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August 2

Dates federal budget was signed by presidents

How do I get somebody to do the research and add it to Wikipedia on Dates federal budget was signed by presidents — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uthajohn (talk • contribs) 03:29, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

We are all volunteers. Maybe just do the research yourself? Maproom (talk) 07:56, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Racism and Pan-Turkism

Hello,

I am writing regarding the following article.

Bulgars (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

It is NOT based on any facts, racist and it is based on Pan-Turkish propaganda. The author locked the article so no one can edit it. Please remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paraliza (talk • contribs) 05:27, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I see no evidence of Turkish propaganda there, unless you object to the statement that the Bulgars were of Turkic origin. Note that the article is not about the Bulgarians, a Slavic people. Maproom (talk) 08:07, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

The article is semiprotected due to vandalism, which means it can be edited by anyone with an autoconfirmed account. If you wish to discuss the wording or sources of the article, its talk page is the place to start. - Karenjc 08:31, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

password dose not match

plz tell me how open the acount bcoz i forget my password — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.38.26.98 (talk) 06:45, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Please see Help:Logging in#What if I forget the password? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:07, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Mark Ring Wales Rugby Union International

His rudeness towards coach Ron Waldron was due to the focus on physical fitness, not Ring's strength. Knee injuries, which had ruined his 1985-86 and 1988-89 seasons, hampered his performance and that tournament marked the end of his international career.

I feel this has been added to my profile by someone with a personal grudge against me! I have no idea why personal conflict with one of six Wales Coaches i played under, should be highlighted in my International Profile? Furthermore, it is offencive and incorrect. The records will show i was consistently in the the top 3 squad players with the best aerobic capacity throughout my International career. Problems which led to a breakdown of respect for the Coach in question, had nothing to do with my personal physical fitness. Waldron's public criticism of my playing style, which did not suit the way he wished to play was the factor that caused the rift between both parties. As for the knee injuries which 'hampered his performance' the knee was structurally sound. A fresh cartiliage injury, which happened during the final warm-up game against France (3 weeks before the first match) in Cardiff, meant i was rushed in for an immediate operation, forced to endure 3 weeks of rehab with no endurance training, which ultimately contributed to a lack of conditioning, further highlighted during the final quarter of the 'must win' final group match against Australia. Following a first round group match defeat against Western Samoa in Cardiff, where as the front line goal-kicker, (having missed some penalty goal attempts) i came in for some criticism, that would be fair to accept but to read on wikipedia, on my own personal profile, incorrect and inaccurate text is disappointing, to say the least. I sincerely hope, someone with a better insight into some relevant text with regards to my International Playing career can assist in editing my current profile, which is borderline defamation of character! Regards, Mark Ring — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.139.38 (talk) 09:34, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

You should not edit an article about yourself, see conflict-of-interest. But as the first sentence your removed makes little sense, and the second cites no sources, I shan't argue with their deletion. Maproom (talk) 11:08, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Wrong spelling of the first name of Xhemail Mustafa

Greetings,

There is a wiki biography about Xhemail Mustafa but his first name was misspelled as Xhemajl. I'm his son and would like this to be corrected.

Regards, Besian Mustafa Besianm (talk) 11:55, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

It appears that someone had just misspelled the name. I've moved the page, but it still needs lots of work. If you can edit with a neutral point of view and supply reliable sources, you are free to edit the page, but please read our conflict of interest policy first. FloBo A boat that can float! 14:31, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

wrong Chase Daniels

The Chase Daniels listed as someone from Kentucky is erroneous. The Chase Daniels from Kentucky is female and her real name is Tamaro Tatum (Chase Daniels was her radio name ). Also, she has had a more prestigious career, having won broadcasting awards, worked at more top-rated and diverse formats and has not only worked in Atlanta but also on the national level at XM (now SiriusXM). She also retired from radio in 2008.

The Chase Daniels listed on this site is from Jacksonville, FL, and has only worked in Florida and Atlanta.

The Chase Daniels from Kentucky had a Wiki page but it must have been erased and taken over by the other Chase Daniels from Florida ...yet it is still linked to the Kentucky page.

Please correct this error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.18.150.53 (talk) 12:14, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

It appears that the change was made by a one-edit account in 2010, here. - Karenjc 15:18, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Need help with the unblock template

See here. I declined an unblock attempt and made some sort of coding error; my rationale for declining it got spelled out as the name of a template to be substituted, which (given the length of my rationale) not surprisingly doesn't exist. What did I do wrongly? I'd appreciate someone fixing it; since I've already declined it, and since I told the editor that someone might be coming along to fix it, please feel free to fix it without worry about procedural issues if you're not an admin, since you'll only be doing housekeeping that I was trying to do in the first place. Nyttend (talk) 17:34, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Fixed by Timotheus Canens. Nyttend (talk) 17:43, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Profession added to Biographical Article

I contributed a biographical article and the person's profession (economist) was added after her name before it was accepted. The article appears to now only be searchable if you use "karen davis" and "economist." Is it critical that her profession be part of the article title? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christinefh (talk • contribs) 18:14, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

There is already an article with the name Karen Davis, so it's necessary to add something to the title to make it different. You can add the new article to the disambiguation page at Karen_Davis_(disambiguation) so that people looking for Karen Davis can find the article on the economist. RudolfRed (talk) 18:21, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!Christinefh (talk)

We have other ways of "disambiguating" (that is, adding text to the end to separate people with the same name), but in general, adding people's professions to the end of the article names is the most convenient way. Another common method is to use the middle initial. For example, if her middle name were Mary, it would be perfectly workable to use Karen M. Davis, because we have no article with that title right now. Nyttend (talk) 18:27, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Terrific, I'll do that.Christinefh (talk) 18:36, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Check-user

Hello English Wikipedia. I don't know if this is the right place to write this, but I need some help from a steward. I want a check-user for Costas78 and 3 ips:

a) 94.65.173.245

b) 94.65.131.131

c) 94.65.154.242

Do they match??

