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October 3

a page deleted

Hi,

I am a new user here. Needed a little help.

A page under the title Tarana Raja Kapoor was deleted on 29 December 2007 by an admin who is no longer active. How can i get the complete information that why was it deleted as I want to write an article on the same title and dont want it to be deleted.

Also can a moderator or volunteer help me with my way further.

Sana.Murri (talk) 21:50, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Sana.Murri, one suggestion of a place to create your article is WP:AFC. There, your article won't be deleted right away, but it might be declined if it isn't ready yet. That gives you a chance to improve it, until it is ready.

Always remember that including good sources for every fact is the way forward - WP:42 and WP:REFB will help you with this. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:53, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Tarana Raja Kapoor was unsourced and only had a few lines of adoration, sounding like a fan in love. It started "Tarana Raja Kapoor is an extraordinary person, stunning anchor, RJ, a wonderful actress, and a voice-over artist." Just ignore it and try to write a real article at WP:AFC, satisfying Wikipedia:Notability (people). PrimeHunter (talk) 23:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Photo requirements

What do you do when you are an ordinary mortal and you cannot understand the licensing requirements? I quote from "Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion of a photo" ...

"F3. Improper license. Media licensed as "for non-commercial use only" (including non-commercial Creative Commons licenses), "no derivative use", "for Wikipedia use only" or "used with permission" may be deleted, unless they comply with the limited standards for the use of non-free content. Files licensed under versions of the GFDL prior to 1.3, without allowing for later versions, may be deleted."

Sheesh. All of the photos I put in an article four years ago were deleted. Can somebody translate the above? It seems like "for Wikipedia use only" and "used with permission" are exactly what *should be used in Wikipedia. This seems like Twilight Zone. Help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs) 00:53, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a goal of producing reusable content; so with limited exceptions Wikipedia accepts only content that permits reuse by anyone for anything, including commercial use and derivative works. —teb728 t c 01:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

(e/c) There is no way to make it truly simple if you want to understand it well, because the details of image use is simply not simple, but I think it might help for you to first understand what is the perfect type of image, rather than seeing a laundry list of the things that we don't want. What we want are images that are in the public domain (not copyright-protected at all), or if copyrighted, that bear a free copyright license that allow free reuse even for commercial purposes with very little restriction. This is what the WP:CC-By-SA license is. As stated at Wikipedia:Non-free content: "Wikipedia's goal is to be a free content encyclopedia, with free content defined as content that does not bear copyright restrictions on the right to redistribute, study, modify and improve, or otherwise use works for any purpose in any medium, even commercially." So breaking down this list of negatives from the speedy deletion criterion, we don't want images that are:

• "For non-commercial use only": because our standard is for material that can even be reused for commercial purposes, a very non-restrictive copyright license;
• "No derivative use": because making derivative use verboten is highly restrictive on reuse;
• "For Wikipedia use only": because this restricts our users from reuse (it means "you can only use it on Wikipedia"), and we are all about allowing people to take our content and reuse it;
• "Used with permission: rather similar to the last, this means its use here is specifically permitted, but that's all.

There is a policy we have that allows use of images that are copyrighted in a manner more restrictive than our licenses – even use of fully copyrighted images. It's called Fair Use and is a doctrine which "permits limited use of copyrighted material without acquiring permission from the rights holders." However, all instances of fair use is considered not ideal; we do allow it but only under very strict standards that a media file must meet. Those standards are set forth at Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. Turning to some specifics, File:Bott 2068761571.jpg, for example, was licensed under cc-by-nc-nd which does not allow commercial or derivative use, so it is incompatible with our license. It's possible some of the images that were deleted could meet our standards for fair use, but that a whole nother ball 'o wax; one must provide a fair use rationale for each use of the image and the use must meet the criteria I linked earlier. It is indeed a pain, it is frustrating, but it is necessary for us. The ridiculously widened reach of copyright of the modern age, so much expanded from its roots, is a big part of the problem. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to explain this. Very clear and accessible to a layman. I am going to post a new question directly related to speedy deletion, who is allowed to do this, and how to recover the old usage/copyright information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs) 16:42, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion for programmers - finding images

I was searching for an image and I tried the following terms in the search box...

