User talk:Txcrossbow

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If you are leaving a question or comment about your ARTICLE FOR CREATION, please post your message at the bottom of the page or at the end of your most recent comment. Include the link to your page. CHEERS! - "Stella"

Welcome on board.

Thanks for fixing.  Boy am I red in the face. :-p   :- ) Don 01:25, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

(giggles) it happens!

Submission Declined - Stone Key Partners

Hello Stella and thank you for the review.

I'm wondering how I can remedy the following issue and get my first article published. Thank you very much for your help! "What you can do: Add citations (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners) to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject."

I've added two links to the New York Times (both of which are articles where the company is the subject of the article) plus links to Bloomberg and four links to Reuters. These are all very reliable, national, secondary sources and entirely independent from the subject. This bank is the largest Aerospace and Defense boutique investment bank in the world and is certainly notable to a lot of people.

Based on the criteria here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CORP), I provide the following arguments for notability.

1. Depth of Coverage- The New York Times, Wall St. Journal, Bloomberg, Reuters, the Washington Post and numerous others certainly feel that the company is notable. They have written significant articles on the company recently both on-line and in print publications.

2. Audience - these publications are national publications.

3. Interdependence of Sources- none of the cited sources (exception press release) have any relation to the company.

Thank you very much for your time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Stone_Key_Partners — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesr1978 (talk • contribs) 19:19, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

This is James again- you asked me to resubmit, which I did. Then someone else reviewed and declined. This is sort of getting ridiculous. Do I get a new reviewer ever time? How is that possibly helpful / efficient? Do I just resubmit until I find someone that agrees that an organization that is the topic of articles in the NY Times, Wall St Journal, Reuters, Bloomberg, etc. is notable. This seems arbitrary and illogical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesr1978 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

My apologies for the third decline. I will add it to my queue of priority articles to review/edit. Thank you for your patience and endurance. Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 03:31, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Self Made

Hi Txcrossbow.

I have been working on a submission which you declined due to the article potentially not being supported by adequate references. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Self_Made

I came to this page and replied to address the issue raised on the 14th of July and have been waiting to hear from you but my reply seems to have dissapeared from this page?

The issue as I believe was that you were of the opinion the article was not adequately supported by reliable sources. In the city of Canberra there is but one major newspaper, one music magazine and until recently one music based tv program. With "Big Dave" being from Canberra these are the most reliable sources available in this region that discuss the relevent topics and one link per outlet is included as reference.

On a larger scale the Dubcnn link outlines the deal between WIDEawake Entertainment and KP Records from the North American perspective. Dubcnn is seen as the Los Angeles authority on hip hop and there news and site content is respected in the hip hop genre.

The last link I supplied was to a youtube video. I understand that youtube is not all ways a reliable source but on this occassion the video features the making of the album including studio visits from the high profile guests. It was an official upload to the KP Records youtube channel.

Could you please take a look at my article and if you dont think it is supported by enough reliable sources then please advise me as to which sources are acceptable as reliable in the Canberra region and how I might go about completing this article for publishing on wiki.

Thank you for your help and patience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deanstokes (talk • contribs) 23:07, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

• • • • • • • Further discussion*******

Hi Txcrossbow.

I just noticed your referal to WP:NALBUMS on July 14. Im sorry I did not notice this yesterday. Thank you! That has cleared things up for me.

From reading that page and pages on notability (music) and general notability as off links to that page it looks as though my article is ready for publishing on wikipedia if you agree?

The album I have written about certainly meets the guidlines.

---"significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" - I have included links to independant and very reliable sources. "Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material"

--- "require a standalone article if it meets the General notability guideline" This album features the most notable guest list ever featured on an Australian hip hop release with platinum US based guests.

The release is also ground breaking in Australia due to the nature of the release. With Hip Hop being traditionally American it is the first distribution deal between and Australian and North American company in regards to Hip Hop music. This is part of the reason I used the dubcnn link as it is a reliable US based source to demonstrate the gravity of the deal. That article may well be the first time and Aussie has ever appeared on that site.

I hope this further discussion helps us move closer to publishing this article as I plan to elaborate on it prior and post release of the album if we can progress. If not I guess I'll try my hand at writing something else though I firmly believe as a hip hop fan and Australian music fan that this album needs a wiki article.

