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Hello!!!

Hi, this is Jobin, a new wikipedia user. I came to understand that you have an interest in Computer and related topics. I am working on a few articles related to Programming in C. Therefore, I kindly request you to help me on these topics

You may also drop your valuable suggestions on other related articles on my talk page. Jobin RV (talk • contribs) 11:47, 4 September 2011 (UTC)Jobin RV 13:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anwar's death

How do we know Anwar Sheikh died? --Matt57 01:47, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a reference which claims that he died on 25 November 2006 in Wales, GB:

http://www.haindavakeralam.org/PageModule.aspx?PageID=2426&SKIN=W

Though it is a Hindu website it is unlikely that such a trivial thing will actually be a propaganda, as they only claim his death not murder by Islamofascists or any such thing.

Since the person in question is socially of a low profile, it is unlikely that secular reports of his death will be available in just two days.

Thanks, I've put in the link on his death now: Anwar Shaikh. --Matt57 17:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regions of India

Well, if your ideas are wholly your own creation, you don't want to publish them here – that would be original research. But if, as is more likely, you are schematizing more widespread conceptions (and better yet, if you can cite precedents for your schema), then I can help you work your ideas into a framework suitable for Wikipedia. What's your suggestion? Q·L·1968 ☿ 18:58, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

India Demographics

Because of India's rich diversity, no one image can represent all of India's one billion people. That is why I propose selecting a new demographics image every three months. This would allow for a regional balance and would show India as a whole. Many people have agreed that this is the only way to represent India's rich and varied diversity. Since you have voted for a change in the demographics section, I wanted to update you on this proposal. I would love to hear your comments on talk:India. Thanks so much. Have a great day!

-Coollemonade 23:53, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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RE:Hindi

I would like to run the Ganeshbot on the Hindi wikipedia. I am ready to type in the template for Indian cities and towns so that they can be expanded. Please reply. Maquahuitl 07:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Deeptrivia was looking to do the same some time back. I had sent him a csv file for translation. I can send you the same. Please send me a e-mail so that I have your address to send the file to. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 06:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Disappointed

I'm deeply disappointed by your comments on the main page talk page, in reference to Pakistan and Pakistani editors. As I mentioned before your comments, there was absolutely no reason to bring up Pakistan. Yousaf never brought up Pakistan and he repeatedly denied this had anything to do with India-Pakistan. You should remember to Wikipedia:Assume good faith and Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Other editors, including me, pointed out why the claim of India bias had no merit without having to retort to attack Pakistan or Pakistani editors. Nil Einne 11:03, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Indian demographics pic

Hi, I believe you had once expressed a view about this pic that appears in the India article, demographics section. I do not know what your exact comment was. But you had been counted among those who had expressed a view to "keep" the pic in the article. Since some of us now feel that this pic is a better replacement, in that it is more relevant to the said section, I request you to please leave a comment here. Thanks. Sarvagnya 09:12, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reformatting thye display of userboxes on your user page

I have reformatted the display of the userboxes in your user page as the display was mixing up different items of your content when I looked at it. Please take a look at the current version and see if you wish to keep the modification or revert as per your choice. Do let me know if you would like any feedback/other help. -Deepraj | Talk 15:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template

Salaam Maquahuitl. I appreciate your interest in Hindustani related articles. Your template regarding this topic seems to be helpful. Would you mind finalizing it and placing it in the appropriate articles. I think this would be a good idea. Thanks. Khuda hafiz, AnupamTalk 05:07, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

06:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)Sayed Mohd Faiz Hiader Rizvi (talk)==Your recent edits== Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot 22:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Portal: Uttar Pradesh

Hi! Maquahuitl,
I read your wish of starting Portal: Uttar Pradesh today while visiting your userpage, I have already started same on 14, Nov 2007, you are welcome to contribute and update the sections.
- Sayed Mohd Faiz Hiader Rizvi (talk) 06:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sorry! about any offence but it seems your User page says,

" Once they are classified under the GA category I shall try to start the Uttar Pradesh portal."
So I messaged you.
Sayed Mohd Faiz Hiader Rizvi (talk) 11:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Hi Maquahuiti

