User talk:JBW/Archive 38
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Not wanting to get into 3rr territory here. [1]. Album that isn't released, only a primary link, no notability, so I redirected to artist, keeps getting reverted back. Seems a waste to AFD, but somehow I'm failing to explain the idea of "notability" to them. If you have time to look, if not, I understand. Been a flood of crystalball stuff lately. Dennis Brown (talk) 23:51, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
- You are perfectly right: the article comes nowhere near to satisfying any of the notability guidelines. I have given the user an edit warring warning, and will wait to see where it goes from there. I see that so far you have actually reverted only once, so you are in no immediate danger of breaking 3RR (the first time you redirected, it was not a revert). JamesBWatson (talk) 09:28, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Category:User simple-N
Hi James. You recently salted Category:User simple-N which was repeatedly created by Babel AutoCreate. Yet half an hour after you salted it, Babel AutoCreate did it again. I'm not sure how that can be unless that account has user rights that it doesn't deserve but how do we stop this silliness? Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 01:22, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for telling me about this. Babel AutoCreate does not have administrator listed as a user right; in fact it doesn't have any user rights listed at all. However, Babel is a Wikimedia software extension, and presumably Wikimedia programmers are able to bypass the mechanisms that control what ordinary mortals like you and I can do. I have filed a Bugzilla report, and maybe it will be dealt with.
- For what it's worth, other categories have been affected, as well as Category:User simple-N. In fact Category:User simple-3 has been fully create-protected three times because Babel AutoCreate keeps breaking through the protection. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Elizabeth Seton School
Dear Mr. Watson,
Thank you for your concern. In regard to the mission and vision sounding "promotional," I did not intend it to be that way. The mission and vision are public declarations made by the school which, from how I understand, represents its epitome as and organization. But if this conflicts with Wikipedia rules I will gladly take it out.
Also, as much as I would like to complete the article, I can only work on it during my spare time. Please extend some consideration with the editing for the meantime.
Thank you.
Ferdinand Alido — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdalido (talk • contribs) 03:01, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. I have deliberately done only a minimum of editing of the article, to give you time to work on it if you wish to, rather than imposing my own version without giving you a chance. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:26, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
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Abhijay (☎ Talk) (✐ Deeds) 10:09, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- Seen. Thanks. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:56, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
CRGh
Hi James, you said for me to contact you in case CRGreathouse won't respond to your remark at their talk page, but they did (edit: clarification: with a kind of dismissive and self-congratulatory response), so I left you a message on my talk page. Please take a look and tell me if you consider the matter closed. Thank you Thanks in advance. WillNess (talk) 18:00, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your contribution to solve my IP problem
- Thanks a lot, It works fine now. See you--Bruno2wi (talk) 10:18, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
I had asked RHaworth to look at this, but I guess he's busy. It is interesting, but I'm not sure it passes criteria. We have been talking on the talk page, but the arguments I've been getting aren't really criteria based. Honestly, I have no idea but my gut says it fails criteria. Would be happy to learn I'm right or wrong, but I think it needs another opinion before he invests too much time on it. Would appreciate your perspective on the talk page if you have the time. I'm guessing there is prior precedent in cases like this that I just haven't run across yet. Dennis Brown (talk) 15:34, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
User:Maynardox Conflict of Interest
Was the vandalism noticeboard the proper place to report that user? I do consider those external links to be spam. Would the Administrator's Incidents Noticeboard have been a more appropriate place? --Harizotoh9 (talk) 15:58, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- It's interesting that you should ask me about this, because I spent some time looking at this case, but didn't actually do anything about it, I think because I was called away from the computer before I got as far as doing anything. I see that Daniel Case thought you should have taken it to the conflict of interest noticeboard, but I think it was perfectly reasonable to report at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, because for some reason that noticeboard is supposed to cover spam as well as vandalism, and this editor's actions could well be regarded as spam. I see that, after Daniel Case had rejected your report at AIV, you followed his advice and reported at the conflict of interest noticeboard. I have commented there. JamesBWatson (talk) 09:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Arthur Papadimitriou
James,
Thank you for your advice. You advised me to contact Wiki Australia to help with posting but I got onto the site and found it too difficult to navigate. Can you please help. I am more interested in starting a Wikipage on the Benalla Art Gallery.
Arthur — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthur69papp (talk • contribs) 21:58, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think I did. In fact, as far as I remember I had never even heard of Wiki Australia before, and there is no record of my having mentioned it on your talk page.
