Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Falun Gong 2/Evidence
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In response to Elen of the Roads' remark, I think it may be valuable for arbitrators to review the AEs that were filed, but I also wondered whether the length of them may have been prohibitive. I am currently condensing my evidence and putting into the prescribed template; hopefully that will make it easier for everyone involved. It would be OK to only consult the evidence I am submitting here. One thing though: since I am submitting evidence on three editors, I'm wondering if I might have a extension on the word limit (maybe in the 1600-word neighborhood)? The Sound and the Fury (talk) 14:03, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- If you believe that your evidence submission here is sufficient to replace what you sent to AE, then please be sure to specify that in your submission here (I'll leave a similar note on the main evidence page under Elen's note). As for the word limit, try to get what you can within the 1000-word limit, and then if you run out of room we can consider an extension then. Remember that the AE stuff will not count against your word limit. Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 14:32, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- I have mostly drafted it and it is already over 1000. It deals with the conduct of three editors over a pretty long period of time. The prose is minimalist. The evidence I submitted at AE was far longer, at around 4000 words and nearly 100 diffs. I am proposing reducing this a great deal and resubmitting it here, but I ask for around 1600. Wouldn't that be better than submitting 1,000 here and pointing everyone to another 4000, where much of the evidence will overlap? I would submit the 1600 here as final, once I receive permission to do so. Then it would not be necessary to consult the original AE (but arbitrators who wished to of course could). Please let me know. The Sound and the Fury (talk) 16:58, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe I wasn't clear, so I will ask my question in a simple sentence: I request permission to post about 1600 words of evidence, rather than about 1000. Do I have permission to do that? The Sound and the Fury (talk) 13:39, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay in responding, the last couple days have been a little hectic. I'll grant an exemption to allow you to post up to 1500 words; do please try to pare this down a little further if you can. I'm asking this because as a party to the case you already have an extension of sorts (up to 1000 words), and we will have quite a lot of text to sort through in this case. Keep in mind also that many diffs will speak for themselves and require little explanation. An evidence section formatted along these lines is perfectly acceptable and encouraged in evidence:
- Editor X repeatedly edit wars with hostile edit summaries: [diff] [diff] [diff]...
- Editor X responds to requests to stop edit warring with personal attacks: [diff] [diff] [diff]...
- I'll be sure the clerks are aware of the extension. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:00, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks Hersfold. I will keep this format in mind and go over my evidence carefully, and try to make it as concise as possible. The Sound and the Fury (talk) 17:42, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay in responding, the last couple days have been a little hectic. I'll grant an exemption to allow you to post up to 1500 words; do please try to pare this down a little further if you can. I'm asking this because as a party to the case you already have an extension of sorts (up to 1000 words), and we will have quite a lot of text to sort through in this case. Keep in mind also that many diffs will speak for themselves and require little explanation. An evidence section formatted along these lines is perfectly acceptable and encouraged in evidence:
- Maybe I wasn't clear, so I will ask my question in a simple sentence: I request permission to post about 1600 words of evidence, rather than about 1000. Do I have permission to do that? The Sound and the Fury (talk) 13:39, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
- I have mostly drafted it and it is already over 1000. It deals with the conduct of three editors over a pretty long period of time. The prose is minimalist. The evidence I submitted at AE was far longer, at around 4000 words and nearly 100 diffs. I am proposing reducing this a great deal and resubmitting it here, but I ask for around 1600. Wouldn't that be better than submitting 1,000 here and pointing everyone to another 4000, where much of the evidence will overlap? I would submit the 1600 here as final, once I receive permission to do so. Then it would not be necessary to consult the original AE (but arbitrators who wished to of course could). Please let me know. The Sound and the Fury (talk) 16:58, 7 June 2012 (UTC)