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I Heard It Through The Grapevine / Da Da Da
The two singles "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" by Marvin Gaye and "Da Da Da" by Trio are missing. "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" has sold over seven million copies worldwide (source: wikipedia article "I'll Be There, the Jackson 5 song", passage "release and reaction"). "Da Da Da" by Trio has sold 13 million copies worldwide (source: wikipedia article "Da Da Da"). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.122.141.163 (talk) 23:44, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
Mariah Carey
Without you has sold more than 9 million copies, Fantasy has sold more than 7 and one sweet day has sold more than 6.5. I saw that in a page what show the best selling singles worldwide. http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm
(united world chart)
Note: the chart mentioned is not based on copies but points.
I gotta feeling
I gotta feeling has sold more than 13 million copies worldwide not 7 million. http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm
(united world chart)
Madonna - Hung Up
Hung up is one of madonna best selling tracks ever selling at least five million copies. I think it should be added as well
Me Against the Music
Does it seem odd that the single "Me Against the Music" is listed twice, once with Madonna's name, and once with Britney Spears? And they are both associated with different numbers...
White Christmas figure...
It's a guess. 50 million copies was being touted in the 1980s and is too much of a round number to be genuine. Certainly by 2010 several million more ought to have been added to that figure. Does any one know any more up to date figures, or could we work out an appropriate caveat for the article in terms of precision? DavidFarmbrough 10:50 a.m. UST 2nd December 2010.
WHITNEY's HOUSTON I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU is the best selling single by a female artist
I Will Always Love You is the best selling single by a female artist,not Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go On ! You put 15 million for My Heart Will Go On and 12 million for I will Always Love You ! Is this a mistake ?
Party Rock ANTHEM, Just Dance, My Humps
Fist of all sorry for my English: it is terrible, but I'm italian...
I think that Party Rock's sales should be updated to 10 million (at least), because it sold 9.7 million just in 2011, when it wasn't still certified 6x Platinum by the RIAA. I've no sources I consider reliable (except for the new RIAA certification), but on yahoo it is said that it has reached even the 7 million mark in the USA, so 10 million worldwide could be resoneable.
About Just Dance by Lady Gaga, IFPI stated that its sales stood up to 7.7 million at the end of 2009, but Nielsen Soundscan sources report that it has reached 6.6 million in the USA, gaining 0.4-0.5 million in this country after 2009. I think Just Dance's sales should be rounded to 8 million; furthermore sales' certifications of this single around the world justify what I've said (if sources on Wikipedia page of Just Dance are correct).
On the contrary, I should not update Telephone's sales: in some cases IFPI's data seem to be oddish to me, 'cause the don't tally with certified sales in each countries. I'm talking about Telephone, but also "The Time: Dirty Bit", "Born this way" and many others. Aniway, IFPI is maybe the greatest source in the music selling world and I don't want to say anything more about it.
Finally My Humps by Black Eyed Peas: 8 million copies sold??? I think it's too much; I can accept that a song like Crazy in Love can have sold 8 million, since it was a success worldwide. But not My Humps: it's certified only 2x Platinum by RIAA and it achieved very moderate success in the rest of the world. I would be very careful with sources from http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/yradish/41097/biggest-selling-singles-since-the-year-2000/ ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.45.40.66 (talk) 22:57, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
- Regarding "Party Rock Anthem" and "Just Dance", you are correct, those sales figures are outdated as IFPI only count sales up to each November. As you can see here, those are not the only songs with outdated sales.
- As you may have already seen with "Poker Face", "Rolling in the Deep" and "We Are Young" before and after, we do take care to update sales.
- However, it is a slow process, as to date only Hahc21, Mcdonalds and myself have bothered to research global single sales country by country. For some of the bigger hits, such as "Poker Face" it can get to be quite complicated.
- So bear with us, we will eventually update them all.
