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...is off the Wiki for the second, and final, time. Best of luck to all! Cheers, Khazar

User:Khazar/DYK

Darn!

Well, if you do need to cut back on the stresses its your prerogative. Shame we don't have (m)any editors working on journalists. WikiProject Journalism looks dead to me... (As an aside, hope you get well enough to leave the house...). Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:21, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with everything Crisco said. Further, I want to say that these ongoing witchhunts are taking their toll on a lot of people. It's a crying shame to see them discourage a contributor who has been here for all the right reasons and is doing competent work on an important, but underrepresented, subject. --Orlady (talk) 23:31, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sad! I was soooo happy to see you return, Khazar, and you noticed. All the best for you personally, for health and well-being. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:36, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Add one more. Do what's best for your health, man, but don't leave thinking you aren't or weren't appreciated. Let me know what you think about the new Gibson book. The Interior (Talk) 23:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks all, for the kind wishes. It's a weird time, for sure, but I'm still blessed to have a wife looking out for me and a Khazar, Jr. on the way in July. So sick or no, I'll be okay. Cheers all around, 184.59.31.77 (talk) 18:55, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Khazar, I'm sorry to hear you've been having health issues, and hope those are behind you soon. I also apologize for not remembering we had interacted previously; that has much to do with the fact that any attempt to get DYK to work on these issues (which have been going on for years) is met with similar responses from most responding, so many individuals run together in my memory. It seems to me remarkably simple and apparent that DYK could solve all of these problems by having some sort of directorate-- a panel responsible for reviewing each review before they go on the mainpage-- but all such suggestions for curbing the problem are rejected there, yet the problem goes on, unabated. It was not my intent to single you out, nor did I recall we had met before. But more importantly, your departure seems at an inopportune time-- Moonriddengirl could come over and say that *I* am totally wrong, and then you will have left the building for nothing :) If Moonriddengirl should come over and say otherwise, we all learn something about how to better paraphrase. I'm sorry for your real-life stresses, but it was not my intent to make this personal, and I'm sorry it hit you so hard. On the other hand, I don't see how characterizing efforts to stem these significant recurring issues at DYK as "witch hunts" is helpful towards resolving the long-standing problem. If DYKers would put their heads together and come up with solutions, I think we'd all end up happier. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:41, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sandy, it's kind of you to leave this note, but the fact that it took my leaving Wikipedia to get you to directly engage with me about your accusations speaks for itself. I wish you the best, but I appreciate it if you wouldn't post here again. 184.59.31.77 (talk) 18:55, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to hear about your health problem, Khazar. Don't let the Plagiarism Paranoiacs get on your nerves. Let's assume they only want what's best for Wikipedia. But, it's a gray area, it's subjective, and, it's a matter of opinion. Take a break, then come back. Your humility alone makes you unique here! --Kenatipo speak! 00:29, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ha! It's easy to be humble when you're simply not very smart. =) Unfortunately, my doctor has firmly ordered me to avoid stress; a forum where the admins abruptly denounce users for criminal charges definitely is in the red zone. (To put this in perspective, I even had to give up coffee!) Thanks for the note, and all best in your future editing, 184.59.31.77 (talk) 18:55, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for María Cristina Caballero

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I fixed all but Court of cassation, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:12, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda, you're the greatest. 184.59.31.77 (talk) 18:55, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete DYK nomination

Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Abdul Samay Hamed at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; see step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with {{db-g7}}, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 20:08, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heartless bot, I will take care of it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Steven Gan

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Naser al-Raas

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

2 Activists released

Naser al-Raas and Fadhila Mubarak were released yesterday, but I think their trials are still on going [1] [2]. By the way, congrats on the DYK nominate Bahraini Activist Talk to me 08:13, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Jineth Bedoya Lima

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

I added him to the statistics! Thanks for struggling also here for Human rights, that for example contributors are treated with the same respect demanded for BLPs, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:39, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Communist Labour Party (Syria)

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Tuhama Mahmoud Ma'rouf

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ignacio Gómez

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Shieh Chung-liang

Rschen7754 02:22, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Pavel Sheremet

Rschen7754 02:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Freedom Neruda

Orlady (talk) 10:08, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Don't forget

Rare and enlightening
Thank you for raising awareness for Human Rights and those who suffer fighting for them, people who deserve attention and serve as models! On the day when you achieved your goal, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:18, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers, Gerda! 184.59.31.77 (talk) 17:15, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Walking the walk?

