User talk:DragonflySixtyseven

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Previous discussions:

• Archive 1 (April 22 2004 to September 28 2005):
• Archive 2 (September 28 2005 to February 4 2006

Anti-Knowledge

I'd like for you to reconsider deletion of the entry "Anti-Knowledge." The reason you gave was that it was spam. The anti-knowledge site referenced http://www.anti-knowledge.com is not a commercial site. The concept is relatively new knowledge, but has taken hold in knowledge management and futuring circles. It is represents a merger of the concepts behind many different terms like questions, creativity, innovation, genius, and knowledge creation.

I think the central issue here is probably more about being "too new" vs. the validity of the concept. If the concept does not seem valid, I'd be happy to explain it from the perspective of any discipline.

I want to also submit that the value of wikipedia is in it's breadth beyond the narrow editing of the traditional paper encyclopedia and that if you wait for terms to make it to the encyclopedia before they are published the value of this media is dimished. This particular term/definition is well over 10 years old. --Knowledgemachine 17:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

The Pixel Pound

You deleted the entry for the Pixel Pound on the grounds that it was a non-notable website, an opinion I dispute. The Pixel Pound, NewsAskew and the Official View Askew Productions website are centers of activity for thousands of fans of Kevin Smith and View Askew productions. How may I prove this to you, and can the page be reinstated in full? Thank you. Donnacha13

In Reponse

"Hey. I concede that my previous message on your userpage is somewhat harsh; however, given how - to put it bluntly - stupid and garbagey the Thomas Burns article was, I think I can be excused for assuming that your every contribution to Wikipedia would be useless crap that needed to be promptly deleted.

The article on Adams and the Federalists, however... well, okay. That's a legitimate article. It's been deleted also, because you guys just aren't notable yet. Do you have any idea how many experimental music collectives there are? Including all the ones that fall apart and never get anywhere? How do you know you're going to succeed?

Answer - you don't. You should never, ever write an article about yourself or your pet project, because you just can't be objective.

And you should NEVER write articles that are worthless pieces of shit; they only annoy the administrators.

That said, you're welcome to stick around and participate in the project productively. DS 15:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)"

First off, I do want to say my apologies about the personal article, I wasn't meaning for it to be a nuisance, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it. As you said, no one would have seen it, other than those who I directed to it.

About the Adams and the Federalists article, I can understand your point in deleting that, I guess. Despite how unnoteable (is that a word?) we are, this is the internet, there is a lot of room. I don't see it as being a huge deal for us to have a page here, especially if I am going to take the time to write it (not to sound like I'm more important than I am, but time is a valueable thing).

Now, aside from that, I had no problem with your point. However, you're an admin on this site and I am a new user, I don't appreciate being told that it's safe to assume Italic textanythingItalic text about me, especially that all I will ever contribute is useless crap. Yes, I should "NEVER write articles that are worthless pieces of shit; they only annoy the administrators", but then again, I would think that it is also common courtesy not to send nasty messages to the users either. I took the Adams and the Federalists page quite seriously, and yes, it was objective. Understandable if it was something that had to do with oppinion to begin with, but it didn't. In no way was there an oppinion expressed from the article for me or Retrobane to Italic textbeItalic text subjective. Thank you for sending the second message, I'm not sure if you had expected me to do anything after the first message. Had I gotten it before I had to go to school today, maybe I could have. Maybe you were annoyed, and sorry for annoying you. But being a first timer on Wikipedia, I was pissed that the first thing that I see from the site is someone telling me how shitty my articles are. I am not really as mad anymore, but I was just not expecting that sort of message, expecially from an admin. Not only that, but if you conceded that your original message was harsh for the situation, why was the second one worse? If you would like to respond, my email is homsar1928@yahoo.com And also note, I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but I am cannot deny that I am sort of upset about the way this was handled.Homsar1928 23:52, 20 March 2006 (UTC)Homsar1928 (Edit, sorry, here's my signature. Again, I'm new and not afraid to admit it)

Translation

Hallo there! I'm cleaning up the Wikipedia:Translation into English/French page (removing completed translations and the like), and I was wondering if you'd finished the Michel Moine article. Just go to the Talk page to tell me about your progress! Thanks a lot! Tamarkot 22:39, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Dongbone

What do you mean test?? I think a valid definition of this word has a rightful place in any good encyclopedia. (unsigned - message left by User:Jimmeny on 8 March 2006)

I dont take kindly to threats. I am not being disingenuous, but thanks for the definition, I'm sure I will find it useful. I know the dongbone article was a peice of crap, but my posting on here was in response to your arogant, unhelpful and pointless message that you sent me. And to top it off, I find another one from you today. I have a message for you: "take a joke". I won't spend time defining the word joke, you could probably look it up on wikipedia.

(unsigned - message left by User:Jimmeny on 9 March 2006)

whoops I think i posted in the wrong place

ok sry dragonfly i posted on ur user page oh well im new to wiki p.s. as a side note, I got an "E" on the paper for too few parenthetical citiations- the grade reflected nothing about the content. Mountnbiker310

Brood

Thanks for answering my question about brood birds. I often ask questions on discussions pages but I rarely get an answer as complete as yours. And (I've read your user page) congratulations on your engagement. Eje211 17:00, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Decision to lead

18:36, 4 February 2006 (UTC)Much simpler is to name a country where the Roma are required by law to live nomadic lives. This was the reason for a previous revert and no such country has been suggested. Understand?

