Talk:Nicki Minaj/Archive 2
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Roman Zolanski
Roman is a gay male, not a woman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.113.112.169 (talk) 04:17, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- Since I can't do it myself... can an administrator please clear up the choppiness of a sentence in the first paragraph?
- It reads "is a recording artist acquiring fame after being signed to Young Money."
- I believe it should read "is a recording artist who acquired fame after being signed to Young Money." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachsafteryou (talk • contribs) 23:53, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
- her accent is mockney not typical british! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.83.158 (talk) 23:29, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
- (Not sure where this question should go...) Was Minaj in Every Girl, the first single of Young Money Entertainment's We Are Young Money album? I cleaned up the English in the second paragraph of the 2007-2009 section, but I also removed reference to the Every Girl single because I think Minaj wasn't on it. She's not listed on the Every Girl page or the relevant tracklist for the album. Magnabonzo (talk) 01:24, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- The person [above] is correct, Roman Zolanski is a gay male. The other facts stated about him, and his mother, are true. In her televised documentary titled "My Time Now" she discusses Roman and how he came to be, stating that he is a gay male who was born out of rage. She also states that he says the things she cannot.
http://www.spin.com/articles/nicki-minajs-roman-zolanski-alter-ego-brief-biography Please clear this untrue statement up as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.220.183.43 (talk) 07:53, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
Edit Request, December 7
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Under Personal Life, please remove the link to the Kinsey Scale entry in the following sentence: "There are so many shades in the middle, and you’ve got to let people feel comfortable with saying what they want to say when they want to say it."
This is just bad form generally, and probably violates some BLP guideline. She didn't state she was talking about the Kinsey Scale specifically or even indicate she knew of its existence. Besides, the scale is just one measure of the thing, not the thing itself (i.e. she's talking about a range of sexualities, not the psychological evaluation/analysis of a range of sexualities). 71.192.247.162 (talk) 09:51, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 22:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Profile picture
This picture of Nicki Minaj is very unflattering. can we please be a little more respectful and use a decent picture? perhaps this one http://mypinkfriday.com/media/photos/13651/377931 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.17.144.8 (talk) 19:31, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
- We're not allowed to use copyrighted photos such as those (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:56, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Other Ventures
It should be noted that she has released SIX different shades of nail polish through OPI and has released TWO different lipsticks with MAC. She is also trying to get into fashion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rapfan45 (talk • contribs) 04:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- How is the number of shades relevant? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:42, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
How is it not relevant?--74.179.215.67 (talk) 00:20, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Because the article is about Minaj, not her cosmetics line. Fantastic argument though - really helps to gain new WP:CONSENSUS (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:52, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Personal Life
Is the following fact really needed? "In July 2011, Minaj's cousin Nicholas was murdered near his home in Brooklyn, New York City.[66]"? I find it to be non-relevant to her personal life. 98.235.252.188 (talk) 08:45, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- Did it have an effect on her, her personality, her writing? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:24, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Musical style
- SHE NEEDS a musical style section !!! she has different syles shes pop/R&b/RAP and also ass her different accents every artist have one of these Nicki is a huge icon and even just her Wikipedia page will make people think of her that way and also change the picture to something more recent because that really doesnt represnt her style and image now.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/77084037@N03/6914001397/ < Nicki Minaj in MAC store in New York City.
- We're not allowed to use those photos, due to WP:COPYRIGHT. See the image use policy for more (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:25, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Nicki minaj
Nicki was with young money back when lil wayne was releasing the Drought 3, In 2007. She appears on "cant stop, wont stop" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.28.195.34 (talk) 21:01, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
Minaj/ménage reference
Even in Nicki Minaj's earliest work, it is clear that the name "Minaj" is sexual innuendo—a pseudo-Hindi version of ménage based off her actual last name, Maraj. I think this is worth noting in the article as sexuality was a very important part of her image before she gained her current fame. Before all of today's rappers did their "have a ménage like Nick" punchlines, Nicki herself did them and it's clear that this was an important reflection of her act at the time; even a few more recent songs like "Lil Freak" and "Monster" have such jokes included. I cannot edit this article myself, but I do believe that this is of great significance as means of explaining her stage name. Mhavril39 (talk) 09:34, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
- With a valid reference to support the intent of her name to sound like this (which, as a French speaker, it is obvious), it becomes original research, and this not allowable. For example, Bruce Cockburn has nothing to do with a flaming penis (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:09, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 6 March 2012
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The Wikipedia page for Nicki Minaj has a mistake in it. Nicki was born in 1984 not 1982 as it is stated here Nicki's account on her Website so please fix that as soon as you can. Thanks! --Dylzaar (talk) 16:26, 7 March 2012 (UTC) Dylan Lee
- Please see the archives for this page for the long history. In short: an police report has been accepted by WP:CONSENSUS as showing her true DOB. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:02, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 11 March 2012
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I would like to change the picture for her main page to one of her from the 2011 Billboard Music Awards.
Wikiblogg113 (talk) 03:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Not done You'll not only need to obtain consensus for a change of images ~ however, we'll need to see the image first, too. Thank you, -- MST☆R (Chat Me!) 03:36, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Nicki Minaj Picture
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It is not a very good picture of her and she barely looks like that. Here is a much better picture. http://mypinkfriday.com/media/photos/9251/215851
98.169.33.3 (talk) 03:38, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- Not done - That image is copyrighted, not free to use. -- MST☆R (Chat Me!) 03:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Edit request - 2004 WWE release
The article makes it sound like she wasn't really active until 2007, but in 2004, with The Hood$tars she did the vocals on Victoria's entrance music, "Don't Mess With," that was released on ThemeAddict: WWE The Music, Vol. 6. There, she was credited as Nicki Maraj. This is verified by an official press release at the time of the album's release: http://top40-charts.com/news.php?nid=11223. I think this is a pretty notable event that should be added, since it was a commercial release on a Top 40-reaching album a few years before she hit it "big." — Chad1m Email Talk Cont. 18:59, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 13 March 2012
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Her birth date in this is wrong, Nicki Minaj was born in 1984 and is 27, not 29 years old. Please fix this error
108.132.1.149 (talk) 00:13, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Begoon talk 00:17, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Other ventures
Please may you add an Other ventures section to Nicki Minaj's. I dont see why the person who controls this page is so petty and stubborn, you should also take other consideration being that your not the only one who goes on Nicki Minaj's Wikipedia. If you such a Nicki Minaj FAN/STAN than you WOULD KNOW she has OTHER VENTURES how many references do WE need to prove. It's been all over Tv,her Twitter account, and other places. She had a MAC Lipstick in November 2010 I believe called "Pink 4 Friday" which was sold out in 2 hours. Also she has her own nails with OPI "Its MAC,OPI, and a fragrance too, appareal I'm dominating in every avenue" - From Make Me Proud with Drake. And also her Viva Glam Lipstick with Ricky Martin.And this has alot to do with Nicki Minaj this is showing her as a businesswoman. Other rappers/singers have Other venture sections on their page so obviously it does apply to them. She also is the new face of Pepsi "Pop" on Forbes.com, and
She also shot a Pepsi commercial in Argentina. There is footage on Youtube. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 03:40, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Nicki Pink 4 Friday proof > http://www.osochic.com/2010/11/mac-nicki-minaj-pink-4-friday-lipstick.html
OPI > http://www.opi.com/ < HER NAME RIGHT DOWN THERE
viva-glam . http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/nicki-minaj-and-ricky-martin-promote-mac-new-campaign-hiv-aids-awareness-latin-america_n_1282031.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 23:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Edit request 3/14/12
It says in the article that Check It Out is her most successful single to date in Europe, but Starships just made it to the #3 spot in the UK, making Nicki Minaj the highest-charting female rapper on the UK charts. http://popcrush.com/nicki-minaj-u-k-record-starships/
Also, Superbass hit 4 million digital sales, making it the first song by a female rapper to reach that number. http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/week-ending-march-11-2012-songs-either-way-003340950.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thankmelater18 (talk • contribs) 04:50, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
The bottom of this webpage is a real mess: the 'wiki' code is actually displayed to the user!
