Talk:2012 Hong Kong Chief Executive election

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Democratic party members not being given home entry permits. A couple of questions - I'm not sure if all democratic party members are not allowed the permits, or only some. Also,I don't think there is an official reason why those like Ho are not given a permit (even though everyone knows why). And, as Ho is not going to win, the fact that he cannot go to Mainland China is not really relevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.177.38.242 (talk • contribs)

You count the number of times Donald Tsang has had to enter the mainland for paperwork, signings, visits etc. Many many times. It is not possible to be chief exec, while limited to just the SAR territories. Benjwong (talk) 03:25, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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So editor Ohconfucius and HKfuture has deleted the following content multiple times regarding candidate Yu Wing-yin.

"He is known for supporting the crackdown actions of the Communist government during the 1989 Tiananmen Square Protests, and said it was too bad they didn't have water cannons and plastic bullets."

This is relevant to this election because it shows where a non-party candidate takes stands. I am tempted to put this back, but will discuss here first. Benjwong (talk) 02:59, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

• It's not just me and Hkfuture (talk · contribs) who see it as a coatrack. It was previously removed by RTBED (talk · contribs). Having said that, the two preceding named editors may be socks, but that's another matter.

  Yu Wing-yin is not even a candidate, but somebody who announced that he was seeking nominations. He has such a cameo role in this play, and zero support from EC members, that I would have few hesitations in removing everything except his name as a passing mention. So far, I have refrained. We don't talk about any of the candidates stances or policy issues here in the article (maybe we should); in the absence, I feel that talking about his stance on June 4 is over the top to the extreme. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 03:35, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

The media presented this election mostly as a 2 horse race. That doesn't mean you have to do the same on wiki. You can present 10 candidates to be all equal whether they have EC support or not. And an over-the-top extreme view is exactly where the candidate stand. It makes it even more reasonable to present it. Benjwong (talk) 04:17, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Do you mean that it's not a two-horse race? Although one's gone lame since they were under starters orders. ;-) Yu is not a candidate, he never was – not even an "also ran"--Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 04:29, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

It comes down to whether the statement have any purpose if he is not going to win anyways. In that case probably not. I just feel it is important to see how even non-party candidates can have these types of views. Benjwong (talk) 04:36, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

What you have left is nothing but a name. It says nothing about the candidate who otherwise will never be notable enough for a full article. But a few sentences of comments won't hurt. Benjwong (talk) 05:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Presumably you're referring to this. Well, there's not even a source to get any decent information from. The part I deleted said he didn’t know any one of them personally – that just about covers 66 percent of the population; even Regina Ip couldn't get 150 signatures. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 06:03, 8 March 2012 (UTC)