Ive decided to take the high ground

While I am still upset about abuse of power by blocking for a month in blatant disregard to wikipedias guidlines, I have decided to be the bigger man, and accept the appology that you said you were going to give, and move on. I noticed that you had a facination of sorts with ebaums world, so I helped clean up the article for you. You dont have to thank me, it just part of what being a responsible administrator in training is all about. I was once quick to accuse an editor myself, when I was worried about a possle pedophile, and I relize even the best of us can make mistakes. I will try to help fix some of the other articles you have been working on as well, but I still have lots to do as I am quite behindpickelbarrel 21:27, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Reply to "Boner!" deletion

Hi DS, as one of the other game players has stated as a comment to another user/administrator Dimes: "This is a real game. and whilst the rules written in a slightly tongue-in-cheek manner (i.e very verbose language was used) it was the best way to describe a relatively complex game.

I agree it is unreferenced, because we invented the game! How else will it get referenced without a start point at which to document it?"

I don't agree at all that this is a vandalous act, just an attempt to get more people interested in a game that many people around the world already play with some variations to the rules, these are simply our versions of the rules of "the advert game" as some call it an in true wikipedia style other users are free to edit and add to our page as they see fit Adamwjeffers 15:18 8/2/2005

Boner!

Just wanted to continue the "debate" which was not ever really had on the actual page...

If we were to create a website, saying pretty much the exact same thing as the wiki page we tried to create, and then reference that... would we be able to keep the wiki page?

or would there be another rule we would be breaking?

That's fair (re:Boner!)

Ok I agree the articles about myself and dave were just idiotic fun on my part and you were right to delete them. But we are serious (although still with a fun frame of mind) about getting the rules of "Boner!" published on this site. And plans are being drawn up for a website as my friend mentioned. However this may take a while and we would really appreciate it if you would allow the rules of "Boner!" to stay to use as a reference to anyone who asks about the game (sport) or anyone who simply stumbles accross it on this site. ps should I continue to discuss this with you through you discussion page or mine, as you have clearly realised already I am a newbie --Adamwjeffers 15:38, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

The Better Mod

I am concerned about your deletion of this article. I don't really see how it meets any of the CSD, and it looks like it was worked on by a variety of editors over a fairly long period of time. I think you should consider restoring the article and using the AFD process, but I would like to hear your thoughts about it. -SCEhardT 02:24, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

OK; Here's my thought: I don't know anything about the subject of the article, but I don't feel that is necessarily relevant. My problem with the speedy deletion is that the article clearly means something to several established editors, who have put a substantial amount of time into it. I don't think it is civil to speedy delete such an article, even if you are sure it would not survive a AFD debate. -SCEhardT 03:36, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

The Better Mod

Persuant to Wikipedia:Undeletion_policy an article must be undeleted by request of 3 voters and furthermore must be undeleted if deleted out of process as was the case with this entry.

I agree with SCEhardt. This is an excellent mod for Blockland that has been repeatedly attacked, berated, defamed, persecuted, and wrongfully accused for almost a year. Due to the jealous actions of avid Blockland users that hail from competing modifications, this Wikpedia entry has greatly suffered. Yet none of these other modifications have received the same punishment. As an avid believer in the mission of Wikipedia, I have stood behind decisions made by a fair and unbiased group of volunteer admins. I have also donated much to Wikipedia as the smallest pentence for the incredible service they provide. I am not telling, begging, commanding, or otherwise demanding that you restore the entry you have deleted. Rather, I am asking that you reconsider your actions, and if you stand by your decision, the decision to delete all entries discussing modifications for Blockland should be made. This only to further enforce the idea that Wikipedia and its admins stand for a fair and unbiased Wikipedia. MCP 03:12, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Furthermore, TBM is one of the most noteworthy mods in Blockland history. If you had ever used it, you would know that. The claims made by Badspot and others are completely unfounded, and the edit wars that ensued were made by malicious persons. If you had bothered to check the logs of other mods, you would find the same type of edit wars, as well as many times when TBM users would remove malicious vandalism from other entries. Just because we believe in being fair and balanced does not mean we should be punished for it.MCP 03:18, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

The Better Mod

I, as MCP has also stated, am concerned with how the situation with The Better Mod's wiki was dealt with. I do not agree with the way you deleted it, as you had not held a vote on whether or not it should be kept. I have worked very long and for many hours on this project, and to see it's wiki get deleted is not a very acceptable thing for me to see. In the past, innumerable people had continuously edited, deleted, warped, twisted, slandered, and completely ruined our hard efforts at maintaining a good page for The Better Mod. MCP and others have had to continuously fix The Better Mod's wiki because of these people, and it has been no easy chore i'm sure. So please, restore The Better Mod's page. Hopefully -and i do hope- you will take to our words and replace them with actions. Gobbles 10:39, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

The Better Mod

I am also concerned with the sudden deletion of the TBM Wiki. It has endured flame wars and malicious attacks for near a years time, and has constantly had to be fixed and redone. They have upheld all of the Wikipedia rules of conduct, and their excellent Wiki entry shouldn't have been deleted so hastily. I request the re-establishment of The Better Mod's Wiki entry, and I hope that you will agree. User:Dustin_Evans 11:41, 8 February 2006

Thanks!

Thanks for welcoming me! Mainly I joined to keep an eye on Elftown, but Wikipedia's innerworkings is very intruiging! I should stay away though, before I get addicted to it ;-)

Love, Sunrose 15:36, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Legs

Will do. And I'm sorry for posting this message on the wrong page originally. Squamate 19:39, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Bull[badword]?

Get out man, don't partronise me. Been sensible in the past? Well thank goodness my record of being a good little boy so far had endeered me to you. Maybe now my punishment won't be too severe. A smacked arse maybe, or make me stand in the corner. You know what? It was a joke. A practical joke on a friend of mine that, for the record, we all found pretty funny. You should thank yer lucky stars we did something imaginative instead of just going on the George Bush page and changing every other word to poo like some dozy bastards do. Anyway, cheers for the concern, yer a credit to the 'pedia. I'll now return to editing pages sensibly until I fancy messing about again. BTW, let you in on a little secret, coz you genuinely seem quite nice: doing something you find funny every now and again, without caring if anyone else does - that's the secret to eternal youth. --Crestville 15:24, 11 February 2006 (UTC) (p.s: don't worry, I'm not a frustrated 12 yr old.)