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You guys have really buggered up the bottom of this webpage! Something tells me I'm not supposed to be seeing the following:
{{Navbox |name = Young Money Entertainment |bodyclass = hlist |title = Young Money Entertainment
|group1 = Founder |list1 =
Lil Wayne
|group2 = Artists |list2 =
Cory Gunz Drake Gudda Gudda Jae Millz Lil Chuckee Lil Twist Mack Maine Nicki Minaj Christina Milian Shanell T-Streets Tyga AC and YE
|group3 = Former artists |list3 =
Boo Curren$y Kidd Kidd Omarion [[AC and YE
|group4 = Studio albums |list4 =
We Are Young Money
|group5 = Singles |list5 =
"Every Girl" "BedRock" "Roger That" [gold by ac and YE [swag king by ac and YE
}} Chris (talk) 23:16, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
- Found the cause of the problem, it was on this template. Thanks, Chris.Giles! Acalamari 23:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 22 March 2012
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she was abducted by aliens at age 10 and returned at age 19 to become a female rapper
KhuslenBatuur (talk) 21:46, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 22:26, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nicki has other ventures besides being a rapper — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 19:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
"Previous nationalities or the country of birth"...
..."should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability" according to WP:OPENPARAGRAPH. Whoever can edit this page, please remove "Trinidadian-born" from the opening sentence. She is an American musician and became notable as such. --Garik 11 (talk) 21:15, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Nicki also collaborated with Madonna for another song from her album
Not just Give Me All Your Luvin' but also a track called "I Don't Give A". She revealed the track list less than a week before its released and so this information just arose now. I reckon it should be worth mentioning in this article and also since she's the only featured artist for that song not like GMAYL. Just a short sentence would be fine. Bleubeatle (talk) 07:43, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
- Alright looks like the protection is gone so I was able to edit this. Bleubeatle (talk) 05:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Request!
May you add other ventures section please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 18:25, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- Consensus, based on prior discussion, is that her other ventures are not notable enough for a mention here. You'll need to provide reliable sources that show they are before that section will get added. —C.Fred (talk) 00:23, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:D Ok
YES! Thank you this is all I've been asking for. Nicki got a limited edition of her own lipstick from MAC called Pink 4 Friday that went onsale for 4 Fridays starting November 26, 2010 to promote the release of her debut album Pink Friday. http://www.refinery29.com/nicki-minaj-and-mac-go-pink-on-black-friday
She received her own nail polish line, from OPI http://mypinkfriday.com/news/49901
Mattel released a one of a kind Nicki Minaj doll for charity that was auctioned on charitybuzz.com http://mypinkfriday.com/news/53381
Nicki Minaj and Ricky Martin ware cthe new face of VivaGlam Lipstic replacing Cyndi Lauper and Lady Gaga from the AIDS/HIV fundraiser. http://www.maccosmetics.com/whats_new/8360/index.tmpl?cm_mmc=google-_-ENG_ENG%7cViva%20Glam%7cProduct%7cExact%7cPC-_-Viva%20Glam%7cSPP%7cCollections%7cNicki%20Lipstick-_-nicki%20minaj%20viva%20glam
She teamed up with CASIO TRYX and helped lauch the camera. http://www.casio.com/news/content/7E6993FA-061A-488C-9F17-1AFB7D466E54/ Nokia also teamed with Nicki to promote Nokia Lumia 900. http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/10/nicki-minaj-promotes-lumia-900-using-a-blackberry/
Nicki is also still endorsing products for Pepsi,which she shot a commercial for in Argentina, she was initially planned to film a 7-up commercial but was replaced by Cee Lo Green as stated in her song "Come on A Cone" .http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-pepsi-to-team-with-nicki-minaj-but-not-on-pop-20120328,0,7135888.story
She is also endorsing for Adidas, which she filmed a commercial for in a secret location in New York on with fashion designer Jeremy Scott. http://rapfix.mtv.com/2012/04/12/nicki-minaj-jeremy-scott-adidas-fall-campaign/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 14:07, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Not all of the claims above are substantiated by the sources. For instance, the Chicago Tribune story says she's in some business arrangement with Pepsi, but that it won't be to endorse a new drink. It mentions nothing about Argentina, 7-Up, Green, or the song. —C.Fred (talk) 18:05, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- In her song Come on A Cone she explained all of the endorsment with Pepsi, so can the other stuff I put in be put into an other ventures section for Nicki Minaj until I prove the Pepsi thing right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 22:01, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- No. Two sentences—one about Pepsi, one about the deal with adidas—aren't enough to warrant a section. —C.Fred (talk) 22:14, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- What? This is like a whole paragraph. The Pink 4 Friday lipstick/The VivaGlam/ The Nokia one/Casio/OPI nails... and other stuff. Look at the influences section its not even 3 sentences and its there. So can you please add it, why wouldn't you want people to know more about Nicki Minaj since you control her page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 23:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- If the lipstick, nails, etc. were significant enough to be covered in the article, there should be independent reliable sources to cite, not just Minaj's or the company's website. —C.Fred (talk) 23:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Ok thats just YOUR opinion, your clearly abusing your power, why can't you simply add the Other ventures section and call it a day, I don't see what the big deal is. If you are a TRUE Nicki Minaj fan you would be taking all the things people have said into consideration. I showed you my sources so what else do you want ? What would be more reliable than Nicki Minaj's very own website giving you the source ? It's all set in stone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 03:45, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- And I have different links not just from mypinkfriday.com So how many links do I have to find now? If you can't even take the very own person's website that have RELIABLE SOURCES, then what else do you need ? Minaj can't lie about what she has done she's in the public eye. So can you please stop being so petty, and I'm trying to say thhis very nicely, you should be happy that there are concerned fans wanting the best for their artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 03:51, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- Please review WP:Self-published sources. I am not suggesting that she would lie, but there is always the incentive to overstate what one has done (or understate one's age). That's why Wikipedia prefers (and in some cases insists on) secondary sources to support statements in articles—if it's been reported in a newspaper or magazine, then it's been reviewed by editors before it was printed, so we place more reliance on that source than one written by the subject's press agent or the subject herself. That has nothing to do with how much I like Minaj and everything to do with Wikipedia policies like WP:Verifiability.
