Talk:Last.fm

Moderation

I just deleted the whole moderation paragraph because the mod system is deprecated and they stopped allowing users to contribute.--Elysianfields 20:06, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The whole audioscrobbler.com site is about to change as it is merged with the last.fm site over the next 48 hours. I've been waiting till that has finished to change the page here. --MilkMiruku 21:22, 6 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm desperate to get to me profile page on AS, do you know when it is due back up?

As I mentioned, 48 hours or so. Patience :) --MilkMiruku 16:37, 7 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, 48 hours from WHEN? :0 pomegranate 16:38, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

I believe they expect to be back up late tonight (sun)/early tomorrow (mon). If you look, they've already got a new "we're down" page, giving a tiny hint of what's to come. In any way, anonymous, just be patient. It's been up for months and months and has only been down for a couple days. Something tells me, you can wait a few more hours.. --Hersch 18:24, 7 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah, I can wait but I've become so addicted to it. The flash "page down" looks pretty good. They have been workin' on it for a while, I hope it comes out great. The old was awesome, I hope they keep the functionality and justmake it better w/o sacrificing the old AS/L.fm. Wonder what it will be like....--Elysianfields 22:19, 7 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For access to the beta for the new site, login via IRC to #audioscrobbler on irc.audioscrobbler.com. --MilkMiruku 10:41, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Milk.....you are a good man. Thank you--Elysianfields 17:26, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Currently @ #last.fm.beta Visor 19:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A release date of August 9th has been posted on the website. Headed to IRC now..--Hersch 20:34, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone be kind enough to show some screenshots from IRC, I've no idea about IRC. Host at imageshack.us. Please! pomegranate 08:22, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

Seeing you asked so nicely... 1 2 3 --MilkMiruku 00:51, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, purdy! Thankyou very much. pomegranate 08:22, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

I'm still waiting for the new site...and those beta pics look cool, not what I expected though. GrayFox92 14:44, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

New site live

The new site is active at http://www.last.fm --MilkMiruku 21:02, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And it's still slow as hell. I can't even see it yet and it's been loading a minute. :( pomegranate 21:55, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

They've been having a few problems but they should be ironed out in the next few days :) --MilkMiruku 22:18, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite

So, everything has changed, and this article, and the Last.fm one reqire a rewrite. Here's some info from the IRC channel:

(23:31:57) <milk> is 'audioscrobbler' as a site nolonger? is it just the name of the backend system that last.fm runs on? or will the name be completly faded out at some point in the future?
(23:32:19) <muesli> milk: it will become some kind of a development platform for technologies around your music profile
(23:32:35) <@RJ> like smart playlist plugins
(23:32:39) <@RJ> ala moodlogic, for example
(23:32:51) <@RJ> and a bunch of other stuff
(23:33:49) <@RJ> basically we:ll expose all the data to do with tagging and profiles and similarity via wbservices, which will make lots of funky stuff possible
(23:34:14) <milk> so the site and service is last.fm but the system is audioscrobbler?
(23:34:44) <@RJ> yeah, a/s is the guts
(23:35:03) <@RJ> hence the as.com site will become more programmer-friendly and less user friendly
(23:35:21) <@RJ> we're hoping to see some fun new uses of the music profile
(23:36:13) <milk> rj: by that do you mean there will be profile info available in a different format on audioscrobbler.com (as it was before), or that as.com will be more of a 'dev community' site?
(23:36:34) <@RJ> dev community
(23:36:41) <@RJ> profile will be there, but only in XML ;)
(23:36:54) <@RJ> i:m writing a journal entry about it now
(23:36:56) <@RJ> hang on.
(23:48:02) <@RJ> milk, http://www.last.fm/user/RJ/journal/2005/08/9/369/
(23:48:11) <@RJ> bit jumbled. i should have proof read it *D

--MilkMiruku 22:45, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Site Down

Site has been down again since I first checked back on it around 11:30 PM EST. It's been down for hours. It's now 2 AM EST, wonder if they will have the new developer Audioscrobbler site up when everything is back online--Elysianfields 06:06, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

last.fm is working fine for me atm. as i mentioned to pomegranate, the site has been having a few probs, but they should get sorted soon. i don't think the as.com dev site will be up for a couple of weeks at least --MilkMiruku 09:27, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Audioscrobbler vs. Last.fm

What do people think about using Last.fm over Audioscrobbler? Should every mention of "Audioscrobbler" be changed to "Last.fm"? -- MacAddct1984 06:41, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

I think that the features pertaining to Last.fm should be referred to as last.fm and audioscrobbler respectively.

