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300m
Usain Bolt 300m record - 30.97
date:27/05/2010
source:
http://www.zlatatretra.cz/results.asp?season=2010&typ=r&eventid=0030041
http://www.zlatatretra.cz/download/results2010.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKnt7xQnfns
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Threelight (talk • contribs) 01:42, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
WR vs. WB ?
I suspect WR stands for World Record, but what does WB mean? (World Best? Is it different than World Record?) It should maybe be more clearly defined somewhere on the page or in the chart (for people like me who don't know the difference).
* 100 m: 9.58 s (WR) * 150 m: 14.35 s (WB) * ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.32.153.30 (talk) 03:20, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- "World records" are all-time bests in events recognized by the IAAF. All-time bests in all other events (such as 150 m) are "world bests". GregorB (talk) 19:54, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- You can find it at the bottom of the article page under references number 5 the definition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DAVERYANCARINO (talk • contribs) 04:58, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Cristiano Ronaldo
The article states that Bolt gave sprinting lessons to "Portugal captain" Cristiano Ronaldo at Manchester United's Carrington training ground. Cristiano Ronaldo is not the Captain of the Portugese Football team —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.14.19 (talk) 17:07, 14 August 2009 (UTC) Zawdie (talk) 12:34, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Cristiano is the captain of portugal. Change it back, its correct and I think vaguely significant. 66.229.93.164 (talk) 23:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
New World Record
I'm apparently not 'established' enough, could someone edit the record to 9.58 at the Berlin World Championships. -Blue Sam3 (talk) 19:52, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
ON SECTION Personal bests
the 100m record isnt marked as OR, when its one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.184.71.206 (talk) 20:03, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
On the Achievements section it said "Bolt's personal best of 9.69 seconds" whereas it should say "Bolt's personal best of 9.58" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.231.154 (talk) 20:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
education
educational background —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.98.98 (talk) 20:33, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Spelling consistency
Metres is spelled both "metres" and "meters" (one occasion only when referencing his 9.69s Olympic time) both in the first paragraph. 92.1.89.173 (talk) 22:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, that should be corrected. But you should also read the guidelines. The guidelines say that it is NOT "9.69s", but "9.69 s". Just like it should be "100 m", not "100m"... 68.200.98.166 (talk) 23:28, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
37.59 km/h or 10.44 m/s
His 100 m average speed was 37.59 km/h or 10.44 m/s when he broke the world record in 9.58 seconds. However, during the 2010 USA vs. World Penn Relays, Usian Botl ran his 4 X 100 meter leg in 8.79 seconds. Shouldn't this be included? --Schwarzschachtel (talk) 08:01, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Isn't that with a running start though? Caseykcole (talk) 18:08, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes, Caseykcole - He was already in motion when they switched so that can't possibly count. Aediasse (talk) 12:23, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Average speed is fairly worthless for 100 meters at any rate, since top speed during the race is a considerably higher figure; it is unclear what is meant by "can't possibly count:" count in terms of what? At any rate, 10-meter splits are available for the 100, and these clearly demonstrate a top-speed figure of well over 40 km/h. Average-speed figures are a bit abstract for the 100, really indicating nothing at all, as Bolt's actual running speed was at the average for a mere split second, while he held a speed above 40 km/h for more than 50 meters —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.8.66 (talk) 19:06, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Bolt's 60-80 meter time of 1.61 (during the 9.58 WR) is 12.42 m/s, or 44.72 km/h, or 27.78 miles per hour, which is a much more representative figure than the average speed.
Please change to MPH and not KPH, Its only America in the whole world who uses KPH, Its too hard to work out for the rest of the globe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.97.42 (talk) 02:08, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Statistics > Pers Best
HI, "Statistics -> Personal bests -> 100M -> Notes" is incorrect. Gay, the second yesterday did also beat Bolts previous record, so he currently holds the second best time.