• 488824530.jpg
• File:488824530.jpg
• File:Vol 488851659.jpg
• File:Ap cov 488824530.jpg
• Image:Bott 488824530.jpg

Could the programmers at Wikipedia make the search process a little more intuitive and forgiving?

Or has this image actually been deleted? In that case, wouldn't it be more helpful to tell the user? And more important, shouldn't old images be preserved (even if not used in an article) so that prior copyrights can be examined?

Last questions: where to put suggestions for Wikipedia programmers? Do they read this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs)

File:Ap cov 488824530.jpg was deleted because of a copyright violation. All the intuitive and forgiving programming in the world cannot find an image that does not exist on a website. BTW, you can search for a filename at http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en by entering the file name in the search field and specifying en.wikipedia.org in the domain field. As for "preserving" old images, that depends on why they may have been deleted. Images that have copyright restrictions and not licensed for use by Wikipedia cannot be kept for legal reasons. Cresix (talk) 01:28, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

And to answer your last question, see WP:VPT for adding suggestions for the Wikipedia programmers. Dismas|^(talk) 02:35, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Helpful response, thank you. Cresix, your answer goes to my point that the Wikipedia interface should return *something. You must have had a magical way of knowing that 488824530.jpg was deleted. How does a typical user know this? Wikipedia must store this information somewhere and it really should be reported to a searcher. I will post this issue to Village pump (technical). By the way, an advanced Google search for "488824530.jpg" in the Wikipedia domain returns no results. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs)

At Special:Log/delete you can see whether a specific page or file name has been deleted. Your talk page (linked on "My talk" at top of any page) has links to deletion logs for three deleted files including File:Ap cov 488824530.jpg. If you don't know the precise name then it can be harder to find deletions. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:45, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

To PrimeHunter, sorry, another hall of mirrors for me! I visited the Deletion log and could not find the file. I selected Deletion log from the pull down menu and entered "488824530" in the target and other fields. I got "No matching items in log." There must be thousands of records in that log - why no easy way to find a file? This is a replay of my original complaint that the Wilipedia search process is not intuitive.

Another issue is that it is not clear to an ordinary person why the file name sometimes uses a slug and sometimes uses a number. How does an ordinary person know which one to use? I guess I could go to WP:VPT (again) and make a suggestion about all this, but this is not fun any more. I am so far from what I set out to do, blah. 3dimen (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

The deletion log was already selected by my link. Enter File:Ap cov 488824530.jpg in the Target field to see [1]. The deletion log requires the precise name. It's not a search feature. You could have found the name in several ways, for example at User talk:3dimen (where you could just have clicked the red links to see the deletion log), or in the article version where you used the file: [2]. If you uploaded a deleted file then you can ask an administrator to find the file name in your deleted edits. Only administrators can see deleted edits (there are legal reasons for this). Or you could have tested each of the suggestions in your first post. File names are chosen by the uploader. It was you who uploaded it 5 May 2008 as "Ap cov 488824530.jpg". The upload form has a field for the target file name so it doesn't have to be the same name as the version on your own computer. See Wikipedia:File names if you want to upload other files. I don't know exactly what the upload form said in 2008 but the current Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard says:

Please provide a clear, descriptive name by which your file will be known on Wikipedia. This name must be unique across the whole of Wikipedia, so please make it informative and easy to recognize. It's no problem to use a fairly long name. It may also include spaces, commas and most other punctuation marks. Please also note that file names are case sensitive (with the exception of the first letter). Good: "City of London, skyline from London City Hall, Oct 2008.jpg". Bad: "Skyline.jpg", "DSC0001234.jpg".

PrimeHunter (talk) 23:27, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I forgot non-admins can also see the name of deleted files uploaded by a user. Here are two ways to get to Special:Log/3dimen: 1) Enter 3dimen in the Performer field at Special:Log. 2) Click "logs" at top of Special:Contributions/3dimen (you get there on "My contributions" at top of any page). You can select "Upload log" if the user has many logs and you only want to see the uploads. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:49, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

* Point taken that the names of my photos were not useful. It was four years ago and I thought I had assigned proper names but apparently I hadn't.