So, I wrote (maybe stubbed, but it's still something) Grémah Boukar Koura (or Grémah Boucar) per your request on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countering systemic bias, and was going to start Nizar Nayouf (or Nizar Nayyouf). Except that I see you've left. :-(. So, you're encouraging other people to write about these heroic journalists who face torture and death from governments or organized crime figures and don't quit. And you yourself are quitting because ... a well meaning volunteer accused you of not paraphrasing enough? Even though numerous other editors defended you, and helped rewrite the article? And now instead of having 58 DYKs to your credit you only have 57? Come on. Sense of proportion. No one is asking you to face torture or death here; and yet I wouldn't be surprised if your writing on Wikipedia reaches as many people as those of some of your subjects. There's a phrase about trying to follow the ideals you respect. Have a nice rest, then come back. There's more good work to be done, don't let Sandy Georgia drive you off, especially when she wasn't even intending to. --GRuban (talk) 15:16, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ouch. Well, I'll be the first to admit my going is pretty selfish, even hypocritical. And I appreciate your efforts to shame me into staying. But while I know you mean well by minimizing SG's actions here, I don't take the accusation as lightly as you do. I regularly engage with and learn from people who have concerns about my editing. But that editor didn't talk to me about close paraphrasing, but started posting on article pages, user pages, and project pages that my Wikipedia work consisted entirely of "clear as daylight" serial plagiarism. Coming from an academic background, that's not a charge I shrug off; I've seen it end a friend's career, and if my real name was ever connected to this Wikipedia account, it's possible that SG's accusation would have some minor real-life consequences, assuming I can someday return to work. (Tenure committees screen your web presence pretty ruthlessly at my university for signs of academic misconduct, and I'd at least need to explain myself.)
The much bigger issue here, though, is just my declining health. Two years ago I would have been glad to stay and slug it out with folks, since, after all, it didn't take much effort to disprove that accusation. But in the past year I've lost my ability to exercise, then to work, and recently even to leave the house; I just bought my first wheelchair, and have to spend more time in it than I'd like. Nobody knows for sure what causes myalgic encephalomyelitis, but it's generally agreed that stress of any kind hastens the immune system collapse and worsens the condition. As a result, I'm trying to become a bit like Bruce Banner, ducking stress, frustration, and anger whenever I can. (Some days I'm great at this, others not so much.) It's not really a knock on Wikipedia--obviously, I'm a rare case--but it's just too hostile a climate for somebody like me, compared to other organizations I could do volunteer writing and editing for. (It's not just the SG incident that makes me feel this way, either, though that was the final straw in making me feel I could no longer avoid Wikipedia turf wars no matter how I edited.)
So I'll readily grant you that, say, Ignacio Gomez wouldn't back down under these conditions, but I'm not exposing Pablo Escobar here; I'm just summarizing information that I can find in a few hours of Google searching. Somebody healthier than I am can take on the SGs of the world; I'll probably be reaching out to some groups like Amnesty Internatoinal, HRW, etc., to see if they can use a hand with volunteer writing for their websites.
On a totally different note, cheers for taking on that Gremah Boucar article. It's great to see another link on that list go blue! Keep up the good work, and thanks for taking the time to post, 184.59.31.77 (talk) 18:02, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A cup of tea for you!

Here's to your health dearest Khazar! We really appreciate the work you do here. Hope you feel better soon. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:17, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers, Dr. B! I'll do my best-- 184.59.31.77 (talk) 22:52, 11 February 2012 (UTC) (formerly Khazar)[reply]

New Ginetta Sagan article

The Biography Barnstar
Thanks for taking the effort to create the new Ginetta Sagan article. Your efforts to improve Wikipedia is appreciated. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:07, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! 184.59.31.77 (talk) 15:34, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Yndamiro Restano Díaz

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:28, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Musa Muradov

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pap Saine

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Fadhila Mubarak

The DYK project (nominate) 05:32, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Tipu Sultan (journalist)

The DYK project (nominate) 23:32, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

afd Carmel School Giridih

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DYK for Svetlana Kalinkina

The DYK project (nominate) 17:08, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Since you've been gone

I think it's a shame that all your DYK noms have passed (most uneventfully) and you can only sit and watch as an IP. It's not right. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:13, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, man. I really appreciate that everybody saw them through--looking over some the nomination pages today I was sorry to see the amount of work I left behind for others. Anyway, most of my "good focus days" are going into wrapping up my academic work right now, but who knows, I may try to get back on this summer; at the very least I'll probably update a few prisoner of conscience articles from time to time. Thanks as always for the good will, and for your own continued amazing work here! 72.131.118.45 (talk) 00:46, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to hear that! I just inserted the last one to your DYK and was ready to add an edit notice about it being the last one, - but didn't. Let me know about updates, I am good at it. See also, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much, Gerda, for your continued kindness. I'm touched that you've maintained my list. All the best, 72.131.118.45 (talk) 03:42, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Nosa Igiebor (journalist)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 6 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Capponi Article

Hi Khazar, Could you please delete the orphan tag on the Capponi page. This article has been linked to from several other articles now.

Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathrynwinters (talkcontribs) 18:40, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Cheers, 72.131.118.45 (talk) 03:42, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]