Happy New year Pls help me to circulate this appeal- if any body/ or few of You brilliants who reside in North India can tell me about newspapers in India like Punjab Kesari, Dainik Bhaskar , Rajasthan Patrika , Navjyoti ? or few famous news papers of Jaipur , Rajasthan , Punjab Their circulation or popularity . & if any body of you know Hindi. or interested to explore different/ all or specific religion , philosophy , poetry etc . I want your help to translate some few 50 line of Hindi news to English. Pls. Gift your name to me on my talk page please Regards - --Dralansun (talk) 16:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou Maquahuiti

to care me with your generous reply. very soon I will give you a url link. this will carry few news of Hindi News Papers. As you are brillaint in Hindi I would like you to translate them in English & post them on my discussion page. If you feel you can also email me the same or save with you where you can post the translation if they get deleted in process of editing /improving / cleanup.I need you to stand up beside me and help me as a wiki friend who help and share knowledge growth True & Sincere regards once again to U. Naaamaste --Dralansun (talk) 19:22, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No i am not an Indian

=I am an Irish-English= . But love India & Hindi language ‘tum kha ja rahe ho, tum khan se ho ? kahan javoge? tum musalman ho? Yaan Hindu ho ? …vagira vagira’. I frequently visit India. From last 12 months I am in India. I went to my native only for formality to extending visa. I love to learn meditation and track Himachal. I read Buddha, went Matlodgunj. Manali,Kashmir. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dralansun (talk • contribs) 19:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But I live and brought up among Indian-South Hall,close by is Hounslow, in London near Heathrow aiport. But I love the multiculture of India. Their sense of wisdom, love, feeling emotions are different from us. They are helpful, they empathy other's culture, country equally. I saw Gadar. starring Actor 'Sunny Dwel' . I am found of Hindi movies , they dance around well & tree. I understnad Hindi. but i can't talk or write equally well. Shah rukhkhan & many are famous in UK. But I feel today they are going different way , young are imitating bad things about us. It's irony we love your culture & you love our's. what a funny world.....see i have posted a view - pls help me to circulate among your indian editors freinds in wikiprojects. I need you & good people like you--- I have read one author's work - I was highly impressed & still carried away with his novel thoughts. One journalist friend gave this book on my birthday. It was difficult so he read for me.I have so many Indian friends here but they are not good at translating or undestanding this critical subject.You see it's matter of interest. This book made my life more mad. There are many 'Bhhava Aartha'-meaning to be explored in this book as one say or see in 'Scriputre of Gita Saar'-Hare Krishna', Many authors have explored Sacred Gita with vivid visions, so I need brillaint persons like you... One Faizhaider is also teaming up with us. I expect more with your help.

read here what I wrote him

Dear Faizhaider,

Yes I want efficient editors friendly -generous like you who guide nut like me permanently just to improve. clean up enhance, guard my raised pages. The subject & research will surely interest and amuse you & change your life of thinking on humanism . Reg: Translation of Hindi, soon I will post a url link here & also on my talk page. You click on it & translate few news photo scanned /kept there. & thereafter if you don’t get bore we will journey on a small 31 pages book together on Hindi. The book is in capsulated size & the name of the book is 'Brhmaand Pujan'. Only few newspapers/ media journalists of India & wise religious people are fortunate to read this forbidden book- You will be among those few.( Book is non mythological, non superstitious & is absolutely non-religion). I believe it will change your perception for ever. Must your vision grow more in Allah's wisdom than his materialistic wealth. Thank you to join me as my pillar of strength. I love good people as I love my God & Guru. & the real God or Guru stay invisible. Their preaching & performance to beautify human kind is important not their idols or pix –either to fame/advt them to promote religion. The world should not come with one more professionalize religion - This is my Guru's says-.

Khuda Haafis .

--Dralansun (talk) 15:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)--Dralansun (talk) 15:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Taskforce