Thanks Tx!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deanstokes (talk • contribs) 02:30, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Suite 709

Hi Txcrossbow,

My argument for the musical group in my new article being notable is how they're working with Google, specifically in using Google+ Hangouts to broadcast live concerts. They're leading the charge with this online tool. One of their songs is featured on a national Google ad. I believe that addresses criterion #12. I understand if you seek more, though, and I appreciate any additional feedback on how to improve this article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Suite_709

Thank you, Cylver39 (talk) 06:46, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Hector Guerra

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/_Hector_Guerra Hello! First of all, I have never written or contributed for Wiki before so thank you for your patience with me. I see I need to change my first reference as it is the artist's own page. I am waiting for chart and sales info from itunes to add to my references to confirm the "#1 album on iTunes Mexico" and "#1 song on itunes Mexico" statements, but that will take 24 hours. I also could not figure out how to link the article to the "latin music" section, but I wanted to take care of the writing and make sure the work met the criteria first. Also, I am having trouble pulling english language information on this artist, but I found a huge list of Spanish print magazine articles he has been featured in. Unfortunately, this list includes many scanned-in glossy magazine articles without dates of publication, making it very difficult to source them http://www.entrelineasent.es/hectorguerra/HectorGuerraNewsEnglish.pdf . The most notable I could find was a section in the Spain edition of Rolling Stone, and I am trying to pull a reference for their 2007 nomination for Best New Music Act by Canal Latino TV. Hopefully these new references will meet the criteria for notability, and then I am just waiting on iTunes to confirm the chart positions. Please let me know if there are any suggestions or personal-favorite-tutorials you can recommend to improve my contributions. Thank you! CharissaCiudadanacinical (talk) 01:21, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Helena G. Wells

Hello, you declined the new article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Helena_G._Wells because 69 of the 71 reference links were from an internal wikipedia page.

The references from the wiki pages are for the television episode TITLES. In the article I wrote, I explained a situation from within the episode and then reference the episode title with the wiki link itself. I can remove every single one of those wiki links if necessary but then there is no way to reference the titles as all sources are deemed unreliable. I have found what may be reliable, not sure yet, but before I go and change every single reference in the article I wanted to double-check that it wasn't dismissed under the wrong impression.

I am not citing any other wiki page as reference for the material I wrote. I am referencing ONLY the tv episode list itself for the title of the episodes. Is this not appropriate?Electprogeny (talk) 04:06, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I just saw the note you left me on my talk page expressing the encouragement to use wikilinks instead of referencing wiki pages... I have used the wikilinks where appropriate in my article. Using wikilinks for the episode titles would be rather inappropriate as there are no wiki articles named after the television episodes. All I want to be able to do is reference the NAMES of the television episodes. I cannot do that in any way whatsoever that Wiki deems reliable? No use of IMDB for that, no use of wiki, no use of fan pages? Seriously? How does ANYONE ever reliably reference the NAME of a television episode if NONE of those sources are reliable sources?! I appreciate your time and assistance, I'm just seriously frustrated at the inability to reference the episode names appropriately. I have found a listing on the syfy.com website so I am changing 69 references to titles to point to syfy.com instead of wikipedia even though the titles are exactly the same in any list anyone on the planet might have.Electprogeny (talk) 04:57, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I've edited the titles so the references point properly, and the citation bot came along and helped reduce the number of repeated references (genius!). I've resubmitted, but did not know if I was supposed to remove the area at the top that said it had been declined and your initial comment to me so I left it there. Was that appropriate to do? Thanks for all your time and assistance! Electprogeny (talk) 05:39, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/SallySteele3

Previous versions Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sally Steele and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sally Steele (2) had insurmountable problems, but the second rejection was very broad, so I'm trying to help the submitter by going slow enough that the feedback is clear, like yours. While this is currently a currently a BLP, with scant citeable externally sourced biographic content, should I include the 2004 startup/20k copy/hosting annual award event for rock community, which I left out as promotional, or do you think that would better support turning this from a bio to an org on Vegas Rocks!? I'm sometimes on IRC as TheDruId, and find it a much faster venue for improvement discussions, if you'd be willing to contact me there, although either talk page is acceptable as always. Dru of Id (talk) 09:49, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Ian Anthony Stroud Dr.