- That said, I'm going to alert Bwilkins (talk · contribs) to this discussion. Since he had participated in the prior discussions, I'll see if the sources change his perspective on the situation, or if he still feels that there should not be a section on other ventures. —C.Fred (talk) 12:31, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- The majority of celebrity endorsements are not notable, whatsoever. Indeed, in most cases, there's no direct link between the celebrity and the product other than being paid to lend one's face to it. For example, Michael Jackson's is not notable for having done a Pepsi commercial - it's only notable because his hair caught fire while filming it. Wikipedia's goal is not to promote the various products/endeavours/endorsements that someone is involved it, and it adds undue weight to those products.
- There needs to be zero argument about using the person's own website as a source is not considered to be a reliable source - it's a core policy on Wikipedia.
- This is also not a fan page - it's an encyclopedia entry. The number of blocks that have been handed out due to extensive WP:FANCRUFT is a pretty long list. Cruft and promotion do not belong; period. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:54, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
It doesnt matter if this a fan page or encylcopedia, people come on Wikipedia to learn about what people have done, Nicki Minaj is more than just a girl from Queens who put out two albums, shes a businesswoman, and if other ventures don't matter than why do I see Lady GaGa,Rihanna, Jay-Z. and other musicians with other ventures sections ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 22:43, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- Other stuff exists; "Rihanna has an other ventures section" is not a valid reason for Minaj to have one. That said, Gaga has a foundation and Jay-Z owns several businesses; those activities are significant enough in scope to warrant coverage, and that's why those articles have sections on them. The section on Rihanna's other activities is extensively sourced. Accordingly, consensus there is that the activities are significant enough to be covered. However, there is no clear consensus to include a similar section in Minaj's article. —C.Fred (talk) 00:39, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well can you add something similar to other ventures since you object everything anyone has to say? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 19:45, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
New Image
There's a new image of Nicki Minaj:
I think you could replace the picture in infobox with that picture. The old picture is not clear and this picture is Clear and bigger. --37.107.135.117 (talk) 14:38, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Other ventures
YOU NEED TO ADD A OTHER VENTURES TO HER ARTICLE BECAUSE SHE HAS HAD THE Pink 4 FRIDAY LIPSTICK FROM MAC. and her NEW OPI NAIL COLLECTION AND IF YOU DONT NEED ANY REFERENCES BECUASE ITS ALL OVER THE NEWS. I hate how whoever did her article doesnt add more information her when she is just as important as Lady GaGa and Rihanna. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.88.13.255 (talk) 01:32, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Um, all over the news or not, references are always required (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:22, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Lol, judging by the shouting and the terrible grammar you must be a rap fan. Use of CAPS and not signing your posts is considered rude and to be 'dissin da wiki'.1812ahill (talk) 15:33, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
- "Yo yo yo, he just keepin' it real!" Yeah..real DUMB --RThompson82 (talk) 01:41, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 1 April 2012
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Nicki Minaj was born in 1984, not 1982. Please correct this. 108.132.1.149 (talk) 18:15, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 18:33, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
http://www.biography.com/people/nicki-minaj-579574 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.84.195.200 (talk) 05:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Not done: The current source, a police report, disagrees and seems more reliable. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 16:09, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Leaving Twitter...and music?
http://deadfreaks.com/post/21515464914/nicki-minaj-considering-to-quit-the-music-industry ??? --RThompson82 (talk) 03:57, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Major BLP concern
I have a major WP:BLP issue. While using a Dallas Police Complaint form as a source is I guess OK, I'm concerned that the article presents no context for said report. If we're going to cite a legal matter, then we need to include a reference in the article with a link to a media report. Otherwise I think it violates BLP. Was she cleared? Found guilty? Is it still before the courts. This must be included otherwise I don't think we can use that source. 70.72.223.215 (talk)
- Report and some discussion is at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Nicki_Minaj - Youreallycan 14:31, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 5 May 2012
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Here I have a new picture of her and I hope you can use it. It's a nicer and more clear picture of her. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have copyright on it either.
98.169.33.3 (talk) 02:58, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- Image already in the article. --MuZemike 19:43, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
pepsi-other ventures ! REQUEST
Nicki's Pepsi commercial — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 11:06, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 5 May 2012
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why is hip hop not listed under her genres? she's is primarily known for being a rapper. you need to add hip hop on her genres. also she does r&b as well. some sources include: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_Me_Up_Scotty_(mixtape) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Fridaythis these links are from her album and mixtape they both clearly list her genres as having primarily hip and r&b and don't say "not done" because I made a clear request and listed two sources. 98.169.33.3 (talk) 02:42, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- Wikipedia articles cannot be used as sources for other Wikipedia articles. Also, since Miss Minaj is a living person, very high standards of referencing for assertions about her apply. If published reliable sources state that she is a hip hop artist, then of course that information can be added.
- What I think you might be referring to is the appearance of her article as of 22:15 4 May 2012. Her musical genre was changed from hip hop to "Euro pop" with this edit. Since Europop is not mentioned in the article and Hip Hop is, I have changed the genre back to its previous appearance which included "hip hop". Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 03:12, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- Please do not add random genres to the infobox. Mozart and Nicki Minaj are not hiphoppers. Arcandam (talk) 12:10, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 13 May 2012
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Minaj also became popular by having a secret sexual affair on rapper Safaree Samuels with a young female called Rhianon Stockley-Hughes from the United Kingom. This was said to have happened on 8th March 2009. After the rumors came out Nicki was then rumored to be bisexual. Nicki was also she was linked to this by stating some raunchy lyrics in her songs referring to girls. Minaj and 'Rhi' were then later seen leaving a hotel in Miami holding hands as they waited for there ride home. Xlil rhix (talk) 12:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not done WP:GOSSIP Arcandam (talk) 12:06, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
edit request: please add diacritic marks to the romanization of her tattoo
The more correct romanization of her tattoo with diacritic marks is
shàngdì yǔ nǐ cháng zài
You can easily verify this by clicking on each of the Chinese characters listed and looking for the accented pronunciation under "pinyin". Technically the marks are important to proper reading of the tattoo especially for learners of Mandarin.
