Talk:Julian Huxley

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Failed GA

This article failed to become a good article due to lack of references. --Pagrashtak 03:53, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For consistency, there should be a photo for Julian in the main article, like there is for Andrew. In fact there is none for Aldous?!

Phrenology

Was it not Julian Huxley, who was a total racist and phrenologist? --Nemesis1981 20:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you tell us. How was he racist and what was his interest in phrenology, and what are your sources? --Dannyno 13:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake. It was not Julian, who was a phrenologist, but he is in the family tradition. I will write more on him soon, with all relevant sources. --Nemesis1981 20:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eugenetics secion

"Lysenkoism was dangerous because it stopped the artificial selection of crops on Darwinian principles, which eventually led to famine." If you follow the link on Lysenkoism the article seems to imply that Lysenkoism was in response to the famine and found its support in part as being a response to famine not so much as a contributing factor. This makes this sentence ambiguous - is it Lysenkoism or artificial selection "which eventually led to famine?" I don't have the background or knowledge to alter this in the article, but am bringing it up for someone who does. —Emnipass 15:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)Emnipass[reply]

The Huxley's family tree and other members, notably Francis Huxley

There is a book called The Huxleys, by Ronald W. Clark that is all about this family, with a lot of information, and photos. I would like to add this information, with some help. I would also like to add another generation, including Francis, a well-known living anthropologist and author. Whom should I contact about this? --Daniel Schwab

Disambiguation

Do we really need the disambig link to a rugby player? It is very obtrusive, and interferes with the important intro text. I'm going to vanish it if no reply soon! Macdonald-ross 12:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Photos

I'm going to organise some photos of Julian Hux pre-1938 -- hence out of copyright -- from some of the biogs listed on the page. There's some tremendous post-WWII photos of Julian and Aldous: pity we can't use them! Macdonald-ross 14:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Now done. Macdonald-ross (talk) 13:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eugenics V-P and Pres

These positions are not paid appointments, and carry no executive power; therefore I'm taking them out of the intro and leaving them in the eugenics section. OK? Macdonald-ross (talk) 16:18, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GCHQ?

This must be shorthand for 'British Intelligence' in 1916. --Steve (talk) 07:59, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was someone's 'helpful' link! In WP, helpful but ignorant changes can be greater hazard than vandalism. This one slipped in under the radar; thanks for alerting us. Macdonald-ross (talk) 08:22, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Julian Huxley was an eugenicist

Julian Huxley, an eugenicist and signatorie of the Eugenics manifesto on September,1939.He was also a racist and a supporter of eugenics sterilization. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agre22 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This blog-like post adds nothing. The article contains an accurate and well-referenced account of JSH's eugenics beliefs and his anti-racist efforts for UNESCO. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:49, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article is clearly biased. Mentions on eugenics and racism are left to the very end of the text, leaving an impression of perfection on Huxley. That is made even worse by the fact that no comments on his racism are present on the introductory text. I will try and work that out. 200.180.231.36 (talk) 00:16, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Everything in the article is supported by references to reliable sources. Huxley's association with eugenics has its place in the article. However, his lasting importance as a biological scientist is correctly given precedence, and this is supported by his biographers. He was not a racist; his eugenics referred to "the lowest classes in society", which is not the same thing as racism. Whilst Director of UNESCO, as the text says:

"After the Second World War he was instrumental in producing the UNESCO statement The Race Question,[71] which asserted that:

"A race, from the biological standpoint, may therefore be defined as one of the group of populations constituting the species Homo sapiens"... "Now what has the scientist to say about the groups of mankind which may be recognized at the present time? Human races can be and have been differently classified by different anthropologists, but at the present time most anthropologists agree on classifying the greater part of present-day mankind into three major divisions, as follows: The Mongoloid Division; The Negroid Division; The Caucasoid Division."... "Catholics, Protestants, Moslems and Jews are not races..."

What's the intention of dropping this quote out of context? The Race Question is clearly anti-rasist. Download it and see for yourself. 195.67.45.178 (talk) 13:30, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have placed a brief factual statement of his allegiance to eugenics in the intro. Macdonald-ross (talk) 10:30, 24 July 2009

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Facts are facts. Julian Huxley was an eugenist as an ecologist. Both are the same thing. All eugenists and ecologist are ever bigoted, racists and charlatans. Julian Huxley was an eugenicist and among the signatories of the Eugenics manifesto on September,1939. He was also a racist and a supporter of eugenics sterilization. Facts are facts and that's all.Agre22 (talk) 12:55, 12 January 2010 (UTC)agre22[reply]