Talk:Madonna (album)

Infobox

Before changing the infobox on this (or any other album article), please achieve consenses at WP:ALBUM and Template talk:Album infobox. Thanks. Jkelly 01:09, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Changes to certifications and sales numbers

Please if you are going to change certifications or sales number show where you got this information from. I have gotten all of these numbers from reliable sources and trust them. If you know they are wrong please show where you got your information from. Thanks. Underneath-it-All 03:49, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

Worldwide Sales as of December 2007

Madonna Has sold over 9,500,000 worldwide —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.214.150 (talk) 13:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Worldwide sales are quoted as 8 million as per references. If you know of another "official" verified reference that specifies otherwise, please discuss it here - but please do not edit just because you think so. Same with your constant edits on the Madonna Discography. Otherwise it is just vandalism 60.234.242.196 (talk) 09:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

according to goldmine fifth edition to collectible record albums, AND the lp i have in my hand ,

first press "madonna" has a 4:48 version of burning up. madonna 23867 vinyl. 

later pressings have a remixed 3:41 version of "burning up". easily verified . however if you dont include it such as the band "heart" does about thier pressings . i know the truth so its up to you to be thorough . if no one else knows its still the way it is. first press madonna lp 23867 have a 4:48 version of a different mix , burning up. thanks peace —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.173.32 (talk) 17:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Alternate covers

What are people's opinions on not keeping or keeping the alternate covers and commentaries shown in this revision of the article?--Rockfang (talk) 08:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Inorder for an alternate cover to be kept in the articles they need to be discussed and not just used to for showing purposes. Even if they are present in commentary, having them as unsourced content clearly violates Wikipedia's rule of verifiability, hence such covers fails WP:NFCC#8. This is the case in this article. If source can be provided for the commentary added, it can definitely go back. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:41, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

As I pointed out in one of my edit summaries, they are being discussed.--Rockfang (talk) 08:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

But they are unsourced. How is anybody supposed to know whether its true or not? As I also pointed out earlier, as unsourced content clearly violates Wikipedia's rule of verifiability. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 08:48, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Forget I even said anything.--Rockfang (talk) 09:36, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I certainly think 'The First Album' cover should be shown. To make a complete change of album cover is definitely worth noting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrub inc (talk • contribs) 18:48, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Lucky Star as an album title

I think it might be worth mentioning that the album's title was changed very late as European 7" pressings of the 'Burning Up' single feature the text 'From the album Lucky Star' on the reverse.

90.202.31.245 (talk) 20:57, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Source? --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:00, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Here is the Dutch 7" for Burning Up and its reverse.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250596249957&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrub inc (talk • contribs) 18:46, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Madonna (album)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

This is a very in-depth article covering all the bases of an article on an album: production, content, songwriting, critical reception, chart performance are all present. Every single source looks reliable and properly formatted, and I didn't notice anything that needed a [citation needed]. The article is properly supplemented with cover art, photography and an appropriate music sample, so that base is covered. Furthermore, there are no issues with stability or unreliable sources, or anything else that would possibly preclude a GA pass.

Very impressive article in all, as far as the scope of sources and comprehensiveness of the article. This has clearly had a lot of work put into it, and it might be deserving of an FA nomination. Reviewer: Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 02:35, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Third World Film

There is a film with Madonna, who narrates, and have not seen much mentioned about it. There is mentioned how happy some of the people are in these places, despite hunger and poverty. There should be productions created with some of their stories and beliefs. Otherwise, it seems, "The Passion", is the most work of anyone from Hollywood.75.202.72.94 (talk) 11:25, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks but how is this related to this article? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:27, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Dispute

This user (ItsAlwaysLupus) keeps on adding genres of dance-pop, pop-rock and others sourcing Allmusic when it has been the general consensus that AMG lists an overall genre for an artist, and generally do not represent an artist's specific work. See extensive discussion regarding this at Talk:Circus (song). — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:46, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

AMG

Let me spell something out for one problematic user. This user claims that "not to use AMG to source genres, as they list overall genres for an artist, not an indivitual work". This statement would be true if the genres listed on Artist's page were identical to the listed genres on this album, which obviously are not. Do all albums list the same genres as the disputer claims? The answer is obvious, hope the user finds out. I hope the disputer will consider that his opinion is not a fact but a baseless claim and even "Any user using them should be trout slapped even when explained." can't be considered as a serious argument but a hateful claim of a person with prejudice against this particular website. ItsAlwaysLupus (talk) 00:19, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

• If you still think that is not enough, please consider asking here

Disco?!

I would love to know what the justification for classifying this album as 'Disco' is (before I edit the box). The Real One Returns (talk) 00:51, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Consensus on "Madonna – The First Album" image

I added a second "alternative cover" to this page with the cover to the 1985 re-release of Madonna, known as Madonna – The First Album. This version of the album (outside of North America) was the only one available from 1985 until the remastered version surfaced in 2001. I cannot see why this image cannot be used as it is mentioned in several places on the page, the image and typography is completely different and it is relevant to displaying the difference in both album covers.

Please comment whether or not you would Support or Oppose that this second image should be used below.

Consensus

• Support – as my comments above. jwad.... ^{blah | blah | blah} 19:40, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
• Support inclusion of second cover, as for your statement above. It was the cover (with a different title even) for the album from 1985 until 2001. — Status {^talk_contribs 18:20, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
• Support - I do support that the most well-known cover should be used however, we can not simply just ignore certain parts of her history. I think that we should display the original image first and as you move further down the page have the more relevant cover shown above the singles. (72.219.42.115 (talk) 02:10, 5 September 2012 (UTC))

Genre

This genre was all dance, disco and R&B. She was famous for her first album being those genres (98.181.62.167 (talk) 07:58, 9 July 2012 (UTC))

I agree. The fact that she was being portrayed as a black artist by appealing to more urban music only reinforces this (72.219.42.115 (talk) 02:07, 5 September 2012 (UTC))