69.181.223.115 (talk) 02:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC) (nielsbot, username pending)
Done --GouramiWatcher (Gulp) 01:57, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
EDIT REQUEST
There is an Other Ventures section required by demand — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 01:46, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —C.Fred (talk) 01:53, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
heres the ones for Pepsi http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1684612/nicki-minaj-pepsi-ad.jhtml http://fashion.elle.com/culture/2012/05/07/nicki-minajs-pepsi-commercial-drops/
Her Barbie Doll. http://www.billboard.com/news/nicki-minaj-barbie-doll-a-very-major-moment-1005603722.story#/news/nicki-minaj-barbie-doll-a-very-major-moment-1005603722.story http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/02/nicki-minaj-katy-perry-barbie-doll/
Her MAC Endorsements. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/nicki-minaj-and-ricky-martin-promote-mac-new-campaign-hiv-aids-awareness-latin-america_n_1282031.html
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/blogs/thread-count/fashion-week-nicki-minaj-and-ricky-martin-celebrate-with-mac-20120216 http://www.temptalia.com/mac-nicki-minaj-pink-friday-lipstick http://news.instyle.com/2010/11/23/nicki-minajs-limited-edition-mac-lipstick-pink-4-friday/
CASIO http://celebrity-gossip.net/nicki-minaj/nicki-minajs-tryx-camera-launch-lady-495823
http://sofurious.com/2011/04/08/nicki-minaj-launches-casio-tryx-camera-in-nyc/
Adidas http://rapfix.mtv.com/2012/04/12/nicki-minaj-jeremy-scott-adidas-fall-campaign/ http://www.vibe.com/photo-gallery/nicki-minaj-shoots-jeremy-scott-x-adidas-commercial-brooklyn
ALL INDEPENDENT RELIABLE SOURCES — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- Um, no ... massive fail as WP:RS for some of those. Besides, the page should NOT be an advertisement for the products in question (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:20, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Wow.. what figures, its always something wrong. So petty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 11:22, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- The Barbie doll might have been the one of these worth mentioning, if it had gone into regular mass production. That would be a sign that the toy industry was acknowledging her achievements. However, it's a special customized doll, and only one will be made. Custom Barbies don't quite reach the same level, so on the whole, I don't think the doll warrants a mention in the article. —C.Fred (talk) 12:38, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- Feel free to change my edits: I was trying this morning to capture the essence of the desired changes without being wholly promotional (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:39, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- I work through my watchlist chronologically, so I saw the discussion before I saw the edits to the article. There is now a "Products and endorsements" section in the article. It's a one-paragraph section, but that's the level of detail that's called for at this point in her career. I have edited it some—I mentioned MAC by name in the article, but it made sense to structure the section with a parallel list, so it flowed better with the company name instead of "a cosmetics company." I think extreme caution needs to be taken before adding to the section, but I think including it helps the article overall. —C.Fred (talk) 12:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- Feel free to change my edits: I was trying this morning to capture the essence of the desired changes without being wholly promotional (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:39, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you C.Fred for at least complying. This is all I have been trying to do for the article this whole time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk • contribs) 03:21, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- You did, of course, look at all of the editors who made additions to the page before this statement, or the one below, right? I like the edit summary from this one myself. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:04, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you C.Fred for at least complying. This is all I have been trying to do for the article this whole time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk • contribs) 03:21, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
EDIT REQUEST to Other Ventures
May you please add the other endorsements/products listed above this . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 11:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not done I do not see where you have obtained WP:CONSENSUS to add those. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Its pretty obvious that you aren't an advocate of Minaj. As I can tell by how negligent you are about what's she has actually endorsed. It's almost like you don't want her to have any accomplishments, you must be a hater. There is sufficent enough of evidence, and reliable sources,or whatever else you try to impede for Nicki's article to have notable information on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk • contribs) 11:38, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm a big advocate of following the policies of Wikipedia. It is NOT the intent of an encyclopedia to provide multiple opportunities to WP:PROMOTE companies who pay her to hock their wares. Becoming a mouthpiece for a company is not a sign that someone "has become successful" - it's a sign that someone is using your success to further build their own - a form of slavery. Most Trini's I know are more than acutely aware of indentured servitude, and such servitude by Minaj merely detracts from her "independent" nature. Although I understand that one needs to make money while there's money to be made, we are not using Minaj's article to sell Pepsi or makeup. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:50, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
- Whoa, it has become clear that you obviously have a problem with the Trinidian race. So that's the reason behind all your mischeif as we can all see. I think that if her race is really bothering that much that you shouldn't be on her page. (Personal attack removed) It's 2012 I thought racism would have died down, especially over the Internet where we are all one. I think that the only people who should have a authority over someone's Wikipedia page is someone who is up-to-date,consistent,devoted and also somewhat fond of that person. Not someone who is late on information, and also won't take others advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 03:15, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- "you obviously have a problem with the Trinidian race" - There's not such thing as "Trinidian". As to whether there's such a thing as a "Trinidadian race" - well, I suspect that Black Stalin might agree with the idea ("one race, the Caribbean man, from the same place...who make the same trip...on the same ship"), a literal reading of his words proved quite offensive to many Trinidadians. Please see the Trinidad and Tobago article for a better understanding of the topic. And as far as the attitude of Wikipedia editors to Trinidadian people, I believe that there are few editors who are more favourably inclined to we Trinidadians than BWilkins. Guettarda (talk) 06:23, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 28 May 2012
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I would like to change the picture.