Hi! I would like to know what exactly the problem is with the page I submitted about my stepded. The article doesn't have a link because it was declined and I can not find the reason for this, though you mention that your comments are visible. They are not. Thank you for replying a.s.a.p. Laslo (username:Rotozyn) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rotozyn (talk • contribs) 13:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Courtesy separated from my post above, linked referred-to article. Dru of Id (talk) 15:46, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Alexia Banks

Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Alexia_Banks

Hi Stella, I've updated my articles for creation for Alexia Banks with new sources. I also removed unsupported biographical info about the author / filmmaker. Do yo have any suggestions to help me get this article accepted? You declined the submission due to lack of reliable sources. I now have sourced: several motion pictures (one produced by Columbia Tristar), two Florida newspapers with a combined daily circulation of over 350k (The Miami Herald and Sun Sentinel), along with a novel published by F+W Media subsidiary Crimson Romance. Thanks for your help.

JeremyTuppins (talk) 22:55, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

You can go ahead and re-submit. I will pass on it and let a more experienced review decide if it is goo to go. Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 18:33, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Great. Thx.

JeremyTuppins (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

BETA tester!

Hi, I saw you the last week(s) very active at AFC and I believe you have CLUE and be some 'techie' and thus I want you as my primary 'beta tester'! What you have to do? Nothing except exchange the gadget(remove the check in the box) with my beta script (add to your skin following line: importScript('User:Mabdul/afc beta.js'); //beta script: User:mabdul/afc beta.js) and do 'some' reviews. Important: do test the new functionality related to biography articles when accepting and report your feedback at WP:AFCH/DEV. If you have any question, want some live talk, etc, come online at #wikipedia-en-afc ^connect. Regards, mabdul 22:01, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

HELP... I disabled the old script but I don't know what you mean by adding to my skin. Please advise Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 23:31, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Ups, sry, I didn't checked the links and thus didn't recognized that it is a redlink. Go to either your account's common JavaScript file or to your skin's JavaScript file: and add (without any leading whitespace):

importScript('User:Mabdul/afc beta.js'); //beta script: User:mabdul/afc beta.js

After saving, don't forget to bypass your browser's cache!. If you want to see my skin javascript file as an example, click here. Regards, mabdul 09:47, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't like this script and now I can't find my skins. When I navigate there, it says the page is not found. Tell me how to delete this script from my profile. It does not work for reviewing and comments. Thank you. Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 15:45, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

mammoth studios

Abbythecat (talk) 01:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC)Hi, I saw my submisiion for Mammoth Studios was rejected. Could you check Ktr101's page? He had given me hints on how to improve the submission, and I thought by doing as he suggested the article would be accepted. Maybe you could explain, or offer help to get it accepted? Thanks. AbbythecatAbbythecat (talk) 01:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Please review the suggestions on the decline. Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 01:50, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Abbythecat (talk) 02:16, 27 July 2012 (UTC)Right ... so I put the reference in the article (as I was instructed to do) to get it accepted, and it's still rejected? Uh ... again, check Ktr101 under "Mammoth Studios" for our discussion. I don't know what more I can do, so if you two won't accept it, I'll forget it. For a brief momment I had renewed hope for Wikipedia! I was filled with hope instead of just being sad and wanting to quit. Now I'm thinking people are right not to even bother to submit anything. I wish you guys would make up my mind! Anyway, thanks. Abbythecat (talk) 02:16, 27 July 2012 (UTC)AbbythecatAbbythecat (talk) 02:16, 27 July 2012 (UTC) (A real confused cat at this point!). Abbythecat (talk) 02:16, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I understand your frustration, Abby. give me a day or two and I will take a look at it and your discussion with KTR. Fair? As far as Wikipedia as a whole is concerned, don't lose faith. We are a small team of very dedicated individuals. I review hundreds of articles a week; some get declined and some become articles. Some are just downright (fill in the blank). My desire is not to frustrate you or other authors; I want to ensure the integrity of the information that the site presents to the public. We'll get your article fixed and submitted. Thanks again for your patience. Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 02:27, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Abbythecat (talk) 06:08, 27 July 2012 (UTC)More than fair, thank you. If you don't think my submission is noteworthy, please don't feel you have to accept it. I admire honesty. Please do what you feel is best. Again, thanks. Abbythecat (talk) 06:08, 27 July 2012 (UTC)Abbycat.