Please respond ASAP.

Thanks.

--Το αλλήθωρο οπόσουμ (talk) 18:40, 2 August 2012 (UTC) (from Hellas)

meta:SRCU is the place to ask; a CheckUser is not needed to get the link between them (if there's any).--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:44, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much Jasper! I could remember that there was a page like that, but i didn't remember its name or something else. Thank you sincerely.--Το αλλήθωρο οπόσουμ (talk) 19:06, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Login problems

My previous login details are not working and after trying a number of different things I gave up and tried to open a new account. However, I wanted to use my previously registered user name or ID but it would not let me, stating that user name was already taken. I seem to be stumped.19:48, 2 August 2012 (UTC)19:48, 2 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.187.211.10 (talk)

Try following the directions at WP:USURP. It is unlikely you'll get the name you had before, but I don't really know how all of that works.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:27, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Company article - infobox or prose?

I want to expand a stub about a company. I think I could add some information as values for the parameters in Template:Infobox company. Should I add an infobox to the article or should I include that information in the stubs body using prose? Is there any guideline regarding this matter? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I've always been of the opinion that the infobox should be a summary, and not used instead, of good prose. That is, anything that is included in an infobox should probably also be covered by well-written prose in the article. It is something like the lede section of the article: a quick summary of the key data points, but not a substitute for good writing. There may be good reasons to put something in the main body that wouldn't end up in an infobox, but most information in an infobox could easily be expanded and included in the main body of the article. --Jayron32 21:03, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm unclear on why it has to be one or the other and not both... Dismas|^(talk) 21:08, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

The above two comments are correct. The infobox is exactly like the lead. It should reflect the information in the article. It is more of an "at a glance" than a holder for information. Ryan Vesey 21:19, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies. The article in question is Animation International where I thought about listing the locations where the company is active / has offices from [1], perhaps under some infobox parameter (not sure whether area_served would be the best parameter for this). Personally I would also prefer stating that information using prose. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 21:46, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit Conflicts when Un-doing my edits

Recently whenever I made an edit I realized was not very constructive or I didn't like I would un-do those edits. But recently whenever I made an Un-do then the page would say EDIT CONFLICT. Then when I checked the history to see who edited the edit that conflicted was the edit I was trying to make. What is the nature of this problem. Is this a site wide glitch or is it my computer. ZSpeed (talk) 21:52, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Are you clicking save twice? - Purplewowies (talk) 00:15, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Just a thought, but you can't undo an edit using the method of stopping it by pressing the save button again once you have saved the first time. If you have saved the edit you have to wait for the save to complete and then undo it like any other edit. Britmax (talk) 08:45, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

So you cant double click? ZSpeed (talk) 13:40, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Font conversion?!

Hi there,

It has come to my attention that when I search something in Traditional Chinese in Google, the Google result will show the text in Traditional Chinese, but once I click on the Wiki link, the target page will be shown in Traditional Chinese for a few seconds before being auto-redirected to a Simplified Chinese. No offence but WTH?

This has been going on for at least 4 years and it didn't change when I sign in and set my wiki preference to Traditional Chinese. Any idea what is going on?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.199.224 (talk) 22:44, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Are you logged in at the Chinese Wikipedia when you see it? Have you set the preference at the second language box at zh:Special:Preferences where you can only choose between Chinese variants? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

August 3

why was A great reference book deleted

The most outstanding and exhustive book on Cape Cod is the "History of Cape Cod" by Freeman... 2 volumes 2000 pages.......

I had added it to the reference section a while back and noticed it was deleted....... the book was published in the 1880s and is still available through Higgenson Books ..... I have a copy in my library... 72.220.76.244 (talk) 00:41, 3 August 2012 (UTC) Lewis Brackett

Which article did you add it to? If you look at the history page, the edit summary for the delete might explain why the other editor deleted it. RudolfRed (talk) 00:48, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Without having seen the edit I can't be sure, but it sounds like you added it to the references section because you think it is a good reference, and not because it was used as a reference in the article. Reference sections are not for listing references, good or otherwise, but for listing those sources that are actually used as the source of the information in the article.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:23, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but instead of deleting it, it could have (and should have) been moved to a "Further reading" section, which is exactly for such a purpose. See WP:FURTHER. --Jayron32 04:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Reporting Users

How do I go about reporting users who are "vandalizing" pages by purposefully adding untrue/false information?