I would suggest the idea of a taskforce at the talk page of WP:India. By the way, almost all of the links to your template are functional. It seems like you could start applying the template. With regards, AnupamTalk 07:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to hear that people are not replying. You might want to consider just creating the workgroup yourself and let people join when they see the workgroup has been created. All you need to do is create this page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Uttar Pradesh. You can look at several of the other states' workgroups to see what content they have for examples here. Also, I thought you might find it interesting that User:Faizhaider has created Portal:Uttar Pradesh which is formatted very nicely, including several nice topics. I hope this helps. Khuda hafiz, AnupamTalk 17:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Maquahuitl. It is my hope that you will not get discouraged as you have plenty of good ideas and knowledge to share on Wikipedia. By the way, User:Tuncrypt is not a administrator but a regular such as you or I. Encyclopædia Britannica has an article on the Hindustani language as given here. According to the Encyclopædia Britannica article for Urdu, "Urdu originally derived from Hindustani, the lingua franca of northern India before the partition." The Hindi article on Encyclopædia Britannica makes a similar statement. In addition, the dictionary definition of Urdu (two of four) states the fact that Urdu is "a language derived from Hindustani" or that is is "official language of Pakistan, 1796, from Hindustani". The dictionary definition of Hindi also states that Hindi is "a literary language derived from Hindustani". Wikipedia works by a Verifiability policy which means that content is approved for articles if it can be buttressed by reliable sources. Encyclopædia Britannica, among various dictionaries linked above are accurate. From my understanding and research, your claims are correct: both Hindi and Urdu are standard registers of Hindustani, the common language of the Indian subcontinent before the partition. After the partition, these registers were standardized by the governments of India and Pakistan. I am of the same opinion of you on this issue. The template was accurate and I do not understand why it was deleted as well. It provided a great way to link the language articles together. Before the partition of India, Hindustani traces itself back to Hindavi. I personally wrote that article and I believe it explains the history of the pre-partition lingua franca quite well. Another reputable source from North Carolina State University, "Because day to day Hindustani was essentially a widespread Indian lingua franca not associated with any particular region or class, it was chosen as the basis for modern Hindi, the national language of India. Modern Hindi is essentially Hindustani with a lexicon of Sanskrit-derived vocabulary in preference to the Persian borrowings of literary Urdu. Likewise, Hindustani in its Urdu form was adopted by Pakistan as a national language because Urdu is not tied to any of the regions comprising modern Pakistan. Thus a language which is really nobody's mother tongue is today the second most spoken language in the world, understood throughout most of the populous Indian subcontinent and in many unexpected corners of the globe." I hope this information helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 21:34, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed that another user, User:Kwamikagami supported the template and found it to be useful too. With regards, AnupamTalk 00:50, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  1. If you check my recent post, you'll see that I've already pointed out the definitional problems related to the term Hindustani, and it looks like that here that Britannica is using the first listed definition, that of Hindustani = Khari Boli. Furthermore I go on to state the unavoidable definitional problems related to the term Hindi. For example, it seems that Britannica and the dictionary don't distinguish between Hindi as a composite of dialects and Modern Standard Hindi, as standardized register of one dialect, Khari Boli. In terms of separate pages, Wikipedia doesn't either, describing both in a single Hindi page.
  2. You are working on a flawed principle. The fact that Urdu and (Modern Standard) Hindi are registers of "Hindustani" (when defined as =Khari Boli) doesn't support a "Topic related to Hindustani language" template. Just because thing B derives from thing A doesn't mean that it remains wholly subsumed under thing A. This along with all the other stuff I've said.
  3. It's funny that you should speak so innocently about verifiability, as if I'm someone lacking such an understanding. If anything, it's you who should be reminded that encyclopedias and dictionaries are secondary sources, based on more primary sources, and that they can lack nuance, even accuracy. The primary reviews which I possess and base my linguistic opinions and contributions on are these three: Cardona, George & Dhanesh Jain (2003), The Indo-Aryan Languages; Masica, Colin (1991), The Indo-Aryan Languages; Garry, Jane & Carl Rubino (2001), An encyclopedia of the world's major languages, past and present.
  4. Either way, when all's said and done, there is no reason to fret. It's only a Hindustani-named template that I oppose, not templates for this topic in general. User:Kwamikagami's support was along these lines, supporting the usefulness of a template, whatever it may be called, as I do. Hopefully that's basically what you want, and in that case my proposal is of two templates of Hindi and Urdu each, for all the reasons outlined in my recent post. They'd converge on a small number of things, but rightly and characteristically diverge on a larger number of other things. Tuncrypt (talk) 19:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ref:Taskforce for Hindustani

Hi !,
I saw your Taskforce for Hindustani talk on User Anupam's Talk page. I'll also like to help in this task.
Bye !
Sayed Mohd Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 13:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hindustani language template

Hi. I see that you have created a navigation box for "Topics related to Hindustani language". Now personally, or rather, factually, I think that such a template is not warranted. Here's why. 1) The name "Hindustani" lacks popular currency and is defunct in this regard. 2) The name lacks linguistic/academic currency on a scale the existence of such a template would purport. "Hindi", "Urdu", and "Hindi-Urdu" are what linguist use as descriptive names. 3) Furthermore, with regards to the definition of "Hindustani", discussion on it takes the form of an aside, with that of it as a facet of, a shared colloquial basis in between, the Hindi and Urdu that are being described, and not the other way around. Hindi and Urdu are not subsumed under the rubric of Hindustani. 4) Such a practice becomes only so much more inaccurate considering the extreme breadth accorded now to the term "Hindi", subsuming vast tracts of non-Khari Boli dialects and literary languages under it. 5) Finally, having already made my point either way, it still remains pertinent to point out the ridiculousness of categorizing Hindi and Urdu literature together, which is what the template does. The things that are "Hindi" and "Urdu" have equivalent grammars, similar histories, and similar phonologies. These are all things known and noted, whenever and wherever necessary. However positing a unity of literatures shows an utter lack of understanding of the fundamentals concerning that which Hindi and Urdu are and are not.

