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More accurate etymology of the term "Aldehyde"
Regarding the term Aldehyde, it is an Arabic term. In no way was this mentioned in the printed description from Wiki:
Etymology
The word aldehyde was coined by Justus von Liebig as a contraction of the Latin alcohol dehydrogenatus (dehydrogenated alcohol).[6] In the past, aldehydes were sometimes named after the corresponding alcohols, for example, vinous aldehyde for acetaldehyde. (Vinous is from Latin vinum = wine (the traditional source of ethanol), cognate with vinyl.)
The term formyl group is derived from the Latin and/or Italian word formica = ant. This word can be recognized in the simplest aldehyde, formaldehyde (methanal), and in the simplest carboxylic acid, formic acid (methanoic acid, an acid, but also an aldehyde
Can this please be modified for accuracy?
Thanks, sophia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.135.55.229 (talk) 17:24, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- Please feel free to modify it yourself, provided that you can provide an inline citation to a reliable source for that assertion (and note that "reliable" means something different for Wikipedia purposes than is implied by its plain-English meaning; click that link for the details). If no Wikipedia-defined reliable source can be provided, then the assertion cannot be used in Wikipedia. Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 21:36, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- The OED agrees with Wikipedia - "Etymology: = Al. dehȳd. abbreviation for Alcohol dehydrogenatum". So the only Arabic part of the word is the al- element - the Arabic definite article. SpinningSpark 21:38, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, the "Al-" part was derived from Arabic,
but not as the definite article.In Aldehyde, "Al-" is short for "Alcohol". "Alcohol" isn't old Latin, but a 16th C. neologism derived from "al-kuħl" an Arabic term for face powder. See: wiktionary:alcohol and wiktionary:كحل. --Robert Keiden (talk) 06:40, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, the "Al-" part was derived from Arabic,
Adam Leitman Bailey
Adam Leitman Bailey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This very page is quite heavy on attorney fluff. It is rather unclear what is noteable regarding this page. Editor assistance requested and appreciated greatly. 67.205.230.34 (talk) 01:08, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- The article was created by and has been heavily edited by various socks affiliated with the law firm in one way or another - see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Internalb/Archive for an example. That being said, the subject is at least plausibly notable (appearances on Bill O'Reilly & CNN, some coverage in a WSJ law blog, an article about him in the New York Observer here). I agree that the tone is rather puffy and promotional, which should be toned down (or out) as appropriate; and it may need to be revised to include observations like, "to his critics, Mr. Bailey is a marketer and self-promoter more than a legal virtuoso" (from the Observer). I'm not in a position right now to review the article against its sources in detail but I do agree that the thing would benefit by an objective eye. JohnInDC (talk) 02:31, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- This issue could use a bit more attention, I'm afraid. The IP editor removed a lot of material from the page (maybe too much but the page was pretty puffy as it was), and added in a bit of the less-flattering material as well. Another editor has, without comment, restored the material back to its prior condition, twice now and without discussion on the Talk page. The IP editor may have gone too far but it seems to me that just throwing the old stuff back up isn't the solution. I have no interest in an edit war but I see one looming and so am soliciting others' comments at the article Talk page. Thanks. (Oh, also, I just removed the "answered" tag from this entry; I hope that wasn't improper.) JohnInDC (talk) 20:54, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think the matter is in hand again. The incommunicative editor turned out to be an intern at the subject law firm (several had been blocked previously for COI editing) and I figure either he'll edit in good faith consistent with NPOV going forward or find himself blocked. JohnInDC (talk) 22:16, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
- This issue could use a bit more attention, I'm afraid. The IP editor removed a lot of material from the page (maybe too much but the page was pretty puffy as it was), and added in a bit of the less-flattering material as well. Another editor has, without comment, restored the material back to its prior condition, twice now and without discussion on the Talk page. The IP editor may have gone too far but it seems to me that just throwing the old stuff back up isn't the solution. I have no interest in an edit war but I see one looming and so am soliciting others' comments at the article Talk page. Thanks. (Oh, also, I just removed the "answered" tag from this entry; I hope that wasn't improper.) JohnInDC (talk) 20:54, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Request Help With Sorcha Faal Article
I am having problems with the Sorcha Faal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) article which I belive falls well within the guidlines of Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative Views, but in being so is causing problems on what exactly which sources, references, etc., to use, especially since many of them are in forign languages. Thank you. Arzk02587kArzk02587k (talk) 13:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
- Instead of edit warring to try and keep your material in hte article, you should be discussing the issues either on the article talk page or directly with the other editors involved. As far as I can see, the removal of material was justified, the sources cited (at least all the ones I checked) do not mention Sorcha Faal at all. You are in danger of being blocked if you continue the way you are going. SpinningSpark 14:29, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
WP says "the WP page you came here from doesn't exist"
I wanted to comment on File:Grafeo.JPG, so I clicked the Talk tab, which was red. That brought up http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=File_talk:Grafeo.JPG&action=edit&redlink=1. The "redlink" part of the URI is perfectly reasonable. But that page says
- Wikipedia does not have a talk page with this exact title. Note that the corresponding subject page File:Grafeo.JPG also does not exist.