Janmarques (talk) 10:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Uuhhh, no he didn't. Bolt's previous record was 9.69. Gay "only" managed 9.71. Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
NJR/WJR
These acronyms are used but not explained. I'm guessing they mean "National Junior Record" and "World Junior Record", but it's not very clear to someone who doesn't follow these things closely. Perhaps someone could clarify this in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.196.53 (talk) 00:36, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
to add later
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/athletics/8206590.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.60.2.34 (talk) 05:42, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Achievements
Isn't Bolt the only man to have broken the 100m WR 3 times, not just equal it, like Carl Lewis. If so, this should be added to the achievement list. Ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_100_metres_world_record_progression —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.175.184.145 (talk) 13:57, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
9.30 @ 200m
In the section on Personal Bests article says "Also holds the second fastest time with 9.30, which is the Olympic Record." next to the 200m distance, which probably should be 19.30 as elsewhere in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.232.234.3 (talk) 19:57, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Height
It seems all most universally accepted that he is 6ft 5 inches or 1.96cm however on his IAAF profile he is listed as 1.93cm which is 6ft 4. One would assume the height that he enters races under and so on feeds into the listing that he is shown with on the IAAF site. Should he actually be listed as 6ft 4?--194.125.106.136 (talk) 22:23, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
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This article says that Usain Bolt has not been beaten since July 22, 2008, which is misleading. Usain Bolt came 2nd in the Quarter Finals at the 2009 IAAF World Championships in Berlin; this sentence should be removed altogether.
When it says beaten it means in finals, the earlier rounds are just to get to the final and don't matter tbh. He hasn't been beaten at the end of a competition since then.84.67.191.39 (talk) 10:15, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
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template. Celestra (talk) 15:03, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
It strikes me that, in terms of things you'd want to include in an encyclopedia entry, one of the more significant facts about Bolt is that guys his height usually don't succeed at very short distance sprinting. That's attributed, often, to the difficulty of starting quickly for a tall guy. During the Olympics many of the commentators said his results started coming once he radically improved his starting technique. If that's true (I don't follow athletics ("track-and-field" in the US!) well enough to know), it seems to me to merit inclusion high-up in this article.Shayanakadidal (talk) 22:14, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Records
The article states that 9.58 is the fastest legal time ever recorded over 100m. It's important to highlight that 9.58 over 100m is the fastest time legal or illegal.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.78.40.162 (talk) 06:31, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
In the records section, the following sentence is no longer correct: "The Jamaican relay team including Bolt, set the 4x100 metres world and Olympic records at the 2008 Olympics with a time of 37.10 seconds. This is the only run in the IAAF top ten performances which was not set by an American team.[152]" The Jamiacan team's run in Berlin, 2009, is also a top ten performance. ~Kilu~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.146.29.42 (talk) 10:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
This sentence, "Bolt also holds the second fastest time of 9.69 seconds (more precisely 9.683),[76] the current Olympic record.[78]" is no longer correct, as Bolt ran 9.63 to win the 100m final at the 2012 Olympics, and that time of 9.63 is now the second fastest in history. ~~David Graham, 5 August 2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.152.183.254 (talk) 02:23, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Both world and olympic titles in 2009
The article states that "At the 2008 Olympics he....became the first athlete to hold both the world and olympic 100 and 200m titles." He was not the world champion in both those events going into the olympics; rather, he just recently (August 2009) became the first athlete to hold both the world and olympic titles in the 100 and 200m events. 114.206.75.109 (talk) 14:32, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
- I noticed the same without seeing your post here and fixed it in [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:53, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Sporting Heroes
The article asserts that Usain Bolt would have been a fast bowler had he not been a sprinter, but on TMS yesterday the claim was made that he held Courtney Walsh as a hero. Is there any other evidence for this? Of course Courtney was a former West Indies fast bowler for those who do not follow Cricket. Soarhead77 (talk) 10:37, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
References in popular culture
Should there be a section for Usain Bolt references in popular culture? At least Finnish band, Don Johnson Big Band, made a song dedicated to him titled "Running Man."