In summary, "Hindustani" is not a language but a term sometimes used in discussions of Hindi and Urdu– two things that, whatever their complexities and complications, are above all real, are accorded primacy in both popular and academic usage, and thereby are to be accorded primacy as such on Wikipedia. Your self-definition as an "enthusiastic novice" quite clearly shows, but luckily someone noticed. Your template should be deleted, and I am to be going about reverting all your additions of it. Tuncrypt (talk) 02:27, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New templates

Check my new posts here. I've made new templates. There are substantial differences, and the issue looks to be resolved. Tuncrypt (talk) 21:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Thanks

Hello Maquahuitl! You are very welcome. I apologize for the delayed reply. Yes, your points are indeed valid. What I meant by my sentence was that Hindavi was an earlier name for Hindustani. As for Urdu, keep in mind that the Urdu spoken in Pakistan today, is being standardized by their government, which is resulting in its absorption of more Arabic and Persian words (source). This distinguishes it slightly from the Urdu spoken before the partition of India. Thanks again for your link as well. I found it to be useful. With regards, AnupamTalk 06:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, the project can still be fruitful, given the large amount of people interested in the subject. With regards, AnupamTalk 01:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I invite & seek Translation of News-Reviews from the below site

Brhmaand Pujan

http://brhmaandpujan-news-reviews.tripod.com/

Which can be used only for 'Fair Purpose' Translation- Hindi to English & other languages too. This site would be updated time to time, Meanwhile, I invite the research editors team, seeking & extending your ‘Individual Translations’ help-support –‘all or any’ one after another, If some pictures or words are not visible or too small to read, In such condition, you may temporary save them in your computer’s folder/files and then magnify & view them on your monitor screen. After translating them, your good self can post them on my talk page with exact & accurate details.

However, the name of the News Papers , Date of publications, Title of News / Reviews , along with the matter is important. Thank you heartily, in anticipation. --Dralansun (talk) 16:48, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Maquahuiti could your goodself pls spare time

I request to find time & help this stub, orphaned article grow with link-ups Brhmand Pujan & See what ever you can translate & add from below site which display news and reviews in Hindi from some of the leading Hindi News Papers of India

http://brhmaandpujan-news-reviews.tripod.com/ (For Fair Use Only)

--Dralansun (talk) 10:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category- dialects of Hindi and Hindustani

I searched for deletion log to find reason for deletion of these category pages but was unable to trace any.

I am now also wondering why these categories were deleted. Is there any issue? As per my knowledge Hindi/Hindustani is categorised into different dialects as other languages we have local words also for them i.e. boli(बोली) and this categorization is official.

Can I know what were the previous issues due to which these categories were deleted?

--Sayed Mohd Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 04:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


As per my knowledge and studies(I myself belong to Hindi belt and have had Hindi as my Subject for 15 years including Prose, Poetry & Language) Hindi academicians use word boli(बोली) i.e. dialect and not bhasha (भाषा) i.e. language for different local variant of Hindi.

--Sayed Mohd Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 07:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As per Institute of Linguists there is nothing like dialect and every variant is a different language, then all the variations in any language whether it is Hindi, Urdu, Kannada, German, English, etc can be splitted up into n languages.

Regarding khariboli and brajbhasha I will say that they are names and we can't conclude qualities on basis of meaning of name.

Regarding Hindi and Hindustani I will say that Hindi is more formalised language guarded by formal rules of grammar, script, etc while Hindustani is spontenous language of masses across Doab region from last 200 years initially it was blend of Urdu, Persian, Hindi and later English also mixed into it. Hindustani is the actual language used in Bollywood and for communication between people of different regions.

--Sayed Mohd Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 13:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hindustani has been lingua franca of Northern India right from later Mughal period thru British period to modern days, the picture became little bit distorted due to event of split of Hindustan into India, Pakistan and later Bangladesh with each country taking Hindi, Urdu & Bangla respectively to their helm replacing Hindustani as medium of comunique. During British time Hindustani was standard instrument of communication in Northern India for Bengal Presidency, NWFP, Sindh, Rajputana etc. i.e. whole of todays Pakistan, Northern India, Western India and Central India at that time more than 75% of British Indian Empire, initially script was Nastaliq later Devnagiri also got place but this was only difference in script and not in words (british documents, stamps and coins are good example of this). So Hindustani is not khariboli but is much broader then that.

