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thanks for...
...edits on Schwinn, and clever "frame" link on Bicycle. I visited by college son last weekend, mentioned that I had read an interesting Schwinn book, and he interrupted me to say, "Y'know, theyre selling them at "Target" stores now." Sfahey 02:26, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- No problem. It's too bad Schwinn is in the mass market now, after such a history. --Christopherlin 04:48, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
- Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
- Multi-Licensing Guide
- Free the Rambot Articles Project
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
- Option 1
- I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
- {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}
OR
- Option 2
- I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
- {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)
Medline and MedlinePLUS
Hi, removed your merge as these two resources target separate audiences. Medline is a search engine for health professionals and researchers for professional journals which are very technical. MedlinePLUS is a compilation of resources and links for health consumers or patients screened by medical librarians at the National Library of Medicine to be less technical and more understandable for most people. While they both have the name Medline, they are very different and should be separate articles. thanks Petersam 05:44, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Good to have you back ...
... on "Bicycle". I don't recall if you were involved last year when this article got VERY good. I nominated it for "feature" and shepherded it through the process. It missed making it due to one guy who DIDN'T LIKE THE PICTURE and another (who I am sure will reappear) who insists on a lot of sociological stuff, which becomes so POV and debatable that it makes consensus very difficult. I believe he is also the one who keeps putting that goofy (European-only) "legal issues" stuff at the front of the "technical"(?) section. This guy voted OBJECT separately for each piddling objection, so that it looked like the article went down 8-6 instead of 8-1 or 8-2. Hope it makes it back. Sfahey 16:11, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Finale
As it happens, I *did* do a search for finale first, and that page failed to come up for some reason.
But perhaps, while changing the wikilink was called for, changing the original page to a redirect was a bit abrupt? --Baylink 15:01, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Well, clearly I should have looked further to see if there was already a page. I guess the guideline I'd suggest is "If you're going to whack an entire page -- even to redirect it to something which serves its purpose -- discussion is indicated. The fewer contributors to said page, the more important it probably is." :-) I try not to have too much ego, and to assume good faith, but it can be hard, sometimes.
- OTOH: clearly, it wasn't *that* important to me, since I haven't gone back and merged my copy in. :-} --Baylink 05:54, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
South Florida
I reverted your category sorting for USF, because the university is never known as Florida South. Mike H 22:31, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
Bicycle frame
I think you made a mistake in merging Seat Stay onto Talk:Bicycle frame instead of Bicycle frame. Or did you want to do further editing before actually adding the material into Bicycle frame? Julius.kusuma 11:06, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I was merging the other ones, and then saw that you had added a photo and more information. I wasn't sure how to handle that new info without majorly reworking the flow of bicycle frame. If you'd like, go ahead and handle it. By the way, nice Cyfac. It seems that's the source of the frame detail pictures? I think Wikipedia likes photo copyright tags, as well. --Christopherlin 14:18, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I did realize that you were going to merge the material, but I added some stuff just because :-). I'm not sure the best way to do the merging, but some some re-organization is in order for sure. I'm thinking that Bicycle frame should be more brief in coverage of bicycle frame material, so maybe Bicycle frame material can be its own article, since a lot of the knowledge is shared between the many types of bicycles. Then Bicycle frame itself can focus on the geometry/design, sans material consideration. Let me know what you think, and I'll work with you on it. The photos are all taken by me, of my Cyfac, so no problem with copyright issues. Thanks. Julius.kusuma 14:39, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Edit summary
Hello. Please remember to always provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy edits. Hyacinth 08:23, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Quick Question from Accepted UW Academy Student
Hey Christopherlin, I know it's a small chance, but just out of curiosity, do you go to the UW Academy? There is a person with a very similar name who went there.
Simfish 19:51, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- No, I don't. But gifted education is one of my interests; that's why I cat'ed the article. Christopherlin 23:53, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
I see. Simfish 19:51, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
WikiProject on Cycling
I noticed you made a number of contribs to cycling and cycle racing articles. Would you like to join the WikiProject on Cycling? --Christopherlin 14:31, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Thanks; I'd be happy to participate if I can make a useful contribution. I'm not Samuel Abt or Bob Roll, but I am a fan, a native English speaker and a part-time writer. So far I've mostly just touched up a few articles on famous riders: Hinault was a little disjointed; Indurain too short; Cipo too bland. It may sometimes look as if I've re-written the whole thing, but I actually just added some content and then re-structured the expanded article while keeping most or all of the original language. I also couldn't resist adding a new 'Culture and Customs' section to the Tour de France entry, even though it was already a long article. If I can help in a more coordinated way just let me know where to start.
