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The more I read this article, the more I see that it's starting to get quite sloppy. I may rewrite some of it soon but I'd welcome any help.--Gяaphic 20:23, 16 April 2006 (UTC)


Two things:

  • The article needs its TOC at the top, not down in the middle of the page. I propose everything from the fourth paragraph to where the TOC is currently be sectioned under something like "Biography".
  • Perhaps the list of aliases should be moved to a new page, or each artist's list of aliases added to the artist's respective article (which has been done already but they are inconsistent with this page).

Jesusjonez 00:09, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

the TOC being down in the middle was as a result of some vandalism shortly before your edits that removed all the paragraph headings. I've fixed it now. And I agree about the aliases. --Jamieli 00:32, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wu-Tang Acronym

Is it true that Wu-Tang is an acronym standing for Wisdom, Universe, Truth, Allah, Nation, God ? --172.181.49.157 20:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • "Wu-Tang" has been backronymed into a few different things. The one you heard appeared, I think, in "Bellz of War" on Wu-Tang Forever where RZA states that it's the "Wisdom of the Universe, and the Truth of Allah... for the Nation of the Gods." Another backronym is "Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game." -- ChrisCostello 06:24, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
    • Also "We Usually Take Another Nigga's Garments" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Graphic (talk • contribs) .
      • Actually, "We Usually Take All Nigga's Garments" - this is the first one used (see 7th Chamber, 1st verse) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.133.4.36 (talk • contribs) .

Wu-Tang Manual

Someone who has the Wu-Tang Manual needs to rewrite a lot of this article as much of it differs with RZA's own words, --Graphic 23:06, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have it, and i dont really see anything that does differ. --Jamieli 09:01, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I meant that while it's generally accurate, the article could be a lot more accurate and in depth if the Wu-Tang Manual was used as a guide. For example, the exact circumstances surrounding the creation of Wu-Tang. Generally the story is that RZA, GZA and ODB started it but in the manual RZA states that he and Ghostface got together then invited people to come to the studio.--Graphic 07:02, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguities

I'm by no means an expert on Wu-Tang, but reading this article there were two things that struck me. 1) surreal is used multiple times and I have no clue what it means in context. What exactly is a "surreal beat"? That could be explained maybe. 2) There seems to be some incongruity for me. Like the article is talking about the oversaturation of Wu Tang related products, yet everything (according to this article) apparently received "mixed but basically positive reviews."

I wrote that, and I used metacritic.com as a source. link

Is that really the case? I remember reading some reviews of Iron Flag awhile back and they were pretty scathing, although I have no idea if they were representetive of reviews on a whole. It just seems like there are instances where people are being too polite and are trying to gloss over their failures and focus solely on their successes. Oh, and a third thing: "As well as the releases from the nine Clansmen and the most high-ranking affiliates, there was a long line of mostly poorly-received releases from lower-ranking affiliates such as Popa Wu, Shyheim, GP Wu, and Wu-Syndicate, second albums from Gravediggaz and Killarmy, as well as a greatest hits album, a b-sides compilation, and Wu-Tang branded clothing and video games. The Wu Wear clothing line in particular was massively influential on hip hop culture" how did we go from "mostly poorly-received" to "in particular was massively influential." I mean, I "get" the sentence, it's just confusing the way it's written.

I only meant the "relases from lower-ranking affiliates" were poorly-received. I can see how the "in particular" is somewhat confusing though. --Jamieli 13:42, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

36 Chambers

It might be appropriate somewhere to mention explanations of the term and it's usage. Including RZA's explanations relating to Chinese mythology (anyone know if any of that is true to actual folklore?) and also the reference to the address of their first studio at 36 Chambers St. I'm not really sure where this stuff would fit in...but it would be a nice addition if someone has a bit more knowledge than I about the Wu.

It came from the kung-fu movie Master Killer a.k.a. 36 Chambers of Shaolin and I believe the number 36 was retrospectively given extra meanings, though I'm not willing to make that part official with an edit.--Graphic 14:13, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

well I wonder whether the reference to the movie came before they rented studio space at 36 chambers st. or after...anyone know? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jmejia (talk • contribs) .

Ive heard that 36 chambers comes from the 9 members hearts. As in the 4 chambers of each of their hearts.4x9=36.Its probably nothing to do with it.The part were it says "It came from the kung-fu movie Master Killer a.k.a. 36 Chambers of Shaolin" is probably the right answer.

"The" Wu-Tang

I removed most instances of "the" before "Wu-Tang" except where it is proper. The group's official name is absent of "the." Also, you wouldn't for example call Green Day or something "the" Green Day. It would only seem proper to refer to them as "the" Wu-Tang Clan if they were an actual clan, like "the Hojo clan" or "the Hojos." That's because you'd refer to as one Hojo as "a" Hojo, but you wouldn't refer to Raekwon as "a" Wu-Tang. They aren't Wu-Tangs, they are members of Wu-Tang. No need for "the." On the other hand, I have capitalized "the" in all instances of "The RZA" since it is clear that this is what he prefers to be called.--Graphic 05:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wu-Tang Killa Bees: The Swarm

Should Wu-Tang Killa Bees: The Swarm technically be considered a wu-tang clan album since it features various other artists? Tutmosis 16:42, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I took them out.--Gяaphic 20:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Appearances

Was that Wu-Tang at Columbia University today (2006-04-22) in front of Low Library? I'm not really into rap, but they talked about ODB and had the audience do the W-symbol thing. If so, how can the school afford to hire such a famous group? --ʀ6ʍɑʏ89 20:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

$40,000 tuition. [unsigned]
Yea, it turned out to be Ghostface Killah. They paid him $50K. There was an article in the school newspaper.
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