Sayed Mohd Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 12:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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Whats up with UP WP?

I want to help out. KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 13:28, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UP WP= WikiProject Uttar Pradesh. --KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 07:03, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hindi Template

I found inconsistency at two locations - Varieties and registers of Hindi and Hindi topics. I agree with what you are saying. If Bihari languages are not Hindi then it should be updated in all the articles. Manoj nav (talk) 05:43, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Actually it's neither agreed socially nor linguistically. It's just that these languages have not been given official status and the education system (run by the government) teaches that these languages are dialects of Hindi. So even many educated people are unaware of the fact that Bihari languages are not Hindi. This has been politically motivated to unite India with a common language - Hindi, at the cost of regional languages. There are many references. I think this should be included in the article here. Manoj nav (talk) 06:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Awadhi is also influenced by Magahi, its language to the east

I read this sentence - "Awadhi is also influenced by Magahi, its language to the east.", in the article - Awadhi. Are you aware of it and if so, do you have more information about it? Manoj nav (talk) 06:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the information and the advice. We are trying to write articles related to Bihar. I have already started contributing for some of the articles - Bihar, Patna, Bihari Lamguages and more .. Apart from these we also plan to write new articles on Bihar covering specific topics like flood, famine, agriculture, economy, rivers, transportation systems, languages, naxalism, politics etc. Manoj nav (talk) 08:28, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal

I have following proposals for Northern, Eastern and Central India's map. There are many references which say that Bihar is in eastern India.

File:North-India-locator-1.png
Northen India
Eastern India
File:Central-India-locator.png
Central India

References-

Manoj nav (talk) 16:35, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In a recent edit, you changed one or more words from one international variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Wikipedia articles.

For subjects exclusively related to Britain (for example, a famous British person), use British English. For something related to the United States in the same way, use American English. For something related to other English-speaking countries, such as Canada, Australia, or New Zealand, use the appropriate variety of English used there. If it is an international topic, use the same form of English the original author used.

In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to the other, even if you don't normally use the version the article is written in. Respect other people's versions of English. They in turn should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Wikipedia articles are written can be found in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. If you have any queries about all this, you can ask me on my talk page or you can visit the help desk. Thank you. ~Pip2andahalf 06:59, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uttar Pradesh Map

Thanks for the prompt, I have corrected the map; you may have a look onto it. Thanx again. -Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 06:19, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you posted the language map anywhere? So that we can have review & discusion over it; its better if its done at workgroup level. I'll be waiting to see the map. --Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 06:22, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Map looks good, altough I think we would need some sources to proof authenticity of language distribution depicted in this map(to some extent). It has watermark of Maps of India that makes it probable candidate for deletion. You can use blank version of map used by me for regions of Uttar Pradesh i.e Image:UP region map.gif(I can send it to you thru mail but not before monday), or I can do the map myself & upload newer version in place of current one; as you wish.-Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 07:33, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have uploaded new version of the language map, plz have a look.--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 19:42, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You are absolutely right about the small regional inaccuracies especially in case of Allahabad, but to depict these small variations we'll need very detailed map and sources strong enough to make such map. So far I'm unable to get hold of good sources.--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 06:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok.--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 08:07, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kanpur

Thanks for pointing that out --Maurice45 (talk) 17:10, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re:References for wikipedia articles

Namaste Maquahuitl. I sincerely apologize for the delayed reply. For some reason, I neglected to see your first message to me. From my understanding, English sources are preferred on English Wikipedia. If no English sources are available, I think it would be okay to use Hindi sources for now. However, you can read the official policy here. Best of luck in writing the article bhai. With regards, AnupamTalk 19:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I understand. User:Enric Naval left a comment on my talk page here that might be helpful to you. With regards, AnupamTalk 23:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits on Uttar Pradesh

Recently few Users have massively revamped Uttar Pradesh article. Although any positive edits are welcomed but large scale revisions and revamps are advised to be done after discussion and consensus especially on articles of priority. As you have are member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Uttar Pradesh you are invited to participate in discussions on talk:Uttar Pradesh

--Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi (talk) 10:56, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject India Newsletter, Volume IV, Issue 1 – June 2009

Project news
Congratulations to the West Bengal workgroup for having their flagship article featured on the Main Page! The Indian states workgroup is also involved in maintaining articles about India's states and union territories. »

WikiProject Indian roads was recently started as a new workgroup, to standardize and improve articles related to Indian roads, mainly the National and State Highways. After all, India has the second largest road network in the world.