IAdoreRoman (talk) 18:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- Do you have another image in mind? Keep in mind our requirement that images be available under an appropriate free license. Guettarda (talk) 18:13, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Yeah new pic would be better, it doesn't do her justice IMHO --HumusTheCowboy (talk) 01:35, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 28 May 2012
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I suggest you guys use this photo http://icecreamconvos.com/pics-nicki-minaj-ricky-martin-attend-mac-viva-glam-party/
IAdoreRoman (talk) 18:22, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not done the linked images are credited to Getty Images and lacks any indication that they are available under a Wikipedia-compatible free-use license. Please see Wikipedia:Image use policy. Guettarda (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
EDIT REQUEST
Can she get a new pic preferably this one http://allnicki.com/post/23919206522/nicki-minaj-interview-in-japan-2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 23:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
- Doubtful. Digging around a little, I find that image with a ModelPress (mdpr.jp) watermark on it, which means it's probably all-rights-reserved. —C.Fred (talk) 00:34, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
[1] http://twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ http://www.boston.com/ae/music/blog/2012/06/nicki_minaj_fun.html http://perezhilton.com/category/nicki-minaj http://nicki-minaj.org/ http://www.facebook.com/nickiminajCite error: There are <ref>
tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).Jessie Maraj (talk) 22:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Her Son
While in her "teen" years, young Nicki gave birth to a healthy, beautiful boy. Though she loved him she did not want to be a teen mom, in some of her songs she expresses her feelings as in one of her songs called "Fly" she says "Trying to forgive you for abandoning me". since she did no want to be a teen mom she put him up for adoption and is now 12 years old and lives in Stillwater, Oklahoma. He was born September 13th, 1999. Jessie Maraj (talk) 22:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC) http://www.boston.com/ae/music/blog/2012/06/nicki_minaj_fun.html, <http://twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ small>— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessie Maraj (talk • contribs) 21:53, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
- Show some reliable sources, or else it's invalid. People claim to be my kids all the time :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 22:00, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Add to products and endorsements
http://www.billboard.com/news/nicki-minaj-launching-perfume-this-fall-1006792952.story#/news/nicki-minaj-launching-perfume-this-fall-1006792952.story Nicki has a perfume coming this fall.--1flyguyrob (talk) 17:02, 22 June 2012 (UTC)ThugLife
http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2012-06/elizabeth-arden-buys-2-give-back-brands-analyst-blog.aspx?storyid=148219 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CDFC:19D0:D444:5EE6:9E7F:C400 (talk) 23:51, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. All you have to do is wait until you're autoconfirmed and you can add sourced information to semi-protected articles like Nicki Minaj yourself. Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 01:44, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Or, in the case of the anonymous editor above, to create an account and then have the account become autoconfirmed. —C.Fred (talk) 01:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry Fred, I didn't realize that the 2602(etc...) was an IP-address, my mistake. Sorry, Shearonink (talk) 02:02, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Or, in the case of the anonymous editor above, to create an account and then have the account become autoconfirmed. —C.Fred (talk) 01:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Associated acts
I still don't think that David Guetta and Rick Ross meet the definition of "associated acts" as defined by Template:Infobox musical artist#associated acts. Both Guetta and Ross have featured/been featured by Nicki Minaj a couple of times for some songs, but that normally doesn't make someone an associated act (besides, Guetta features people all the time, so by that definition everyone is an associated act of him); in addition, while Guetta has helped in the production of Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded, that too doesn't make someone an associated act. If there is something I've missed and they do meet the criteria, then that's fine, but at the moment I don't think they do, though I'm not going to revert over it. Thanks. Acalamari 08:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Done I agree if we add Guetta and Ross then we would have to name all the artist she has collaborated with more than once on a feature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1flyguyrob (talk • contribs) 03:20, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- I agree with your sentiments about David Guetta in the sense that because so many artists have featured on his songs it would overload his and other infoboxes. However, the criteria for being an associated act includes "other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions". With Ross having collaborated with Minaj on 6 songs, Drake 5 songs and Lil Wayne 9 songs, I think these artists meet this criteria substantially. --Jennie | ☎ 16:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
- I was not aware they had all collaborated with Minaj that many times, it's worth including them then. I'm glad we agree on David Guetta, though. :) Acalamari 17:54, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
- I agree with your sentiments about David Guetta in the sense that because so many artists have featured on his songs it would overload his and other infoboxes. However, the criteria for being an associated act includes "other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions". With Ross having collaborated with Minaj on 6 songs, Drake 5 songs and Lil Wayne 9 songs, I think these artists meet this criteria substantially. --Jennie | ☎ 16:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
I Think for Associated acts put Eminem for one of them — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raplover505 (talk • contribs) 00:53, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- Not done - Eminem has only collaborated with Minaj once. Unfortunately, the guidelines for when to include an associated act (Template:Infobox musical artist#associated acts) say not to include one-off collaborations. Jennie | ☎ 16:04, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 26 July 2012
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In the first paragraph of the section Early Life, reference to the song “I’m the Best”, should be in quotation marks.
208.125.254.26 (talk) 17:20, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Done Good call! Floating Boat A boat that can float! 17:31, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
Using 'Maraj' in the early article sections.
Hello,
I've decided to bring over a discussion me and Steel1943 have been having on their talk page (here) concerning whether to use "Maraj" in the early sections and then use Minaj later on, or just use "Minaj" all the way through. WP:LASTNAME states: "For people well known by one-word names, nicknames or pseudonyms, but who often also use their legal names professionally (e.g. musician/actors Beyoncé Knowles, André Benjamin, Jennifer Lopez; doctor/broadcaster Dr. Drew Pinsky), use the legal surname". As Minaj does not use her legal name profesionally, I don't think "Maraj" should be used as the surname in the early sections of the article.
The guideline also states: "People who are best known by a pseudonym should be subsequently referred to by their pseudonymous surnames", as found on other recording artists' articles like Lady Gaga, despite having a legal name (Stefani Germanotta), the pseudonym or professional name (Gaga) is used throughout the article - including 'Early life'. I think we should keep Minaj throughout like previous and for consistency. Thoughts from other editors? :) Jennie | ☎ 09:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- I agree I think Minaj should be used throughout the career beginnings paragraph. If she currently refers to hereself as Minaj, than that is what it should be under. 1flyguyrob | User talk:1flyguyrob 11:25, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- I am opposed to this for a very specific reason: the use of her pseudonym "Nicki Minaj" is not mentioned until the end of the first "Career" paragraph. Per WP:LASTNAME, the very first sentence in the section starts off with "After the initial mention of any name...". With that being said, the mention of her name changing to "Nicki Minaj" doesn't happen until the end of the section, meaning all mentions of her name prior to that point should be "Maraj." Mentioning the name "Minaj" in regards to points in her career before she was known as "Minaj" will cause confusion to the reader, making the reader assume that she was known as "Minaj" when she was in Hood$tars. If anyone disagrees with what I am stating, I honestly feel like this discussion needs to be moved to MOS:BIO. This issue we are discussing is more of an issue with the way WP:LASTNAME is written. Thank you. Steel1943 (talk) 15:50, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- When the WP:LASTNAME guideline states "After the initial mention of any name, the person should be referred to by surname only", this just refers to the practice of using a surname throughout an article and not calling them by the first name. It doesn't mean that you should necessarily use the first surname mentioned throughout. As demonstrated by the Lady Gaga article, the surname 'Gaga' is still used even when she hadn't adopted this pseudonym - the fact that "Minaj" adopted this later in life has no bearing on whether we shouldn't use it or not. It can be explained in narrative to the reader when she adopted this name and the fact she didn't use it in Hood$tars. If anything, using two surnames is more confusing to the reader and I don't think is present on many (or even any) articles on Wikipedia. I think we should revert it back to how it was, if you want to pursue this further we could WP:RFC? Jennie | ☎ 16:49, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Per the sentence "After the initial mention of any name, the person should be referred to by surname only", one could understand that as the way I do; a surname should not be used in an article until the moment in the article when "official" renaming of the person happens. To state, in this instance, that a person named "Nicki Minaj" was part of Hood$tars would be inaccurate (since, per the article, she didn't possess the name "Nicki Minaj" until after her involvement with that group.) I'm not stating that the first surname mentioned should be used throughout the article, as that would be inaccurate in biographies when a person changes their name one or more times.. Also, What I am stating is that the WP:LASTNAME section of MOS:BIO is not clear in regards to the issue and topic which we are debating. As I still think that WP:LASTNAME isn't clear in a precedent regarding this topic, and your statement is a matter of opinion (as well as mine), I do concur that there needs to be WP:RFC. However, since the article that I'm questioning is not Nicki Minaj, but rather Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies, I'm moving this conversation over there (specifically here), and I'm going to tag the conversation with the WP:RFC template. (I'm not disputing Nicki Minaj; I'm disputing WP:LASTNAME.) Thank you. Steel1943 (talk) 00:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- I've reverted your edits until a consensus for change is reached (as per WP:Reverting). Thanks. Jennie | ☎ 18:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Images
Many of the images here are copyvio from other websites like the Associated Press and MTV though I doubt the uploader knew anything about it. I'm removing those images now. I do have connections to some Young Money employees however that I could probably convince them to release some totally free images. Let me see what I can do. Thanks Secret account 03:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- That would be amazing please let me know ASAP. Thank you. 1flyguyrob 4:08, 7 Augut 2012 (UTC)
Twitch?