On a completely different topic, I have figured out a lot of the Wiki tags (e.g. bold, italic) but I haven't found a complete list. They're not html, although they sometimes look like it. I might even be able to learn how to indent in situations like this.
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WikiProject on Cycling
I'm a novice Wikipedia writer, so bear with me. I'm not sure where to comment on the WikiProject, so I'm putting something here for now.
As a "utility cyclist" I would suggest a less racing-centric hierarchy for this project. This would include:
- Top-level sections for "Competitive Cycling," "Utility Cycling" and "Recreational Cycling."
- Moving the top-level bicycle racing section into the Competitive Cycling section.
- Moving the top-level cyclists section into the Competitive Cycling section.
- Possibly even moving the Bicycle parts section into the Bicycles section - this seems too technical to be at the top level of a general article. But perhaps that's my bias - I'm always trying to keep novice cyclists from losing interest when the conversation turns too technical...
The utility cycling pages seem to be chaotic and bogged down in politics, of course... I'm not sure if I want to wade into that fray myself yet.
Drpritch 21:51, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
no support for open source alternatives?
Hi, on 9/2 @ 1:12, I believed you removed an edit to the MCAT page regarding a study tool alternative. Is there a particular reason why the reference to mcatpearls.com was removed? It seems no less advertisement than the brick and mortar references and is itself an open-source project that embodies Wiki's mission. Alfa Diallo 16:47, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
- Hm... Dunno. I didn't really look at the link. If you want to readd it, I won't complain. I'd suggest putting it as an external link, without making an internal wikipedia link. I hope that makes sense. --Christopherlin 05:19, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Changes made, external link added until a Wiki topic created. Is it customary to reject page edits without reviewing them? Alfa Diallo
- See Wikipedia:Importance and Wikipedia:Notability for why a wiki article on the site might not last long. Did you make the edit? Do you maintain the mcatpearls website? As far as "rejecting": When I saw it, it seemed rather suspect because it was from an anon IP and tried to link to a non-existent article. List of websites has a lot of trouble with people spamming that. But don't let this discourage you. Wiki takes some practice. --Christopherlin 02:34, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
I moved it to National Merit Scholarship, where I expanded it. I don't think its really big enough to get a stub.--naryathegreat | (talk) 23:40, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
Leave Harry Alone
Harry wants this post. It is what he stands for. Please do not interfere, interloper. Emersoni is in this dorm and a known adversary of Mr. Atlman. We are merely trying to protect the poor lad from his viscious attempts at pederast.
Thank You
Thank you for the edits on the Honda Campus All-Star Challenge article. I'm still new at this, but I just couldn't stand to see that spartan article remain...well....spartan. I'll get the hang of editing sooner or later. Tenza 16:37, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
Yep, certainbly needs a POV cleanup. It's a fair cop, and I said so on the talk page right at the beginning. Unfortunately my POV makes it hard for me to do that... - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 10:20, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Category:Arrested Development characters
I've been going through Special:Uncategorizedcategories, and I notice you've blanked the Arrested Development characters category a couple times. It has to be deleted for some reason, not just blanked, or it makes more work for everyone. I see it survived a CfD, or I'd suggest that. Can you let me know what the problem with it is, so I can help figure out what to do with the category? Thanks, SCZenz 07:12, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
- The CfD was after a large-scale merge of Arrested Development character articles into a single list: "Only contains four articles, three of which I have tagged for merge into Characters from Arrested Development. ..." The list is in the category for the show, Category:Arrested Development (TV series). Somewhere I remember reading that blanking an unpopulated category was equivalent to deleting it. Looks like I have to brush up. :-> So, CfD?
- By the way, when were you at U. Chicago? I knew a few people who ended up there. --Christopherlin 20:54, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
- Blanking isn't the same as deletion for any article. If the category isn't needed, then you should mark it for speedy deletion with {{db}} or similar. If it's really empty, unused, and unneeded, it can certainly be speedied; I would have deleted it already, but thought I'd better ask about the past cfd first. I'll delete it now. Thanks for your reply.