Iravan, the son of Arjuna, is now our 85th good article. How do we know this? Since last year, more processes have been automated, increasing productivity. Article alerts update the project with what's happening to India-related articles, from copyright violations to featured article candidates.

To do…
During the last few weeks, peer reviews for the recent general election and 2003 Afro-Asian Games (held in Hyderabad) were opened and are waiting for more comments, as are several articles at the peer review department. Sikkim has been nominated for FAR, and Hastings Ismay, 1st Baron Ismay has been nominated for FAC. »

Currently, 11,091 Indian articles need images. Please improve these pages, especially if you enjoy photography! We look forward to more contributions from you. To get started, go to the noticeboard. »

From the editors…
The last newsletter was written a year ago. In June 2008, Indian Premier League was "hot" on Wikipedia, but the article about this year's IPL has attracted 477 editors, or 53% more than the previous year! Even the number of articles in the scope of our project jumped by a whopping 18,500+ articles in an year. The 3.2-year-old India quiz continues to attract old and new Wikipedians, so join in the fun!

Wikipedians are organizing a meetup in Bangalore on July 4 or 5. If you are interested, head over to the page and add your name! Topics of discussion include Indian language editions of Wikipedia and Wikimedia India.

RegentsPark, one of the prominent members of our project, was promoted to adminship this year. If you'd like to know who are the most avid editors of Wikipedia by number of edits, refer to this list.

"While this issue has been resolved, one asks the question – what happens when there is a conflict of opinions? What about a Wikipedia entry on India and Pakistan, or the LTTE and the Tamils? Who can edit? Will the information be true?" writes B. Narasimhan of MiD DAY as deeper implications of the Scientology arbitration case,1 reminding us of the core principles of verifiability and the neutral point of view.

This is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue. Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!

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WikiProject India Newsletter, Volume IV, Issue 2 – July 2009

Project news
A number of India-related articles have lost their featured article status, including Sikkim and Mumbai. The article about Gandhi was also demoted for referencing and image quality issues. Since then, Mumbai has been brought back to good article status, thanks to the efforts of Kensplanet and others.

Transport in India was promoted to good article status, thanks to the efforts of Rsrikanth05, SBC-YPR and GDibyendu.

Several new workgroups have been formed: WikiProjects Railways in India, Education in India and Transport in India. Please join us if you're interested in those topics!

To do...
The articles that have been selected for our latest collaborations of the month are history of Mumbai, Indian Railways, rail transport in India, Indian general election, 2009 and telecommunications in India. We need your help to improve them!

These India-related articles are currently on featured article review: Kerala (FAR), Brihanmumbai Electric Supply and Transport (FAR) and rail transport in India (FAR). Would you allow these articles to lose their FA status?

Wikipedia Takes Chennai – a scavenger hunt and free-content photography contest – has started in Chennai, along the same lines as Wikipedia Takes The City.

We look forward to more contributions from you. To get started, go to the noticeboard. »

From the editors...
Wikipedians in Bangalore organised a meetup on 5 July 2009; thanks to Tinu Cherian for hosting the event! Arunram and Tinu Cherian wrote extensively about the meetup, which was also covered by Wikizine, Headlines India and The Wikipedia Signpost. Photos have been uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Sunil Abraham from the Centre for Internet and Society has offered to help host such events in the future. All in all, the meetup was a great success. Watch out for the next meetup! »

Nichalp, an Indian bureaucrat and major contributor to more than 23 India-related featured articles and lists, was desysopped over allegations of paid editing and using sock puppets. An RfC about paid editing was opened as a result of this incident.

A prolific editor and administrator, Bhadani is among the top ten Wikipedians by number of edits across the English Wikipedia. Congratulations to Bhadani for also making the most number of edits among Indian Wikipedians!

Are you subscribed to wikimediaindia-l to learn about the latest developments of forming the Indian chapter of Wikimedia? Did you know that there are IRC channels for Wikipedians interested in India like you? Check them out at #wikipedia-in connect and #wikimedia-in connect!

Wikipedia's India quiz remains a hotspot of the community by continuing to attract old and new Wikipedians. You are invited to join in and have fun!

This is your newsletter, and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue. Any and all contributions are welcome – so feel free to join in! Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!