- Before you start on an article on the Benalla Art Gallery you should consider whether you are the right person to do so. If, as seems to be the case, you have a personal connection to the gallery, you will have a potential conflict of interest, and you may find it difficult to write neutrally on the subject. However, I will post a (somewhat belated) welcome message to your talk page, which will contain links to information which you may find helpful. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:49, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
talkback re Likealittle
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- Answered there. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:10, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
MSU Interview
Dear JamesBWatson,
My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
- Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
- Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
- All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
- All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
- The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:07, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Block review.
That was irresponsible leaving the block on review and not accepting/declining it till it expired so that I couldn't add another request. --lTopGunl (talk) 08:46, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- I apologise for not dealing with that more quickly. It was careless of me not to put it on a list of things needing to be dealt with. However, I'm not sure it was "irresponsible". JamesBWatson (talk) 11:08, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- Its expired anyway, no hard feelings. By the way, would it have been lifted? If yes, and given that there was no 1RR imposed on me and I was blocked for the second revert, isn't such to be noted? --lTopGunl (talk) 11:24, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
- Although I normally like to keep a discussion in one place, this time I have replied on your talk page, as you may like to have my answer on record in your talk page history. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Got it. --lTopGunl (talk) 08:59, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- Although I normally like to keep a discussion in one place, this time I have replied on your talk page, as you may like to have my answer on record in your talk page history. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:40, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- Its expired anyway, no hard feelings. By the way, would it have been lifted? If yes, and given that there was no 1RR imposed on me and I was blocked for the second revert, isn't such to be noted? --lTopGunl (talk) 11:24, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Idukki
You blocked User:Tony00142 recently as a consequence of their disruptive page moves etc. They are at it again, moving Idukki district to Idukki. The article makes it quite clear that the place is indeed a district and there is a convention of sorts among India-related geographic articles that we do keep them distinct, primarily because there are so many duplicated placenames in that country. I am very confused with all of these various page moves of the last couple of weeks because, for example, there was a separate article called Idukki back on 2 February. Can you figure it out? - Sitush (talk) 13:47, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- Even with an administrator's ability to see deleted revisions of pages, it can sometimes be difficult to reconstruct the history of pages that have been repeatedly moved. However, as far as I can see, the history of this page is not too complicated. The article was moved from Idukki to Idukki District on 3 February 2006, and stayed there until 29 January 2012, when Tony00142 started moving it around. It seems that the page Idukki which existed at the time you mention was just a redirect. It had been a redirect to Idukki District since the 2006 move, and had recently been retargetted to Idukki God's Own District by a bot as a result of Tony00142's moves. As for whether the article should be returned to Idukki District or left at Idukki, you have much more of the relevant knowledge than I do, so I will leave it to you: you may move it back or leave it where it is. (You should be able to move it as long as the redirect isn't edited.) However, if the user moves it again without explanation I shall be willing to consider another block: the ridiculous moves the user has made in the past have used up a good deal of his/her ration of good faith assumption. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:13, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. I'll try to move it back because of the convention for India-related stuff, eg: Rewari and Rewari district, Thoothukudi and Thoothukudi district. - Sitush (talk) 15:18, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- It turns out that it was a little more complicated than I realised, as there was both Idukki District and Idukki district, which I confused together. This probably doesn't matter, but it's just an example of how much confusion can be caused by these multiple-page-move vandals. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:47, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. I'll try to move it back because of the convention for India-related stuff, eg: Rewari and Rewari district, Thoothukudi and Thoothukudi district. - Sitush (talk) 15:18, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Reply to "Use of Huggle" by User:JDP90
Thank you for the information about the warnings to User talk:Nhuffman68. I have understood the points made by you and want to say that it was totally unintentional from my part. I thought speedy deletion templates should not be removed and the matter should be discussed in the talk page. That is the reason I made those reverts. It was unintentional and as you mentioned "Huggle needs to be used with great care", I will be very careful using Huggle. It was really an unfortunate one-off aberration and not my typical editing. Thank you so much for the information. This will be very helpful for my reverts with Huggle from now on. Joydeep (talk) 14:37, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I just wanted to let you know that this page, which you created recently, has had several edits and been tagged for improvement. I thought I'd let you know in case you objected, or if you could help address the issues. Thanks for creating the page, it was clearly needed. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 21:29, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. Far from objecting to the changes, I think they are improvements. Cleaning up of existing links is a task that needs doing: I'll have a look at that. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
- Done JamesBWatson (talk) 08:43, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Rogiet Primary
Hi James, Ive reverted your block. This user is most enthusiastic rather than self promotional. Lets feed their enthusiasm? Victuallers (talk) 23:53, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Editor
Hi, this editor ([2]) has incorrectly marked my edits to his talk page as vandalism, even though they were not, because I told him that he was biting a newcomer. Abhijay (☎ Talk) (✐ Deeds) 11:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
3371.NGO26
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- Seen. Thanks. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:58, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Please email me
Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 11:08, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
- Got your reply, thanks. Sorry for the short message, when I wrote it I didn't think I was going to get an internet connection long enough to save it.
