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Time

What time is the ceremony supposed to start? The article neglects to mention it.Tad Lincoln (talk) 02:55, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]


#JustOneMinute

Why there's no mention of the controversy regarding the Israeli request for a minute of silence to remember the Israeli athletes and the German police officer killed in Munich to take place at the opening ceremony? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.135.223.117 (talk) 18:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Because no one has yet added that information citing a reliable source.--Shantavira|feed me 13:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
also because these olympics have nothing to do with a past games event that few remember, which is why it was not mentioned. Only the british dead of 2 world wars were indicated via 3 soldiers from WW1 + the london bomb dead by muslim terrorists in 2005.

VC 05:51, 28 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vcorani (talk • contribs)

It's been ignored because the IOC is strongly against it being mentioned, for political reasons.--Nitsansh (talk) 08:35, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

frank turner at opening ceremony

i was wondering if it would be possible to put a mention to frank turner performing at the mosh pit end of the ceremony, he is one of the hardest working artists in british music, and is a perfect example of, if you work hard enough you will achieve. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-2179821/London-2012-Olympics-Opening-Ceremony-LIVE.html scroll down to 20:44 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.26.16.117 (talk) 20:28, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

paul

Paul McCartney also sang the end of 'The End' by the Beatles, this is missed off the article. And it was also where he should have ended his performance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacknunn (talk • contribs) 00:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cost

What is the cost of the opening ceremonies? Apparently Beijing cost 100 million. I heard London spent much less.21:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TurtleMelody (talk • contribs)

£27 million ($US 42 million) according to this source, although I'm not sure I would treat it as gospel. Formerip (talk) 01:30, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Songs

I remember hearing Eclipse during the fire ceremony. Libido (talk) 01:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jadailykc (talk) 02:14, 28 July 2012 (UTC)Staying Alive, by the Bee Gees;West End Girls, by pet shop boys;Uprising, by Muse;A Message to you, Rudy, performed by The Specials; Bohemian Rhapsody, by Queen Jadailykc (talk) 02:14, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Emeli Sandé

Surely, some mention should be made of Emeli Sandé's performance of Abide with Me, given that all other solo performers get a mention. Skinsmoke (talk) 02:23, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Split into sections?

I think the article should be further split into sections: Pandemonium/Industrial Revolution, Happy and Glorious (James Bond escorting the Queen), NHS/Great Ormond Street Hospital/Peter Pan/Kid Dream, Chariots of Fire, British Entertainment/Pop Culture, Sun Dance, and Lighting of the Torch. Think this is feasible with appropriate references.--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 03:36, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are there official names for all the sections? I've gleaned some from here. Might have to watch it again ...

--195.137.93.171 (talk) 05:31, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This implies 4 parts. Some tracks were cut/changed for the final version ? Might help someone. --195.137.93.171 (talk) 07:21, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This implies 3 parts ! Is it worth explaining the links to The Tempest ? --195.137.93.171 (talk) 08:53, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously we'll need reliable sources to expand on the sections / section names before adding to the main article, but there was a quiet bit in Pandemonium which was apparently a memorial to those who'd died in WWI and WWII; the winged cyclists part was probably symbolism for the release of doves of peace - originally real doves, it's now symbolism; and the mosh pits didn't really feature (perhaps they were supposed to be part of the 30 minutes that was cut from the ceremony at the last minute? That could also explain why the TARDIS materialisation sound effect during the "social revolution" segment wasn't followed up with an appearance of the blue box or Matt Smith.) Again, we'll need to hunt down reliable sources before adding to the main article though. Mittfh (talk) 09:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reception?

With other events there are normally quotes on what critics or dignitaries felt about the event as a whole. Has anyone found any solid sources or quotes that can be attributed? Mwheatley1990 (talk) 04:57, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Venue - Olympic Stadium

Article does not mention where the event took place: Olympic Stadium http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Stadium_%28London%29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.33.118.116 (talk) 05:05, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Queen's introduction and national anthem

While the paragraph is correct, to me it reads like the Queen in the Buckingham Palace piece may have been an actress, although it does not actually say that I wonder if it might be better worded with the following addition; "Bond escorted Queen Elizabeth (who played herself) out of the building"? We already have; "James Bond (played by current Bond actor Daniel Craig)", so it would seem to fit. --wintonian talk 07:50, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Including Burley's 'leftie multicultural' tweet

