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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Lambiam (talk | contribs) at 16:51, 5 March 2012 (Of two minds: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Are we certain this is painted by Leonardo Da Vinci?

The article on Leonardo Da Vinci states that this painting is attributed to Da Vinci most of the time, but that it is not certain and there are critics how maintain a different opinion. I am not an expert on this subject, but if there is literature presenting this opinion it would seem important for the purposes of a neutral point of view to at least mention the evidence supporting a painter who is not Da Vinci. PhilipDSullivan 22:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Only example in the US?

My understanding is that this painting is the only Da Vinci (If he did in fact create it) in the United States...is that worth mentioning? Antimatter--talk-- 17:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is debatable depending on whether The Dreyfus Madonna is by Leonardo. Phil5329 (talk)

According to the National Gallery's information placard next to the painting, this is the only painting by Leonardo in the Americas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.127.186.72 (talk) 22:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peeling Paint?

I seem to remember hearing a long time ago that Leonardo mixed his own pigments, and that the paint on this portrait is beginning to crack and peel away, not being a particularly good batch. Has anyone else heard similar? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Albino Bebop (talkcontribs) 15:18, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Original research tag

I added the tag regarding the paragraph describing her smile etc. Perhaps quote somebody who said that?-Phil5329 (talk)

Ginevra's dates

The dates given seem highly improbable since they are the dates of Leonardo da Vinci, the painter of the portrait. Also the portrait is said to be painted in 1474 when the sitter was 16. In which case she could not have been born in in 1452 since that would have made her 22 at the time of the picture. I do not know her real dates so cannot edit this satisfactorily. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sardanapalus (talkcontribs) 12:34, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the erroneous dates and added that she was born around 1458. This is based on the information available on the National Gallery of Art Website which appears authoritative: "probably commissioned about the time of her marriage at age sixteen. Leonardo himself was only about six years older." The date of her death may not be known. Aa77zz (talk) 16:36, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Of two minds

The article appears not to have its mind made up about its topic. Is it the person Ginevra de' Benci or the painting by Leonardo?

  • If it is the person, as the lead suggests, the article title should not be in italics. The article is actually not very informative about the person beyond that she was admired for her intelligence – where does that snippet of information come from? not from the cited source. The material that is really about the painting and not the portrait should appear in a separate section.
  • If it is the painting, the lead should reflect that. A separate section entitled "Identification", given the uncertainty and various theories on who the is actually portrayed here, would be in order.

 --Lambiam 16:51, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]