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WikiProject India Newsletter Volume V, Issue no. 1 - (June 2010)

Project News

WP:IND Newsletter is back! It's been nearly a year since the last edition, but we hope to bring out issues on a more regular basis now. The India Wikiproject was set up to increasing coverage of India-related topics on Wikipedia, and over the past few months the focus has been on improving article quality. A number of the project's featured articles underwent featured article reviews over the past year. Of these, Darjeeling and Flag of India survived the review process, while the rest were demoted. During the same period, Gangtok, Harbhajan Singh, Darjeeling and Mysore were featured on the main page respectively on August 20, September 17, November 6 and December 29, 2009. Meanwhile, articles on topics as diverse as Political history of Mysore and Coorg (1565–1760), Marwari horse and Iravan were promoted as featured articles, and respectively appeared on the main page on March 25, May 17 and May 28, 2010. Consequently, the number of FA-class articles under the project's scope dropped from 67 in August 2009 to 63 in June 2010. The number of good articles, however, saw a more than 40% increase, from 91 to 130 during the same period, while the number of featured lists saw a 33% increase from 12 to 16.

Due to the recent policy changes regarding unreferenced Biographies of Living People (BLPs), an effort was started in January 2010 to source all unreferenced BLPs coming under Wikiproject India. 1200 such articles were identified initially and more were added to the list later. Due to the sourcing effort, the number of Indian unreferenced BLPs is down to 565 currently. During February-April 2010, There was a large scale disruption of Kerala related articles by a Thrissur based IP vandal. Editing from a dynamic IP BSNL connection, the vandal changed dates of birth, death and ages of a number of Malayalam and Tamil film actors. Later he added a few international biographies to his list. He also marked some living people like Arvind Swamy as dead. A month long range block was imposed on his IP range two times and each time he came back to vandalise dates once the block expired. Currently the range has been blocked for three months till September 11, 2010.

What's New?
Current proposals and discussions
  • A discussion is underway here to reach a consensus regarding the use of Indian number names (lakh, crore etc.) in Wikipedia articles. Please participate and add your comments.
  • A discussion is in progress here in order to determine whether non-Western (including Indian) forms of classical music should be referred to by the nomenclature of art music instead of classical music. Please participate and add your comments.
  • Watchlist the Articles for Deletions page for India related discussions. Opinions from more Indian Wikipedians are required in many of the discussions.

If you've just joined, add your name to the Members section of WikiProject India. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!

Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 2 – (July 2010)). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!

Looking forward toward more contributions from you!
Complete To Do List
Complete To Do List
Signed...
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WikiProject India Newsletter Volume V, Issue no. 2 - November 2010

English WikiProject News

After a missed issue, the WP:IND newsletter is back on track to being a regular bimonthly feature. The Indian WikiProject has seen plenty of online and off-line action, both in English as well as other Indian languages, and we now have a bigger, better format that intends to feature content and news from the English as well as other Indian language Wikipedias.

Reaching out to Indians has been the theme of the Indian Wikiproject over the past couple of months, aiming to involve a greater number of Indians in editing both the English and Indian language Wikipedias. To this end, efforts to set up the Indian chapter of Wikimedia have moved into their final stages, and registration of the society is currently pending. An effort is underway to push for "WikiMarathons" at meetups, where attendees will be encouraged to edit the English and/or Indian language Wikipedias. This is intended to popularise Wikipedia editing among the general public. In addition, a bot to post DYK's from the Indian Wikiproject to Twitter was created and launched by User:Logicwiki.


What's New?

Regrettably, the number of Featured Articles has dropped from 63 in June to 58 at the end of October 2010. Several FAs came up for review and were delisted, while Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India was saved. Meanwhile, Chalukya Dynasty appeared on the main page on July 9, 2010. Hearteningly, the number of Good Articles increased from 130 to 136 during the same period, while the number of Featured Lists remained constant at 16.

The source code for the Article Alert Bot is now available and the bot itself is expected to be up and running very shortly. This means that article alerts for the Indian Wikiproject will again be available, enabling editors to easily keep track of developments in respect of reviews, nominations, deletions etc.

The date change vandal mentioned briefly in the previous issue made a reappearance when the range block on his IP range expired in September. Consequently the block was extended till September 2011.

In October there was a heated discussion in the India project noticeboard regarding the copyright status of the Indian party symbols. The discussion was triggered by the deletion of Wiki San Roze's party symbol images by Hammersoft as copyright violations. No resolution was reached, partly because of our inability to explain to Hammersoft how election symbols in India differ from party logos. Comments are requested from anyone with a background in Indian copyright law to clarify this issue.