To which I say, Whaaaaa? --Thnidu (talk) 01:58, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- The file is on Wikimedia Commons. Whaaaaa! Fentener van Vlissingen (talk) 02:18, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
- If you click the link to "description page there" on the Wikipedia page you will go straight to the right Commons page. But I would point out that opening a discussion on image talk pages is usually quite ineffective because not many people are watching them. You would be better off finding a community page appropriate to whatever it is you want to discuss. SpinningSpark 06:41, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
English Vinglish
English Vinglish (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) I noticed a user was repeatedly posting something that appears to seriously violate WP:NOR, WP:RS, and WP:NPOV (in an edit war with someone else). I have attempted to explain the issue on the talk page, but I don't think I'm getting anywhere. Help? Kerfuffler (talk) 11:56, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, wrong forum. Please read again the instructions at the top of this page and take your issue to WP:DRN. You will also need to list diffs in order to help those who will try to resolve the problem without them having to analyse all the edits for themselves. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:59, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Vince Stanzione
I have requested assistance for article for Vince Stanzione before, but it appears that a biased editor, possibly the subject himself, is continually rewriting the article in favour of the subject. The article has been nominated for deletion many times before, rewritten and rewritten again in a perpetual state of edit war between people trying to minimise the bias and repeated biased editors. Wikipedia isn't a place to gain credibility or for self promotion but this article has served as a source of such for the subject for a long time now. The subject is alleged to run a get rich quick scheme.
I'm relatively new to Wikipedia so I don't even know where to begin in fixing this, or if an outright deletion is even possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Heseltin (talk • contribs) 23:44, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
- The article is currently nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vince Stanzione so this discussion would best be carried on there. Please provide diffs to the alleged edit warring. SpinningSpark 00:48, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Settdigger Requests Editor Assistance Re: Seb az86556 & Tarc's reverts of my Obama talk page edits, and Wikidemon's Obstructions of my Contributions
User SGCM has suggested I seek "other boards" to assist in this dispute, so I am doing so.
As stated elsewhere, users Seb az86556 & Tarc disagreed with my right to post a long, substantive and to-the-point edit to the Obama talk page re: Obama's assassination of Al-awlawki. I would like an "informal" mediator to assist in a detailed discussion of this dispute between the three of us.
I am sure you too can undertand the frustration of having your long, thoughtful contribution to a talk page that directly references an edit under debate being summarily deleted.
I reference it here below so that you can more easily engage with what you believe wasn't "specific" and "relevant" about my post. Thanks.
Obama Rubicon
Despite some denigrations of historians by some editors on this page, any U.S. president's actions in life must be viewed through the lens of historical significance. In this regard, the Magna Carta and Caesar's Crossing of the Rubicon become significant in any discussion of Obama's decision to assassinate Al-Awlawkwi.
The chief purpose of the Magna Carta, signed by King John and the chief nobles who served him in the 13th Century, its 800 year old precedent, is this: kings are not almighty. The idea of habeas corpus, literally "let us have the body" was a new idea at the time. The idea is this: a king, before he can execute whatever citizen he feels like executing, must display that person publically, and announce his crimes. I.e., the Magna Carta
prohibits secret executions like the former government of Argentina's assassinations of
political dissidents by helicopter. The distinction here between citizen and non-citizen is obviously important. 13th Century nobles were less concerned if King John decided to execute a French spy, obviously, but if he wanted to execute an English nobleman for treason, that crime had to be announced publically, and the following judicial proceeding had to happen speedily.
Any president (like George W. Bush, Abraham Lincoln and several others) who violates the 800 year old Magna Carta precedent becomes historically significant for this reason.
