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In the right panel with country data, the GDP PPP value is correct but says its position is "(22nd)" when should say "(21st)" (Argentina took 21st place since 2011, leaving the Netherlands in 22nd) --201.253.57.22 (talk) 19:34, 21 April 2012 (UTC) Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.253.57.22 (talk) 05:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request on 15 April 2012

In the 'Dirty War' section it states that Argentina attempted to 'recover the [Falkland] islands'. This is technically incorrect, as the Falkland Islands were never taken from Argentina. 92.12.21.230 (talk) 23:35, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request

The link to Chile in the first paragraph goes to Antartica.--E1stettler (talk) 14:13, 5 March 2012 (UTC)Etienne[reply]

Hi, there should be a mention here about Kirchner's death in October 27 2010. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.189.191 (talk) 16:56, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Cambalachero (talk) 15:38, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, I'm not a member of wikipedia (and I'm sure that this is in the wrong section) (and this is unrelated to the edit request above, but I don't know where to put it), but I just wanted to say that the "Dirty War" section of this wikipedia entry either seems to have been written by someone who is not a native English speaker, or to have been copied and translated en masse from a non-English source using some online language translator. Incorrect grammar is used throughout, and I think it would be good to find the source and re-translate/edit it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.28.15.37 (talk) 01:31, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gini Index [Again]

Gini Index seems to be wrong again. In Argentina article, it marks 45.8 (2009; and it's wrong the notation too). In sub-article (Argentine Economy) it marks actually 0.379 (Q1 2011).

Sorry for my poor english. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Facundil (talk • contribs) 10:52, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Both articles use different sources. I'd say the first one (the CIA Factbook) is more reliable than the second one (INDEC), but I could be wrong. There are more sources in the list of countries by income equality.
In the meanwhile, I've corrected the format in this article. Is 'high' the correct category? --Langus (talk) 14:01, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm, I didn't found other source for gini index. I think that CIA Factbook gini index is too high and INDEC one is a bit low. For the correct category, I don't know but I think that is not high and not low the index. Gini index should be inter 0.39 and 0.42, I'll look for another source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Facundil (talk • contribs) 20:20, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The INDEC is not a reliable source for Argentine statistics, it is widely rejected (both domestically and internationally) for its indecent manipulation of that info. This goes beyond just critics at a disgruntled newspaper, even the IMF and Barack Obama critiziced this. See here for a small sample of political repercutions Cambalachero (talk) 16:13, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

INDEC is the official source for this data and it is not disputed on this matter (only in measuring inflation is). CIA factbook is usually politically biased and normally based on simple estimates. The INDEC one should be used. Is the official. Period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.109.12.14 (talk) 10:00, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 5 February 2012

Please change the Argentina Etymology, Argentina is Silverland in Latin.

190.183.11.5 (talk) 03:51, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 07:06, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it is derived from the Latin Argentum which means Silver so that would be Land of Silver and it is explained in the article. No need for changes. -- Alexf(talk) 21:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

who wrote this?

Could you provide a reference for your given affirmation about Cristina Kirchner ... "limiting the freedom of speech"  ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.18.114.95 (talk) 20:29, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Cambalachero (talk) 15:36, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean Rosendo Fraga (who is he?) is censored ? Could you please transcript the paragraph ? , I certainly would not buy this guy book to check this . Is there any global reliable source backing this claim ?

e.g. www state gov

2006 http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2006/78877.htm The independent media were numerous and active and, despite the government's confrontational attitude, expressed a wide variety of views without restriction. All print media were owned privately, as were a significant number of radio and television stations.

2011 http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2010/wha/154491.htm The independent media were numerous and active, expressing a wide variety of views. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.18.114.95 (talk) 23:28, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Freedom of speech has never been higher in Argentina. The new media law and the repealing of the old law concerning libel are proofs enough. I suggest user cambalachero stops mixing it's personal political opinions with wikipedia, which shouldn't be a political tool for propaganda, for either governement or anti-government use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.109.12.14 (talk) 10:07, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PORCENTAJE DE MESTIZOS??

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composici%C3%B3n_%C3%A9tnica_de_Argentina

LOS DE LOS MESTIZOS Y EUROPEOS ESTA TODO MAL, EN ARGENTINA MAS DE UN 56% TIENE ALGUN ANTEPASADO INDIGENA, PORLOTANTO MESTIZOS SON 56% !!! NOSE QUIEN CARAJO ESCRIBE EL ARTICULO, PERO ESTARIA BIEN QUE VIAJE A ARGENTINA, AL CONURBANO BONAERENSE, AL CHACO, JUJUY, SALTA... CAMBIENLO ENSERIO, LEAN FUENTES FIABLES, WIKIPEDIA TIENE QUE SER SERIA, Y EL ARTICULO QUE PUSE ES DE WIKIPEDIA, ASI QUE SE CONTRADICEN MUCHO!

