Wikipedia talk:Notability (geographic features)

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Shouldn't be considered for guideline status

Put me down as fundamentally opposed to making this a guideline. Nothing is intrinsically or inherently notable enough for a standalone article. If no reliable source cared to make sufficient comment about the place to satisfy WP:V's requirement that an article be based on independent third-party sources or the GNG, there's nothing to make an article out of. Permastubs with atlas coordinates aren't worth having.—Kww(talk) 18:55, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Until someone who lives in the subject has somewhere to start editing without registering and creating a new article. I say sure make it a guideline. Npmay (talk) 19:43, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Guidelines are not clear enough

Guidelines should be clearer to avoid wasting everyone's time. Deletion discussions such as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mishmar HaShlosha are an illustration of how time is being wasted in discussion instead of building up Wikipeida. It creates ill will and discourages wikipedians from adding much needed material.

The idea of reaching consensus may have worked when there were less people involved, but now I find I could easily spend all my time defending articles proposed for deletion, and not have any time left for constuctively building and adding (sorely needed) material.

Just my $.02. Ottawahitech (talk) 15:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Protected Area Notability

Is there consensus on adding Protected Areas to the list of generally notable geography?

WikiProject Protected areas has the following to say on notability:

The International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) defines a protected area as:
"An area of land and/or sea especially dedicated to the protection and maintenance of biological diversity, and of natural and associated cultural resources, and managed through legal or other effective means."
National parks are probably the best-known PAs, but there are many other categories. Protected areas are those which a higher level governmental entity manages, maintains and or oversees directly. For instance in the United States, this would include primarily federal and to a lesser degree, state managed areas, but rarely those managed by a county or city.

--Bamyers99 (talk) 17:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

America-Centric Guideline

This guideline, as it is currently phrased, is incredibly Amerocentric in particular, and Western-centric in general. Many (if not most) countries in the world do not have census efforts that are as extensive as those in Western countries, let alone published, and so "recognition by a government agency" might be incredibly difficult to come by, even in the case of a legitimately established location/municipality. This guideline should be completely rewritten with an eye on notability of locations in the developing world. Clarkefreak ∞ 18:03, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]