- I was at the U of C 2000-2004. I majored in physics and math, and lived in Woodward Court and the Palevsky Central building, and did a lot with the University of Chicago Scavenger Hunt; that ought to be enough to figure out if I might ever have run into anyone you know. ;-) SCZenz 21:11, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying. I'll go over my old contribs and see if I did the same before.
- My friend was there from 1999-2003. She was in religious studies, and was in choir and a cappella groups. I think she was an RA in Maxwell house. A maybe. Dunno. --Christopherlin 03:24, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
manufacuterer vs cycling.
I had though about that for bicycle mechanic. Should it be a under cycling or bicycle manufacturer. A mechanic could be, and would be more considered the final making process of manufacturing. Hence I included it in the category bicycle manufactuer. I am leaving a copy of this on the discusion of that article. --CyclePat 23:13, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Cycling palmares template
Sorry I'm slow with this response. I just found your query (on WikiProject:Cycling). Probably a footnote would be the best way to present that info. I have experimented with some different formats for the curriculum vitae (palmares listings). For example, see the manner of presentation on Diana Ziliute where the results are in paragraph form with small national flags used as separators.
I'm actually more concerned about the general lack of proper biographical iinformation. Wikipedia guidelines, with which I agree entirely on this point, state that a curriculum vitae is not, by itself, a biography. Only about 10 to 15 percent of the women's cycle racing articles have what I would call adequate biographical treatments. There is also a strong systemic bias in such Wikipedia articles in favor of the more recent riders to the exclusion of those riders (even multiple world champions) from the past. JFPerry 15:20, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- I just footnoted the Palmares note on Genevieve Jeanson. Is that what you had in mind? It works for me.JFPerry
- Hm... I don't know. It does put the note in the head, which might mess up the #-linking. Well, in any case, I'll c&p the text into {{palmares note}} so that it can be changed if needed, and all the pages with the note will be updated at the same time. --Christopherlin 03:59, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Should the word palmares be defined in that note? JFPerry 16:58, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
- Up to you. I was just suggesting that the text be put in a template so any edits could be made without having to track down everywhere it appeared. Y'know? Thanks for putting the image into bicycle trainer, btw. --Christopherlin 04:22, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Photo developer
Thanks for sticking a merge tag on this. Lets see if anyone objects (or is prepared to do the job...) Bob aka Linuxlad 09:51, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Adminship
Christopher - I noticed that you've been around for a long time, started Wikiproject Cycling, and generally make good edits. Do you think that admin tools would be useful as you work on the encyclopedia? If so, I would be glad to nominate you at WP:RFA! -SCEhardT 00:28, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- Wow, thanks! The short answer would be sometimes and maybe. I'd like to read about/think about it for a bit, if that's all right. I'm going to read through WP:ADMIN and some of the pages linked from there; what else would you suggest? --Christopherlin 01:47, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Certainly; take all the time you want. The only other page I can think of that you might want to look at is Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list. However, don't get too overwhelmed by that. Most admins focus on a smaller area of Wikipedia - even though admins have a full set of functions, they are certainly not obligated to use them all. On the other hand, if you don't think you would use any of the admin functions, you should just stick with being a regular user. Hope this helps! -SCEhardT 05:03, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm interested. --Christopherlin 23:18, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Here you go! Just follow the instructions here and don't forget to update the time/date just before adding your nom to the RfA page. Someone has rearranged Template:RfA and it looks like yours will be the first with the new arrangement - just letting you know so you don't think something is wrong. Good luck! -SCEhardT 01:11, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Phlebotomy (modern) and Venipuncture
Merging the two articles is a good idea. The information in both overlaps. BrianGCrawfordMA 16:52, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I oftentimes when doing RC Patrol will place tags on articles that are poorly written or unencyclopedic. I also tag them with the {{expand}} tag. In only rare situations do I not my reasons why on the discussion page. When I tagged the article, it didn't hav emuch information and in fact I almost speedy deleted it as being nonsense. If you can figure out a way to make it better, that would be helpful.--MONGO 23:39, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Re: RfA vote
Thanks for making me aware of this. I just wanted to let you know that even though I voted oppose, I think you are a great editor. It is also nice that you dropped me a message and let me know about the RfA vote. I tend to have very high standards in voting (mostly because it is easier to become an admin than to be desysoped), but with some more experience spent in the Wikipedia space, I think you'd make a great administrator. Thanks again! --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 00:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
- Sure, no problem. I've certainly learned about other aspects of Wikipedia through this process. I'd like to AGF, and that Axiomm made a mistake. Thanks for weighing in and explaining. --Christopherlin 00:59, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Characters of The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants
Hello,
The only reason I wrote up an article for Lena is because someone started up a fictional characters section[1]. I was planning on writing up articles for the other characters too. :) ~Mallaccaos, 3 March 2006
- Just noticed that the fictional characters section[2] might be re-categorized. There is a discussion section up about I might check out. :) ~Mallaccaos, 4 March 2006
Changed User PGP
Template:User PGP now requires an offsite link instead of an internal Wikilink. This should help prevent the problem of a key being editable by anyone. I appreciate your suggestion! Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 04:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Your adminship nomination
It is with regret that I have to inform you that your nomination for adminship was not successful on this occasion. Consensus on rfa is between 75-80%. Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing your name on a nomination again in the future. -- Francs2000 11:36, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'll remain open to the possibility in the future. Do you have any suggestions on top of the concerns raised there? --Christopherlin 16:30, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for your thank you note. Drop me a note when you run again. Regards, gidonb 17:18, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Bad luck; standards at RFA seem to be getting very erratic these days, with people opposing for equal and opposite reasons (like, doesn't contribute to articles, vs. "only" contributes to articles). Alai 17:25, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, the only thing I can say is to do the best that you can do and never give anyone a reason to question your motives. And when things start going pear-shaped find a way to deal with it outside of this wee part of the world! -- Francs2000 18:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry that your RfA did not work out. You look like a good editor and I'm sure you're on the right track to becoming one. When you next go through the process again, please feel free to drop me a note on my talk page to draw my attention toward it. Happy wiking! --Cymsdale 23:53, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Wish you the best for the next one. --Kash 10:23, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I would like to wish you the best for your next RFA. I would also like to advise you to try again in about one or two months time. You will always have my support! --Siva1979Talk to me 15:50, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Best wish for your next RFA. You will still have support while I see no problems.--Jusjih 01:11, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Re: Images for deletion
Sorry, simple typo. — Hurricane Devon ( Talk ) 20:36, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
MRE
Found this, but nothing quite has the resolution with the contents displayed. Use google images and tack on "site:.mil" or "site:.gov" for goodies.. I had a look, and didn't find anything. ... aa:talk 20:46, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking and finding that. I guess I'll get a picture of the FRH alone while I'm at it. --Christopherlin 21:08, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Synchrotron light
I noticed that on the template Template:ArtificialLightSources, you added Synchrotron light -- good catch, thanks!
Atlant 17:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
- Sure. Feel free to recategorize it out of "other". I wouldn't have though of it had I not recently stumbled upon list of light sources, which is a list of synchrotron facilities. --Christopherlin 19:04, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
I have added a response to your vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ransom Notes. --Martyman-(talk) 21:43, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
public/private wikis
Hi--I saw your helpdesk comment about wikis with public sections and private sections. I've been looking for such a solution for a community wiki, where only a small number of pages can be exposed to the public. I'm very interested in anything you've found out about how to do that, if you're interested in sharing. Feel free to email me or respond here or on my talk page. Thanks! · rodii · 00:29, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the advice! :) Yeah, I live in a small community that's pretty web savvy. We are our own ISP with a campus-wide wireless network, we do a lot of stuff via web apps we write, and we use a wiki for everything, but a fairly crappy one. I've been scheming to replace it and our public site with mediawiki, but I haven't figured out how to do that without running two instances of the software. So if I could find some way to control access to a subset of the pages--or rather, to expose a few pages to the world and keep the rest accessible only by password, that would be great. Contacting the people at those labs is a great idea, thanks. Cheers, · rodii · 03:19, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
MathCounts
thanks for the comment on my change. I responded to your post on the talk board for MathCounts. I also checked with my dad, who has attended the last three NH Mathcount State Competitions. I know there are trophies for the Countdown, but it doesnt affect the individual score. Do you mean that the Champion at the Nationals is the Countdown Round winner? I wouldn't have expected that, but maybe it's true. Lioness713 00:51, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Fun with Images
First, cheers for the support. I kept being told to 'be bold', nice to know it was serious. Though i do need to get in the habit of using the edit summaries.... I've all but re-written the Bottom Bracket article, and so i went on the hunt for pictures and, as you said, found some on the de wikipedia. How do i get these into the article? Do i need to re-upload them to en wikipedia, or is there some syntax i can't find to call de from en? Cheers! Lordandmaker 00:33, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome. Thanks for your contributions.