* All of the above discussion results in very limited information: basically who deleted the file and why. This is not what I am ultimately looking for. In my original post, I tried to communicate that I want to look at the prior copyrights (meaning the original licensing information that I provided way back then). I feel my hands are tied because this information is apparently not available to me without going to an administrator. I was hoping the Deletion log would provide this but apparently not.

* To be precise, clicking the red link on my user page takes me not to the deletion log, but to a Creating file page, which indicates the page once existed but has been deleted. No links to the original File: page.

* Again, to be precise, looking at a previous version of the article and clicking on the file name only gives me a File Upload Wizard. Again, no links to prior licensing information.

* I must stand by my claim that this is not user friendly. If Wikipedia feels they need to delete an image, OK, but just delete the jpg itself and keep the rest of the File: page that was associated with it. The only price Wikipedia is going to pay is that a unique file name is used up - no big deal. Also make sure the main search box and the Deletion log "search box" point to this page.

3dimen (talk) 02:13, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

File pages are editable wiki pages with page histories. Licensing information can be mixed with other things and any user can edit the pages. There have been suggestions to make deleted Wikipedia pages visible but I have never heard it about file pages before. See Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Deleted pages should be visible. If it hasn't been requested then there is probably a low demand, and it would cause several problems and complications. I'm an administrator. Below is the content you placed on the three file pages. They were all nominated for deletion with {{db-noncom}} (preview it on any file page to see what it displays there). PrimeHunter (talk) 12:10, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

File:Ap cov 488824530.jpg:

Summary

American Photographer cover photo by Douglas Hopkins. Appears on www.flickr.com/photos/dohop/488824530.

Licensing

File:Vol 488851659.jpg:

Summary

Photo of volcanic eruption by Douglas Hopkins. Used for cover of Harvard magazine. Appears at www.flickr.com/photos/dohop/914692.

Licensing

File:Bott 2068761571.jpg:

Summary

Bottle of fragrance from Douglas Hopkins and Company. Appears at www.flickr.com/photos/dohop/2068761571.

Licensing

Wow, PrimeHunter, thank you. This will be very helpful in getting the photographer to write a permission statement and get the pictures reinstated on the article. I don't mean to come across as a complainer, but there is a problem with the system here. It took three days to get this information. I hope I can get an advocate among the admins to understand and vouch for my idea. IMHO, it is not necessary to remove the File: page when an image is deleted. It seems to me that just the jpg can be replaced with an informational message, so the image can no longer be used. Then all the other information, such as the original license and any templates and the description and the source URL can remain in tact. This system would reduce the load on you admins, as you wouldn't have to dig this up every time, right? I'm not a programmer, but in my mind it doesn't seen that difficult, so I will probably keep banging the drum on this. Best... 3dimen (talk) 17:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

You could have gotten the deleted license info right away by asking for it. Your original post only said among other things "shouldn't old images be preserved (even if not used in an article) so that prior copyrights can be examined?". That sounded like a policy discussion to me and not a request. It's very rare for admins to be asked for deleted license info. If file pages were kept then there would be more work in checking whether something should be deleted for legal reasons, monitoring pages for vandalism and other problems, handling when people want to upload a new file with the same name, and other details. Many files are deleted from the English Wikipedia because they are moved to Wikimedia Commons with the same name and still displayed with the same url at the English Wikipedia. For example File:The Bluebook 18th ed Cover.gif which now displays commons:File:The Bluebook 18th ed Cover.gif. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, thanks for your comments.

* "You could have gotten the deleted license info right away by asking for it." Please try to see it from the user's point of view. That's a little like saying "you could have opened the safe if you knew the combination". It's the first time I have ever had to ask a human for *any content on Wikipedia. In fact it seems to run contrary to the philosophy of a wiki, which is "please give me a good search engine and let me find it myself".

* "That sounded like a policy discussion" You're right, and it really still is. In the beginning it was really frustrating to use all the search engine tricks I knew and still not know if the copyright information had been deleted or if it was still there somewhere and the search engine was not cooperating. As an admin, you already know the answer to this, but I didn't.