- Lastly, I will not (if anyone asks, I can justify this with WP:IAR) accept "rounding" as you suggest. The best option is to (in my opinion) only use IFPI (best source for world sales), Yahoo! Music, Billboard and Music Week (for detailed US and UK sales) and certification databases (like RIAA, BPI, BVMI, SNEP, ARIA, CRIA, etc.)
- Regarding "My Humps", I agree, those sales seem quite exaggerated. Singles from the early to mid-2000's are always troublesome. Since that particular Yahoo! source is special, let's wait for consensus before removing the single.--Mαuri’96 “...over the Borderline” 10:20, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
PARTY ROCK ANTHEM etc.
Here I am again; I looked for total certified sales of Party Rock Anthem and this is what I found
Arustralia 11xPlatinum 770.000 http://www.aria.com.au/pages/httpwww.aria.com.aupagesSINGLEaccreds2012.htm
Canada 6xPlatinum 480.000 http://www.musiccanada.com/GPSearchResult.aspx?st=&ica=False&sa=LMFAO&sl=&smt=0&sat=-1&ssb=Artist
Denmark platinum 30.000 http://ifpi.dk/?q=content/lmfao-party-rock-anthem-umg-2
France platinum 250.000 http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-259165-DISQUES-D-OR.html?year=&type=9
Germany platinum 300.000 http://www.musikindustrie.de/no_cache/gold_platin_datenbank/#topSearch
Italy multiplatinum 60.000 http://www.fimi.it/temp/cert_GFK_download_242012.pdf
Japan gold 100.000 http://www.tokyohive.com/2012/04/riaj-reveals-digital-certifications-for-march-2012/ (directly from RIAJ)
Spain gold 20.000 http://promusicae.es/files/listasanuales/canciones/Top%2050%20CANCIONES%20ANUAL%202011.pdf
Switzerland 3xplatinum 90.000 http://www.swisscharts.com/search_certifications.asp?search=LMFAO+feat.+Lauren+Bennett+%26+GoonRock+Party+Rock+Anthem
United States 7xplatinum 7.000.000 http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?artist=%22Party+Rock+Anthem%22
United Kingdom 1.007.622 http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/singles-chart-analysis-good-feeling-on-brink-of-400k-sales/047734
The total is 9.947.622; I didn't manage to find certification for sales in New Zealand, Belgium or Netherland, but I suppose I am not as good as you at using Internet, so you will be able to find them, maybe. The total should be more than 10 millions. As soon as possible I'll try to do the same with Just Dance, but it is much more difficult than what I thought... You have done and you are still doing a great work.
I have a question: is it possible to look for total sales directly on IFPI? Because I remember someone wroting in this Talk that Telephone's sales should be updated to 8.5 million since USA's sales have reached the 3 million mark and they were just 2 million when IFPI stated that total world's sales were 7.4 million. But if we sum up every single country's certified sales, we hardly reach 5 million. Thus it's not possible updating sales in this way. However, it is quite obvious that sales have increased (at least in USA), but we can do nothing in the end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.162.3.16 (talk) 13:38, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Here sales of Just Dance; I am looking for English language certifications about sales in Japan, but for the moment I have this.
Hope it could help (many links are the same or similar to the ones on wikipedia page about Just Dance).
