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Stephen Colbert

  • Why is there any entire section pertaining to references to Soledad O'Brien on the Colbert Report? The existance of that entire heading implies that the Colbert Report is more important that it really is. I guess some of the editors of this article really value the Colbert Report. Sounds pretty slanted to me. Bulljive 07 November, 2006
  • Not sure if this used to be an entire section, but even now as a sentence at the end of the article it seemed very out of place. Doesn't seem to be encylopedic content. croll 11:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sensationalism

  • Is there a way to talk about, to identify her, or her employer CNN's, current bent on reporting towards sensationalism? Here she challenges a pacifist parent whose son was beheaded by Al Quaeda to feel happy about an Al Quaeda being killed: [1] "MICHAEL BERG: Well, my reaction is I'm sorry whenever any human being dies. Zarqawi is a human being. He has a family who are reacting just as my family reacted when Nick was killed, and I feel bad for that. (Watch Berg compare Zarqawi to President Bush -- 1:44) (PP) I feel doubly bad, though, because Zarqawi is also a political figure, and his death will re-ignite yet another wave of revenge, and revenge is something that I do not follow, that I do want ask for, that I do not wish for against anybody. And it can't end the cycle. As long as people use violence to combat violence, we will always have violence. O'BRIEN: I have to say, sir, I'm surprised. I know how devastated you and your family were, frankly, when Nick was killed in such a horrible, and brutal and public way. BERG: Well, you shouldn't be surprised, because I have never indicated anything but forgiveness and peace in any interview on the air. O'BRIEN: No, no. And we have spoken before, and I'm well aware of that. But at some point, one would think, is there a moment when you say, 'I'm glad he's dead, the man who killed my son'? BERG: No. How can a human being be glad that another human being is dead?"

Structure of Article

  • Yeah it seems backwards. Kind of annoying actually. Her reporting background should be chronological and not jump all over the place.
  • In accord with WP:Bold, I took a stab at redrafting this in chronological order. As I did so, it looks like there are some inconsistencies in the timeline. It's also a bit ugly, but one step closer to being cleaned up. Also, she has since been transferred (or removed) from the anchor's chair and is now a special correspondence of some sort. Article on this appeared in yesterday's Washington Post. croll 15:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Broadcasting Career

  • I'm almost positive that Soledad O'Brien was a cohost on Beyond 2000 (science and tech show), however I couldn't find a definite answer in my research. User:199.77.144.99
  • I can confirm that she was on the Discovery Channel TV show Beyond 2000 as a CO-Host back in the mid 90s (circa 1994-1995) with Henry Tennanbaum. At that Time the Discovery Channel was airing two different future technology shows, one was beyond 2000 and I cannot remember the name of the other one, but I remember what the host looked like of it (middle aged, light colored hair). --70.126.236.103 12:47, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
She was the "Sun Microsystems Infogal" on the show "Next Step." I added this fact to the article. --Howdybob 07:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

--70.126.236.103 12:53, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • If I remember correctly, Soledad was an 'anchor' on "Channel One", a news program that was shown in my high school (Ben Lomond, Ogden, UT) in 1989 or 1990 or so. It was strange and new, because Channel One paid for TVs to be installed in our classrooms. For five or ten minutes, they would broadcast some news and ads. The TVs were paid for by Channel One's advertizers such as Mountain Dew soda pop, and Gillete Sensor razors. At the time, it sparked debate about whether or not it was OK to let advertizers have this kind of access to our public schools, regardless of any educational side effect. More than anything else, whenever I see Soledad give a news report, I think of this controversy and have a hard time listening to whatever else she is reporting on right now. But I can't confirm the channel one thing. This is so important to the history of Soledad, we must add it, but I don't have date details or better facts, just my memory. I have no idea if channel one still exists, or if it went under. Auja 06:59, 5 February 2006 (UTC) acefrahm.com[reply]
  • There was also "Beyond Tomorrow," which was essentially the same thing as "Beyond 2000". However, I guess I could be getting confused with the "Know Zone."
  • Am I mistaken in remembering Soledad as an anchor on a CNET news show sometime in the mid 90s? Am I mixing that up with another tech show?
  • Sorry -- not sure if this will properly identify me, or if I am adding a comment incorrectly. Soledad was also on CNET TV o USA Network when it first launched (c. 1990-1992?) before the website, wasn't she? 67.170.107.99 14:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I took out a duplicative reference to the "Know Zone" and updated to reflect the news reports that she has lost her current slot to Kiran Chetry (with a cite).KD Tries Again 19:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)KD[reply]

Anything notable happen on Soledad's show recently? Earlier shows of hers had 2008 political controversy around inaccuracy and/or bias and that is published but any recent 2012 items? Seems to be taboo for some reason or perhaps nobody bothered to add content...actually somebody DID step up but rather than make thoughtful improvements somehow it's easier for other editors to just delete. Funny how when breitbart.com is the reference, that can be blocked because of the reference itself, but when CNN is the reference THEN the content is the issue. It's fine to disagree with opinions but nobody is entitled to their own facts or blocking verified facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.21.231.123 (talk) 08:21, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a more skilled Wikipedian who can verify the dead link notation, and reference to that page in web archive? Thank you. AndersW (talk) 05:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Education

It would be nice to have completion dates, & cet, for education, eg,

  • graduated from Smithtown High School East 1984?
  • entered Radcliffe College 1984, class of 1988?
  • AB Harvard College 2000?