what's with the blinking?! is there some underlying tic there, or 100% an "act"?
either way, should be the FIRST THING mentioned under image! aside from the wigs and outfits, it is the number one thing associated with her.
heck, she even uses "blink" in her tweets now! 66.105.218.22 (talk) 20:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
- Not done - I'm not sure what the excessive blinking seen first in the Super Bass video and then in the video to Stupid Hoe means. I agree that it seems to be associated with her, but I can't find a single source on it. It's significance isn't mentioned anywhere. For now, I can't do anything without a source. If you find something on the internet, post it here and I'll see if I can put it in (the source has to be reliable, see here). Jennie | ☎ 22:19, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- i'll look around, but in the meantime how about just a throwaway comment that her act "involves" heavy blinking? like in that line about being "animated" -- animated could mean a lot of things; in her case it just HAPPENS to primarily mean blinking.
- leave the "significance" of it out until a source is found. 66.105.218.14 (talk) 10:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Barbz?
her fans are supposedly called "Barbz". i assume this comes from the (Harajuku) Barbie image. should be in the article! 66.105.218.22 (talk) 20:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)\
- Done - I cannot believe the Barbz aren't mentioned in this article! I've added that, as well as information about her Twitter use in the "Public Image" section. Jennie | ☎ 16:45, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- she actually attributes it to her "Pink Barbie" image, fwiw.
- where Harajuku ends and Pink begins, I don't know, but perhaps it would be better to use "Pink" in the article. 66.105.218.14 (talk) 10:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Birthdate
In her E! TV special, it said her birthdate is December 8, 1984. Here's the link from www.mypinkfriday.com. [2] Please change ASAP. Jovannimay (talk) 18:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Reframing the question: is E! a sufficiently reliable source that we'll go with their reporting on her date of birth? —C.Fred (talk) 18:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- I think E! meets the criteria of being a "well-established news outlet" and that information certainly isn't opinion content. Additionally, Minaj's official website endorses the source by linking to it. Is there a problem with sourcing a video though - does it meet WP:RS? I know transcripts are generally preferred... Jennie | ☎ 21:51, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Not done - Updated - I was watching the E! documentary, and when Minaj is talking about her 5th grade teacher, they show clips of them together in November 1993. Knowing nothing about the American-grade system, I Googled and you are 10/11 in the 5th grade and as this was November, Minaj was 10 years old and would turn 11 the next month. 11 years old in December 1993 = 1993 - 11 = 1982. There are claims Minaj lied about her age, and as stated by the footnotes, the only reliable source is the one from the Police department. A lot of evidence points to her real birthdate being 1982 and unless we can find a reliable source for it being otherwise, we can't change it. Jennie | ☎ 12:55, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
We need images!
This is just a general message to anybody who may be passing by this article and is looking for ways to help. WP:FLICKR is probably the most common source for images (especially images of BLP's), but the Nicki Minaj images (with Creative-Commons "free" license) are few in number, of poor-quality and a bit old. We would really like to include images that are relevant to the sections of the article. Most prominently, the 2011 - present: Roman Reloaded section has none, and I know 1flyguyrob has tried hard to find some in this area, but has been met with copyvio restrictions (something I have also). It would be welcomed if anyone could upload and add some good-quality images to this article, maybe you have some from her concerts or tours on a camera/computer or just know where some are around the internet - anything would be appreciated really! I've recently nominated this article for GA status and relevant, free-use images form part of the criteria and would be useful.
I think the following sections could do with some decorating:
- 1.5 2011–present: Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded
- 2.2 Alter egos
- 3.1 Products and endorsement
- 4 Personal life
Thanks! :) Jennie | ☎ 18:19, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
GOOD ARTICLE :D
Good Article
Hello All! I just GOOD Article this!
Please review and keep making changes or I will remove the Good Article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deunick (talk • contribs) 22:28, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
GA Review
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Reviewer: Pyrotec (talk) 06:54, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- I will review. Pyrotec (talk) 06:54, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Initial comments
I've had a quick look at the body of the article, but I've ignored the WP:Lead at this stage and I've not checked any of the references, on this basis the article appears to be at or about GA-level. I'm now going to work my way through the article, starting at Early life working my way to the end and then going back to do the Lead. This may take or day or so. Pyrotec (talk) 20:50, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
- Early life -
- This looks OK, but I would like to make a comment about Note 1. It currently states: ".... The most definitive source, however, is the official Dallas Police Report from July 2011 which states her birthdate is 12/08/1982". Well the ref (ref 1) shows a redacted copy of part of the Dallas Police Report; and I assume that Nicki Minaj stated her DOB, but it might not have been checked (at that stage/if at all). I believe that all that can be claimed is (in my words, its not compulsory to use them) ... The most reliable source, however, is a redacted copy of the official Dallas Police Report from July 2011 which states her birthdate is 12/08/1982". (There is more than one use of the word redacted - I'm refering to the "hiding" of some information by printing a block of black ink over that information).
- Waiting for someone more intimate with this article to make this decision.--Thevampireashlee (talk) 10:28, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Done - Went ahead and made the changes anyway. Yolo. lol. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 10:31, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Great. Thanks. Pyrotec (talk) 11:11, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Music career -
- 2004–2007: Career beginnings -
- There is an overlap/repeat of information given in the previous section. Early life has: ... Nicki had a passion to become an actress, but failed at attempts to pursue her career due to the lack of roles she received, and agents. In 2001, she was cast in the off-Broadway play, "In Case You Forget".[19] After her acting career failed to take off, Minaj worked at Red Lobster in the Bronx at the age of 19 as a waitress and purchased her first vehicle, a BMW.[20] Other jobs Minaj held were administrative assistant, customer service, an an office manager position at an unknown business located on Wall Street.[21][22] and this subsection starts off: Minaj was fired from Red Lobster because of her discourteousness to other customers. She had been fired from at least fifteen jobs for similar antics.[23]. After, Minaj rapped in a foursome ....
