, I was just curious what you meant by it. Thanks! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 03:29, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

I didn't know about DRN until someone asked me "What's 3O for more than two disputants?" and it took me forever to remember EAR. So I wanted to make it easier. But in the process I learned about DRN which is new and where disputes that would have earlier gone to EAR should go. Sorry for the confusion. Selery (talk) 03:32, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, cool, just wondering :) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 03:45, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

SOPA

Thanks for the template on my talk page, but I don't see any link to ongoing discussions on this topic. A bit surprising, to say the least. Deb (talk) 19:03, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Sue Gardner's page

Hi, I was wondering why you partially undid Phillipe's archiving of Sue Gardner's talk page? If it was done by mistake, please correct the edit. Thanks! Asav | Talk (Member of the OTRS Volunteer Response Team) 22:55, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

I was hoping to continue this conversation. The section also has unresolved questions about declines in the numbers of admins and editors which haven't been answered. Selery (talk) 23:04, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

But you also reinstated a whole bunch of other stuff that's been moved to the archive and should be gone from the user page, as far as I can see. Could you please fix this? Asav | Talk (Member of the OTRS Volunteer Response Team) 23:54, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Which parts? It's all about whether admins leaving causes editors leaving or vice-versa. Selery (talk) 01:12, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, in that case please disregard my message. Asav | Talk (Member of the OTRS Volunteer Response Team) 01:25, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Drop the stick...

I thought that you didn't care, yet here (and in other places, such as here), you clearly do. Quit harassing Michael and drop it. Mythpage88 (talk) 02:11, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Quit sticking up for people who work to make Wikipedia a hostile environment for blacks. Selery (talk) 02:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Are you calling Michael a racist? And, from what I've seen, the GNAA makes the Internet a hostile environment for Jews and Mac users, if anyone. Mythpage88 (talk) 04:52, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

People should judge for themselves. Selery (talk) 09:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

You shouldn't be wikistalking him, though. Mythpage88 (talk) 22:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Showing up at the same place at the same time out of presumably common interest isn't stalking. Did my telling other people what he voluntarily tells other people bother you? Selery (talk) 23:12, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Look, you clearly have a grudge against the GNAA, drop the stick, the GNAA debate has come to "a natural end". If you don't stop badgering him, I'll have to report you for hounding. I thought you "didn't care" about "that organisation' anymore? The organization was founded before Wikipedia was considered relevant enough to troll, they weren't founded "just to troll Wikipedia". Mythpage88 (talk) 23:32, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I could care less about the self-admitted troll group. I have a grudge against using the n-word in a self-referential trolling article. Tell you what, you get them to rename themselves and the article, and I'll drop it. Deal? Selery (talk) 23:48, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Selery, as a neutral party in this, I'd advise you check out WP:JDL before further pushing your cause. "I have a grudge against using the n-word", that's ok, and I can relate, however that is no reason for a page to be removed, additionally, Wikipedia isn't censored. Princess Derpy (talk) 00:12, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Template:Plainlist

This was unhelpful. {{plainlist}} is the appropriate structure for such things. Alarbus (talk) 05:02, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

That's two months old, relatively bloated, confusing to newbies, and entirely unnecessary. Selery (talk) 09:36, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Two months? The thing sank less than two weeks ago. Anyway, the plainlist template is for proper semantics and is entirely appropriate. Alarbus (talk) 09:50, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I think she's talking about the template, actually. Mythpage88 (talk) 10:07, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Ah. {{plainlist}} is a successor to {{ubl}} which has more legs. The difference is that plainlist uses a more intuitive syntax (Help:List) and has quite a bit less preprocessing overhead. Those usages are lists and this is how to include lists in things such as infoboxes. Alarbus (talk) 10:17, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

WP:ANI

Your attacks against Michael are being brought up at ANI. See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Selery.27s_attacks_on_an_editor. for the discussion. Fluttershy !xmcuvg2MH 23:56, 24 January 2012 (UTC)