USA 6.600.000 http://www.billboard.com/#/news/ask-billboard-was-lady-gaga-s-born-this-1007298762.story
Australia 3x platinum 210.000 http://www.aria.com.au/pages/httpwww.aria.com.aupageshttpwww.aria.com.aupageshttpwww.aria.com.aupagesARIACharts-Accr.htm
Belgium gold 10.000 http://www.ultratop.be/en/certifications.asp?year=2010
Canada 6platinum 480.000 http://www.musiccanada.com/GPSearchResult.aspx?st=just%20dance&ica=False&sa=&sl=&smt=0&sat=-1&ssb=Artist
Denmark 2platinum 60.000 http://www.ifpi.dk/?q=content/guld-og-platin-i-august
Germany gold 150.000 http://www.musikindustrie.de/no_cache/gold_platin_datenbank/#topSearch
Japan gold (singles) + gold (mastertone) 500.000 http://www.riaj.or.jp/data/others/chart/w100322.html http://www.riaj.or.jp/data/others/chart/w110220.html
New Zealand platinum 15.000 http://www.rianz.org.nz/rianz/chart.asp
Spain platinum 40.000 http://promusicae.es/files/listasanuales/canciones/Top%2050%20Canciones%20Anual%202009.pdf
Sweden platinum 20.000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Singles_certified_platinum_by_the_International_Federation_of_the_Phonographic_Industry_of_Sweden
Switzerland 2 platinum 40.000 http://swisscharts.com/awards.asp?year=2009
UK 700.000 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8240696.stm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.162.3.16 (talk) 13:22, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
Total sales based on this certifications are 8.825 million. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.162.3.16 (talk) 13:34, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
I considered Gold certification by RIAJ as shipment of 250.000 copies, but it is for 100.000 copies. Therefore total sales for Just Dance are 8.525 million, not 8.825 million. A little mistake... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.252.4.137 (talk) 21:05, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
PARTY ROCK ANTHEM
Other way to increase Party Rock's sales: I have searched for numbers in Paul Grein's blog on Yahoo Music and here (http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/week-ending-dec-25-2011-songs-bringing-sexy-235057906.html) you can see that Party Rock sold about 5 million copies in 2011 (after IFPI gave certification for 2011 music sales, 9.7 million for party rock). Here (http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/week-ending-july-1-2012-songs-jepsen-does-035518750.html) you can see that Party Rock sales in july broke the 7 million wall. I chose to check information in the same site and by the same blogger; I think he has used the same sources, thus sales should be comparable. If you accept this way of updating sales, Party rock is now at 11.7 million (9.7 million in 2011 IFPI report + 2 million sales in USA in 2012). I found your answer about updating Telephone's sales in the same way and I provided to give sources. I hope they are reliable, but I remember that data on Billboard were not so different.
Maybe I will try to look for Just Dance sales in the same way. Also Umbrella (by Rihanna) sales could be increased because billboard says that sales in USA are more than 4.000.000 and in 2007 (when IFPI certified 6.6 million sales) they were not so high. They were more than 3 million, but I'm sure not more than 3.5 million. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.162.3.16 (talk) 11:06, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
PARTY ROCK ANTHEM, JUST DANCE, UMBRELLA
Thanks for updating Party Rock Anthem sales. What do you think about sources for updating Just Dance...?
I found also information about Umbrella, by Rihanna. Here (http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20080103006104/en/CORRECTING-REPLACING-2007-U.S.-Music-Purchases-Exceed) you can see Nielsen Soundscan sales were 2.359.000 in 2007 music report. Here (http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/week-ending-aug-19-2012-songs-swift-set-203143800.html) you can see that sales (again by Nielsen Soundscan9 are now 4.089.000.
The difference is 1.730.000 only for USA sales; I am sure also UK sales have increased, but it is much more difficult to demonstrate. Do you think is it possible to increase 6.6 million sales (by IFPI 2008 report) up to 8.33 million (6.6 + 1.73)?
About "We Found Love" sales, for USA sales RIAA certification is used, but in Yahoo music (http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/week-ending-aug-19-2012-songs-swift-set-203143800.html) they are now at 4.601.000. Thus sales could be increased to 6.90 million (6.30 + (4.60 - 4.00)). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.51.4.123 (talk) 16:46, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I'll eventually update the other songs, but right now I'm a bit busy with the IB Diploma so progress will be slow.--Mαuri’96 “...over the Borderline” 05:26, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
Digital singles seperate?
Doesn't make much sense to seperate them. Every song is now available to purchase digitally, no matter how old they are, and a lot of sales is attributed to digital sales. Even when there wasn't any digital sales, you could say that during those times a lot more people were in shops buying CD's then there are now. --86.145.54.118 (talk) 23:59, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
Just Dance, Party Rock Anthem
Good thing the IB Diploma. I created an account; I think it's the right moment, since this is my third talk.