Thank you

Jluca1976 (talk) 01:07, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

You can report obvious and persistent vandals at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Before posting there, a final warning in an escalating series should have been posted to the user's talk page (for example {{Uw-vandal4}}, {{Uw-spam4}} or {{Uw-speedy4}}), and the user must have vandalized within the last few hours, including after the final warning was given. Various warning templates can be found at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. Your block request is unlikely to be acted upon unless you follow these steps. Cases that are not simple vandalism can be reported at WP:AN/I. Of course, in conjunction with warning against and reporting vandalism, you have the ability, mandate and are encouraged to revert all instances of vandalism you find yourself.Template:Z36--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:19, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Note: in this case I would use the warning series {{uw-error1}}, etc.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:20, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

It's impossible to comment on the particular case without seeing it, but please be aware that there's a difference between vandalism and disputed content. Hoax information that can be proven to be an unambiguous hoax is vandalism, for example. However, in other cases editors disagree over wording or content in articles on controversial subjects, both citing sources to support their preferred versions. Accusations of vandalism often arise from both sides in such cases, but in fact this is a content dispute and various processes are available to try to achieve consensus. Identifying which scenario you're dealing with will help you decide how to proceed. - Karenjc 08:07, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Advice re marine boiler needed

Dear Sirs,please advice us because we need marine steam boiler cap.5 t/H with working pressure 10 bar,using for heating CPO on ship,thank you. <email redacted>,thank you.

Dear Sirs,

Our client need 1(one) unit Marine steam boiler install on ship, with capacity 5 T/H, working pressure 10 bar (actually using 4-5 bar) and this boiler using for heating CPO on ship, fuel MFO or LFO its oke.

Thank you for your kindly cooperation, looking forward reply from you soon.

Regards,

Antoni Sulaiman

PT. Agung Perkasa Rekapratama/ <email redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.138.17.201 (talk) 04:01, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 --Jayron32 04:05, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

How to add my organisation details

Hello sir thank you for assisting. Actually i am a employee of OHPC as Jr. Manager (Electrical). I searched my organization details at wikipedia. but unable to find then i thought to add this article and let the other people know about our organization Odisha hydro power corporation is a gold rated state PSU, it is the one of the best profit making organization in state government PSU. it has 7 hydro power project working in state of odisha so i want to edit the article .. plz help.. (www.ohpcltd.com) My organization web site thanks Sincerely your ChinmayBastia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chinmay bastia (talk • contribs) 05:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Generally, it is a very bad idea to try to add your company or organization to Wikipedia, since you have a strong conflict of interest, and may have difficulty maintaining the obligatory neutral point of view. If your corporation is genuinely notable, some third party will eventually write an article about it. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Peter Bodo, sports writer and blogger about Tennis

== Heading text == Writing and 'Truth'

{Suggested for a box feature}

Before Mr. Bodo joined Tennis Magazine, I was a co-worker with Peter Bodo on the Passaic-Clifton NJ Herald-News where I was a newspaper reporter for seven years and covered county courthouse, city beats and general assignment news and features.

Your article mentioned how Mr. Bodo looked upon how writing should reveal "truth". One time, I faced a problem on how to describe why the tiny borough of Wallington NJ wanted to ban blue jeans from public schools, and I was stumped. Mr. Bodo suggested the conflict could be summed up in the lead: The Wallington Board of Education wants to zip up the age of the blue jean by passing a new dress code for public schools.

It was a perfect suggestion and I adopted it. (I rarely was stumped for lead graphs.)

That is what Mr. Bodo means by truth.

1. REDIRECT Target page name

I loved tennis, played it regularly, and subscribed to Tennis Magazine for years before I discovered to my delight Mr. Bodo joined the staff covering the rivalry between Jimmy Connors and McEnroe and many others to come.

That is all. I don't know if this "fits" Wikipedia's standards to be included. I submit it humbly for your consideration. Thank you. bob podesfinski

• Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you want them to be permanently removed from the page history, please email this address. BigNate37_(T) 06:09, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I think you're trying to tell us a personal anecdote about Peter Bodo for possible inclusion in the article. Unfortunately, this counts as original research unless the anecdote has previously been published in a reliable source. Wikipedia is not a primary source and can't use unpublished material, I'm afraid. NB: I've fixed the two headings generated for this question, to make it clearer. Karenjc 07:43, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry

Dear Wikipedia, I’m very sorry, I seem to have irritated you guys. It’s certainly not what I intended. I have rather confused myself. Please try to understand that my IT and internet skills are rather poor. I think I have written a good article, but I panicked first of all when I had not cited it sufficiently, and then when my name appeared alongside the title. Again my apologies. I am still rather confused, but I will try harder. Maya Frida Barr (talk) 08:59, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

You cannot irritate Wikipedia, only some people among them. Rest assured, that we understand how difficult it is. Do not feel discouraged. Creating articles from scratch is very hard. Writing a good article from scratch is much harder then you probably ever imagined (Think submitting an article to scientific publications-kind of hard). Just participate, do small things, learn and improve. Apologies are not needed. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 10:46, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

When asking for help please be as specific as possible and include links to other pages that might be relevant. Oh and try not to be so sorry! :) Roger (talk) 13:48, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Please help with a Merge

• Hemimelia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• Congenital absence of the fibula (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (non-redirecting link: Congenital absence of the fibula)