Someone brought up the red herring of the U.S. Civil War earlier. Hey folks, in a civil war all bets are off, obviously. Then Blues kill Grays, Roundheads Kill Loyalists, and Whites kill Reds. However, even then, during the war, citizenship is obviously hugely significant. If Lincoln (our greatest president) had had the power to drone people in Boston to death, would he have used it? Obviously he would have had no problem ordering a drone to pick up good old Robert E. Lee, much as he liked him: they were on opposite sides.
Now, no sane person or student of history imagines that Barack Obama is the first U.S. President, first world leader, or first powerful dude to have one of his own bumped off. I mean, this goes back to caveman times. But hey: remember, anatomically modern humans back in the Paleolithic had the same sized brains and were just as interested in the complexities of human government (even though they were only governing 30 or so bodies). Even in 20,000
B.C., deciding to kill your own citizen who you rule over is a big deal.
All this is to say, again, that any responsible encyclopedia article about Barack Obama must mention this Al-Awlawki breach of the Magna Carta just as any responsible article about Abraham Lincoln or George W. Bush should do the same.
It is unreasonable and unfair to object to this edit on WP:BLP grounds. In a very real sense, U.S. Presidents are public property. And the most public of all their acts, the killing of one of our own (although clearly, an American who wasn't especially eager to remain American) without judicial process, is of paramount importance in the consideration of the effect these Presidents lives have on world history.
Of course, Lincoln's desire to drone Lee to death is interesting. Al-Awlawkwi is, by no stretch of the imagination, a Robert E. Lee of Al-Qaeda. But putting aside his relative significance or insignificance, this whole debate about eternal war vis a vis the "War against Terrorism" is significant, and, ultimately, misleading.
Even if we equate Al-Qaeda with Nazi Germany and call Al-Awlawkwi their version of Goebbels because he was a propagandist, the fact remains that this Muslim Goebbels is a U.S. Citizen. When we caught John Walker, we locked him up. Admittedly, this too is a violation of the Magna Carta, but, in any case, at least it wasn't a secret execution.
Finally, over and above any discussion whatsoever of this whatsoever is the Obama administration's blase attitude about the whole thing. With John Walker, the Bush administration made a concerted effort to engage in debate on the topic.
This results in a major shortcoming concerning the logic of Wikipedia editors now and in the future: if the U.S. government, with its huge influence on the media, decides NOT to discuss something, do we all suddenly agree it is not worth discussing?
Interested in your thoughts.
Settdigger (talk) 06:01, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- This editor needs some mentorship, which they seem disinclined to accept.[1] Probably heading for an indefinite block given battleground approach, renewed edit warring after a 1-week block. - Wikidemon (talk) 06:22, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Please retract your accusation. I did no such thing. I attempted to make contructive contributions to the Obama talk page which were then deleted. I then made a much smaller edit, to satisfy those with shorter attention spans. This you did not engage with. No: instead you asked that my discussion be "closed." This is not constructive. It is counter-productive. Refrain from personal attacks. Engage with the substance of my objections. Settdigger (talk) 06:32, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- I feel that Wikidemon is right. Rather than settle things in a rational manner, you have attempted to take this dispute into every arena you possibly can. I'm not going to comment on the substance of your complaint, but your method of resolving it leaves much to be desired. Trusilver 06:38, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- I ask that one of the three users I have invited to this discussion engage with the substance, not the form, of my complaint. Thank you. Settdigger (talk) 06:40, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'm a DRN volunteer who has not been involved in this dispute (except to close the DRN case as an inappropriate request). What I said was "DRN only handles content disputes. Disputes about editor conduct are outside the scope of this noticeboard. There are other boards on Wikipedia that focus on editor conduct." That does not mean "seeking "other boards" to assist in this dispute", which can be construed as a form of WP:FORUMSHOPPING, and is against Wikipedia's guidelines. Please don't drag me into this dispute (which I have no desire to participate in) by misquoting me.--SGCM (talk) 06:41, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Please retract your accusation. I did no such thing. I attempted to make contructive contributions to the Obama talk page which were then deleted. I then made a much smaller edit, to satisfy those with shorter attention spans. This you did not engage with. No: instead you asked that my discussion be "closed." This is not constructive. It is counter-productive. Refrain from personal attacks. Engage with the substance of my objections. Settdigger (talk) 06:32, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- And this here, for anyone who did not read the edit notice at the top of the page, is not one of the Wikipedia fora for resolving disputes of any kind. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:47, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Though this is approaching the Kafkaesque: would you be so kind, brother, as to direct me to one of the proper "fora," if it is indeed right that this isn't one of them? Thank you. Settdigger (talk) 06:49, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Read Wikipedia:Dispute Resolution. And please don't misquote me, or mention my name again, I've no desire to be involved in this.