Thank you. AndersW (talk) 05:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Husband's name

Is Mr Raymond Bradford or Bradley? AndersW (talk) 05:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is the husband's birth year incorrect? It states 1995, which would make him 13 and make Soledad a pedophile. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.147.252.220 (talk) 19:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all,

Reference #6 linking to Hispanic Magazine is dead and needs to be replaced by http://web.archive.org/web/20060103192542/http://www.hispaniconline.com/magazine/2005/June/CoverStory/index.html but I don't know how to do it. Can someone else help?

Best, Conor (talk) 15:18, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

She's not a black american

According to which Black racist is she not Black? Leave mixed race people the hell alone.

98.245.150.162 (talk) 21:13, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Soledad O'Brien is neither descended from black americans nor does she associate with them. In fact she anchored the blatantly anti-black "Black In America" program. YVNP (talk) 17:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article says that O'Brien's mother was Afro-Cuban. O'Brien herself is an American. That ought to, by the one-drop rule, make O'Brien a black American, would it not? Sarnalios (talk) 14:20, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Soledad Obrien, is not African decent, she is indeed without identity neither being from our bloodlines nor strictly from theirs (Austrian) yet she wishes to be. we must understand the danger here, she wishes so she feels she is. This gives her no license to comment on nor poke her nose into our business, We would like her to fully and completely disown her supposed shady claim of being African American or decent in any way, and to let go of any journalistic lapel felt obligation to comment or mention anything about our community.

To my knowledge none of 'Us' have neither invited nor requested nor appreciate her tainted contributions towards our communities.

(Lengthy section here deleted by a subsequent editor under WP:TALKO and WP:REFACTOR due to it being the nature of a personal attack and irrelevant. Saved in History log.)

Some one reading this should contact CNN and have her stifled from discussing our affairs and stick to Austrian needs. leave us alone we are able to handle our own problems they are ours for crying out loud not yours, Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_table.asp Naji —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.243.11.11 (talk) 06:02, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Her father is AUSTRALIAN, not AUSTRIAN. And her mother is AFRO-CUBAN. This is not your first act of ignorance though. Your first act was attacking a mixed race person and in so doing, becoming a racist yourself.

98.245.150.162 (talk) 21:21, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the Wikipedia Talk page guidelines: "The purpose of a Wikipedia talk page is to provide space for editors to discuss changes to its associated article or project page. Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views." Sarnalios (talk) 13:18, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I refactored the above irrelevant talk page comment by the unregistered editor signing the name "Naji" as permitted by WP:TALKO and WP:REFACTOR. The question of O'Brian presenting herself as a voice for Hispanic, Black, and White issues seems a worthy topic for a controversy section in the article if a quality referenced source can be found and not original research. 5Q5 (talk) 18:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

want to get information on soledad o brien scholarship charity organization my email address is beeniebat@yahoo.com. (208.62.0.14 (talk) 18:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]


There is no "race committee" that decides who gets to be Black and who doesn't. She has Black heritage and if she identifies as Black, then she is.

98.245.150.162 (talk) 21:15, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Here is a Parade Magazine picture of Soledad's parents and her and her siblings. Her mom and her siblings look pretty Black to me. Clearly the effort to deny her racial heritage is not a fair one.

This would also be a good citation for the article, http://www.parade.com/news/views/guest/101017-survival-of-the-fittest.html

173.246.35.178 (talk) 19:41, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Book

Doesn't she have a book coming out?

98.245.148.9 (talk) 12:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 13 February 2012

I work with Soledad and we'd like to update her Wiki page a bit. Most of it is great, but in the TV Career section can we please update it to say the following. This is her official CNN bio.

(NOTE - I deleted from here a large cut and copy paste of the subject CNN bio - imo , such a large post was or could be in good faith, perceived as a Copyright violation - Youreallycan 18:56, 13 February 2012 (UTC)) Nastassiabrown (talk) 18:24, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi we can't add this - there are copyright issues with just posting it here in completeness like this - We are looking for independent WP:RS to add content - if you present some I can look at them for you - we can use her CNN bio for small specific additions but only with care, as it is a WP:PRIMARY Youreallycan 18:54, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay thank you. I will add things in bit by bit, to avoid any infringement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nastassiabrown (talk • contribs) 19:48, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, cool - please provide a link to the web address so users can investigate - regards - Youreallycan 20:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading or Confusing Criticism

Would someone read this and tell me exactly WTH this is supposed to convey?