* "It's very rare for admins to be asked for deleted license info." All I can say is, I'm surprised. If images are taken down for incorrect licensing, I would think that's the first thing the contributor would want to see. Also, please see bullet 1, relating to the unfamiliarity of asking admins for this kind of stuff.

So you can see that keeping the image File: is in keeping with this user's perception of what a wiki should be. Not to drag this out any more. I really do respect the good work you guys do here and appreciate all the help I have gotten. 3dimen (talk) 03:27, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

new editor needs guidance

This new editor: User talk:Anniming seems to need some friendly guidance. They are 3 for 3 on edits made and reverted.

I know there used to be templates for this sort of thing. Please will someone who is current on this add something suitable. Wanderer57 (talk) 02:30, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 07:47, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Confermation about teacher Name Verra Seekra

Sir

Please let me conferm that mentioned in subject Teacher is still in service to search this respected teacher We are mentioning some Point

1.got tranning in PITAC Lahore Pakistan In Tool engineering Technique

2 engaged In Mechinical Department

From Altaf Mahmood (Manager Design PITAC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.154.102 (talk) 07:59, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I think you may be lost. This website is Wikipedia, an online encyclopaedia, and this page is for asking and answering questions about how to use it. It sounds like you're trying to contact a company to give a job reference for somebody. You won't reach them through this page, I'm afraid. - Karenjc 08:43, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Random information visible on article page

Hi,

I added an image to this page: Knut Vollebæk, but the text: [[file: |300px|alt=]] is visible under the image. Can anyone help me get rid of this?--MP at HCNM (talk) 08:40, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done here. The infobox only requires the bare filename of the image, with no extra formatting. - Karenjc 08:50, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, also for the reason. Looks great.--MP at HCNM (talk) 09:49, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Editing of information

Im the head of one of the depertments at JSC MAdneui. Our company info is incorrect and would like to edit it. Also company has changed name so what do I need to make the corrections? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.83.137.69 (talk) 11:12, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Please mention on the talk page of the article the correction you would like to make along with sources that support your information. --Anbu121 (talk me) 11:21, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I have moved the page to JSC RMG Copper to reflect the name change, as confirmed by the company's website.--ukexpat (talk) 13:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

ARTICLES IN DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AND TRANSLATION

Is an article written in a specific language on Wikipedia always subject to be translated in an other one or the entire process for notability needs to be repeated? I thought it needs only a correct translation to publish from a language to an other until I've read that translator has to submit every article already published in a language to the community of the other language as a "stub"

This means that what is notable in a country can be not notable in another, isn't? And that knowledge changes from place to place, is not all the same?

Thanks in advance for any answers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.7.220.42 (talk) 11:58, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Each Wikipedia may have its own guidelines and policies regarding notability, so the presence of an article on one can not be taken as an assurance that it is acceptable elsewhere. We can only provide help with English-language Wikipedia issues here though - if you wish to add an article to another Wikipedia, you will have to discuss any problems there. AndyTheGrump (talk)

Well, all Wikipedias are basically global. What you need to worry about is the notability guidelines at that specific Wikipedia, the most basic of which can be found in the interwiki/language links of WP:N. - Purplewowies (talk) 13:06, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Any idea for the usage of "stub" to propose a translation from an other language into English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.59.204.8 (talk) 00:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

And what about sources in different languages? How could they has been taken as regular sources if no one can understand the original meaning of it? At the same time, not less important if the most part of community can not understand because written in other languages than English! Anyway, this could be the reason why different wiki-language platforms need to repeat the entire process for notability to verify the meaning of the sources and evaluate their degree of consistencies to be translated.. Anyone can tell me if is there any translator's community that I can talk to?

Thank you very much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.3.60.92 (talk) 11:29, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Display the archives

I don't know the proper procedure to display the archives on a talk page.

The page is Wikipedia talk:Copyright violations

The archive is at: Wikipedia talk:Copyright violations/Archive 1--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:51, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done I added an archives box. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 15:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and now I know how to do it.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Question re Dominican Republic

Dominican Republic is a separate country than Dominica both located in the southern Caribbean. Different countries Dominica (The Commonwealth of Dominica) is not The Dominican Republic...Your site redirects Dominica to Dominican Republic is in the "same" country.