I noticed that you didnt even bother to cast a vote on the Panty Waste

Which seems a bit hypocritical since you blocked me for a fucking month for writing it in the first place. To block somebody for creating a garbage article and Then not even bothering to vote as to weather it needed to be deleted gives you the appearance of being A bit of a dillweed Im not saying you are, just that I would have thought you would have at least chimed in in some manner, if for no other reason than to just say you were completely wrong for not assuming good faith to begin with. Perhaps there are some guidlines against an administrator maiing arguments on a page he had previously unfairly deleted in which case I do understand, but you still have not bothered to appologize to me, which you said you were going to do, and which I think would be appropriate. Anyway I have already acceptted your appology, and I hope that you will try not to be so quick to criticize in the future. Best of luck to you pickelbarrel 20:14, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

well that makes sense...

That seems like a good reason not to vote, although I should point out that you DID NOT seem to worry about said bias when blocking me. Still I respect your decision, and, of coarse, I accept your appology...pickelbarrel 23:25, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you Hello DragonflySixtyseven, and thank you for your support in my request for adminship and your compliments on my talk page! My RfA passed with a final count of 63/4/3. I am honoured by the community support and pledge to serve the project as best as I can. CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 16:43, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Recycling AfD

You previously voted keep on an AfD for LJ Drama. It was re-nominated to AfD out of spite here, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LJ Drama, and I thought you might like to consider voting again. SchmuckyTheCat 02:09, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Block Request: User:64.39.129.50

You blocked this user about a week ago for 48 hrs. He/she has returned with more vandalism. If you notice, the (lengthy) contribs list is almost entirely vandalism, so I don't think you should have any qualms about a longer block period. --DLand 15:23, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for putting the name of my article right and welcoming me to Wikipedia. J Gez M 19th February 2006.

Frivolous deletions

• Care to explain? --Ghirla | talk 09:47, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Having trouble with speedy deletion request

Hello. I have posted a few articles for speedy deletion for a little while now, but there seems to be a backlog. The articles are Ciaran Paul Donnelly, Jessica Beaumont and Tomasz Winnicki. These articles seem to be nothing more than a form of attack on private individuals with no notability. Please read the information in the Talk pages to see the reason for requesting speedy deletion.

Thank you. Imstillhere 16:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Your reqests are without merit. For one, Winnicki's been featured on CBC Radio's As It Happens. Homey 20:35, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

All your base are belong to us

As an occasional editor of the All your base are belong to us article, I wanted you to know that someone has suggested that the transcript of the opening and closing dialog be deleted. Personally, I think this is ludicrous, but your support is needed to keep the information on Wikipedia. If you are in favor of keeping the text, as it is clearly used under fair use guidelines, please enter a KEEP vote on its AFD page. Thanks! --BRossow 05:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Squidoo

Hello. Please see Talk:Squidoo. I would prefer it be listed on AfD instead of speedied if you still think it needs deleting. Angela. 23:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaazzup

Yo DS, wazzup man. How do you become an admin? I think you made a mistake by warning me. Crowbaaa 14:15, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Crap Man

I want a few links to what I did wrong, please, for the good of justice. And is there a page where you vote for admin? Crowbaaa 14:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

?

Why did you swear on my talkpage man? Anyway what was wrong with that U.S. thing. Other people were fine with it, and are there any set of rules I am breaking? Plus anymore links? If so I wouldn't mind seeing them. Lucky I'm not a jerk I have made new articles that make sense. Crowbaaa 14:27, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Toko MZEGE

I mean no offense by this but it evens says you should be expecting it to be editted mercillesly, I do not want it to be viewed publibly, isn't that my problem. It is MY talk page. I'm really sorry if I appear rude. I accept your appology and wish to say that I apologize too.

mail

OK, you should be able to e-mail me now. dcandeto 17:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Crowbaaa

Hi I am a little concerned with your warnings towards this user, they are very vague and don't even state what your warning him for. If you made your warnings a bit more descriptive it would help keep them from getting frustrated. Mike _{(T C)} 18:58, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

march is the beginiing of popples history month where all popples from aroung the world celebrate their ancestors achevements and struggles through time especally with popple-americans. E-Series 20:03, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

re. Your Message

Thanks for your message on my page. However, your thanks is a little misplaced--I didn't actually write the article; I just put on the {{context}} tag (I know now that I don't need to sign these tags!). The author of the article was User:Startreker. Hynca-Hooley 19:41, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you! Hi DragonflySixtyseven, thank you for your support in my Rfa! It passed with a final tally of 86/0/0. If you need help or just want to talk let me know! Again, thank you! – Dakota ~ ° 20:49, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Question on neutrality in new articles (from a newbie!)

Question

Dear DragonflySixtySeven,

Congrats on the adminship. You'll be great, especially given the sweet comment you left on my page. Could I ask a follow up question?

It regards the article on SWIM. I am certainly aware of the principle of neutrality on Wikipedia and appreciate your concerns about "fluff." My concern is that this retreat, SWIM, is based in rational humanism, i.e. it is all about its "Mission and Values." I am not certain it is fair to divorce this element from the article as it helps to 'explain what SWIM is.' What do you think?

Please advise.

Thanks, smac02155

Heh, heh. I'm glad you approve. I'll try to keep my folks from going all catalog-y on the site. No extensive workshop descriptions. Much appreciated.