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Geek & Sundry

Hiya. Thanks again for helping with AFC. But with respect, I strongy disagree with your WP:NWEB decline on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Geek & Sundry. Perhaps this was a mistake? I know you had issues with non-notable declines before that were overrulled by others. Could you take another look and please elaborate on why you feel it is not notable based on the references? I've posted about this in AFC Help Desk. Thanks. -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 06:13, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Whatever, Eclipse. If it's that big of a deal to you that you need to make a post in AFC, then by all means, revert, clean it and accept. I have reviewed hundreds of articles this week and I don't expect everyone to agree with all my decisions, just as I have found issue with decisions of others. So, your point in mentioning that was what? To be condescending, because it certainly was not helpful. I rarely, rarely, rarely use notability as a reason for decline, so what are you talking about unless you are referring to my neophite week. Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 06:23, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

If you are not interested in backing up your decline reasoning, then I think the post at AFC Help desk was very appropriate, especially as this is a recurring issue with your reviews. -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 06:33, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

You've mentioned "recurring issue" twice now without explaining to what you are referring. I didn't say I would not back up my decision; I have already posted my comment on AFC. So, then, enlighten me on my recurring issue of having decisions reverted... exactly how many articles that I have reviewed and declined based on notability that have been reversed? Was this recent or in my earlier days, because like I said, I rarely use that reason (by comparison). The past few days, probably 75% of articles rejected were turned down for lack of resourcing. If my understanding of notability is off-base, then the issue needs to be addressed at that time, case-by-case, so that I can learn to become a stronger reviewer as I go along. Thank you so much for your help and concern with my growth as a reviewer. I look forward to your response regarding bringing the articles to my attention that needed reverting. Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 06:49, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I just saw your response on the Help Desk. My apologies if my initial messaged seemed condescending, that was not my intent. My intent was to give constructive criticism in order to improve AFC.

And yes, recurring issue based on review also done from your earlier days. I think you're becoming a stronger reviewer, and hope you stick around at AFC to continue helping with the eternal backlog :) -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 06:57, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

It's all good. We're a group of strong-minded, intellectual, academic, intelligent, caring folks. I'm glad to be a part of AFC. You know my motto: "Laissez les bon temps rouler!"

Tatratea Review

Dear Txcrossbow,

I am writing to you in order to get your professional impressions for a wiki article : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Tatratea

The submission of my article respectively called Tatratea has been rejected this morning for a second time and I had some difficulties to understand why.

The reason highlighted the fact that it appears to read more like an advertisement with marketing speaks, but I did not have any meliorative adjectives such as perfect / wonderful though...

Anyway, I have asked 'Wikipedia en help', your real time chat with helpers in order to get a few more explanations on what have to be changed.

This helper gave me a lot of constructive advices and it looks like my new article is strongly more adapted for wikipedia now.

Both of us (the wiki helper and myself) think it can be useful to ask you for a 'private' review and say if you see other things that have to be changed before to ask for a new review and not be disappointed once again.

So is there any chance for me to get your impressions on this matter ?

Many, many thanks for all your help.

Cheers Tatratea (talk) 09:00, 27 July 2012 (UTC)Tatratea

Are there any news-related resources other than liquor-based periodicals than you can read and cite?

"Serve style" screams ADVERTISEMENT. Just tell what it is, who makes it, what it is made of, etc. Stay objective.

"Its most-popular product is Tatratea 52% Original..." is not backed up by sales or production volume statistics.

Even if the article is cleaned, notability may be a concern. You may want to include sales and production information to substantiate notability.

See Smirnoff for a good example Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 18:07, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Article for creation. Title Jonathan Westphal, philosopher

Thank you, Txcrossbow/Stella/Batphone, for taking a little time to give this proposed article your attention. Your answer implies that you have not considered it on its merits, but have decided it is a duplicate, and the title has been changed from Jonathan Westphal, philosopher to Jonathan Westphal (2).