No need to shout. Using foul language does not get your point across any better. Stating your opinion may be valid here, as long as you can produce reliable sources to back it up. Pointing to an article in Spanish Wikipedia does not make it any more reliable or verifiable. Please do not post in Spanish in the English language Wikipedia and please remember to sign your posts in talk pages with four tildes (~~~~). -- Alexf(talk) 11:12, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

jaja okey gracias amigo, esque nose hablar ingleees, pero soy argentino asi que lo que digo es bien fiable ;) GRACIAS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.88.59.1 (talk) 13:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Opinión sin fuentes no es fiable en WP. Si no escribes en inglés, serás bienvenido en Wikipedia en Español, donde también se necesitan fuentes fiables.


Argentina has more than 80% of European descendense, who wrote 61% it's wrong, Wikipedia must change that porcentage (we have the same levels as Uruguay), and thay guy that said thar Argentinians have indian blood, is making a mistake (he must love Che Guevara and love Cuba hehe). Please change that number, 61% is wrong. Thanks, Matías. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.58.51.235 (talk) 01:26, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop using "Argentine"

Why keep using this term? "Argentine" means "silvery" from the French word for silver. "Argentinian" (British Eng) or "Argentinean" (US Eng) are the correct words and have been for ages. Its only "media types" such as the BBC which have hijacked usage to "argentine". It is annoying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.128.137 (talk) 13:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's really not that simple. I don't know about the US, but in Britain both Argentinian and Argentine are used, indeed up until WW2 Argentine (and the associated "the Argentine" for the country) was used almost exclusively. Now its less clearcut but still not the case that Argentinian is used anywhere near being exclusively. Seeing beef or wine for example marked as 'Argentine' is nothing out of the ordinary. The OED I believe lists Argentine as the correct term for a citizen of the Argentine Republic (to use its full name, not the Argentinian Republic incidentally), while Argentinian is the adjectival form; in general though both are considered acceptable forms. - Chrism would like to hear from you 21:20, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This link might be of interest btw. - Chrism would like to hear from you 21:21, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Actually "Argentine" has been used as the demonym in en.Wikipedia since the beginning. There is nothing wrong with it and no reason to change that (and the thousands of existing references). It is not annoying (that would be POV) and certainly not pejorative like some other moniker used in English that we do not need to repeat. -- Alexf(talk) 21:24, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Latinobarometro...

Latinobarometro is not a credible source to cite as for the ethnic composition of the Argentinian population. How could "only" 61% of Argentinians have European ancestry (a percentage this even lower than that of the US) when the country's current population was totally shaped by massive European immigration in late XIX and early XX centuries??? 26% Mestizo and 3% Black, Mulatto or Amerindian simply aren't credible figures... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.171.153.130 (talk) 21:31, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am agree with the last comment, latinobarometro is not a credible source to cite as for the ethnic composition of the Argentinian population. How could "only" 61% of Argentinians have European ancestry (a percentage this even lower than that of the US) when the country's current population was totally shaped by massive European immigration in late XIX and early XX centuries??? 26% Mestizo and 3% Black, Mulatto or Amerindian simply aren't credible figures... I am argentinian and I never saw in my all life a black person in argentina, I have 17 year old, and in my class in the school are 27 people, 23 are white, the 85% of my class is white, in a public school. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.122.3.47 (talk) 03:52, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Ethnicity

Ok, I start by saying, as people above me, that Latinobarometro is not a believable source. I'm from Argentina and not me, my family, friends nor anyone from the town where I live were ever asked about what race we consider ourselves. I asked to people I know from nearby towns and cities and they said the same.

Now, the other issue: it says 61% white, 26% mestizo, 1% amerindian, 1% black and 1% mulatto. The thing is, that 26+1+1+1 is 29, and 100-29 isn't 61, it's 71. Also, I think it's impossible that 2% of the Argentine population might be afro, the fingers of my hands are more than enough to count how many afro people I've seen in my country in my life.

So what people here should do is, to put aside Latinobarometro and take other sources (that would be more advisable) or correct the percentage of white people which, I repeat, should be 71% instead of 61%, that's much more likely and closest to reality. --190.216.6.110 (talk) 18:49, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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INDEC as a source for GDP

The INDEC cannot be considered by any means a reliable source for establishing the current state of the Argentine economy, and manipulated figures should not be given any place in this article. They've been cooking their books for years now, I can produce any number of sources to prove it if necessary.--Ultimate Destiny (talk) 02:39, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's well known that INDEC is no longer reliable and has been for a few years manipulating numbers to present a better vire of Argentine economy than it truly is. I agree with you, Ultimate Destiny. You've done the right thing. --Lecen (talk) 03:49, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnicity (AGAIN)

Hey people, what's wrong with you? 61%+26%+1%+1%+1% is only 90%, where's the missing 10%? were 4 million Argentines taken by aliens? O, and by the way, Argentina is 21st in the list of GDP (PPP) according to the IMF, not 22nd. --190.216.6.110 (talk) 02:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnicity

I live in Argentina, I am argentinian, and I never saw a black in my all life, are more asian than blacks, MUCH more,so much more, is impossible that live in argentina 800000 blacks, and that i never saw one of them, is an stupid. Please, fix that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juani36 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Current Constitution

The Current Constitution is not the one enacted on May 1st, 1853, since it has been amended several times, instead, I think two events should be recorded, the enactment of the Constitution that created the Argentine Republic on May 1st, 1853, and the last amendment to it, on August 22nd, 1994.

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