Cheers, SMAC02155

User:Emir Arven

Just to inform you - he has sent emails to other administrators complaining about his block. Since you're the one who blocked him; I think that you should know that.

Regards. --HolyRomanEmperor 21:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Holy, you didnt have to snich on me. Noone likes people who do that. I didnt hide anything. I send an email, and I said it. On the other hand you should be blocked because of your propagandistic activites.--Emir Arven 13:08, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Emir - you said that on your talk page; you should've told this administrator directly. I am merely officially informing him/her, because the administrator quitte possibly didn't chekc your talk page for your posts.

Excuse me, administrator, for using your talk page for the discussion. --HolyRomanEmperor 15:06, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Eh, that's okay. Besides, I'd already been informed. Emir, I genuinely want you to stay on Wikipedia, because you are intelligent and erudite. However, you cannot let your anger get the better of you. Do you understand? If there is some dispute as to whether a given historic person was of Serb or Croat (or whatever) ethnicity, then state that there is dispute. Give the reasons for each side. Okay? DS 18:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Blocked!

Hello! I feel that I have been blocked by your recent actions. The reason is: Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing You were blocked by DragonflySixtyseven Reason given: Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "David al". The reason given for David al's block is: "vandal-only account".

My IP address is:165.21.154.14. My second IP address is:165.21.154.9.

I hope that you will solve this problem soon as I have not vandalized any pages. Moreover, the block you gave to this user lasts infinitely! I believe I am suffering from an autoblock. Thank You! --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 15:53, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank You for your help! If this problem comes up again, I hope you do not mind me asking for your assistance again. --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 16:00, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Dispute

Hello! I've asked several admins, but they're to busy. Could you orchestrate a compromise between me and User:Emir_Arven at Talk:Mehmed-paša_Sokolović? Thanks in advance! --HolyRomanEmperor 21:33, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

honeyguides

Hi. I'm hoping to work on honeyguide sometime soon, but I've found some discrepancies between some sources, so I'd appreciate if you could let me know your source(s) or add them to the article so I can include their positions on the discrepancies. In particular, I'm unclear on whether any species beside Indicator indicator (and maybe I. variegatus) have the guiding behavior, and whether it's documented or just assumed that they also guide ratels and baboons. I'd also be interested in your source for the phrase "honeyguide bird" (71 Google hits for "honeyguide birds" compared to 20,400 for "honeyguides")—and, in fact, for almost everything you added, which differs slightly from [1], the most up-to-date source I'm using.

Incidentally, since it seems that only one of the species guides (plus maybe another that we don't have an article on), I'm planning to move most of the information on guiding to the species article, with a reference in the family article so people can find it. Normally I'd just be bold and do it, but since I'm leaving you this message anyway, I thought I'd mention it in case you object. Thanks in advance. —JerryFriedman 20:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the sources, especially the one from montereybay.com. Since then I've found Toucans, Barbets, and Honeyguides by Short and Horne and the family account from HBW also by Short and Horne, so we're in good shape on sources, especially if I can find something by some other ornithologist.

My disagreements with your additions:

"dull-colored": some species have yellow on the plumage, especially the Yellow-rumped (or Orange-rumped) Honeyguide, I. xanthonotus, which also has whatever-color-it-is on the head.

"feeds exclusively on the contents of hives": they also flycatch and eat occasional fruit, and some species get their wax from scale insects rather than beehives (HBW).

"unable to open beehives by itself": they can get into abandoned hives, or hives where the bees or torpid in the morning, through the opening if it's big enough.

"typically the ratel (or African honey badger), the baboon, or the human": As I mentioned, there's a lot of doubt about this, and since I wrote that I've seen that HBW, your Monterey Bay reference, and Short and Horne (quoted by the Monterey Bay guy) say there's no convincing documentation.

"the follower is expected to open the hive, incapacitate the adult bees, and feed on the contents" If this has to be written with the bird's mental state, I'd say it hopes rather than expects. Also I don't think ratels and baboons would incapacitate the bees (if they're involved at all).

I take half of that sentence back. David Attenborough's Life of Birds (the book) says ratels drive off bees with a foul smell like a skunk's. By the way, Attenborough also says honeyguides do guide ratels, and what he says about honeyguides in general is very much like what's in the article now. I don't trust him on this point, though. Here's another reference saying there's no documentation that honeyguides guide ratels: [2].

Also, the bird doesn't care whether the follower feeds on the contents.

"Bushmen tradition says that the honey guide must be thanked": I don't disagree, but the article I mentioned above (two of whose authors are Short and Horne) has an addition. Most tribes that follow honeyguides have that tradition, but some believe that deliberately leaving comb for the bird "spoils" it.

"symbiotic stomach bacteria": seems reasonable, but HBW has grave doubts.

Anyway, looks like we're on our way to a better article. —JerryFriedman 19:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Since there didn't seem to be any reason to think that all the African species guide, I went ahead and moved your material about guiding to Greater Honeyguide, with only slight changes. I'll work on it there at some point. —JerryFriedman 20:01, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Your message

You are most welcome - we should be transparent. I am unable to recollect. Please give me the link. --Bhadani 13:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

And, my wife conveys you her thanks! Me too. --Bhadani 13:52, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I got it and now I recollect - I did it during the cource of RC patrol. by the way, please give me your opinion:

greetings from an Indian wikipedian. I have been around here for about a year, including being an administrator from 18th September 2005. I request you to kindly do me the favor of providing me your valuable comments and suggestions on my contributions, activities and behavior pattern. I shall be awaiting your free and frank opinion, which you are most welcome to give here. Thanks. --Bhadani 14:11, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Complaint

You cancelled a bonafide page defining the legal work VEQTOR. This is a registered word and has a specific use and definition in the English language. The purpose of Wikipedia is to accurately delivery truthful accurate information to its readers. By deleting this page you have over stepped your authority. (unsigned message from User: VEQTOR web, March 11 2006)

The MacNamara Brothers

The page known as The MacNamara Brothers is misspelled -- can you fix it -- it should be The McNamara Brothers. Thanks!! Sieger 08:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Uhm, listen, I don't want to seem like I'm boring you, but...