Please repair! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.191.83.69 (talk) 16:01, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

The article Dominica has a hat note:

Not to be confused with the Dominican Republic.

Where did you see the error?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 16:06, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Factual errors on United States presidential election, 1864

I do not the right numbers so I cannot edit the page to make it sensible. A section of the page is labeled "Results by State".

Here are some mistakes.

The leftmost column says Minnesota gets 4 electoral votes. The inner column credits Lincoln with 9 votes

Ignoring that mistake there are still two sums wrongs based on the listed numbers:

The sum of the numbers reported for the first column is wrong. Given the numbers the tally should be 239.

The tally of the electoral votes as given in the Lincoln column is not 221 but 218. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpcohoon (talk • contribs) 16:45, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Ruslik_Zero 17:11, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Questions on speedy deletion

Four years ago I wrote an article on a photographer whose work appeared on the covers of many fashion magazines. I went to a lot of effort to make sure the images met all guidelines. In April the images were removed by Speedy Deletion. Here are my questions...

1) Is it true that only an administrator can perform a speedy deletion and why would it take so long for this to happen?

(Specifically is Nyttend an administrator and how do I determine this? If someone does a speedy deletion, you can understand that I would like to be assured that this person really understands the complex criteria, such as F9 etc.)

2) Now that the images have been deleted, how do I go back and review what the original usage was, so that I can see how it was in violation of F9? These photos were provided and approved by the photographer. I still have copies of the images, but does Wikipedia still have the original copyright information that I provided, and where can I find it? If Wikipedia deletes this information, for heavens sake... why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs) 16:52, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

1) Yes, only people with admin rights can speedy delete files. This can occur at any time; there's no time limit for noticing a problem with a file that brings it under the speedy deletion criteria. Yes, Nyttend is an admin. You can check this easily on their userpage at User:Nyttend, which has an admin userbox with a "verify" link to click.

2) Your next step should be to try asking the deleting admin, ie Nyttend, by leaving a question at User talk:Nyttend. They will have access to details about the deleted files, and should be able to explain how the licences failed to satisfy Wikipedia's requirements (and what, if anything, you might be able to do to rectify the problem). - Karenjc 17:12, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

They were deleted because there were licensed as CC-BY-NC-ND, which is not an appropriate license for Wikipedia. Only CC-BY-SA or a less restrictive license is allowed. Ruslik_Zero 17:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Karenjc and Ruslik - will follow up with Nyttend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3dimen (talk • contribs) 17:27, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

In what I assume is just a coincidence, a prospective admin is being asked right now how they would handle a CC-BY-ND license.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 20:01, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

About template

Resolved

 – --ukexpat (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

A40 road (London)

I am struggling to add this to my about template which reads thus: This article is about the A40 in London For the road outside London, see the main A40 road article. For other uses, see A40 road (London) (disambiguation).

I don't want A40 road (London)... which of course appears as a redlink ... but A40 as the disambiguation.

My formatting is this: {{about|the '''A40''' in [[London]]. For the road outside London, see the main [[A40 road (Great Britain)|A40 road]] article}}

From where does the redlink come from? I can't understand how to add what I want to this template.

Cheers! -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 16:55, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Postscript

The A40 road article has this ( i.e. not a template):

For other uses, see A40 (disambiguation), for details of the A40 in London, see A40 road (London).

-- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 17:04, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

How about {{about|the A40 in [[London]]|the road outside London|A40 road (Great Britain)|other uses|A40 (disambiguation)}} which renders as:

This page is about the A40 in London. For the road outside London, see A40 road (Great Britain). For other uses, see A40 (disambiguation).

or {{about|the A40 in [[London]]|the road outside London|A40 road (Great Britain)|other uses|A40}}

This page is about the A40 in London. For the road outside London, see A40 road (Great Britain). For other uses, see A40.

to avoid the redirect.--ukexpat (talk) 17:13, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Gosh! That was quick. Thank you for sterling service. Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones/GG-J's Talk 17:30, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

No problem, happy to help.--ukexpat (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Amado Crowley

I need someone to check if this article is suitable to be added to the exisiting Wikipedia page on Amado Crowley. I have tried four times to add the data but it keeps getting deleted. What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xentophace (talk • contribs) 18:10, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

You need to read what you were told in the reply to your previous question at #Adding information to an article above. Read the tutorial, and in particular, follow the link to WP:Referencing for beginners. If you don't yet understand the detail of how to edit, put your suggestions in the talk page for the article, and let other editors consider it. I have deleted the lengthy details from below, because that detail doesn't belong here. David Biddulph (talk) 18:21, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Xeno, you keep pasting this content into the article, but have never provided a shred of evidence that the person you write about had anything whatsoever to do with the man who called himself "Amado Crowley". --Orange Mike | Talk 18:24, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Combining or cross-referencing categories

I recall having read about a tool that allows me to combine two or more Wikipedia categories. For example if I want to find all articles categorized as women novelists + people from Winchester + deaths from tuberculosis, how do I proceed? I can't find the tool. Any help is appreciated, and thank you in advance. ---Sluzzelin talk 18:54, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

See WP:CATSCAN.--ukexpat (talk) 19:38, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! ---Sluzzelin talk 00:35, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Question about my User talk page

I was viewing a Wikipedia page and I got a message that "userx" had posted something on my User talk page.

1) How did he send me that message, or does it happen automatically when someone posts to your talk page?

2) How do I let him know that I answered his post, or is there a way to do that? 3dimen (talk) 22:50, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Please Help:Using talk pages.Moxy (talk) 22:53, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

That message automatically is displayed by Wikipedia when a new message has been posted to your talk page.

–– Anonymouse321 (talk) 23:24, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

To tell someone that you've left them a message somewhere other than on their own talk page, you can use the {{talkback}} template. Go to their talk page and enter the code {{talkback|XXXX}}, with XXXX being the page where the message has been left. So in the case you cite, the code would be {{talkback|User talk:3dimen}}. - Karenjc 09:43, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the clarifications, especially about Talkback. Just tried it and it looks useful. 3dimen (talk) 05:30, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Trouble setting up an account

On the new accounts page, I entered my proposed username, password, e-mail address, and that horrible "captcha" word. After entering, it comes back with some sort of message about not being able to create the account. I have tried this several times and each time I get a different error message. The last error was "Login error The user account was not created, as we could not confirm its source. Ensure you have cookies enabled, reload this page and try again." After that I got: "Login error Username entered already in use. Please choose a different name."

Is there an easier way to determine whether or not a username has been taken already other than typing in all of the information over and over until it is approved?

Your login page states "Registering a free account takes only a few seconds and has many benefits." This is not true at all.

Frustrated, Jim B — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.28.160.181 (talk) 23:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

You can search for a user that already has that username. Just go to the search box on the top right of this page, type "User:<whatever username you want>" to see if it's already taken. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 23:26, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

O.K. Not obvious, but that worked. Thank you very much anonymouse321. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimbwiki (talk • contribs) 23:37, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Great! Welcome to Wikipedia! –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 23:39, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

BTW, I do agree it's not that obvious – I had the same issue :/ –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 23:42, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Special:ListUsers can also be used to see taken names with a given prefix. Special:Log/newusers shows accounts are created each minute. The account creation form has a link to Wikipedia:Request an account for users with problems. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I had never seen the Special:ListUsers page, thanks for showing me. It's hard to believe that there are that many usernames – and sadly most of them have no user page, no talk page, no contributions. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 00:28, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

{{NUMBEROFUSERS}} returns 48,526,173. This and other large numbers are at Special:Statistics. "Special pages" in the toolbox to the left has links to these pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Help

I write for jill dahne and the information that I copied was from her website which I wrote for her and many other people copied and pasted it for other purposes please reply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dina101 (talk • contribs) 23:56, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I see the text at http://jilldahne.com/about.html but there is a bigger problem than Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials: The text at Jill Dahne violates several key Wikipedia policies and qualifies for Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. And you have a strong conflict of interest. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. You shouldn't make an article about her. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:26, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