--SGCM (talk) 06:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you, brother. Settdigger (talk) 06:52, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- (EC X N) They're also arguing idiosyncratic points in bizarre turgid prose, aggressively persistent, accusing other editors of bad faith when engaged, and rejecting attempts at guidance or appeals to Wikipedia's editing standards. Coaching them how to launch dispute process is counterproductive because they need to stop and learn how to edit Wikipedia, not try to win something wrong and unwinnable. If a willing admin happens to be watching this, better nip this now than later. If nobody is able to get through to them, this looks like a lost cause. - Wikidemon (talk) 06:55, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- You should take this to WP:ANI. He's hopping through all the noticeboards, copying and pasting the same long spiel, with enough WP:ROPE that it'll eventually hang him if he isn't careful. He needs a mentor.--SGCM (talk) 07:02, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, if this doesn't go away on its own shortly I'll likely put out a request there. Thanks. - Wikidemon (talk) 07:07, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you, brothers. Settdigger (talk) 07:20, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Mentor? LOL. I made a positive, constructive suggestion on his Talk page, and he quickly deleted it, with no response. I know he has every right to delete such content, but the absence of even a response to my quite polite post suggest little interest in others' opinions. HiLo48 (talk) 08:03, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- I am often very interested in your opinion, HiLo, as you know. Settdigger (talk) 08:18, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Mentor? LOL. I made a positive, constructive suggestion on his Talk page, and he quickly deleted it, with no response. I know he has every right to delete such content, but the absence of even a response to my quite polite post suggest little interest in others' opinions. HiLo48 (talk) 08:03, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you, brothers. Settdigger (talk) 07:20, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, if this doesn't go away on its own shortly I'll likely put out a request there. Thanks. - Wikidemon (talk) 07:07, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- You should take this to WP:ANI. He's hopping through all the noticeboards, copying and pasting the same long spiel, with enough WP:ROPE that it'll eventually hang him if he isn't careful. He needs a mentor.--SGCM (talk) 07:02, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Bizarre turgidity. It is something that needs discussion. Settdigger (talk) 08:20, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Possibly, but not on Wikipedia. Discussion about additions to articles should be centred on the contents of reliable sources. Please start by providing some. SpinningSpark 22:10, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
- (EC X N) They're also arguing idiosyncratic points in bizarre turgid prose, aggressively persistent, accusing other editors of bad faith when engaged, and rejecting attempts at guidance or appeals to Wikipedia's editing standards. Coaching them how to launch dispute process is counterproductive because they need to stop and learn how to edit Wikipedia, not try to win something wrong and unwinnable. If a willing admin happens to be watching this, better nip this now than later. If nobody is able to get through to them, this looks like a lost cause. - Wikidemon (talk) 06:55, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you, brother. Settdigger (talk) 06:52, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Read Wikipedia:Dispute Resolution. And please don't misquote me, or mention my name again, I've no desire to be involved in this.--SGCM (talk) 06:51, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Though this is approaching the Kafkaesque: would you be so kind, brother, as to direct me to one of the proper "fora," if it is indeed right that this isn't one of them? Thank you. Settdigger (talk) 06:49, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Deletion candidate?
Hi, just came across the article on Nichijū . After I set yet another ref tag I noticed that the one on multiple issues had been set in February 2012. So far the article has no references except the internal wiki links. It reads as an essay reflecting personal opinion. I never set a tag for deletion before and have no experience with that would just like some others to have a look at the article if possible.--Catflap08 (talk) 20:23, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
- That sort of "storytelling" style is nearly always the sign of copying from elsewhere and will usually be a copyright violation. That is indeed the case in this instance, so I have reverted the article back to its pre-copyvio stub version. But to answer your original question, no, essay style is not grounds for deletion, but rather grounds for improvement. Neither is lack of references per se, although this could possibly point to more serious problems such as lack of notability, or even a hoax, both of which are valid grounds for deletion. Before nominating an article for deletion on notbility grounds, the nominator is expected to search themselves for the existence of sources. In this particular case, I think it is probable that sources would be found, hence AfD would be inappropriate. SpinningSpark 22:06, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
J... removed my translation and text from Pure Land Buddhism article
I am new to wiki but I am a qualified scholar and practitioner of Buddhism and Pure Land practices. I was notified after J... removed all my edits to the Pure Land Buddhism. Everything. At first I had trouble with the formating and the bot helped on the first round of deletes but this last one was just wrong.