Per WP:REDUNDANTFORK the article Congenital absence of the fibula needs to be merged into Hemimelia. The only content of Congenital absence of the fibula that might need to be kept is the external links, some of the categories and one of the WikiProject templates on the Talk page - the rest is duplicated (and better written) in Hemimelia. I've never done such a merge before so I'd apreciate some help completing the process. Roger (talk) 09:01, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

My advice would be to redirect Congenital absence of the fibula to Hemimelia and add the external links, cats, and wikiproject templates separately. The complicated part of a merge is making sure the authors of the content are attributed in your edit summary, and on a talk-page template, this is not necessary here, because you are not copying prose. If you need any further help, give me a shout. Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 09:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

So I copy-paste the templates, cats and exlinks then replace the content of Congenital absence of the fibula with a redirect. That's all nice and simple, but what do I do with the content of Talk:Congenital absence of the fibula? Roger (talk) 09:45, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

If the wikiproject templates allow class=redirect, replace the class=stub with that, otherwise delete them. There is no need to merge the content of the talk pages, I would just put a note on Talk:Hemimelia to let editors know it's there. Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 09:56, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Done. Please check that I haven't made any mistakes. Thanks for your help. Roger (talk) 10:41, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

All good. Glad to be of help. Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 10:58, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I have added {{copied}} information to both articles' talk pages as well as adding redirect templates to Congenital absence of the fibula, which also gave me the opportunity to mention the target article explicitly in the edit summary, which is very much necessary for licensing purposes. Please see WP:SMERGE for details. And yes, Quasihuman was not only correct that talk pages do not need to be merged, but they should not be merged. BigNate37_(T) 15:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

It's probably best to do that to be on the safe side, but there is unlikely to be an attribution issue where no text has been merged, all that was merged was a cat, a stub template, and some external links, not content that I would have thought requires attribution. Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 20:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Company info

How do I add our company information to Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waxselection (talk • contribs) 11:33, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I am trying to request that a page be made.

Went through all the prompts without creating an account.

Was directed to the category and subdivision to the area of my interest.

I was only shown an alphabetical list of, maybe pages that are already requested and in progress????

How can I REQUEST (a direct link maybe?) that a PAGE be MADE and not a list....because the page I want is NOT listed?.

For example, If I wanted to request a page be made about John Doe, JR an actress, why am I being directed to: Select category: Film -> people -> ABCD....-> I select "D" -> There is no Doe, John, Jr. But no LINK to ask for the page about John Doe, Jr to be made?

How can I do that? More simple and direct directions please! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.199.220.194 (talk) 11:40, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

First, ensure your company meets the notability requirements. If it does, go to Wikipedia:Requested articles/Business and economics/Companies and add the title of your proposed article under the appropriate sub-heading there, ideally with a line or two of information or a weblink. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Article declined, reviewer doesn't answer/talk

I wrote an article and a user declined the submission. I contacted him on his user talk-page and saw that many other users had contacted him (for the same reason) but he never answered. Looking into the history of his talk-page showed me that he keeps on deleting the page every couple of weeks or so... What can i do? 194.95.117.68 (talk) 12:28, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

This decline by User:Phantomwiki is I assume the one that you're talking about, and was not unreasonable.

This recent edit by User:Phantomwiki appears to be an occasion of them interacting with an article creator after a query. However, it's misplaced (on the user page instead of the user talk page) and at least moderately inaccurate ("If others vote for your article to be accepted, it will be" - there is no such voting process).

Phantomwiki makes a lot of AFC declines, but after looking through half a dozen, they look mostly OK, this one is one that I would be a bit concerned about.

Roy Benson was an AfC submission that Phantomwiki accepted during this period, so they are not exclusively declining submissions.

This is an example of Phantomwiki responding to an article creator on their talk page, but the response is upside down (at the start of the talk page not the end), and tells the creator to "put embedded references (the little numbers in brackets) in your article to support the information", without explaining how or providing a useful link like WP:REFB.

This was the state of Phantomwiki's user talk page immediately before they blanked it yesterday. It has outstanding requests for feedback or help, regarding Phantomwiki's AFC declines, from the original poster of this thread, and from User:Realestateone, User:Pierre.Hardin, User:Aliaretiree, User:Tatratea and User:Siobhanstirling. As far as I can tell, Phantomwiki replied to none of these queries before blanking them.

I don't think it's appropriate to deal with AfC submissions while ignoring the majority of article creator queries in this way. I would like input from Phantomwiki as to whether they can change this approach. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 13:42, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

First of all: Thank you, Demiurge1000! Don't get me wrong, I don't deny that my submitted article had (and probably still has) its flaws, but nevertheless I would have liked the reviewer to at least give me a short comment oder answer etc. I felt quite "deleted" and I guess others may have felt the same way... 194.95.117.68 (talk) 13:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I've added a bit to the above, and left a note on Phantomwiki's talk page asking them to comment on this. Can now wait until they have time to do so (or not). --Demiurge1000 (talk) 13:49, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Dead Birds film by Robert Gardner

Hi,

I'm trying to get some information corrected on the documentary film, Dead Birds, by Robert Gardner. I am the studio assistant here for Robert and he asked to have this date corrected on all websites as the actual release date was in October 1963 at the Loeb Drama Center at Harvard University. I was able to edit the release date on the site, but the title of the page still says Dead Birds (1964). I was wondering if it would be possible to get this date changed as well as to not confuse readers.