Hello. Venturing a personal opinion here, but given that Aidan Burley's tweet smacks of attention-seeking, rather than a considered review of the ceremony, should it be included here? I think highlighting the opinion of one MP is very much WP:UNDUE. -- IxK85 (talk) 08:33, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:UNDUE talks about the need for balance. Don't believe the comments by Burley have been given disproportionate coverage. His is just one of several comments available - good and bad. To remove it gives undue emphasis on favourable only reviews.--Egghead06 (talk) 08:43, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's not about emphasising positive reviews, it's about preferring a more articulate criticism than Burley tweeting 'crap'. Also, Burley's quotations are currently disproportionately long, at 29 words, compared with 8 words from The Times and The Daily Telegraph. A reasonable balance, per UNDUE, would be trimming Burley down to something like:
'British MP, Aidan Burley denounced the content of the ceremony on the social networking site Twitter as "leftie multicultural crap. Bring back Red Arrows, Shakespeare and the Stones."'
and dropping the second quote entirely, as his perception of leftishness is already expressed in the first quote. -- IxK85 (talk) 09:12, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done!--Egghead06 (talk) 09:18, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This MP's tweet is not notable, there are 650 MPs.. would we include all of their views on the ceremony? If it would have been a member of the government, it would be notable... .but not an mp. BritishWatcher (talk) 09:34, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notable in Wiki terms for verifiable and reliable sources such as major British newspapers, The BBC, Downing Street and Huffington Post all to report it.--Egghead06 (talk) 09:40, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bean or not Bean?

There is nothing saying that Atkinson was portraying Bean. I thought it was a reference to his famous concert pianist routine... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robbyduffy (talk • contribs) 09:59, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some photos are from rehearsal, not ceremony ...

NB 'SaveTheSurprise' on the big screens is a giveaway. Metadata says 25th not 27th, so no intention to deceive. The one photo from the 27th - young athletes lapping with the torch (incorrectly described as "entering the stadium") - is nominated for deletion. --195.137.93.171 (talk) 10:12, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Broadcast

How many people were estimated to have watched the event worldwide? I would like the page to mention that this opening ceremony was also broadcast in 3D. TurboForce (talk) 10:57, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The presenters

Who were the English and French presenters respectively? I think they should be mentioned in this article. Anyone knows them?--Coekon (talk) 11:21, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Negative coverage that might possibly be included in the article?

this is not a forum

This was just embarrasing and cringe-worthy, to be honest it was so hard to tell if it was even in London because all the dancers were non-white. If you look at other countries that celebrate the opening ceremony by showcasing their culture, heritage, and race ie, the Beijing Olympics. But London was just some multi-ethnic multicultural cesspool of rubbish, this just goes to show that Britain has no culture, no history, and no race. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.200.75 (talk) 12:35, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Long way from Australia to London I guess? London has a large 'non-white' population, as you put it. Having people from many races and cultures is therefore very representative of London today. --Egghead06 (talk) 12:40, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe so, but the overall feel of this opening ceremony was one of mediocrity. The dancers required no talent at all and more than often were uncoordinated. The so called humour of the ceremony was bland and most people outside of the English speaking world wouldn't understand. The events of the ceremony were also cringeworthy like the house covered with "best moments in british TV" with kids dancing in the foreground who obviously had not practiced it before. Also MARY POPPINS is AUSTRALIAN not British!!

For people wondering why I'm saying all of this, its because the tabloids have come out saying its the best opening ceremony in history, no it wasn't it was the most tacky and boring in history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.200.75 (talk) 12:52, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"She is blown by the East wind to Number Seventeen Cherry Tree Lane, London." Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:04, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Poppins is Australian though, I just found it funny that you tried to claim her and put it into the opening ceremony. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.200.75 (talk) 13:07, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the character claimed was the one from the true British 1964 musical film, played by Adelaide's very own Sheila Andrews. But which tabloid headline did you have in mind - "a masterpiece" (The Times) or "brilliant, breathtaking, bonkers and utterly British" (The Daily Telegraph)? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:14, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How about this one - London Olympics: The Most Embarrassing Opening Ceremony? http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/07/27/london-olympics-the-most-embarrasing-opening-ceremony/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.200.75 (talk) 13:28, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a vile and worthless red-top if ever I saw one. But "positively cringe-inducing" does indeed seem a worthy quote. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:34, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just read the comments to see how many people feel the exact same as I do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.200.75 (talk) 13:43, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not in dispute. But 77 reader comments against a Forbes column do not constituteWP:RS. Even the columnist, Anthony Wing Kosner, is not entirely negative. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:53, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The day we use the comment section of an opinion site as a judge of world opinion is a day we can no longer call ourselves civilised Mwheatley1990 (talk) 13:55, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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