- Done - --Thevampireashlee (talk) 10:28, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Great. Thanks. Pyrotec (talk) 11:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- A decision aught to be made about what is Early life and what is music Career, and the information placed in the relevant section/subsection.
- I'm not sure, but this does not appear to be a sentence: After, Minaj rapped in a foursome group called "Hoodstars" (stylized Hood$tars or H.O.O.D.S.T.A.R.S), which consisted of group members Scaff Beezy, Lou$tar, and 7even Up.[24]. It could mean: After trying other work/jobs <talk your pick>, Minaj rapped in a foursome group called "Hoodstars" ..... This statement should be the start of this paragraph, as everything else in the paragraph follows on from this - its all about rapping/music (and change of "stage name").
- Done - --Thevampireashlee (talk) 10:28, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Great. Thanks. Pyrotec (talk) 11:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- 2007–09: Mixtapes and Young Money & 2010–11: Pink Friday -
- These two subsections look OK.
- 2011–present: Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded -
- The final part of the final sentence in the fourth paragraph: Dates have been rescheduled and tickets can be found on LiveNation and Ticketmaster.[67] reads like WP:SPAM#External link spamming. I have no problem with the citation being used to confirm the rescheduled dates, but it cannot be used to promote ticket sales. Pyrotec (talk) 11:23, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Done It now reads → "Dates have since been rescheduled." Jennie | ☎ 13:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Great. Thanks. Pyrotec (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Otherwise OK.
- Artistry -
...Stopping for now. To be continued later. Pyrotec (talk) 11:43, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- As the article was changed on 20 August 2012 by this series of edits, I'll re-review the article from the beginning of Life and career.
- Life and career -
- 1982–2002: Early life -
- The first sentence of the first paragraph states: Onika Tanya Maraj was born December 8, 1982, yet Note 1 states that Minaj's birthyear has been reported in various media outlets as being 1984. As this is a biography of a living person (see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons), and there is uncertainly when she was born a WP:Reliable source, should be provided to support this claim. Note: a redacted copy of a "crime report" published on web page does not constitute a reliable source.
- Done Probably the most talked about thing on the Talk-page and it's frequency of discussion caused me to put up a notice about any future requests to edit it, although I can understand the confusion. I think that Minaj may have lied in the early part of her career (and this has spread across the internet) as she allegedly claimed that she was born in 1984 rather than 1982. I tried to find a source when preparing the article for GA review but I found a lot of conflicting views. I am pretty certain that she is born in 1982, and have explained this in an edit request (Talk:Nicki Minaj#Birthdate)), the problem was finding a WP:RS that supported this. I've now removed the Dallas Police Report and replaced it with a source from MTV, which describes Minaj celebrating her 29th birthday in 2011. Jennie | ☎ 20:20, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- The problem is that the article is dated Wednesday, 14 December 2011 and all it states is that "Nicki Minaj received a special treat for her 29th birthday, as Madonna and M.I.A. celebrated her big day on the set of their new music video ....", so she was probably born in December 1982. Pyrotec (talk) 10:25, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm. Do you think it might be worth replacing the lead and first sentence with Onika Tanya Maraj (born December 8, 1982 or 1984), better known as Nicki Minaj? There is just no reliable way of proving either way. Although I said I was sure about it being 1982, I was searching around and in an interview last year, an interviewer suggested her age being 26 and she didn't bother to correct her. I think things might become more clear in December, as news outlets/fans may go ahead and wish her a Happy 30th (a milestone) - her reaction may be helpful. But, for now? Jennie | ☎ 11:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- That would be OK. I was quite happy with the Note 1 that was present back here. The problem was the later edits whcih stated, without any reliable sources to back it up, that she was born on a certain date. I should point out, I have no personal preference between the two years and if there is no definitive answer I'd rather see a note saying that there is a difference of opinion in the various citations. Pyrotec (talk) 15:34, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm. Do you think it might be worth replacing the lead and first sentence with Onika Tanya Maraj (born December 8, 1982 or 1984), better known as Nicki Minaj? There is just no reliable way of proving either way. Although I said I was sure about it being 1982, I was searching around and in an interview last year, an interviewer suggested her age being 26 and she didn't bother to correct her. I think things might become more clear in December, as news outlets/fans may go ahead and wish her a Happy 30th (a milestone) - her reaction may be helpful. But, for now? Jennie | ☎ 11:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- The problem is that the article is dated Wednesday, 14 December 2011 and all it states is that "Nicki Minaj received a special treat for her 29th birthday, as Madonna and M.I.A. celebrated her big day on the set of their new music video ....", so she was probably born in December 1982. Pyrotec (talk) 10:25, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- 2010–11: Pink Friday and mainstream success -
- This subsection title lacks neutrality, and appears to be non-compliant with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
- The first sentence of the final paragraph appears to be non-compliant with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. It states: "Minaj gained major success with the release of her single "Super Bass", ever since popular teen idols Selena Gomez and Taylor Swift showed their love of the song. Minaj and Swift performed the song on her Fearless Tour". It should be edited to comply with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, or removed.
- The citation given for this is a raw web link, which appears to be a blog. A Blog site is not regarded as a WP:Reliable Source and as a raw web link, it is not properly cited.
- Done changed the wording and source. Jennie | ☎ 20:20, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Done removed "mainstream success" from the sub-header on the grounds of WP:NPOV and WP:BLP. The source regarding her writing two books has been replaced with one from Capital FM. I believe that's the last edit we needed to fix from this new batch. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 23:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
At this point, as the latest edits appear to lack neutrality and possibly are non-compliant with Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, I'm putting the review On Hold. Pyrotec (talk) 19:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- 2012–present: New projects and American Idol -
- Looks OK.
- Artistry -
- Public image -
- The second paragraph has two {{unreliable source?}} flags.
- Comment: - 93 is a personal blog and 94 is a Nicki Minaj fan site. I looked up and down for a reliable source and fell short. We may need to remove these two sentences altogether. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 14:06, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- Done Think I'll remove this, I couldn't find any sources either, if one comes along, I'll re-add it. I'm sure someone will bring it up on the talk page in the future. Jennie | ☎ 19:08, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- Comment: - I found one mention of it, but it's obscure. Check the 37th image in the gallery on this MSNBC article. [1] --Thevampireashlee (talk) 00:37, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- Done Think I'll remove this, I couldn't find any sources either, if one comes along, I'll re-add it. I'm sure someone will bring it up on the talk page in the future. Jennie | ☎ 19:08, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- Alter egos, Rapping technique & Influences -
- Generally OK, but ref 129 (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1691906/nicki-minaj-foxy-brown-influence.jhtml) is a raw web link.