thanks for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jade s7a (talk • contribs) 14:42, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll sort that for you now - the refs available do suggest that it was released in 1963. Valenciano (talk) 14:47, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Page has now been moved to correct title, the error appears to have come from IMDB, but I've added a reference for the 1963 release. Valenciano (talk) 14:56, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Seems like there's no help for me, unfortunately

I really can't believe no-one wants to do this 1-minutes' job. It's already been 4 days. Please update Serbia#Religion per Religion in Serbia and Religion in Vojvodina. So, please change

{{bar box
|width = 250px
|float = left
|title = Religious groups in Serbia <small>(excluding Kosovo)</small> in 2002<ref name="popis2002"/>
|titlebar = #ddd
|bars =
{{bar percent|Orthodoxy|blue|84.1}}
{{bar percent|Catholicism|purple|6.24}}
{{bar percent|Islam|green|3.42}}
{{bar percent|Protestantism|yellow|1.44}}
|caption =
}}

to

{{Bar box
| title=Serbia <small>(excluding Kosovo)</small> religiosity (2002)
| titlebar=#ddd
| float=right
| bars=
{{Bar percent|Orthodoxy|blue|85}}
{{Bar percent|Catholicism|purple|5.5}}
{{Bar percent|Islam|green|3.2}}
{{Bar percent|Undeclared|yellow|2.5}}
{{Bar percent|Others|grey|2.2}}
{{Bar percent|Protestantism|orange|1.1}}
{{Bar percent|Irreligion|red|0.5}}
|caption=<small>source: [http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/axd/en/popis.htm 2002 census]</small>
}}

and

Main article: Religion in Serbia

to

Main articles: Religion in Serbia and Religion in Vojvodina

With regards, 109.93.148.134 (talk) 21:59, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

What is the reason for this update? Ruslik_Zero 08:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Reason is that the latter informations are fuller and referenced, whilst those already present are obsolete and conflicting with the new, referenced informations. Another reason is that the article is semiprotected and can't be edited by unregistered users. 178.223.199.235 (talk) 11:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I can't find any mention of religions in any of the files located at the link you cited. Can you provide a more specific reference, like the pdf file and a page number, so the updated numbers can be verified. Thanks. Sarahj2107 (talk) 13:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The information is found in the Book 3: "Confession, Mother Tongue and National Identity or Ethnicity According to Age and Gender – Data by Municipalities". Problem is that it's a zip file CONTAINING the pdf file (that should be the reference), so it can't be linked since it automatically proposes download. Note: only numbers are found in the book (page 13/409). I calculated the percents myself. For example, there were 7.498.001 people in Serbia. From those, 6.371.584 were Orthodox. So, 6371584 times 100 divided by 7498001 (direct proportionality) is 84.977102... pretty close to 85%, not 84.1% (as the already present informations state). Same goes for all others. 178.223.199.235 (talk) 14:58, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

By the way, the proper course of action if you are unable to modify semi-protected pages is to raise the issue on the talk page using {{edit semi protected}} to bring it to an editor's attention. This isn't really a help desk question. BigNate37_(T) 15:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

And repeatedly "bumping" the thread to the bottom of this page won't win you any friends either.--ukexpat (talk) 15:22, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Of course I was on the talk page, and I was told: Not done: Changes are minor. A request template is not needed. You may ask at help desk for minor changes such as this. Canoe1967 (talk) 09:21, 1 August 2012 (UTC) See!!! And if I don't 'bump', surely no-one will help. So, will someone help or not? 178.223.199.235 (talk) 15:29, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Well I certainly can't fault you for coming here in that event. Though that doesn't change that the article talk page is where this should have occurred. BigNate37_(T) 15:44, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done I checked the percentage calculations and your numbers seem more accurate, I also put a more precise ref in. Sarahj2107 (talk) 15:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Yay!!! Thousand kisses, Sarahj2107!!! I can't thank you enough!!! 178.223.199.235 (talk) 15:55, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Alert message is unfair and should be removed

How do I undo the alert from the Berkeley Optometry page (University of California, Berkeley School of Optometry (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)):

"This article appears to be written like an advertisement. Please help improve it by rewriting promotional content from a neutral point of view and removing any inappropriate external links. (February 2012)"

I strongly object to this subjective assessment of the content of our page. Every statement is factual, and no comparative claims are made. There are no inappropriate links.

Display of an alert request to rewrite "promotional" content is a serious criticism of the page and is unfairly punitive. It calls into question the validity of the information when there is no justifiable reason for doing so.

Please delete the alert message from this page. (The page has intermediate edits and I did not want to revert the page.)