October 4

Redirect error

While trying to locate information on an organization I was assigned to, the 360th Tactical Electronics Warfare Squadron, although the search comes up with the proper name, it is redirected to the 970th Airborn Air Controller Squadron, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the 360th TEWS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.42.98 (talk) 00:13, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Since there is no "real" page called 360th Tactical Electronics Warfare Squadron, you can replace the redirect page with new content. However, I do not know why that redirect is there, considering it's relatively unrelated. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 00:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Please give links or exact titles in the future. There are no articles or redirects by any of the mentioned titles but after searching I found there is a redirect from 360th Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron to 970th Airborne Air Control Squadron. The Air Force Historical Research Agency says at http://www.afhra.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=11935: "Redesignated 360th Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron on 15 Mar 1967. Inactivated on 31 Jul 1973. Redesignated: 970th Airborne Warning and Control Squadron on 18 Sep 1985; 970th Airborne Air Control Squadron on 7 Mar 1996." This is the exact titles used in our articles and the source is considered reliable by Wikipedia. Do you have evidence that it is wrong? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:43, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

insert ½

When editing, in the "insert" beliw the edit box, you used to be able to pick "symbols" and get fractions such as "½". Now those fraction characters are not there. They are not under insert/math and logic either. Is there a way to get those characters back in the "insert"? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 05:06, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Try clicking on "Special characters" above the editing box and click "Symbols". Also, are you using any special editing tools (e.g. wikEd)? –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:16, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

That "above the edit box" thing isn't available to people using the standard (as opposed to advanced) toolbar. I used to have the dropdown, but I don't see it this edit. :-/ - Purplewowies (talk) 11:36, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

They were removed from edittools [3] after MediaWiki talk:Edittools#Proposal to remove fractions. Note that Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Fractions says: "The use of the few Unicode symbols available for fractions (such as ½) is discouraged entirely, for accessibility reasons among others." PrimeHunter (talk) 11:39, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't see "special characters". When I tried using the advanced editing on Firefox, I don't get the "Insert" stuff at all (see my message 2 or 3 days ago). Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 13:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

The main place I use "½" is in chess articles. In chess, a win gets 1 point and a draw gets ½ point. See Berlin_1881_chess_tournament#Masters Tournament, for example. The alternatives (0.5, 1/2, and the frac method) do not seem as good. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 13:47, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

KURU Family tree in page"Mahabharata" Indian epic

In the "Mahabharat" page of wikipedia there I'can help to expand the Kuru familiy tree by naming more of the ancestor of "Bhima" (one of Pandavas). But, on trying to do so, I am not getting edit option in that page. Please help. The details are:- Bhima got married to Hidimbaa (who was sister of Hidimb) and as result they have son named Ghatotkach, who married Mourwi Clearly know as Ahilavati. And their son named Barbareek (Popularly known as Khatu Shyam Ji). Another; Duryodhana's son's name was Laxman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.0.63.5 (talk) 06:53, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

That page is semi-protected – only auto-confirmed registered users (users with 4+ days and 10+ edits) can edit that page. I highly recommend that you create an account. Alternatively, you can request a change by putting {{edit semi-protected}} on the article's talk page for another user to do it for you. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 07:13, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

The other point to remember is verifiability; please ensure that you can support your changes by reference to published reliable sources. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

common phrases and proper names

I am getting copyright issues for common names and phrase.--Kruti338 (talk) 07:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kruti338 (talk • contribs) 07:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

If you are referring to the phrases identified by the bot in the notice at the top of your article Fleet Management Limited – Ship Management, then my personal feeling is that this may be over-sensitivity of the bot, and that the similarities between the LinkedIn page and your article aren't enough to justify accusations of copyright violation or plagiarism.