Please look [3]. Now User:Emir_Arven has used the word stupid and is making again aggressive Edit Summaries: (Nemanjići are Bosnian Serbs, nonsense?! this is really more than anachronism, this is not serious. What about Radovan Karadzic, Ratko Mladic? Who are they?). This, although, makes no sence in the first place. No one wrote about the Nemanjics in the article... --HolyRomanEmperor 13:46, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ixfd64

I have filed an RFC concerning an administrator's reversal of several blocks without discussion. This may be of particular interest to you as some of the blocks were ones set by you. Regards. — Mar. 12, '06 [15:10] <freakofnur_xture|talk>

Contacting

No offense meant, but I didn't know if your "E-mail this user" link works, or if it's an account that you don't check regularly - I have a couple accounts like that myself, such as one I only use for a couple of college classes I'm taking at the moment. I just wanted to let you know that I DID leave an e-mail message for you, and hope you had the time to review it. --JohnDBuell 16:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

prank flash

hi, regarding the deleted list, i didnt create it or spend any effort on it - it was just junk cluttering jup the "real" prank flash page, so i just moved it to its own aricle, as a way to divert all the cruft-lovers over to that page instead, leaving the real page clean & tidy and junk-free. the problem is, the cruft-lovers will now revert the prank flash page back to the state with all those millions of useless links again, so they can carry on playing, and we will be back to square one. do you have a suggestion on how to address this issue? Zzzzz 18:03, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

hi ds, as you started this, you have to resolve it with admin powers now. as i predicted, User:Tenka Muteki is ignoring 3RR policy and consensus that list of non-notable screamers in prank flash article should not exist. would you kindly block him? he's already listed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR. cheers. Zzzzz 19:49, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Try getting the List of shock sites deleted. And stop it with the personall attacks.--Tenka Muteki 19:23, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I noticed you've blocked TM for 24h. Since Zzzzz has broken 3RR on the same page, I feel obliged to block for as long. However, I would have been somewhat more lenient for a first offence (on both sides). William M. Connolley 20:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

The McNamara Brothers

The page known as The MacNamara Brothers is misspelled -- can you fix it -- it should be The McNamara Brothers. Thanks!!

216.194.0.105 08:41, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Hemobag AfD

Hello,

You closed an AfD as a speedy keep after rewrite that had two opinions for delete outstanding. This is inappropriate. Even if the new article addresses the concerns of the nominator, AfDs should not be speedy closed when they are not unanimous. I realize that the likely outcome will be closure in 5 days; I also think that casual violation of a process that has received wide consensus is an idea whose merits and drawbacks deserve close consideration. I have reopened the AfD. -ikkyu2 (talk) 22:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Bold textHI

Thanks for your note on my talk page.I really appreciate your help.I was not aware that another article existed under different spelling when I created the stub.I certainly have no grounds to feel slighted.I hope you shall continue to guide me.Thanks once agian.(Vr 07:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC))

Waldo Loves You Anyway

Sorry man. I'll learn from my mistakes.

Greetings

Holi greetings. --Bhadani 15:26, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi

I just placed an article on International who's who to add another source of verifiability of notability of living subjects.No sooner had I placed it,it was placed for deletion for advertising which was furthest from mmy mind.I should appreciate your advice;have I committed another blunder?(Vr 06:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC))

Thanks

Thanks, DS, for pointing some things out. I'll make sure to remember them. Is there any way for you to send me the text that was on the particular page so I can at least re-use it on my website?

IntGod 12:04, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Eberron

Hi, I've edited your reworded leads to fix a typo (the name should be rendered with an "&"), but I've retained your wording because you raise a legitimate concern about context and notability. I've invited discussion about your edits on the WP:RPG talk page; note that there's already been some discussion on how to word leads of rpg articles here. Regards, --Muchness 16:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

I wish to thank you for your most recent efforts. They have indeed helped in these crucial disputes - but I have to be honest with you - the disputes will continue. But, thanks to your immediate actions, no cans of worms have been opened, and I think that it would be best if we don't mention Bosniak or Serbian on Mehmed's article at all.

Thanks again and keep up the good work. --HolyRomanEmperor 18:39, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Pawnofwhite/The Filmaker on WP:RFI

I've moved that entry to 'Under investigation' as you said that you have taken on the request. Please could you archive the report when you have finished dealing with the situation (trying to keep that page nice and clean to prevent the backlog building back up). Thanks, Petros471 18:17, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

e-mail verified

Hey Dragonfly,

I activated my mail account. Thanks for all the help getting started.

best regards,

intGod 20:48, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Kenny Brown

Sorry about that, I don't know why I forgot to check back and see if it was an overwritten article. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:02, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Honeyguides again

"Leaving the honeyguide some comb 'spoils' it". I assumed this meant that it wouldn't guide unless you kept it hungry, but now that you mention it, I can see that it might mean the bird will demand more. If I put that in, I'll make it a direct quote and let the reader puzzle over it.

As for the baboon incapacitating the bees by drawing their fire (fatally), that hadn't occurred to me either, but I'm not planning to put it in unless I see a source for it. If I were a baboon (a possibility that some people have entertained), I wouldn't break into a beehive unless the bees were torpid or had left it.