- I will say that I agree with your comments on our outing policy - which is really tricky when it gets to COI although this isn't a COI issue. And from what I've seen, the editor clearly must at some point have communicated with Jamie Kelso, the senior moderator at Stormfront, despite the fact that he denies it. Still, nothing to do at the moment as he hasn't returned, and if he does get unblocked he's attracted so much attention that he shouldn't be a problem. Dougweller (talk) 11:30, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Forgot to say I tried to email you before I posted, but got the message that you didn't have email enabled. You obviously do now. Dougweller (talk) 11:31, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Aah, that explains why you left the above message instead of just emailing me. I had accidentally disabled email in the course of changing my email address. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:34, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Forgot to say I tried to email you before I posted, but got the message that you didn't have email enabled. You obviously do now. Dougweller (talk) 11:31, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. at any time by removing the
Heiro 11:34, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Further regarding article on Abdul Qavi Desnavi' 16:33, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Dear JamesBWatson, Further regarding article on Abdul Qavi Desnavi, finally edited by Ehsan Sehgal his new user name is Justice007 on 30 Dec. 2011. His edits are not constructive. I consider, he is not familiar with topic, it seems he never read books & writing of Desnavi. He deleted important matters from the article, even the name of books from the list. Desnavi has written around 50 books Ref.http://www.worldcat.org/wcidentities/lccn-n84-206925 but he mentioned only 13 books & deleted rest from the list. Even he given wrong Ref. (see, http://theindianawaaz.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2992&catid=12) That ref. is from news paper that only given one name of his book. In brief, I think said article not need any correction, in case if it is not in parameter of Wikipedia then it can be corrected by any of his editor but should not allow for deletion of matter which has proper references. Almost 45 days passed nobody has rated the article after deletion of matter, if you check history you will find the article was rated by many readers. As you had commented earlier on the article, so I requested please go through original article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bpldxb/sandbox & judge yourself. Regards Bpldxb' 16:33, 15 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpldxb (talk • contribs)
- I didn't comment on the article. As far as I know the only thing I have ever done with any relation to this article was to place a "noindex" tag on a userspace page which later became this article. I know nothing about it and have no interest in it. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:07, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
business designers
Hello JamesBWatson,
I have been notified that the business designer article has been deleted. I do not understand why the page has been deleted. The education actually exist. Could you please help me to make the page valid.
Gr,
Romy (business designer) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Businessdesigner (talk • contribs) 14:31, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- I am not at all sure what clarification you need beyond what you have been told. The article was speedily deleted because its content was clearly copied from other sources, with no indication of copyright permission. If that is not clear, please let me know what needs clarification. In addition, even if the article were rewritten without copyright infringement, it would almost certainly have been deleted soon. I agree with Timtrent's (alias "Fiddle Faddle") message on your talk page: we do not have articles on every course at every university, college, or school in the world, and I see no reason why this one is more notable than most. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Children, personal details, privacy
I don't know everything about how much we regulate personal information on the userspace, but User:Jrobin08 is probably too much. CMD (talk) 15:19, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- This is an issue I have never had to deal with before, and I am not very clear about it. I have posted a note to the user's talk page, referring to Wikipedia:Userpage#Personal_and_privacy-breaching_material. I'm sure somewhere there is something more specific concerning personal information about minors, but I can't find it. I'm afraid I can't help much, and I have to go offline now, so I can't spend more time searching. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:29, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Not a problem, I'm sure I've seen discussion about it in AN/I, but that would I feel defeat the idea of trying to keep the information low key. I'll look around and try to discuss. Thanks, CMD (talk) 15:37, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy#Response suggests warning of the dangers and says that deletion and even oversight "may be used in appropriate cases". I have seen that done sometimes, e.g. here, but as this lad is already on Facebook and blogging away, IMO your warning was all that was necessary. I added a note pointing him to WP:YOUNG and suggesting he remove his email address for fear of spambots: I see he has done that, so he listens, which is good. Yes, CMD, certainly a good idea to keep off AN/I. JohnCD (talk) 18:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, JohnCD. As for AN/I, I wouldn't think of taking it there. Much better to approach an individual admin, and in a more sensitive case than this I would suggest doing so by email rather than on a talk page. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:04, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy#Response suggests warning of the dangers and says that deletion and even oversight "may be used in appropriate cases". I have seen that done sometimes, e.g. here, but as this lad is already on Facebook and blogging away, IMO your warning was all that was necessary. I added a note pointing him to WP:YOUNG and suggesting he remove his email address for fear of spambots: I see he has done that, so he listens, which is good. Yes, CMD, certainly a good idea to keep off AN/I. JohnCD (talk) 18:39, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- Not a problem, I'm sure I've seen discussion about it in AN/I, but that would I feel defeat the idea of trying to keep the information low key. I'll look around and try to discuss. Thanks, CMD (talk) 15:37, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Please block 204.108.196.2