Here's what I got at Wikipedia:Help Desk at the beginning of February:
Obvious way to use an image off of another wikipedia is to download it and re-upload it to either the English Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. There are some images on the German Wikipedia that I would like to use here. They are made by users there, and licenced under GFDL. Example: de:Bild:Nabe 01 KMJ.jpg
Is there a way to get images from there to the commons without discarding original uploader names? Is there a better place to ask this? Thanks. --Christopherlin 06:50, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Simply include the original uploader's name when uploading it elsewhere and mention where it came from (along with a translation of any original information that was there, if you can). There's no technical way to include all the required info. - 131.211.210.10 08:45, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
I did it here: Image:Freehub KMJ.jpg. Basically, I just said who uploaded it where, copied the German description, and wrote a new English description to supplement. Feel free to use that as an example. I should have uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons, in retrospect. Whichever is fine.
Don't forget Wikipedia:Naming conventions with regard to preferring lowercase names for articles that aren't proper names. It takes getting used to, but it is house style. Let me know if you have any other questions. --Christopherlin 02:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Frisbee category
Yeah, I'd like to suggest a rename. I was just at work and fooling around, not really intending to do a complete job. I'll work on the Ultimate category when I have time, and find something to put it under. --Liface 00:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Quizbowl
- "Are you the same cdbarker of NAQT?" Yes I am. --cdbarker 15:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Talk:College Bowl
Here was my rationale for removing the implication, per Wikipedia:No personal attacks#Examples:
"Specific examples of personal attacks include but are not limited to: ... Using someone's affiliations as a means of dismissing or discrediting their views — regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream or extreme."
Let me know what you think. --Christopherlin 23:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- I hadn't recently read that section of WP:NPA. I would say that stating the fact that User:Moberemb appears to be an employee of College Bowl, Inc. is not a personal attack. However, I would say that under this standard, more of the offending post could be considered a personal attack. I would say that all of the following constitutes use of Moberemb's affiliations to dismiss her edits: "...and I suspect her agenda in removing this information ties directly to her having an interest in covering up any bad press about CBI. In other words, her editing is a rather poor attempt to hide relevant information to avoid anything that makes her employer look bad." NatusRoma | Talk 05:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- Basically, I was doing RPA to the full name, even though the rest was an ad hom. at bias (which I agree with). Admittedly, I greatly prefer the other available formats. --Christopherlin 06:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Double push
I substantially rewrote the Double push page that you inserted a cleanup tag for. Do you want to have a look at it now? It's my first substantial wikipedia edit, so all feedback appreciated. Daniel Barlow 18:34, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Image deletion
WHAT?!! Why is the image being deleted? I got permission directly from the author...? JamieJones talk 11:38, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
I assume you are talking about the Catherina Asaro photo? Basically, "Permission obtained from author Catherine Asaro to post on Wikipedia only." means that per http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-May/023760.html , it's not okay. It's not a problem of permission from the author (Asaro herself?). This is great that you did get permission, Wikipedia just likes free licenses, not "Wikipedia only", not "non-commercial use only". I think it might qualify as fair use for a promotional photo. Let me know if you have any further questions. --Christopherlin 15:07, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I actually had to look up your edit log to see all of this, as you didn't keep a list of what you do on your userpage??
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your tireless, and continually revolving efforts in creating cycling content and also creating the Portal:Cycling, I award you this barnstar.ßlηguγΣη |
- Why, thank you! --Christopherlin 04:06, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Removed cats
Sorry about that: wasn't looking carefully enough.--Keycard (talk) 07:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)