- Done #129 is now fully cited. Jennie | ☎ 11:38, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- Other ventures -
- Products and endorsements -
- Looks OK.
- Personal life -
- Its not clear what ref 152 is: possibly "Maraj, Onika, Tyler Williams, Nikhil Seetharam, Aubrey Graham, and Jay Jenkins, Jones, Nasir. Champion" are authors. 2012. N.p.: Is "Young Money, Cash Money" the title (in which case its usually in italics) and "Universal Republic" the publisher? Note: 2012 appears twice.
- Done Someone has listed the writers/producers of the track "Champion" as a source. I've provided two RS and more text. Jennie | ☎ 13:28, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, the replacement Ref 152 and the new Ref 153 are much clearer than one old 152. Pyrotec (talk) 15:59, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- Feud with Lil' Kim -
- Refs 166 & 167 are the same. Why not use ref 166 twice?
- Done Changed so there is now one ref. Jennie | ☎ 11:38, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
...Stopping for now. To be continued later. Pyrotec (talk) 11:21, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- It also appears again at ref 171.
Done corrected also. Jennie | ☎ 18:51, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
- WP:Lead -
- Its a possibly a bit "thin" for an article of this length, but it's just about acceptable.
- It's also got that definitive DOB - (born December 8, 1982) and I don't think there is a WP:RS for that at present.
- Note: the Infobox is also quoting the same date using, as a citation, that redacted police report in the TMZ.
Done I've sourced both dates of birth reliably. I've opened a discussion on the talk page amongst the other editors to decide to either provide both years or keep either; I'm guessing the we'll come to a decision after the GA nomination process and so when one is made, it will either remain the same or I will remove the other source. Thanks. Jennie | ☎ 19:08, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Pyrotec (talk) 15:59, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Overall summary
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it reasonably well written?
- Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
- A. References to sources:
- B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
- Well referenced
- C. No original research:
- A. References to sources:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
- B. Focused:
- A. Major aspects:
- Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc:
- No edit wars, etc:
- Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Nine images, two of which are non-free and seven free.
- B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass or Fail:
I'm please to be able to award this article GA-status. Thanks to all those editors with to persistence to get this article through numerous "false starts" and hurdles. Well done. Pyrotec (talk) 08:18, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Infobox image
I noticed a debate going on about the image that is used in the infobox. While this image is more recent, in this image you can more clearly see her face, which is a requirement in an infobox image. The person is question must be easily recognizable. Thanks, Statυs (talk) 20:28, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
I am agreeing with you on this! I reviewed this in my Good Article Review.Deunick (talk) 23:03, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't think people would struggle to recognise her from that image, and I'm not quite sure where the requirements for Infobox images are. If you want to use the other the image then feel free to do so! I quite like both, I just thought that it would probably more relevant to show her "in action". :) Jennie | ☎ 01:00, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- The cotton ball one is superior, I think, but we could still use the bleach blonde photo elsewhere in the article. Slightly off-topic, but I've wanted to put a sound clip into this article for weeks now. I struggled to find an appropriate one, settling for a clip from "Roman Holiday". The song has so much cursing, I had to be careful with editing (since I couldn't find a clean version of the song anywhere). Let me know what you think. :) --Thevampireashlee (talk) 06:40, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay. I swapped the infobox image back to the cotton ball one. Seems like we all agree this photo is best. I moved the previous infobox image down to the article. I moved some of the other images around and removed the music video screen shot, since it was non-free and seemed slightly out of place. I wish we had a free-licensed image of her from 2007-08, but we've got to work with what we have. I found another image on Flickr, doctored it up as best I could, and added it in. Cleaned up some of the bare URL refs and added a few bells and whistles here and there. I think it's finally ready. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 08:41, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
feminist section
I can remove that I said she was a femnist and just put her support of women, you dont have to remove the ENTIRE section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1flyguyrob (talk • contribs) 20:59, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Can you please sign your comments? And this (with or without the feminist claims) would still fall under original research. Unless there are published sources that state that Minaj feels so strongly about the image/portrayal of women then I think the Image section covers this adequately. Jennie | ☎ 21:02, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Renaming the section "Female Empowerement" is still misleading and is original research. Where do sources support that she has empowered females? Furthermore, "Jezebel" [#102] is not a reliable source to support her views on women and neither is "Contact Music" [#105]. This section comprises of quotes that point to an view that is unsupported by published sources. Jennie | ☎ 21:21, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Female empowerment is not misleading, and I have provided reliable sources to this section, and the quotes will stress Minaj's thoughts on this issue and the publiced sources also supported her views on female empowerment 1flyguyrob —Preceding undated comment added 21:34, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- None of the sources provided even use the word "feminist". And the only source used to back up that claim was this, which is a 100 character blurb. Definitely not sufficient enough to make such a slanderous statement. I've removed it. Also, the quote was added, apparently, from her MTV document, but the documentary was not cited or linked to. I could not find a free version of it, and so I have removed that entirely. I think we should merge the "female empowerment" section into "public image", since the bulk of the section was completely unreliable and original research. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 22:27, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed, I think It would fit with the other comment about women. Jennie | ☎ 22:29, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oops. I made the changes before reading your comment. Everything's been set straight now. Sadly, I think we're going to have to wait a while longer before this can be promoted to Good, due to the article's current instability. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 22:39, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- That's fine! It may have to be delayed, although this hasn't happened (I think at all) on this article before. Thanks. Jennie | ☎ 22:43, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oops. I made the changes before reading your comment. Everything's been set straight now. Sadly, I think we're going to have to wait a while longer before this can be promoted to Good, due to the article's current instability. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 22:39, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed, I think It would fit with the other comment about women. Jennie | ☎ 22:29, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- None of the sources provided even use the word "feminist". And the only source used to back up that claim was this, which is a 100 character blurb. Definitely not sufficient enough to make such a slanderous statement. I've removed it. Also, the quote was added, apparently, from her MTV document, but the documentary was not cited or linked to. I could not find a free version of it, and so I have removed that entirely. I think we should merge the "female empowerment" section into "public image", since the bulk of the section was completely unreliable and original research. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 22:27, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
Nicholas Telemaque
I can't believe this article does not shed any light on the gunning down of her cousin last year. Can someone do the research, type it up, then add it to the article please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.214.63 (talk) 18:29, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Done You can find Nicholas mentioned already in the Personal life section. Jennie | ☎ 18:42, 22 August 2012 (UTC) Question: Are you looking for specific information about Nicholas? The section could do with some expanding. You are welcome to type something up here and myself or another editor could put it in the article for you. Alternatively, if you have any related sources they could be useful for the expansion of this. Thanks. Jennie | ☎ 19:32, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
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