Obviously it's now Last.fm. The way I'm writing it, Audioscrobbler is only mentioned in connection with historical specifics, or the plug-in system. I also merged in the Last.FM article as someone tagged for -- when I saw the change, actually, I thought it had been merged with that article. Tsk, tsk, whoever did that should have been more eagle-eyed! In any case Last.FM is orthographically incorrect. --Dhartung | Talk 01:13, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I am one of the Last.fm (and originally Audioscrobbler) developers, and yes, it should now be referred to as "Last.fm" (that capitalisation is official), and definitely not as Audisocrobbler - at least at present. We may bring the AS name back later somewhat (stay tuned), but at the moment use "Last.fm". I have a couple of issues with the article at the moment, but for reasons of objectivity I'm not going to edit it at the moment - I'll raise it later. Russ 00:05, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ravensbourne

Regarding Martinten changing the text, I'm looking for the most accurate way to describe this. Technically the project may have "started" individually somehow. But Last.fm must have had some university imprimatur to compete in the Europrix, as only academic teams are eligible. [1] [2] Given that several other sources have listed Ravensbourne as the place where Last.fm started it seems wise for us to clarify the details (and eliminate confusion). I've asked Martinten on his Talk page to come here and give us a fuller explanation. --Dhartung | Talk 20:47, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is audioscrobbler/last.fm down?

The website, www.last.fm isn't but the service that tracks your played songs seems to be. It happens on occasion. -- MacAddct1984 06:22, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Last.fm template

{{Last.fm|Belle+and+Sebastian|B&S}} gives Template:Last.fm

or simply {{Last.fm}} to link to an Last.fm page with the same name with Wikipedia's

note:

all spaces in the first parameter should be written as plus sign "+"
see Template_talk:Last.fm for details

-- Bact 02:38, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pandora (music service)

So i've been playing with pandora a bit and i love it, but i haven't gotten around to playing with last.fm. how do they compare?Shaggorama 19:40, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't used Pandora but I have used Last.fm. Pandora only seems to be a streaming site while Last.fm has streaming only as one part of their site. The idea with Last.fm is to build a profile of what you listen to. Last.fm then uses that data and recommends (or streams) other songs based on the relationships of those songs with other listeners. So if you listen to a lot of jazz, Last.fm will look at the profiles of other people who are listening to the artists you are listening to, and might play some artists that they have listened to that you have not. User's can also tag artists, songs, and albums. I find that part to be valuable because it lets me examine how people are classifying different types of music. You can stream or search based on tags as well. From my personal stats I was surprised at how much jazz I listen to. I didn't think that I listened to that much of it. — Mperry 21:27, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki

So Last.fm now also has a wiki and more new features. I have no idea where to write it :S --Vincent 13:56, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Link? --Thorpe | talk 14:06, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Link to what? Mperry 04:52, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Although Last.fm's wiki is GFDL-licensed, it doesn't say that until you try to edit a page.. actually, the bottom of every page says the content is copyrighted by Last.fm. Technically this is a GFDL violation. Rhobite 01:45, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV: Last.fm as a global chart

I've never tagged anything as possibly not NPOV. But it seems the above section of this page is bordering on non-NPOV. Especially of note are the lines about "foster(ing) an inherent bias toward established artists" . It seems that with Last.FM, if a person identifies with some smaller artists or likes using "tags" which are more common to smaller artists (such as "experimental" or "progressive rock") then a user would be likely to run into other smaller, lesser known artists of similar tastes that were perhaps previously unknown to the user.

What do others think?

Vandalism?

The table of Last.fm top tracks and artists over time lists 'Such Great Heights by The Postal Service' multiple times for both Radiohead and Coldplay. Is this vandalism? --Flatluigi 23:29, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. — Mperry 01:04, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The track is not listed for coldplay or radiohead, they are two separate mutually exclusive charts. Such Great Heights was the single most played track, while Coldplay/Radiohead were, when all plays of all their tracks were combined, the single most played artists. Joe D (t) 01:09, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alright then, just my misreading of the table. Thanks. --Flatluigi 01:56, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removing the Global Chart

Does anyone have any objections to removing the Global Chart table and linking to the chart on the Last.fm site instead? It's serving little purpose on Wikipedia and the repetition of The Postal Service and Radiohead is getting tiresome. --Mperry 17:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree with this idea. It mars the page. Euphoria 17:44, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since there were no objections I have removed the chart and replaced it with a link to the charts at the Last.fm web site. Users can research chart positions there. --Mperry 03:20, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Last.fm radio problems

I was experimenting with last.fm radio and I have to say it is very, very bad. I'm not getting correct stuff, and it's all from mistagging. Anyone else have any problems similair to this one? I.Mills 16:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]