Thank you. Wikimonjin (talk) 18:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I concur with the assessment that the tone of the article is inappropriate for a neutrally written encyclopedia, and it does need to be rewritten to improve it in that regard. The entire thing reads not like an encyclopedia article written by a disinterested third party, but as a brochure trying to entice people to come to the school. It needs someone with some good article writing skills to go over it. It also appears to lack any quality, third-party references and looks like all of the information comes directly from the school itself. I have added some more clean up tags for those reasons. Look, if the article is substandard, don't complain that people note it is substandards. It needs to be cleaned up, and removing the tag does not fix the serious problems the article has. Before it is removed, the article needs fixing. --Jayron32 18:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Jayron. The article needs a re-write. Oh, and it's not your page. See WP:OWN. Dismas|^(talk) 18:26, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

TBH, an article about a university department, written by what very much appears to be a single purpose account with a conflict of interest, and virtually no useable references, does this even need a stand-alone article?--Jac16888 ^Talk 18:31, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Editing

Is this editing Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.239.109 (talk) 18:31, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I do not understand. Could you please explain further? :) 18:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaminamina (talk • contribs)

Can you clarify your question? RudolfRed (talk) 18:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

My guess is that 83.109.239.109 has deliberately asked a self-referential question. If I am right, the answer to it is yes. Maproom (talk) 20:27, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

What is the answer if you are wrong?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 01:17, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

The weasel rolled down the mountain in the snow. Where the weasel had rolled, there also no longer was snow. BigNate37_(T) 02:24, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

messages

I have NEVER edited a wikipedia page, but every time I come to read information, there is a message saying I need to stop making edits or my account will be blocked. I don't even have an account with you! Please stop threating me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.23.96.82 (talk) 18:32, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

It's ok, nobody is threatening you or blaming you. IP addresses are generally dynamic, meaning your IP address today might have belonged to someone else yesterday who did vandalise--Jac16888 ^Talk 18:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

You are editing from an IP address. It is likely that that IP address was assigned to a different person in the past, and that person made an edit resulting in a warning. The way to avoid this is to create an account. RudolfRed (talk) 18:39, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Note that even if someone else gets an IP address blocked that you then inherit, this will not prevent you from reading Wikipedia, and should you really want to edit Wikipedia there are ways to address that situation too. As a reader, you do not have to worry about it. BigNate37_(T) 21:08, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

100 questions by FACEBOOK members asked to anyone seeking political office

Why doesn't facebook put up an area on the site where members can submit to a list of questions they would like an answer to by anyone seeking political office. Pick out the top 100 questions asked and submit them to everyone seeking office; presidental office, congress and also state office seekers. This list should include simple questions like: 1. Do you rent or own your home? 2. Is there a mortgage on your home? 3. Did you have a student loan? 4. Do your children have or have a student loan? 5. Education level? 6. Occupation before seeking political office? 7.Do you have any domestic employees? 8. How many cars do you have? 9. What is your average electric bill? 10. Do you own more than one home(s)? 11. Do you have a saving account? 12. Does your wife hold a job? 13. What did you pay in taxes each year for the last 10 years? ------- The answers to the 100 top questions FACEBOOK member submit to an office seeker may bring to light just how far we have gone from electing someone who represents our interest and just how far the office seekers have gone in getting money and endorsements from special interest groups and bring to light their motivation for seeking office. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.168.147.252 (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

You'll need to ask Facebook. This is the page for asking about how to use Wikipedia. RudolfRed (talk) 18:54, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed question

Is there a way to check and see when User:Red Hat On Head will be autoconfirmed? She has over 10 edits and it appears like she has been editing for more than 4 days. Am I mistaken? Ryan Vesey 18:51, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The best way is to check the account creation log - in this case, the account was created at 04:47, 30 July 2012 (UTC), so she should be autoconfirmed as of 04:47 today. Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 19:18, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

There are some cases where autoconfirming takes longer. See WP:AUTOCONFIRM. RudolfRed (talk) 20:03, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, is there a userrights log that shows if someone is autoconfirmed? I've never been able to find one because it isn't a granted userright. Unless she is using Tor she should be autoconfirmed by now. If she is in fact not being autoconfirmed, I suppose the best thing to do would be to have an admin give her confirmed status. Ryan Vesey 20:09, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

According to Special:UserRights/Red Hat On Head she is a "Implicit member of: Autoconfirmed users", and it's not there for everybody, see Special:UserRights/Capehorner91 our newest member--Jac16888 ^Talk 20:16, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. She's autoconfirmed Ryan Vesey 20:23, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Special:UserRights can only be used by admins. http://en.wikichecker.com/user/ says whether a user is autoconfirmed but I assume it cannot detect Tor restrictions. Special:Preferences says whether your own account is autoconfirmed. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:25, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Ah, didn't know that, my bad. Well for none admins, autoconfirmed users have "Implicit member of: Autoconfirmed users" above a list of checkboxes for other rights, non-autoconfirmed users don't--Jac16888 ^Talk 20:33, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

abot factor

hi sir,

i would like to about factor in used in business purposes.please explain — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranadeep22 (talk • contribs) 23:20, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but it is very hard to understand what you are asking. Do any of our articles listed at factor (disambiguation) help you? BigNate37_(T) 23:51, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

August 4

Ip address

Hi i was wondering how i hide my IP address after posting or editing an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sporto0013 (talk • contribs) 00:39, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

It should be hidden automatically as long as you are logged in. You cannot hide it if you are not logged in. RudolfRed (talk) 00:58, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

If you accidentally posted while not logged in, and would like your IP address hidden, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Revision_deletion#How_to_request_Revision_Deletion--SPhilbrick(Talk) 01:14, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Rosa Diamante