I checked policy and the translations even new ones by the editor and their original content are allowed even on that page you see other poster put Chinese text too. I added two other translations of the Pure Land dharani, posted in Chinese Buddhism and added two resources from my books listed on amazon. I am not promoting myself just clarifying the edit. I thought it was odd until I checked J.... talk profile to see it filled with dubious edits and mostly I just don't want to get into anything here on wiki.
What should I do? the edits I am interested in making are carefully done to add to but not detract the original articles. I'm needing to decide if it is worth my effort at all to update articles here on wiki because I now have to worry about flaming editors??!
- I'm sorry your first impression is that it's not worth continuing to contribute to Wikipedia. Unfortunately there are frequent instances of WP:NPOV (point of view pushing) but the best way to address the issues is to do it the 'Buddhist way' by avoiding conflict and keeping calm. However, this is not the right forum for discussing content issues so I would suggest discussing the problems on the article talk page, and waiting for replies to any comments you have already made there. There is really only a need to report such issues if they can't be resolved through normal talk. If they can't, as a last resort you should post about a content issue at WP:DRN. Some useful help and advice on citing sources are at WP:NOR (no original research), WP:CITE (how to cite sources), and WP:RS (definitions of what we consider to be reliable sources). One policy that you must learn, is to sign your posts. Hope this helps. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:12, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm having trouble with this I signed it before and I see it is not there. I will try again. --Ven Hong Yang, Bhikshuni 03:18, 10 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by VenHongyang (talk • contribs) ok I created my userpage and now I had a chance to figure out the article talk thing. Thanks to your help! --Ven Hong Yang, Bhikshuni 03:49, 10 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by VenHongyang (talk • contribs)
where is central america there??!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LocationNSAm.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.176.66.130 (talk) 17:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
- It isn't there. By the creator of the file's own explanation, this is an illustration of the division of the Americas into the two continents of North America and South America (including small regions that can be designated either way). There is by the definition of the map no place for a separate "Central America" (which, of course, is not a continent). --Orange Mike | Talk 18:23, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Adam Leitman Bailey redux
Adam Leitman Bailey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
I apologize for adding this at the bottom while a prior discussion remains on the page (up here), but the disputes around the article are becoming a bit of a morass. Matters would really benefit from just two or three extra eyes, and I think watchers of this page are more likely to notice something at the bottom.
The gist is this: From inception, the page has been plagued by COI edits by associates of the subject, most of them apparently interns at the subject's law firm. They've added CV-type promotional language, repeatedly removed maintenance templates and tried to keep any unfavorable material out of the article. Nineteen were blocked in July 2011, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Internalb/Archive. Recently an IP editor pared the article way back, only to have the edits reverted by an editor who also turned out also to be an intern. I decided that the IP went too far, and in an effort to find middle ground between the two, made several edits over several days, all documented and explained on the Talk page. I think they are sound. Nevertheless my changes met with some resistance from the intern and from a couple of newly-created SPAs, which I take to be new sock or meat puppets (and have reported them as such).
The wholesale reversions have stopped, for now, and the dispute has narrowed to one or two critical comments about the subject that I included in the article. I was able to obtain a brief block against one of the SPAs who kept removing that material along with the COI template, but it has been suggested to me that it would be a good idea to enlist the views of some third party editors in the (likely) event the dispute continues. I thought about going to WP:DRN or WP:BLPN but elected to cast my line here first. If my assessment of things is wrong, that's fine, I don't have much of a stake in the article one way or the other, beyond a desire not to capitulate to socks and SPAs just because of their persistence. The Talk page has all the background and it's not that long; but for those who want to get right to the meat of it, the most useful portions are here and here through the end of the page. (Please add your views there, rather than here.) Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 21:19, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
- (While I welcome any input at all, the thorniest bits are the two "critical" sentences that I added - they are reliably sourced (now x2) and not that harsh in my view; I think they're appropriately included, but of course it's a BLP and I want the article to stay on the right side of that line.) JohnInDC (talk) 21:34, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Irish Anti War Movement Page
Irish Anti-War Movement (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
An editor has posted deliberate mis - information regarding our organisation, every time I edit it a there appears to be an automated programme called cluebot that reverts to the previous edit. As this is deliberate and mis leading information, what can I do about this? Lola Hynes, Secretary - Irish Anti War Movement — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolagem (talk • contribs) 10:21, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
- It seems to have been addressed now by another editor. Cluebot uses a sophisticated learning algorithm to identify vandalism, which we get a lot of here, part of which is to assign greater trust to regular editors over new editors. You can report false positives here. These reports are used to further train Cluebot.