What do you think about this source? http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=141954
It would be very useful: the list is the same as the one revealed on Music Week (http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-150-biggest-selling-singles-of-the-21st-century-revealed-1382/) and sales should be based on sales reported in Music week. Furthermore, many sales data match with data I found in Music Week (for example "Someone like you" sales).
Here (http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=141954) Just Dance sales are 909.000, while the previous source I used reported 700.000 (it was an older source, thus increased sales could be justified). New total sales would be 8.525.000 + (909.000-700.000) = 8.73m.
For Party Rock total sales I found also 246.420 copies sold in 2011 and 48.254 in 2012 in Gaon chart: http://gaonchart.co.kr/main/section/online/download/list.gaon You have to click in "연간" for annual chart (second round space next to the box with the year), then select in the year box "2012" and in the next box "2012 08" for total 2012 sales up tu august. For total 2011 sales select "2011 12" instead. The most convenient thing is waiting fo the end of 2012 and adding all the sales together.
Don't worry if you are busy, there is no deed to hurry. I have written it down also not to forget it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Argo90 (talk • contribs) 12:52, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
David Guetta Sexy Bitch
Sexy Bitch by David Guetta, another song with more than 5 million sales:
usa 3.354.000 http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/week-ending-sept-16-2012-songs-mindless-fun-022236621.html
canada 40.000 http://www.musiccanada.com/GPSearchResult.aspx?st=sexy%20bitch&ica=False&sa=&sl=&smt=0&sat=-1&ssb=Artist
australia 350.000 http://www.aria.com.au/pages/httpwww.aria.com.aupageshttpwww.aria.com.auSINGLEaccreds2011.htm
france 400.000 http://www.snepmusique.com/fr/pag-259165-CERTIFICATIONS.html?year=&type=10
germany 300.000 http://www.musikindustrie.de/no_cache/gold_platin_datenbank/#topSearch
uk 610.000 http://www.mtv.co.uk/music/charts/official-uk-countdowns/akon-official-top-20
austria 30.000 http://www.ifpi.at/?section=goldplatin (search for "sexy bitch")
Total sales are 5.084.000 and I still have to look for Spain, Switzerland, Italy and other european countries sales. However I am not completely sure about Mtv source; I think it is reliable, but I would like to know your opinion.
David Guetta Sexy Bitch
Other certifications for Sexy Bitch: Uk 659.791 http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/the-wanted-back-on-top-of-uk-singles-chart/046239 Finland 6.735 http://www.ifpi.fi/tilastot/artistit/david+guetta Italy 30.000 http://www.fimi.it/temp/cert_Nielsen_week34.pdf Spain 40.000 http://www.promusicae.es/files/listasanuales/canciones/Top%2050%20Canciones%20Anual%20%28PUBLICAR%29%202010.pdf Switzerland 120.000 http://swisscharts.com/awards.asp?year=2011
For UK sales I found data in music week, which is better than Mtv.
Total sales: 659.791 (uk) + 6.735 (finland)+ 30.000 (italy) + 40.000 (spain) + 120.000 (switzerland) + 3.354.000 (usa) + 40.000 (canada) + 350.000 (australia)+ 400.000 (france)+ 300.000(germany) + 30.000 (austria)= 5.330.525
Lady Gaga
Paparazzi: has sold 3.3 million copies in the U.S., and the rest of the other munda has sold 2 million copies, it made more than 5.3 million copies sold, putting it in the list deveriais.
The Edge of Glory: has sold 2.8 million copies in the U.S., and more than 2.4 million in the rest of the world, that makes having a total sales of 5.2 million alrrededor the world.
Bad Romance: 9.7 million copies sold alrrededor the world in 2010, it now has over 11 million copies sold world alrrededor.
Telephone: Bad romance is like, sold 7.4 million copies world alrrededor in 2010, now has more than 8.6 million copies sold worldwide.