Please consider the following and advise.

1_As a result of seeing the discussion between Thewikibeagles and Hgilbert at Talk:Philosophy of Freedom, Qexigator had inferred that in matters of philosophy Thewikibeagles has a skill and knowledge beyond the ordinary; and, seeing that Thewikibeagles had proposed Jonathan Westphal as the subject of a new article, but that it had been disallowed for want of notability, Qexigator made a google search which promptly yielded websites with information sufficient to establish 'notability' by any reasonable standard. Qexigator has not seen the article proposed by Thewikibeagles but has drafted one using the information mentioned User:Qexigator/Jonathan Westphal and proposes that it be used as the start of a new article or for revising the User talk:Thewikibeagles's. Qexigator (talk) 20:17, 22 July 2012 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thewikibeagles&oldid=503642847"

2_It is not self-evident that there is sufficient reason to exclude Jonathan Westphal from (the Wikipedia) List of philosophers (R–Z) that includes the following:

R. R. Rockingham Gill

Richard Schacht

Hubert Schleichert

J. B. Schneewind

Joseph D. Sneed

Ernest Sosa

Elliott Sober

Peter Tudvad

Michael Tye (philosopher)

Peter Unger

Bas van Fraassen

Peter van Inwagen

Crispin Wright

Qexigator (talk) 07:25, 24 July 2012 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Qexigator/Jonathan_Westphal&oldid=503907258 --Qexigator (talk) 09:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

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The following is not part of Qexigator on Westphal. Qexigator (talk) 19:00, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Can you please halp point to where I erred? And what I should correct thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hafsabir (talk • contribs) 11:42, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Honestly... In short, the article was indeed a duplicate, was it not? If one was declined and one was not, then feel free to merge the information into the other article and then have the duplicate deleted. If, with the additional information you have presented to me here, you are attempting to express your frustration at having your article declined and the other was not, it is simply because the other hit my queue first. Wikipedia content is added by users, so feel free to edit the other article and add your content. Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 18:15, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Merchenta

Txcrossbow,

Thank you for reviewing my page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Merchenta . This is my first time submitting a Wikipedia page so I appreciate your patience and guidance. My page was rejected for insufficient third party sources. I am working on editing these sources as we speak but I just wanted to see if there was anything else that needs review before I re-submit my entry. Thanks!

Stevenm7 (talk) 13:57, 27 July 2012 (UTC) stevenm7

Hello, Steven. The article still lacks reliable resourcing. The reference you added only validates the awards, not the background information. Seek out news articles, trade journals, etc. See WP:RS

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We don't really require authors to "1) add wikilinks" before publication or "2) cite inline references". Just having notability and sensible English is more than enough for approval. Please try to go slower when you're reviewing articles; it's better to get less done well than to do a shabby job fast. Best, Blurpeace 14:49, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

SHABBY JOB!!! Way to encourage the newbie and to that I say... I have not, and DO NOT decline based on wikilinks and inline citations, so what are you talking about? If I made the comment on a declination, it was an ADDITIONAL SUGGESTION to whatever else was wrong with the article... so YOU SLOW DOWN and pay closer and better attention to comments. Better to offer encouragement than to run off a valuable team member by being a jerk. Have a wonderful weekend. Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 18:28, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

The user who submitted that article came into #wikipedia-en-help ^connect complaining that they didn't understand what "wikilinks" or "inline citations" were. Formatting is generally left to the "professionals" like us, so that we don't get cases of people having to learn all of the wiki syntax when they're only interested in submitting one article. While I appreciate the exclamations, I understand you might be discouraged by some pointed criticism. My intention is to have a better AfC process, not drive away editors. While I personally don't believe I came off as a "jerk," I apologize if you felt that way. In these cases, however, I still believe it's better to leave no "additional" suggestion if you're not going to bother explaining what it means or linking to a relevant help page. It's as good as nothing to a potential editor. Blurpeace 19:19, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

The user who submitted that article came into #wikipedia-en-help ^connect complaining that they didn't understand what "wikilinks" or "inline citations" were.

Explain it them and help them. Period. What was so difficult about that? Had they come to me directly, I would have helped and moved on.