- I suspect the main thing that triggered Cluebot into action here (besides the deletion of a large portion of text) is that a reference was removed. I note that the editor who cleaned up the article has left in the referenced part. While that is negative to your organisation, it is reliably referenced and relevant. This is the reason that we do not encourage people to edit subjects with which they are associated - it is very difficult to write neutrally about yourself/your own organisation. SpinningSpark 15:06, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
New entry
I am the son of the author and publisher Donald Cowie, who received an obituary in the London INDEPENDENT when he died in 2006. As I have an entry myself (even if that seems to have been composed by friends), I wonder if I am allowed to create an entry for my father -- obviously submitting it to you for vetting?
Thanks
you
Peter Cowie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.199.39.127 (talk) 15:12, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Your conflict-of-interest is so strong here that I would seriously advise against it. Also note that not everybody who appears in the Independent is notable as we define it here in Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:28, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- I also note that your own article is entirely lacking in independent sources. SpinningSpark 19:47, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- An authored obituary in a major national newspaper like The Independent is generally an indication of notability. There's also an entry for him in Oxford Companion to New Zealand Literature. However, Orangemike is right in strongly cautioning you about taking it on. Perhaps what you could do is register an account and write a draft in your user space. Then ask a few outside editors to give you some advice before trying to publish it here. It will have to be written from an entirely neutral point of view (hard to do when you are close to the subject) and not contain any original research (ditto). Voceditenore (talk) 14:45, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- The material in the OCNZL (itself a tertiary source) is also unsourced (at least in the online version) and contains some interesting but quirky language that I'd really feel uncomfortable using in its present form. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:13, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- It's also in print form but only in snippet view on Google Books [2]. Wording aside, I'd consider books published by Oxford University Press to be reliable sources. Voceditenore (talk) 15:24, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- The material in the OCNZL (itself a tertiary source) is also unsourced (at least in the online version) and contains some interesting but quirky language that I'd really feel uncomfortable using in its present form. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:13, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
RE:Louis Pienaar author
Greetings, Kindly advice me who submitted louis pienaar article on wikipedia so i can get permission to use the article for my visual work!
Thanking you very much for your atention,consideration and cooperation!
Yours Sincerely signed TMSingiswa — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.185.194.17 (talk) 06:05, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
- You can find the list of contributors to the article from its history tab. However, you do not need to seek anyone's permission provided that you comply with the Creative Commons Licence. SpinningSpark 06:36, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
an editor is removing my edits for no good reason then making threats
- Penrith, New South Wales (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Benjamin Egge (edit | project page | history | links | watch | logs)
I made proper and correct changes and the editor rejected them. I made another attempt and again the editor rejected them and made a threat of banning me. I KNOW the people and their notoriety as citizens and they are legit. What do I do to stop the editor acting like this. Instead of threats can I have some help. Very unprofessional of your editor and quite bully like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.30.35.193 (talk) 03:27, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
- You added unsourced material to an article, then added improperly sourced material to an article. Personal knowledge is not verifiable for other editors is not a reliable source (you may read the reliable sourcing guidelines here). Just existing does not make a person notable enough to be included, there has to be multiple secondary sources unaffiliated with the subject discussing them in depth and not trivially (you may view the notability guidelines here). He's not "our" editor, and are no professional editors here, we're all volunteers. By attempting to edit the page, you are in the same club as him.
- Right below the "Save Page" button is the text "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." This includes removal.