This IP has vandalized Phoenixville Area High School. I gave him a level 4 warning for vandalizing J. Cole. He just vandalized 2002 FIBA World Championship about 48 hours ago also. Jawadreventon (talk) 16:43, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Persistent disruptive editing
Please note that User 118.127.68.110 has returned to making unacceptable reversions at Burleigh Smith following your recent temporary block. Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 01:10, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
- The editor has not this time made any of the malicious edits that led to the block. As for the changes to the content of the article, that is a content dispute, about which I have no opinion. However, I have given the user an edit-warring warning, and you are welcome to contact me again if the user continues to edit war, or does any other sort of unhelpful editing. JamesBWatson (talk) 08:22, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
- Understood, thanks. Not being into edit-warring, it's pointless for me to continue watching this patently self-promotional content. I will, however, make one attempt to reinstate the refimprove template, and will register a view on the Talk page. It is an unfortunate failing of Wikipedia that minor show-business types can use it to develop their sole comprehensive web publicity in the absence of any significant reliable third-party corroboration, and can exclude material facts, e.g., that this subject has the alternative name "Ross Farnsworth", as verified here, on which site the subject's "popularity ranking" is "down, 362,045 this week". Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 06:49, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Don't you want extra content?
It appears that any stories I do on a subject that may add to a Wiki entry are unwanted. Here I'm a "vandal". Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maynardox (talk • contribs) 10:16, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
- Who has suggested that you are a vandal? Certainly nobody has said so on your talk page, nor can I find the suggestion anywhere in edit summaries or talk pages of articles you have recently edited. Perhaps you would like to let me know where that suggestion has been made. I assume that you have consulted me on this because I attempted to help you by posting a message to your talk page informing you that another editor had raised questions about your editing, and tried to explain to you why your editing might be thought questionable. I did this because the other editor in question had not informed you, and I thought you should be informed of concerns that had been expressed about your editing. I will likewise be happy to help you with the accusation of vandalism, if you let me know who has made it and where. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:38, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
- I made the original complaint on the Conflict of Interest Noticeboards. Read it here. The complaint invovles conflict of interest WP:COI and spamming, not vandalism. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 18:45, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Deleted Page - Ai Communications Limited
Hello,
I have just been advised you have deleted my page, i would like to know the reason, if it was for the external links why not just ask me to remove them, i was linking to the content so people can look further into it if needed, i can just as much link to that keyword on wiki it is not a major issue to me.
It is written as a third party and is not blatent advertising, its informing readers of what the companies does, who started it and why they started it.
Andrewiirvine90 (talk) 11:38, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
- Have you read the notification on your talk page that the article had been deleted? If you do so, you will see that it was deleted because it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable. It is true that another editor had requested deletion as "unambiguous advertising", but I rejected that reason, because the very slightly promotional tone could easily have been edited out, and it was nowhere near promotional enough to justify speedy deletion. That is, in fact, why I took the trouble to post another message to your talk page, explaining what the actual reason for deletion was. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information about anything, but requires that subjects of articles satisfy certain notability standards, as explained in the message I posted to you about the deeltion. In addition to the notability guidelines that are linked there, Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations may be helpful to you. Nothing in the article, and nothing that I have been able to find anywhere, suggests that your business satisfies any of the notability guidelines. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:52, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Moving Pages
There is a strong reason to move all pages. 1.Guru Ravi "Dass" , Dass is a caste in India so many people have kept their name after it and using Dass as suffix which has double SS rather than single S thats why the page was moved. 2. Using double SS in all pages of Ravidassia Religion will bring uniformity in all pages.McKinseies (talk) 13:11, 17 February 2012 (UTC)