And now to see how much I can get done, if anything, before I go to sleep. —JerryFriedman 03:43, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

____________________________________________________________________________________ hi for Turos see at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me%C4%91imurje

hi!

its my birthday!Gimmiet 20:24, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Sig

Are you a Sigma Chi?Gorkhali 06:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply.Gorkhali 15:21, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

e-mail fixed

It's fixed now, DS. You can send me e-mail. Sorry for the mistake.

intGod 10:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, is this template normal?

Seen on User:Croatian_historian; the one below the EU support template? --HolyRomanEmperor 13:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Different template, but I'm not sure how to start a new section. Anyway would you check that The Preacher and the Slave is all proper and what not since clearly I'm still a bit lost. Oh and which story? "I'd heard of that song - H. Beam Piper references it in one of his short stories." On to the Little Red Songbook next.Mujeresliebres 17:57, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

User:RelianKru

Hah, yeah, I *was* wondering about that. Decided not to say anything; figured there must be a reference I didn't get, tho I figured it was in the Legend of Mir or whatever the game was that that site was for. Mangojuice 20:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Mirzone

Nice to see another one who is familiar with the Relian Kru novel. ;)

I edited the entry of Mirzone. Please tell me if this match the Wikipedia rules. Thank you

--RelianKru 08:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Astronaut

re the Fallen Astronaut article (which I substantially rewrote today), I was wondering - why did you put it in the category of "Outdoor sculpture in the United States" ? The Moon isn't in the United States. DS 04:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I did not read the article carefully enough. Thanks for catching that. -->>sparkit|TALK<< 04:49, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Ohhh, dear

Your warning only made it worse. It's much worse now: User:Croatian_historian --HolyRomanEmperor 11:10, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

question

embarrasing question. i realized that i constructed a silly page. how would I go about deleting? Anne Hutchison not Anne Hutchinson Oh, the shame. Smac02155 10:46, 28 March 2006 (UTC)smac02155

I did as you recommended, I think. Did it work? When will it delete? I have save a copy on my harddrive and will add as necessary' the AH page is somewhat...what's the word...contentious. I'd like to proceed with caution.

Thanks! Smac02155 18:14, 28 March 2006 (UTC)smac02155

WP:NPA & WP:AGF

Consider yourself warned! IP Address 17:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Regardless of whether you think you have good intentions, they are misguided and unwelcome. Do not make them again. I severely protest your advances as violations of my personal space! You will drop this matter at once! IP Address 17:08, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Henry_VIII_of_England#Naming_monarchs I already have an admirer insofar as my name is concerned. Leave it be. IP Address 17:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank You!

Thank you for your welcome to Wikipedia, although I have been here for a little while already. It's a shame that all the Mods aren't as nice as you! Cheers!

(Noeth 21:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC))

Hi

Yeah, sure. I overreacted and shouldn't have. Will keep trying to do better, SqueakBox 17:53, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Kinetics, subsidiary of NCR - Deletion

I don't understand your reasoning for the deletion of this page... and should I say summary deletion without any notice. Someone already said it was advertising and I didn't realize the policies of Wikipedia and I modified the page to be historical factual profile of the company and they said it was ok. If this is considered advertisement then any company website is then so you should remove them as well. Please explain your reason for deleting the entry and why I was not given any notice to modify the entry.

The facts within the entry

• company history
• the recent purchase of the company
• factual numbers

As far as I am concerned there was no marketing copy in these entries so how you call it an advertisement is beyond me. I also am bothered with the fact you did not put the entry in the deletion log. When it was put in that status last time it said I had 5 days to make changes so it wouldn't be removed. Again, I am new to Wikipedia so I am not up on all the inner workings, but I don't see justification for your actions.

Addition

• please tell me how this page fell under the CSD rule —This unsigned comment was added by Jcroasdaile (talk • contribs) .

Wikipedia survey

Hi. I'm doing a survey of Wikipedia editors as part of a class research project. It's quick, anonymous, and the data will be made available to the Wikipedia community later this month. Would you like to take part? More info here. Thanks! Nonplus 00:17, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the kind words! I've been impressed with your edits as well. The positive feedback is a great encouragement to keep up the work. 172 | Talk 05:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Elm

Dear Dragonfly Thank you for your comment. I just got annoyed / embarrassed to find my "private" conversations coming up during searches, often ahead of the article I'd help write. You had earlier corrected me on the use of parentheses in the titles of redirect articles. The parentheses were there because the hybrids featured in the main article had them, and if I delete them, I arrive at a page featuring the origin of the name adopted for the hybrid, eg Columella, the Roman agronomist who introduced various elms to Spain. Advice welcome.

Hello, dear friend

This user: User:Ilir_pz has been constantly removing warnings from his User Talk page.

You see, this is percisely why I needed that. So that I can react at once and not bore admins. --HolyRomanEmperor 23:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Mazher Mahmood

Thank you for protecting this page to stop an edit war. Can I get you to add the {{protected}} template at the top of it too? Thanks. Squashy 18:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Wavenumbers

Hi Dragonfly- thanks for letting me know- I could've saved myself a bit of time! Well I don't think there's anything on the article I did that needs to be added to yours, so now that you've done the re-direct, I think we can safely leave it at that. Thanks for letting me know,

dave

ProhibitOnions's RfA

Thank you, DragonflySixtyseven!
	...for voting in my RFA. It passed with a result of 58/2/0. If you have any comments, or for some reason need any new-admin help, please let me know here. Regards, ProhibitOnions 22:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Could I please enlist your help again.I looked up Mani Shankar Aiyar a few days ago.It was clearly written by one of his followers as he had carefully omitted relevant less than complimentary facts which are all over the media.I then added a pa ragraph which was referenced.I find it deleted by an anonymous user who calls it prejudicial although it was referenced.I should like to revert it back and should value your guidance.I believe all relevant facts about individuals should find a place,complimentary or uncomplimentary.thanks(Vr 06:38, 14 April 2006 (UTC))

Mani Shankar Aiyar

Thanks for your note.I feel suitably chided by your remarks.Suffice it to say,none of it was a matter of personal opinion nor a result of prejudice-you do not need to be prejudiced about Indian politicians,at leat 90% of them!The material came mostly from the respected periodical SUNDAY which I had cited and varoius editorials in the Statesman one of the most respected Indian papers.