Complete To Do List
Complete To Do List
News from Indian-language Wikipedias
  • The Bengali Wikisource, which contains the literary works of many prominent writers of Bengali language including Rabindranath Tagore, has crossed the 5,000 pages milestone. According to List of Wikisource page, Bengali Wikisource is now at rank 21 among 56 Wikisource based on number of content pages.
The Tamil Wikipedia stall at the World Classical Tamil Conference 2010 in Coimbatore in June 2010.
Jimmy Wales introduces the Malayalam Wikipedia CD of 500 selected articles during his key note address at Wikimania 2010 at Gdansk.
  • The Hindi Wikipedia and its sister wiki projects migrated to the new vector interface on September 1, 2010. In addition, Hindi is the first (and so far the only) Indian language to be incorporated into the WikiBhasha translation and contribution toolkit developed by Microsoft Research.


Community news
The first meetup in Delhi on 22 September 2010.

Mumbai and Delhi held their first meetups in September, where Wikimedia Board members Barry Newstead and Bishakha Datta met up with Wikipedians and other interested members of the public in these cities. A month later, Hyderabad also held its first meetup.

Arun Ram, Shiju Alex and Barry Newstead releasing the Wikimedia India community newsletter at the nineteenth Bangalore meetup on 24 September 2010.

Wikipedians in Bangalore continued their tradition of meeting up regularly at the Centre for Internet and Society, with the nineteenth meetup in September featuring Barry and Bishaka as attendees, and marking the release of the community newsletter. Along with Delhi and Mumbai, Bangalore is reported to be one of the three cities in contention for the Indian office of the Wikipedia Foundation.

Jimmy Wales speech at the Mumbai Wikipedia Meetup #3 on 31 October 2010. Intro by User:Bishdatta & User:Arunram. (Recorded by User:AshLin.)

Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales had an interaction with Wikipedians followed by a presentation to members of the public at the third Wikipedia meetup in Mumbai on October 31, 2010.

The first Wikimarathon, where Wikipedians and members of the public were encouraged to contribute to Wikimedia projects onsite, was held simultaneously at the meetups in Bangalore and Chennai on November 14, 2010. Wikipedians in Delhi also held a meetup the same day.

The Malayalam Wikipedia held several academies in different parts of Kerala over the past few months.

Wikimedia Foundation board member Bishakha Datta and Indian Wikipedian Srinivas Gunta co-authored a panel presentation at Wikimania 2010 on the Wikimedia Asia Project.

Current proposals and discussions
  • This interesting discussion on the quality of editing in India-related articles has been underway for on the noticeboard a few days. Feel free to join in and express your opinion.

If you've just joined, add your name to the Members section of Wikipedia:WikiProject India. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!

Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue. Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!

Signed...

SBC-YPR, Sodabottle (Editors)

Tinucherian (Distributor)


This newsletter incorporates content from the WikiMedia India Community Newsletter, September 2010.

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Invite to WikiConference India 2011


Hi Maquahuitl,

The First WikiConference India is being organized in Mumbai and will take place on 18-20 November 2011.
You can see our Official website, the Facebook event and our Scholarship form.

But the activities start now with the 100 day long WikiOutreach.

As you are part of WikiProject India community we invite you to be there for conference and share your experience. Thank you for your contributions.

We look forward to see you at Mumbai on 18-20 November 2011

WikiProject India Tag & Assess 2012 Contest

Hello friends, we are a number of editors from WikiProject India have got together to assess the many thousands of articles under the stewardship of the project, and we'd love to have you, a fellow member, join us. These articles require assessment, that is, the addition of a WikiProject template to the talk page of an article, assessing it for quality and importance and adding a few extra parameters to it.

As of March 11, 2012, 07:00 UTC, WikiProject India has 95,998 articles under its stewardship. Of these 13,980 articles are completely unassessed (both for class and importance) and another 42,415 articles are unassessed for importance only. Accordingly, a Tag & Assess 2012 drive-cum-contest has begun from March 01, 2012 to last till May 31, 2012.

If you are new to assessment, you can learn the minimum about how to evaluate from Part One of the Assessment Guide. Part Two of the Guide will help you learn to employ the full functionality of the talk page template, should you choose to do so.

You can sign up on the Tag & Assess page. There are a number of awards to be given in recognition of your efforts. Come & join us to take part in this exciting new venture. You'll learn more about India in this way.

ssriram_mt (talk) & AshLin (talk) (Drive coordinators)

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