Usain Bolt's 9.69 is the third fastest 100m of all time, not second
Tyson Gay's 9.69 run in Shanghai last year was also 9.69, and was thousandths of a second below Bolt's previous WR of 9.69. This gives Bolt the 1st and 3rd best 100m runs of all time, not 1st and 2nd like indicated in the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.133.138.21 (talk) 19:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thousandths of a second is unofficial. The two 9.69 runs share 2nd place. See [2]. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:53, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't the time be marked as "officially" 2nd, then? Claiming he has the second fastest time exclusively (as implied) when he really doesn't is pretty silly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.133.138.21 (talk) 04:45, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Weight
The link in the infobox to Bolt's weight specifies 95kgs for his weight, but the IAAF gives a weight of 86kgs. It's not unusual for different sources to give different measurements for athletes, but nearly 10kgs is a HUGE difference. It's not possible he's put on this much muscle since being weighed/given his weight to the IAAF, is it? Which is the correct weight? --Criticalthinker (talk) 05:59, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
I can precisly calculate his weight. 15 years fin boys weighting ~50 kg of height 170-175 cm, they have no muscles, no "sheets" and they called out of normal weight succers, where index is 50/1.75^2=16.33 or 50/1.7^2=17.30, while "normal" index is 18.5-25, amybe such calculations are good for 150-165 gnoms, but not for high mans, if height grews linarly mass grews cubicly indeed. So such light but yet normal schoolboys of height 173 cm say weighting 50 kg (I know it), so Bolt weight should be 50*(195/173)^3=71.6 kg. How much wrong mass he have? Well either 95/71.6=1.3268 it's 32.68% or 86/71.6=1.20 it's 20% of no needed weight. Bolt height is 195/173=1.127, 12.7% bigger than 173 cm man height, but unneeded mass oe 33%, oe 20% bigger. This means, that 173 cm man of mass 50 kg is faster than he is in untranied condition. Except one thing can give Bolt advantage over 173 cm, 50 kg man, which is, that air resistance to him is smaller (in proportional height grewing meaning), because force and mass grews cubicly when height grews linarly, but body surface grews square. Also his head by proportions is little bit lighter than 173 cm man maximized proportionaly head and can be little bit shorter, so his shoulders can be little bit higher by proportios and then we can calculate his height as he is say up to 200 cm, but even at 200 cm his speed would be only 200/173=1.156, 15.6 % bigger, but then he would have less uneeded mass it's means, because body mass more counts in total mass than head mass at same length (of body/legs or head), then his mass like normal intuitivly can be puted not like 71.6 kg compare with 173 cm 50 kg man, but as some 75 kg, but still even 86/75=1.14667, 14.7% faster, but not as good as 15.6%. And that I this little mass addition calculate correct you intuitivly can find out from this 50*(200/173)^3=77.254 kg, so his mass index of running schoolboy can't be more than 77 kg even because of his sort(er) and light head. But air resistance, I think it's can be as his final bonus to run as fast as 1.73 cm 50kg man and also with helping it he could make one of his world record (I mean wind;). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.59.24.214 (talk) 13:04, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
In most places his weight is 86 kg, 88 kg, 89 kg and in one http://jamaicaathletics.org/Progression/men/usain_bolt.html even 75 kg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.59.24.214 (talk) 14:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
- Is anyone else impressed that the above contributor has managed to deduce the mass of Usain Bolt from elementary knowledge. This should be peer-reviewed and submitted for the Nobel for Medicine (or, failing that, the Ig Nobel). --Nucleusboy (talk) 19:55, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah LOL at the scientific analysis. I'm virtually the same height and weigh about 210 and have low body fat. I think 210 pounds is more believable for Bolt than 190. 190 really is very skinny for a 6'5" guy. I'd say he is definately over 200. Dr. Blofeld White cat 20:11, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
If there's a Nobel Prize for Alchemy, that bit of speculative mathematical nonsense will win.
