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Happy editing! Netscott 11:03, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- I noticed that you added an empty section to List of converts to Islam. I've removed it because it served no purpose and seemed a bit disrespectful, I hope you don't mind. Netscott 11:03, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- You should know that despite my having edited in the "suspected terrorists" section you created, I am not really inclined to support it. To me the term "suspected" is something that should be avoided in an Encyclopedia. I created the "Convicts on charges of terrorism" section solely due to the fact that every individual listed in that section is there based upon cold hard facts. If you intend for the "suspected" terrorists section to remain, I strongly advise you to cite in the article which government/organization is the entity doing the "suspecting" and also add reliable source ref. citations to each individual listed. Netscott 11:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Netscott, I followed your suggestions and moved Anderson to the Militants section because he is convicted of espionage for Al Qaeda. I hope it is OK by now. --Xorox 11:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Xorox, that seems better. Anderson is a tough one, because his case did involve terrorism through Al-Qaeda, but he wasn't charged with terrorism and didn't appear suspected of it. I notice that you're removing converts without editorial commentary. When you're making edits please be sure to do you best to explain your edits in the editorial commentary section. Such removal of content without explanation is frowned upon here at WikiPedia. Netscott 11:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- I removed them because there were no articles about them. If we have to include every convert to islam, it will be quite boring. Of one, the reference was even missing. OK, I will keepit in mind the next time and document. Thank you for the suggestion. --Xorox 12:00, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Xorox, that seems better. Anderson is a tough one, because his case did involve terrorism through Al-Qaeda, but he wasn't charged with terrorism and didn't appear suspected of it. I notice that you're removing converts without editorial commentary. When you're making edits please be sure to do you best to explain your edits in the editorial commentary section. Such removal of content without explanation is frowned upon here at WikiPedia. Netscott 11:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Netscott, I followed your suggestions and moved Anderson to the Militants section because he is convicted of espionage for Al Qaeda. I hope it is OK by now. --Xorox 11:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- You should know that despite my having edited in the "suspected terrorists" section you created, I am not really inclined to support it. To me the term "suspected" is something that should be avoided in an Encyclopedia. I created the "Convicts on charges of terrorism" section solely due to the fact that every individual listed in that section is there based upon cold hard facts. If you intend for the "suspected" terrorists section to remain, I strongly advise you to cite in the article which government/organization is the entity doing the "suspecting" and also add reliable source ref. citations to each individual listed. Netscott 11:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Straw Poll on Charities
Hello Xorox, since you've edited on subjects dealing with Islam I thought I'd invite you to express your opinion on a straw poll for an article title change now setup over at Talk:Charities_accused_of_ties_to_terrorism. Netscott 18:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll have a look at it and think about which is the best title for this article. --Xorox 19:50, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Not sure what to tell you on that. All I know is that he wasn't convicted, WikiPedia articles must not present information as factual when such is not the case. As an editor who's inclined to want to present subject matter from an NPOV, I really don't want that article becoming 'lopsided' with large amounts of terror related sections (imho, already it's getting a bit heavy). It seems that you're adding converts in other sections as well but my recommendation (if you're not already doing so) would be to try and add one 'positive' convert for every 'negative' convert. Netscott 11:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- When I originally added the "convicts of Terrorism" section I didn't simultaneoulsy add other 'positive' converts primarily due to the fact that at that point such a 'positive'/'negative' dichotomy wasn't already established. Now however at the same time as I would add additional citations in that section I would further add to the other sections. Netscott 11:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- A "suicide" bombers section would definitely be factual but again to add another terror related section to me starts to render the article a bit lopsided. While I understand that you are not a general expert in terms of muslim converts I think you could equally apply the techniques you're using to find the "negative" muslim converts to find "positive" ones. By adding more and more "negative" citations the article is being setup for an edit war by those editors who'd rather not see such citations. My recommendation to concurrently add positive citations is done so with the spirit to avoid such future edit warring. Netscott 11:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- It seems fine how you have it now, but please be balanced in your additions and add "positive" converts as well. Netscott 11:26, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to assume good faith in my fellow editors but I also know how edit warring develops and due to that fact I'm concurrently inclined to make efforts to reduce chances for such wars to develop. Netscott 11:33, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- It seems fine how you have it now, but please be balanced in your additions and add "positive" converts as well. Netscott 11:26, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- A "suicide" bombers section would definitely be factual but again to add another terror related section to me starts to render the article a bit lopsided. While I understand that you are not a general expert in terms of muslim converts I think you could equally apply the techniques you're using to find the "negative" muslim converts to find "positive" ones. By adding more and more "negative" citations the article is being setup for an edit war by those editors who'd rather not see such citations. My recommendation to concurrently add positive citations is done so with the spirit to avoid such future edit warring. Netscott 11:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)