Aiyar had in an article in the SUNDAY magazine called Sheela Dixit,a fellow Congress member,a respected widow and the present Chief Minister of Delhi a "ganster's moll" which upset quite a few people.Press Council of India censured him with a strong warning.Later on he attended panter Satish Gujral's party where because of using foul and abusive language,he was beaten up by Amar Singh in full public view.He has repeatedly described himself as "Rajiv Gandhi's willing slave" most recently in Rajat Sharma's popular TV programme.He was extremely vituperative towrads Jayalalithaa but became her acolyte when his parliamentary seat was threatened.

Despit all these indiscretions he enjoyed full support from Sonia Gandhi before her Rajiv Gandhi who needed a speechwriter.

I take your point about comparative intelligence but agab it was not my judgement.Swaminathan Aiyar is the Edior of Economic Times and a jounalist internationally respected for his intelect,integrity and fairplay.He ahd frequently been very critical of his brother.

I would value your opinion on whether these points need to be adumbrated.Right now the article is nothing more than a panegyrating exercise.(Vr 05:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC))

your message on my talk page

Thank you very much for your message, and rest assured that I won't be frightened off or what have you.

There are two important things that I want to say in reply, however.

First, since nominating a page for deletion requires making an account and logging in, I think it is unfair for people to say that my only contributions have been deletions. I have been making minor updates (largely correcting typographical errors) for some time. Since I often use public computers in a computer lab, it is easier to make the change without worrying about logging in. When I registered for an account (primarily to nominate "Anabasii" for deletion since I think it is a dictionary definition with no potential for encyclopedic expansion), I remembered a couple of other articles that I had seen before and thought about nominating. Since I had just set up an account and had the "how to nominate a page for deletion" instructions open, it seemed like a good time to track them down and nominate them. So, I think that wikipedians generally should realize that if an account isn't required for every change someone might make, a user's contribution list may be innaccurate and disproportionately reflect the changes that they had to log in to make.

Secondly, I think I could be a very valuable participant in the wikipedia community even if the only thing I ever did was nominate articles for deletion and argue on VfD. Some people are probably able and interested in participating in literally every aspect of the process, from creating new articles to refining old ones, to standardizing layout and typographical editing. With many articles, I find that my contributions got somewhat hastily reverted by people who were watchdogging the article. Some of those, I'm sure, were good reverts, where I had skewed the NPOV or the like. Others, I think were largely because the person was themselves very opinionated about the nature of the article. There are a lot of other articles where I find that I would like to contribute, but don't know how to do so without it being too original-researchy (particularly articles related to my area of study).

There is more to having a good encyclopedia than just having lots of content, though. It is good that a lot of people are willing to contribute new content and edit existing content, but I think that sometimes pruning away the dead weight might help. If there are less random two line dictionary entries, the odds of someone stumbling across an article that they can do something worthwhile with is increased.

I am not a rampant deletionist, as I said, it took some time before I decided that it was worth making an account so I could nominate something for deletion. But I think that people often villify someone who nominates articles for deletion, as though there is something sacrosanct about generating as much material (of indiscriminate quality or subject matter) as possible, and that trying clip away the dead branches of wikipedia is somehow trying to undermine its goal. Please let me know if the attitude I just expressed (that article deletion is an important part of wikipedia) is inconsistent with some major goal or purpose of the wikipedia. TerrorIsland 00:34, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Article closes

I already fixed this, so don't worry about it...but just a quick friendly reminder to use {{subst:at}} rather than just {{at}} to close an article: this would be what happens if you use the latter. (For what it's worth, I had to look it up, too; I don't close AFDs very often. So it's a mistake I could've made too — but it's kind of amusing anyway :-) Bearcat 06:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

bromelain

What about it? (And wouldn't it make more sense to just ask?) --belg4mit

Thanks

My gratitude for your help.(Vr 05:29, 18 April 2006 (UTC))

A note

You might change the link at your User Page (the Woo Edit count!) to the new version of the User Edit Counter. Just a reminder. All the best! --HolyRomanEmperor 22:14, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Can you please stop deleting Stone Ridge, Virginia

Apologies for the outburst. Just FYI, in some parts of the US, there are "planned communities" which are essentially small towns of their own, with a means to do everything within the neighborhood (gas, restaurants, shopping, groceries, public parks, schools, church, etc). They are laid out in their entirety years in advance and built in phases, rather than the traditional method of various builders simply purchases areas of land to individually develop. (see South Riding, Virginia entry as example).

In the case of the community page I started, it's not an advertisement, I have no affiliation with the community other than being a resident, and half of the community already exists so this is not a case of crystal ball :)

Thanks for leaving it alone. Plenty of content will be added! It has been tagged as a stub so hopefully others will leave it alone as well. Koporto 19:27, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

your FAC

Theres a comment for you about your FAC of Eminem. Vulcanstar6 02:10, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Differences between HBP

Hi Dragonfly, I see that you deleted the page Differences between the book and film version of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. We were having a discussion on the talk page about keeping the page, and in 24 hours since I was last on Wikipedia it was suddenly deleted after not having reached any sort of decision, at least in my opinion. I was, at least, planning on taking the information to a subpage of mine to keep, but didn't have time to do that yesterday evening. Having been away all day, I'm a bit disappointed that there's nothing to copy.