An IAAF page just cited by an anonymous editor appears to give his weight as 76 kg, which is inexplicable -- I have reverted this. – Smyth\talk 12:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Johnson says he should try 400m
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/athletics/8557311.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.232.42 (talk) 16:59, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
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Top speed
Someone had a section as top speed. It was calculated by taking the average speed from Usain's blocks start. This is average speed. I've changed the title to average speed for now but makes it a slightly pointless entry. Perhaps someone can get some data closing in on Usain's actual top speed speculating that he is also the fastest peak/top speed. Maybe a 50m to 70m split time? I believe peak speed is somewhere in the region of 27mph rather than an average of 23. Something like http://www.sportsscientists.com/2008/08/beijing-2008-men-100m-race-analysis.html --Chrisjwowen (talk) 23:24, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- At major championship meets they frequently do take FAT times for every 10 meters down the track. I have not seen the data on Bolt's Berlin performance, but it might exist.Trackinfo (talk) 06:18, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
- I believe you're looking for this. SFB 11:47, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
So, a 60-80 time of 1.61 is 12.42 m/s, or 44.72 km/h, or 27.78 miles per hour, which is a much more representative figure than the average speed.
Does Usain Bolt have African Islamic ancestry?
I think it would be interesting to discover whether Usain Bolt had African Islamic ancestry- possibly as a result of the Atlantic slave trade. This info if proven could be added to the “Early years” section of the article. I only raise this issue as a possibility because I find it quite strange that he as well as his siblings have the following names:
- Usain- this is a derivative name of Husayn 1, which is a very popular Islamic name for boys.
- Sadeeki- this is a Swahili word derived from the Arabic word sadeek or sadik 2, 3, which is not a common first name but common in titles or surnames of male Muslims.
- Sherine- the name Sherine is originally a Persian female name that was later adopted by the Arabs.
Why were they all named these Arab or Islamic affiliated names? If not for a distant African Muslim ancestry then perhaps there is another interesting reason for this, which could be added to the article.Artefactual (talk) 08:14, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Those are some interesting thoughts. I'll keep me eye out and see if any investigation is being done on this topic. SFB 11:47, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I suspect looking for African Muslim ancestry may be barking up the wrong tree: one consequence of the slave trade was the loss of cultural identity, even at the very fundamental level of language and (to a lesser extent, see Obeah) religion. What about the very strong cultural influence of Shia Islam on Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica, and other parts of the Caribbean), via indentured laborers from British India. See e.g. the article on the festival Hosay (Hussay in Jamaica), which although celebrated by all ethnic communities and lacking explicit religious rather than cultural significance for most of them, actually developed as a variant of the Shia festival of Ashura - in honor of Husayn, of course. This is essentially speculation, of course, but at first sight the fact that Shia-influenced names might be more common in Jamaica than e.g. Puerto Rico, seems much more likely than the "African Islamic origin" hypothesis. I'm tentative about the WP:RS value, but the Jamaica Star Online says "The name 'Usain' was picked out for the sprinter by his aunt, Betsy Davis. When The Star contacted her yesterday, she said that she could not immediately recall what the name meant, jokingly stating it was 22 years ago that she chose it. She did, however, mention that the runner's pet name, 'Vijay', was a Hindi word/name meaning 'victory'." I've seen that article referenced elsewhere in other newspapers, but that seems to be the original source. Take it with a pinch of salt if you will, but it doesn't sound as if Bolt's parents (Wellesley and Jennifer) had suddenly discovered Islamic ancestry and named him in honor of it. TheGrappler (talk) 04:57, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know anything about his ancestry, but given that he makes the sign of the cross after he races, I think it's safe to conclude that his religion is Christianity and not Islam. I'm guessing his family simply liked non-Western names. 12.239.145.114 (talk) 06:27, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
The question is not about whether Usain Bolt makes the sign of the cross. It's about his parents and the other people who named him. He was born in the 1980s, back in a time when blacks were still not ashamed to be Muslim. Remember Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Jamaal Wilkes? It is possible (in fact, going by the names Usain and Sadeeki it is more than probable) that his parents had Muslim leanings when they named their children. The aunt's statement, that she has forgotten why she gave him such an odd, non-Christian name, holds no water. In fact, it would be interesting to see his birth certificate. It might even say Husain. So, Usain Bolt may make the sign of the cross. The question is: what were his parents thinking when they named him and his brother Usain and Sadeeki, and his sister Sherine? (Common spellings in English: Husain, Saddiqqui, Shereen) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.106.30.206 (talk) 00:16, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
In addition, it must be pointed out that although he makes the sign of the cross before the race, after the race he goes down on his knees and touches his forehead to the ground, the Muslim manner of prayer. A look at the London Olympic final will verify this. It would be very interesting if he would deal with the issue of his name in his autobiography.