- The message he left you was a template warning which did link to the policy on verifiability and citing sources. It's standard practice, though I would've started with a uw2 instead of a uw3. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:48, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
- Please read WP:BRD which explains how you should proceed if you are reverted. Instead of repeatedly inserting material, you should be discussing on the talk page of the article or the other editor. Administrators can and do block people for edit warring in articles. It will make no difference whether or not you are in the right, it is the disruption on the public facing page that we do not like. SpinningSpark 05:43, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
Leukemia
On reading the names of people who died from leukemia and my husband\ is not on your list He was a noted East Coast Comedian and worked with many super stars and was the only comic who ever entertained at the Waldorf Astoria in N.Y. He worked at the N.Y Mountains. The Pocono Mountains the Latin Casino, Palumbos and many famous night clubs.He entertained the troops in WW2 with a whole show. He had his on t.v show and entertained on the Mike Douglas show and the Joey Bishop show. He worked in the Casinos in Atlantic City. He received a medal from the Masons and made a member. He entertained on all the cruise ships and went around around the world. He died of Leukemia in 1999. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.216.160.112 (talk) 17:57, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
- You have not said who your husband is. What article are you reading? We do not have a list of sufferers in the leukemia article (nor, in general, do we do that for any other disease). I suspect you were looking at a page that is not part of Wikipedia. SpinningSpark 18:12, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
My name is Bernice Golden and I am his Wife. His real name was Sydney Golden. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.216.160.112 (talk) 18:02, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
- What name did he perform under? Is there an article here about him? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:17, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
iMDsoft article creation - need some suggestions
Any suggestion what I should do?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/iMDsoft
I did really work hard on this one, working out all past issues !!! Finally content is fine, but now sources seems to be the problem - which wasnt the case before. So now im really clueless!!!
Thanks Alinette — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alinette (talk • contribs) 12:04, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- This would be better suited in Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk, but in summary, it doesn't look like the references contain enough information about iMDsoft. WP:42 is a handy quick guide for what are suitable references, but in summary, each one needs to talk specifically about iMDsoft, or at least devote several paragraphs to it. Most references you have given either don't mention iMDsoft at all, or devote no more than a single sentence. Only the last reference here has anything to do with iMDsoft, but that isn't enough to sustain notability on its own. By the way, don't forget to sign your edits - it will stop SineBot putting "preceding unsigned comment" next to what you write. --Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
KUXL
Hello, It has been difficult just to get an email to someone. I had the pleasure of working for KUXL from 1977-1985 and 1988-89, including as its Program Director from 1981-1985 (when I took the station to 24/7 operation and a Contemporary Christian Music lean, and Operations Manager from 1988-89, when it was sold by Universal Broadcasting. How do I update, add, and occasionally correct her story? 1570 was a unique and special radio station. She was, as General Manager John McCooley called her, "the voice of the voiceless." Rob Marshall Hackett, former PD/OM, KUXL [details removed] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.162.59.31 (talk) 02:28, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- If you have reliable sources to support the changes or additions that you wish to make, please discuss them at Talk:KYCR. Note, though, that personal knowledge and reminiscences alone are not reliable sources.--ukexpat (talk) 14:54, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
Robert-Watson Watt
Robert Watson-Watt (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hello:
I desperately need someone's help due to being legally blind. I am trying to view the Robert-Watson Watt article on World War 2. He was from Brechin Angus Scotland, this is wear my Grandfather lived also when he was called up in World War 2. This site is amazing however I have difficulty as I have to use a merlinn and enlarge font in order to view. Can someone help me please. My Grandfather was an engineer/mechanic. He is shown as an Instructor under the RAF in an Almanac in his nometown Brechin Library. I believe the RAF utilized his skilled background I have been told he was responsible for the barrage balloon and was stationed in Blackpool. In research I have found there was 2 training camps there. This is site is very interesting however to much for me. Can someone help me please? I am sure his name could be found on this site. Look forward to hearing from someone. I have a good friend typing this for me.
All the best Gail Watson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.237.59.138 (talk) 19:19, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- Are you just trying to find the article? Follow this link Robert Watson-Watt. The article does not mention barrage balloons. SpinningSpark 23:06, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
This article is on GERMAN Wikipedia only - can it be translated and put onto ENGLISH Wikipedia?
2.24.34.56 (talk) 19:25, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
- To request an article translation you should go to Wikipedia:Translation and follow the instructions there. SpinningSpark 23:01, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Ed Arnold
There are TWO Ed Arnolds, BOTH in radio. on opposite sides of the country. Needless to say, I am the other and I would like to know how to share this page.
The directions on the page, if looking for a person of the same name, is to check Edward Arnold. That is not my name!
What can we do?
Thanks!
71.16.31.66 (talk) 16:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)Ed Arnold
www.iamedarnold.com