Talk:Election promise

New to Election promise, hope to add some information

Hello contributors of Election promise, I hope I don't step on any toes by adding information, I don't plan on deleting or changing anything you have all written in the short term. I just got done with a nasty edit war, and some of the people suggested that I put these historical facts about lies that presidents made about troop reductions on this page. I would love to add it to another page, but the vicious edit war has hampered this.Travb 07:43, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The additions are good, but I worry about this page becoming too focused on the United States. - SimonP 13:51, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the compliment, I would have loved to have built my own page, but that was unfortunatly stopped. Any suggestions? If the focus issue is a big concern, maybe you can move this section to another page with an appropriate title? Any suggestions are wonderful, as I mentioned, someone else suggested that I post here. Suggestions are always welcome!Travb 14:17, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe split the article in two? US and canada, with a short blurb about both here at Election promise? Just an idea...tell me what you think.Travb 14:18, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again Simon. Right now there seems to be no risk of the article become "Americanized". I had only a passing interest in the subject of election promises, and after about 6 hours of work on the subject of Nixon's promises, I have lost interest and will probably work on other topics/subjects for a a while.

I guess there is the possiblity of Election promise, or any wikisubject becoming too slanted in one direction because of a heavy focus on one subtopic. But I personally think this is something to optomistically look forward too, not be fearful off. I wish someday that some of my created pages will be overflowing with good encyclopedic content.

If this site does become to Americanized, we/you will cross that bridge when in comes. I just want you to know that I don't see adding much more to the page right now. Travb 09:26, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Election promise

The text is as follows:

In the 1968 Presidential elections, Richard Nixon did not use the phrase "secret plan", which originated with a reporter looking for a lead to a story summarizing the Republican candidate's (hazy) promise to end the war without losing. But neither did he disavow the term, and it soon became a part of the campaign. When pressed for details, Nixon retreated to the position that to tip his hand would interfere with the negotiations that had begun in Paris. ^[1]

According to one historian: "...it became obvious in 1969 that Nixon's "secret plan" to end the war was a campaign gimmick..."^[2]

Another historian wrote: "Nixon never had a plan to end the war, but he did have a general strategy--to increase pressure on the communists [and] issue them a November 1, 1969 deadline to be conciliatory or else...The North Vietnamese did not respond to Nixon's ultimatum...and his aides began planning Operation Duck Hook." ^[3]

Nixon admitted in retirement that no such plan existed before his election.^[4]

Although I appreciate edits to this information, all edits must be Wikipedia:Verifiability. If Nixon said he had no plan, in 1968, then find a verifable source which states this, and I will gladly accept this in the article. Otherwise unfortunalty, this is unsubstantiated POV, which does not meet the standards of Wikipedia:Verifiability.

more soon

Signed:Travb 18:43, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]