Fansite
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Hello, i love the article and i dont want to change anything. I would like to however add my fanpage to the external links, if you could please help me with this i would be super happy.
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Not done: please review WP:ELNO The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 15:34, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
PACE Sports Management
Usain Bolt's agent is Ricky Simms and he is managed by PACE Sports Management, www.pacesportsmanagement.com. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ricky Simms (talk • contribs) 11:50, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Edit request, year of birth
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Please change the year under personal information from 1988 to 1986.
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Change non-working link
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Pwesolek (talk) 08:16, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I messed up a link: it was pointing to season best, not all time best. The correct link is:
- Re-done. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 15:00, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
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I just wish to add something in the Personal Bests section.
PiotrMahey (talk) 16:48, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
- Then you need to either specify here what you wanted added, or request to be Confirmed at WP:PERM so you can do it yourself--Jac16888 Talk 17:15, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
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First paragraph: He is not the reigning World Champion in the 100 m anymore. --193.182.52.250 (talk) 11:38, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
- I have removed the World Champion from that statement. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 12:48, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Way too much?
This article is tremendously detailed. Perhaps there's simply too much information in it? At the VERY least, I would suggest more and better sections/subsections.
-- Brhiba (talk) 23:37, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
But then again, at the opening ceremonies to the 2012 Summer Olympics, Usain Bolt was described as the "greatest sports person in the world" - so one would expect a lot of detail here. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:08, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Edit Request: Unclosed Parenthesis, 20 May 2012
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Second paragraph: In the first sentence, there is an unclosed parenthesis
- Fixed Thanks. Dru of Id (talk) 09:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 27 June 2012
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Please change the text: Sportspro has rated Usain Bolt as the 4th most remarkable athelete in the world.
Should read: Sportspro has rated Usain Bolt as the 4th most marketable athelete in the world.
Reference 13. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/off-the-field/MS-Dhoni-Mary-Kom-worlds-16th-38th-most-marketable-athletes/articleshow/14415674.cms 75.128.53.153 (talk) 04:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
- Done A slightly different meaning, huh? Thanks for pointing out the error. Rivertorch (talk) 06:24, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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Mistake
seven athletes (along with Valerie Adams, Veronica Campbell-Brown, Jacques Freitag, Yelena Isinbayeva, Jana Pittman, Dani Samuels) to win world championships at the youth, junior, and senior level of an athletic event.
David Storl has to be included.
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- Not done including Storl would require a Reliable Sources (RS); re-activate if you can cite such a verifiable source. Dru of Id (talk) 09:14, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
"The Honourable"
Why is Bolt entitled to use this honorific title? 101090ABC (talk) 11:13, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
Edit request, father of baby girl
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Usain is the father of baby girl born 2011 name A’Naiyah Bolt with TOYA otherwise know as LUCKY CHARM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.216.88 (talk) 15:40, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
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The 150 meter record in Manchester, UK for Usain Bolt you indicated in wikipedia he did 100 meters in 8.70. This needs to be clarified as his 8.70 speed was measured from 50 meters to 150 meterss, or the flying 100 meters. reference: http://www.iaaf.org/lrr09/news/newsid=50606.html
68.231.75.42 (talk) 14:33, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Requests need to be "change X to Y", not"change X". Mdann52 (talk) 18:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
2012
Yay, he won gold 2012 in 100m and broke an olympic record! Go Usain!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.50.23.58 (talk) 20:56, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
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On 5th august 2012, Bolt ran the 100m in an olympic record time of 9.64 seconds.
9.63 actually Harrison du Plessis (talk) 21:26, 5 August 2012 (UTC) TinyTemper (talk) 20:58, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. RudolfRed (talk) 01:22, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
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