  • Criticism - 2012 - First Sentence

Accused of using Democratic Party talking points by former Governor of New Hampshire John Sununu, a Republican, during an interview with Sununu.

Seems a little recursive in the way the wording is typed, to me at least. Goldbishop (talk) 18:07, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I didn't dramatically restructure it, but I added more detail for context. The criticism of O'Brien is largely coming from Fox News and other conservative attackers. I personally didn't see anything wrong with what she did, but it's not my job to make judgments. I added the parts about what induced Sununu to claim O'Brien should put on Obama bumper sticker on her head (her citation of generally non-partisan sources which indicated that the Affordable Care Act would extend the life of Medicare, and distinguishing this from the Ryan plan). I also noted that in the incident where she was looking at a liberal blog article, she made a single quotation from the article. I personally would actually remove the latter because there's nothing wrong with looking at an article, be it liberal or conservative. It's the job of journalists to question people, so it makes sense that she would look at a liberal article when she has a conservative person to talk to. Nonetheless, I'm biased, so I didn't remove anything, just added context.

15 August 2012, editor (not Goldbishop).

I've removed it for now. For one thing, the wording is unbalanced, and the sources are not reliable. The article might need to be temporarily protected against drive-by edits. - M0rphzone (talk) 06:43, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Transparently leftist bias on Wikipedia... AGAIN.

Absolutely NO MENTION of her ridiculous exchange with Joel Pollack when she was literally parroting nonsense she didn't understand from her producer about "critical race theory", which was really a watershed moment after which more scrutiny was placed on her to further document her blatant leftist/pro-Democratic bias. From what I recall, there was a subsequent edit-war which took place on the Wikipedia article for this "critical race theory" (essentially a neo-Marxist narrative of history), presumably by Soledad O'Brien's supporters and/or co-workers. A serious edit of this article is in order. Bobinisrael (talk) 20:20, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Transparently rightist biased trolling... AGAIN. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:01, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In other words, you can't address anything I said, and instead prefer to respond to my legitimate and articulate criticism with a worthless one-liner. Unfortunately for you, I will edit the article to include Soledad O'Brien's humiliation at the hands of Joel Pollack. Bobinisrael (talk) 23:05, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Like I said, trolling. As for 'articulate' that is a matter of opinion - If you actually think there are problems with an article, say why without insulting the subject of the article and previous contributors - or do you have any evidence that Soledad O'Brien's co-workers have edited this article? =And while you are at it provide sources to back up your other assertions. Incidentally, I see you refer to things you 'recall' which took place earlier on Wikipedia. I don't suppose you'd care to let us know what name you were editing under at the time? AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:21, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Enjoy :) Bobinisrael (talk) 00:34, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. "Soledad O'Brien's humiliation at the hands of Joel Pollack". So much for NPOV. After a cursory glance, I'm curious how many of the sources used in the 'righting' of this will stand as reliable. 76.248.149.47 (talk) 01:44, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am free to speak candidly in the talk page, am I not? I used NPOV throughout my entire contribution on the main page of the article, which was predictably vandalised cia complete deletion from AndyTheGrump. All of the sources I used are completely legitimate. Good luck contesting ANY of the facts drawn from those sources. Bobinisrael (talk) 04:14, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
For what they are cited for? Not many, I'd think - they mostly seem to be conservative blogs. Then again, given Bobinisrael's self-confessed statements regarding intentionally editing against WP:NPOV policy (and WP:BLP, which applies on talk pages too), I doubt that he's going to be here long to defend it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:10, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
They are all legitimate sources, but of course since they dissent from the leftist narratives you are committed to championing on Wikipedia, you blatantly vandalised the article by deleting the entire new section I composed. Perhaps you should create another "joe job" account in order to try again to silence me, because you won't win this one.Bobinisrael (talk) 04:14, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Note: Bobinisrael's blatant disregard for policy has been raised at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Soledad O'Brien. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:30, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
AndyTheGrump has vandalised the article, and completely deleted an edit I used many reliable sources. Assuming he's a tenured Wikipedian, he should know better. Just more good faith, apparently.Bobinisrael (talk) 04:07, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Not vandalism. The sources are not uniformly acceptable, and are no more neutral than is the intent to use them. They raise real WP:BLP issues. As well, the above accusation of Mr. Grump's using a sockpuppet won't help matters. 76.248.149.47 (talk) 04:49, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is 100% pure vandalism. The sources are absolutely acceptable, and the facts are not in dispute. Apparently, if a source isn't the NYT or BBC (probably two bastions of objectivity, in your mind), it's suspect. This is EXACTLY the bias I've come here to combat on Wikipedia. If you delete the section again I will escalate the issue.Bobinisrael (talk) 05:15, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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