Formatting is generally left to the "professionals" like us, so that we don't get cases of people having to learn all of the wiki syntax when they're only interested in submitting one article.'

I hadn't read that in the guidelines. That was sarcasm, by the way.

While I appreciate the exclamations, I understand you might be discouraged by some pointed criticism.

Criticism I can manage if it is constructive and helpful. Your comment was that I had declined articles based on this point... shabby work... etc. How is that constructive or helpful?

While I personally don't believe I came off as a "jerk," I apologize if you felt that way.

Jerkoliciousness evident in purposeful avoidance of admitting being wrong about declinations. You don't see that calling a fellow reviewer's work "shabby" was offensive but you came to the defense of an author with 3 declinations for the same reason? At least I was attempting to help.

In these cases, however, I still believe it's better to leave no "additional" suggestion if you're not going to bother explaining what it means or linking to a relevant help page. It's as good as nothing to a potential editor.

Key phrase here is "I still believe". It's not in the guidelines or Jim Crow laws. However, I will take this into consideration when leaving comments in the future and leave more thorough, helpful comments.

Of all the comments I have left on (hundreds of) articles, to have a few people come away puzzled does not justify not leaving comments. Being an alarmist because one person, who cannot seem to get their article approved for non-related reasons, left a comment for help is not productive. I can see your passion for wanting to help, but in the future, coaching works better than arbitrary criticism.

Now that we're done dancing, let's make nice and have drinks on me! It's always happy hour in New Orleans. Laissez les bon temps rouler! Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 19:44, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Maori Health

Hi You have declined my article on the book "Maori Education" on the grounds that it is not notable. I am not sure that the advice put up by Wikipedia on how to establish "notable" is very helpful here. The book is found in every New Zealand university library (indeed most have several copies). This is evidence that it is notable, and the library catalogs are accessible on line if someone needs to check. For example the University of Auckland (its catalog is called voyager) has 9 copies across various sites, including one on two hour loan. The book is also found in the public libraries of most, perhaps all, New Zealand cities (for example the Hastings library has a copy. Hastings is a city of 60,000). Even a google search finds the book is referenced in a number of university theses Notable is not the same as popular. I say that this book is notable and has been judged so by librarians (who work within tight budgets for new acquisitions) and university teachers. I can probably scratch up one or two newspaper reviews of the book but this would mean a bit of a search of newspapers from 2006/7. An encyclopedia is supposed to deal with specialisation. Maori education as a general field is something not covered at all comprehensively by Wikipedia. The article on Russell Bishop, one of the leading researchers,is a mere stub and there is no article on Te Kotahitanga his main area of research over the last ten years which is now being rolled out as teacher professioanl education over the whole country. One of the things users can expect of an encyclopeida is relaible "first call" information on specialty topics. This is something Wikipedia does well in the sciences (some of the maths articles are awesome) but less well in the Arts. Tonygandal (talk) 21:15, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Maori_Education_(book) Tonygandal (talk) 21:28, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, Tony. I will take a look at it after the opening ceremonies broadcast concludes.

Re:Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Joker Venom (2)

Please accept my version as the other version does not contain reliable sources but mine has sources for every piece of information that I found. Thanks!Cheers! (Injuegue (talk) 00:44, 28 July 2012 (UTC))

Combine the information on the earlier version Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 03:23, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Three To Power

Hello Tx, thank you for reviewing my article. First time editor/poster/everything here at Wikipedia, I really appreciate the site and your patience especially. The reason for the decline was that the article lacks citation. I will try to research Wiki standards and get the article updated tomorrow. Hope you're enjoying the Olympic ceremonies. Have a great weekend! — Preceding unsigned comment added by GiambattistaV (talk • contribs) 01:55, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

After you make your changes, feel free to hit me back and I will take a look at it. Cheers! Stella ^BATPHONE_GROOVES 03:23, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Tx, I have updated the article with three citations and a reflist section. Honestly, I have no issue with citing sources, but seeing as this is a article meant to provide a background and history of one of my own projects, I'm not sure where else citation is needed. Obviously I'm trying to keep it as objective as possible, again, basically the intention is just to provide a history of the project. If you have any advise on the construction or the content of the article please feel free to let loose on me! Thank you.