There is a large section (Detailed Cast Description / SPOILER As of About 2 Weeks Into the Telenovela) where the content itself was copied word for word, and it came from a online forum, yet it was used as a source. Is that even allowed? Platinum Star (talk) 01:01, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Forums are not considered a reliable source. And copying large swaths of text is a copyright violation. I've removed the entire section. Feel free to replace the text with something better. Dismas|^(talk) 01:16, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Much thanks. Platinum Star (talk) 03:10, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Wrap in ToC

Is there a reason some of the items in a table of contents is wrapping around to a new line? I was editing List of Suits characters and a draft overhaul of the page User:TenTonParasol/Sand, and item 1.5 Jessica Pearson wraps around so it looks like:

1.4 Rachel Zane
1.5 Jessica
Pearson

1.6 Donna Paulsen

Is it just me? I use the latest version of Chrome on a 1366x768 resolution. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 01:47, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't see any wrapping on either page, IE8/Win7 RudolfRed (talk) 01:48, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

So It's just me. Thanks! ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 01:49, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

It's not just you. There's a problem with line breaks in Category titles, as well. There was a post about it somewhere else, maybe in Village Pump, just the other day. Are you using Chrome? I see the problem you're reporting, too, and I'm using Chrome version 21. 69.62.243.48 (talk) 23:32, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it's apparently an issue with Chrome at some zoom levels. The category version of what seems like the same issue is discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Categories in Google Chrome. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:49, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Editors/groups with an agenda

Hi, folks. I'm not sure if this is the right venue to ask this questions, but I'll give it a try anyway. I've been active in Wikipedia for quite a while and often edit and add to articles. I've recently happened onto some subjects where an editor or group of editors seem to have an agenda and block or challenge every addition or change to an article. They may also campaign to get the article deleted, regardless of evidence and citations that support notability and the veracity of information. I'm currently involved in an attempted discussion at Stephanie Adams, and one of the editors has left a warning template on my page suggesting I'm a sockpuppet. I gather this is a personal attack? How do I deal with this? Is there some policy within Wikipedia to handle predatory editors and concerted group agendas? Pkeets (talk) 03:55, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

The note on your webpage is not a personal attack. It appears to be a concern that you are using multiple accounts, which is not allowed, although the editor does not say which other accounts are involved. If you run into an issue while trying to edit an article, follow the steps at WP:DR to resolve it. RudolfRed (talk) 04:12, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not using multiple accounts, and the warning comes off like a personal attack. I'll review WP:DR. Pkeets (talk) 04:17, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Good luck with that article. It's been a battleground for years. Literally years. Dismas|^(talk) 07:16, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Santa Paula Airport

The map of the airport is of Santa Monica Municipal Airport, not Santa Paula Airport. I have edited text before but never a map and can't figure out how to do it. I'm not very computer savvy.

184.189.234.105 (talk) 04:01, 4 August 2012 (UTC)Dennis

Do you mean the locator map at Santa Paula Airport? It looks okay to me. The other image has both Santa Monica and Santa Paula on it. RudolfRed (talk) 04:09, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

It was the one above the locator map, here. It was for Santa Monica Airport. I'll tag it at Commons for renaming. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 05:09, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Changing incorrect information on my profile.

I need help with changing the location of the high school I attended. My profile reads I graduated from Buckeye High School, Media, Ohio and that is incorrect. I graduated from Buckeye High School, Deville, LA. Im sure this is very simple task but for some reson I just am not able to figure this out on my own. Thank You, Melissa Ferrington — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.173.27 (talk) 04:59, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Which article are you looking at? It's not under the title Melissa Ferrington. But, to your question: you can edit it yourself, but read the conflict of interest guidelines first. Or, you can raise the issue on the article's talk page RudolfRed (talk) 05:02, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

The IP was modifying Buckeye High School (Medina, Ohio) to make it about her school. I've reverted her changes. The article she wants is in fact Buckeye High School, Deville, Louisiana Rojomoke (talk) 05:57, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Which profile are you referring to? If it's a Facebook page then Wikipedia has no control over Facebook or how they use our content, and you shouldn't change the subject of a Wikipedia article in an attempt to influence Facebook. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:41, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Place for discussing changes to watchlist style script

I use the watch-list script listed at Wikipedia:Customizing watchlists#Alternative styling that shows pages I haven't visited since the last change in italics. Where would be the correct place to propose changes / improvements to this script? I would like to have an option to manually set a change on my watchlist back to unread, even though I visited the page. Should I ping the user who developed the script? If that is the case, whom do I need to go to? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 07:27, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

some queries

I need some help on editting a movie article. If anybody wants to help,plz reply then i will ask further.--Zeeyanketu ✉ 07:39, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Whether I want (or can) help or not depends on what exactly you need help with. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 07:43, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Request for advice

I had a quick look at Template:Animation studios. Many of the articles linked in this template have a similar shape: An introductory sentence stating that it is an animation studio followed by a list of productions or works the company is involved with. Take a look at Gallop (studio), Hal Film Maker, Nomad (company), Radix (studio), Triangle Staff Hong Ying Animation for example. Now I know that I could drop a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga. I don't know if these articles even CAN be expanded into encyclopedic articles or not. I will see what I can do to improve them. Should I drop a note at the WikiProject talkpage? I know that Wikipedia is a work in progress, but the current shape of those articles seems inappropriate on WP:ORG grounds. So what is the best approach to get help with improving such a rather large number of articles to a state where it becomes an encyclopedic article? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 10:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Problems with other users

What can you do when you make changes to a Wikipedia entry but another person undoes this change repeatedly? What can I do when I think the change needs to be a part of that Wikipedia entry?