My main point in keeping the page was that the page Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (film) recently underwent some cutting down of character lists to make the page less cluttered. I felt the information should be kept somewhere. Is there any way to "retrieve" the text, either for a return of the page or at least for me to put into a subpage of mine? Thanks. --Fbv65edel ^{(discuss | contribs)} 04:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks a lot. I know about WP:NOT but I figured the page was trying to be informative by giving the information that wasn't fit for "cluttering" the HBP movie page. I didn't see any further posts on the talk page since I was last there, so I don't know what consensus was reached; however, up until when I was there last it looked like it was still being tossed about.

The page address is User:Fbv65edel/HBP Differences. Thanks. --Fbv65edel ^{(discuss | contribs)} 15:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Hehe, not at all. It's something I use for basically everything. About two years ago, I was infatuated with the Sound of Music (still am, but I haven't got time for a lot of stuff anymore). So we got a new email service, and I made Fbv65edel my user name. FBV are my initials, 1965 is the year the Sound of Music came out, and Edel is the beginning of my favorite song, Edelweiss. So there you go! It's also something that doesn't really give away an identity, and is rare so can be used for lots of things. :-) And what is the etymology of your name? --Fbv65edel ^{(discuss | contribs)} 19:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

'Hello again'

Sorry to trouble you again with my silly problems.I had asked Bahani as well but he seems to be on a sabbatical.

I browsed through the page on American Academy of Arts and Sciences.I see that a Fellowship or a Foreign Fellowship of the body is considered one of the most prestigious honours in the world.I was hoping to create a list of the present Fellows but just in time whem I browsed though the history,I noticed that someone recently had created a page containing the list of all the names but was deleted for some obscure reason by an editor called "Cant sleet the clown would eat me."Is there a policy not to create lists?I shall be surprised if there was as you do have a list of Nobel Winners and Pulitzer Winners and this honour is just about as prestigious if not more.Is there a way to bring back the deleted information?Thanks once again and I apologise for troubling you.(Vr 06:20, 22 April 2006 (UTC))

I have dared to create a page CURRENT MEMBERSHIP OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF ARTS AND SCIENCES.Please let me know if this is an inappropriate trnsgression on my part.(Vr 06:39, 22 April 2006 (UTC))

Sodium stibogloconate

Thanks for putting me right! Sadly that error is now liberally peppered across a large number of new entries that I shall now have to correct--Gak 17:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Block message

Just wanted to let you know that this really isn't the most appropriate thing to say to another user, even if you are indef blocking them. You may want to consider simply using one of the available block templates instead. --InShaneee 22:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Bread and circuses

I write to thank you for having found the appropriate episode article to which to link the Star Trek reference; as you likely gathered from my edit summary, I didn't think there to be an article, but, in searching only cursorily, I didn't seem to appreciate that "TOS" was in reference to "The Original Series". I surely wouldn't have reverted you without linking to the ST episode had I thought an article about the episode to exist. And, apropos of InShanee's comment above, even as your "Dont' come back" was probably indecorous, I thought it altogether appropriate.  :) Joe 04:47, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for welcoming me to Wikipedia and for tidying up my first entry on Irene Gut Opdyke. I got inspired to join when I saw her name was the only one not linked under the Memoir article. I felt it fitting that such an important person during The Holocaust should be recognized for her work.

"Pennsylvania Impressionism" Article Request

Also, given that you've described Berninger as a practicioner of "Pennsylvania Impressionism", we could use an article explaining what that is. You up for the job? DS 16:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

>> No problem, I'll get to work on it and get it posted shortly! Alphageekpa 16:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Uh-oh

And I thought I invented this nick. Silly me! ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 22:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Dear DF67, I appreciate your vote and your kind words in my RFA. It has passed with an unexpected 114/2/2 and I feel honored by this show of confidence in me. Cheers! ←Humus sapiens ну? 04:13, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Irene Gut Opdyke

Well, I added the tag to faciliate expansion, so, in effect, yes. :-) Good work. The original was not particularly informative - Skysmith 07:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Accidental delete?

Hi...I doubt you intended this, but you deleted the welcome template I left on a user's talk page when asking her/him to not use Wikipedia for advertising. Kukini 15:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

User:30021190

Please, reconsider deblocking of User:30021190, since User:16836054 is a normal living user. -- Vít Zvánovec 19:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank You

I didn't realize I'd made a typo on the DMSO article until you pointed it out on my talk page. I thought it was suspicious when there was no article on the compound, but since I'd made the same spelling mistake in the search, no article was generated when I checked to see if an article already existed.

Thanks for correcting my wayward efforts, and helping make sure things ended up right in the long run. Consequentially 23:02, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

block for incorrect reason

I'd like to bring to your attention, that you blocked User:Nausate incorrectly for vandalism. WP:VANDAL states, that "Some users cannot come to agreement with others who are willing to talk to them on an article's talk page, and repeatedly make changes opposed by everyone else. This is a matter of regret — you may wish to see our dispute resolution pages to get help. However, it is not vandalism.". A 24 block for a 3RR violation would IMHO be correct. Raphael1 00:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Your block was very correct due to the disruptive nature of the edits by that 'throw away' account. Netscott 08:37, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

article edit

Roger Ambrose article: I agree with your editorial addition. The inverted pryamid is a good structure. I have cleaned up some of the content and added a few minor lines of info. Hopefully these meet with the wiki-editors approval. Also I understand your reasons for the detetions of the other articles yesterday (04-28-06). Still being a newbee here I will take the group edit decision, even though it was disappointing. I appreciate the civil tone in all the comments and explanations, Thank you. rca 70.34.86.240

Tator tot and Paper machete

Hello! I was wondering if these two articles are legitimate, or vandalism. The only contributor is User:PaperMachete. QuakeRanger 14:09, 30 April 2006 (UTC) Talk