Is there a way to report this user, how and where can I do this?

Or is there a way to let other users decide whether this information should remain on the site?

Any help is greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sunpoint (talk • contribs) 12:32, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and don't edit war. It looks like the only editor repeating their change is you. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:40, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Mr. Wales contact info

Dear Wikipedia Editor's Community;

I am in urgent a need to contact Mr Jimmy Wales. Provide me by you, please number of telephone and address of E-Mail belonging to Mr. Wales?

In Confidence, Wu Xianfang, Harbin, People's Republic of China — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.151.197.12 (talk) 17:56, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

There's some contact information near the bottom of the page User:Jimbo Wales. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:00, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Dear Mr. Wu, you may contact Wikimedia Foundation (not sure if you'll reach Mr. Wales or not) on +1-415-839-6885 or by E-mail: jwales@wikia.com. Also see info in Chinese: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/%E3%83%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%9A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8 Zaminamina (talk) 19:40, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

You may contact Jimmy Wales, but several general questions can be answered here. What are you having troubles with? SwisterTwister talk 22:34, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Tiger versus lion

Uh, so how long does i take for you all to edit what I asked? Please get back to me at (removed) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Golden Prime (talk • contribs) 18:40, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

If you are referring to Talk:Tiger versus lion, another user will respond shortly. Additionally, please refrain from adding your email address. Responses will be given here, not email. SwisterTwister talk 18:43, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

There was already a reply at Talk:Tiger versus lion#Edit request on 3 August 2012 long before you posted here. Please make any follow-up posts there. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:47, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

A full list of LaTeX commands

I'm writing a JavaScript code that does something with LaTeX, and to complete it I need the full list of LaTex commands used in Wikipedia. I've already seen Help:Displaying a formula, but I've encountered a few commands before that weren't listed there, and I prefer a list that doesn't include other, non-LaTex stuff. Where can I find this information? Thanks a lot, 19:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.179.222.16 (talk)

Request for feedback

I'm Realthreetwo, and I'm not exactly new to Wikipedia, as I have a friend who's an admin here and has showed me the ways of Wikipedia - Jarry's on vacation now, so I'm requesting feedback on my edits (like how I could improve). Thanks!m Realthreetwo (talk) 19:39, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

If you want a review, you can use editor review, but if you don't have many contributions there won't be much to judge. FloBo A boat that can float! 07:11, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Python

I created a bot Kolega2357-Bot, bot not working. What should I do in Python to be able to work more on Wikipedia? Greeting! --Kolega2357 (talk) 20:12, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

The programming of bots is a bit out of the scope of this page. WP:BOT should help you out more including pointing you to resources. Dismas|^(talk) 23:35, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Is there a place to discuss articles on Wikipedia?

Somewhat like a forum? I know there's Talk pages, but those aren't the same thing. Giggybyte (talk) 20:17, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

No. Wikipedia is not a forum. RudolfRed (talk) 20:20, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

K. Giggybyte (talk) 20:26, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Try googling "wikipedia review"♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand why the talk page isn't sufficient for discussing an article. They are not for discussions about the subject of the article (beyond what is necessary to article-building). For instance, I wouldn't write at Talk:Tom Hanks about how I like Tom Hanks, but if I had some observations or questions about the article itself, I would take them there. BigNate37_(T) 22:31, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

August 5

Regarding FLC and FAC

Are you allowed to have an FLC and an FAC open at the same time; in which you are the sole nominator of both? Thanks, TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 01:41, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't see how a page can be both an article and a list at the same time. I might be inclined to change when shown an example. I don't see any problem with it. FloBo A boat that can float! 07:10, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

That's not what I meant. Let's say I developed List of ... to FL quality, and I also developed Article to FA quality. Can I nominate them both in their respective categories? TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 07:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I started correcting myself before you replied. See above. FloBo A boat that can float! 07:16, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the response! TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 07:26, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

data flow diagram

how i can make data flow diagram for an online help desk of a campus? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.168.31.32 (talk) 07:24, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Caravanim

Hi, this page was originally called Caravan (Israel). A user blanked and repasted the page to Caravanim, deleting the entire page history. Who do I contact to right the situation? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 08:08, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

I reverted the blanking of Caravan (Israel) and tagged Caravanim for speedy deletion as an incorrectly done copy-paste move. Roger (talk) 08:25, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I contacted the user who blanked the page, suggesting that he ask for consensus on the move before moving anything again. Yoninah (talk) 08:27, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Such a move is in any case against the rules "caravanim" is simply the plural of "caravan" thus not allowed. So please don't suggest that such a move would ever be allowed. Roger (talk) 08:33, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

HOW DO I GET A PAGE ABOUT ME ON WIKIPEDIA?

CAN YOU TELL ME PLEASE,I AM POET ARTIST — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.42.238 (talk) 09:20, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

First don't SHOUT. Second, check WP:GNG whether you meet the criteria. Third, it is better if someone another writes a biography for you, see WP:COI. A good introduction page is WP:WIZARD. Regards.--Kürbis (✔) 09:23, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Can redirects be ProDed?

Such as a newly created WP:XNR...