What is more worrying, however, is that if you are the Kruti Shah referred to on the LinkedIn page as the Media and Corporate communication Executive of Fleet Management Limited then you seem to have a clear conflict of interest and shouldn't be writing about that company. The article which you have written is written in a promotional manner, rather than encyclopaedic. None of the statements in the article are directly supported by citations to what you have referred to as "references". If you were to continue to edit Wikipedia on other topics you would need to read WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:09, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Having looked a bit further to see what independent reliable sources there may be to support the statements in the article, I see that although there may not be strong evidence of copyright violation or plagiarim from the LinkedIn page, there does seem to be such evidence from the company's web pages. Please read WP:Copyvio. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:37, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Article incorrectly indexed in categories

The biography Frieda Zames is incorrectly indexed by first name (under F) instead of surname (under Z) in the relevant categories, I can't see why it's happening or how to fix it. Roger (talk) 12:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Roger. I added {{DEFAULTSORT:Zames, Frieda}} just above the categories, specifying last name, then first name. The purpose of DEFAULTSORT is to specify in one shot how all categories will sort the title of a page. You can also specify the sorting of individual categories by piping them, e.g., [[Category:1932 births|Zames, Frieda]]. See more at WP:SORTKEY. Best regards.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:08, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Thanks Roger (talk) 12:21, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Bath Rugby - Past and Present

http://www.bathrugby.com/team/first-fifteen-squad

Carl Fearns is missing from your list. Left Sale on 30.6.11 and joined Bath on 1.7.11. Link above — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.222.157.174 (talk) 12:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Carl Fearns is listed at Bath Rugby and {{Bath Rugby squad}} but after some searching I see he was missing at Category:Bath Rugby players. I have added him there. Please link pages you refer to another time. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:15, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Navbox options not showing

Hi, I added a tennis tournament to the Template:1974 Commercial Union Assurance Grand Prix navbox but it doesn't show. The tournament is the 1974 Stockholm Open and should show under the 'Grand Prix circuit section' but I can only see 3 tournaments (Paris, Sydney, Tokyo) instead of the 6 that are in the list.--Wolbo (talk) 14:57, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

There was an extraneous "|Tokyo Outdoor]]" in the template. I've removed it. --ColinFine (talk) 15:07, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Thx!--Wolbo (talk) 17:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

iPhones and editing

I was told that I could use my iPhone to edit Wikipedia using safari yet I seem unable to do so. There are no edit buttons etc. I can only post here because there is a link at the top of the page for a new question. There does not sadly even seem to be a way to answer if there are any replies here. Am I doing something wrong or not doing something I should be doing to enable me to edit articles or take part in discussions on talk pages. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.254.208 (talk) 15:21, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't have an iPhone but maybe it displays a mobile Wikipedia version without edit links by default, and has a Desktop link at the bottom. You can also try to manually enter ?action=edit to the end of a page url. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

A big thank you. Yes, it was on default and it did have a desktop link. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.254.208 (talk) 16:32, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Printing out a single page from a long article.

15:21, 4 October 2012 (UTC)75.23.47.44 (talk)How do I go about printing a single page from a long article without printing the whole article? For example, I wish to print the the section of the article on Henry VIII that lists the wives and issue of the king (near the end of the article itself). Thank you. ----

Nor really a Wikipedia question. The answer would depend on your browser and printer. In general I would expect your browser to have a "Print Preview" option, which would allow you to see what pages your required material would be on, then the "Print" option would normally allow you to select a range of page numbers to print. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:30, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Or your browser may enable you to mark/select text (for example with mouse-dragging) before going to the print menu and click something to only print the selected text. Which browser is it? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Changing title to a page or moving the page

I asked about this earlier (see link below), and received helpful replies, including one which suggested that I post a notice of the intended move and wait for replies before moving the page:

[4]

I posted notices on the Talk page of the article itself, and on the Project Peerage page, but haven't had any replies, so I'd like to now go ahead with moving the page. However I'm still unclear as to whether that's the only option, i.e. is there any way to simply change the title of the page without actually moving it, or is the only solution to actually move the page if the existing title is incorrect?

One other question. In the earlier discussion it was said that there's a 'Move this page' button at the bottom of the page, but I've checked, and it doesn't seem to be there. NinaGreen (talk) 15:54, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Nina, it's really just a matter of semantics. Moving a page to a new title is equivalent to renaming the page. For me, the "Move this page" link is both in the set of links down the left hand side (in the "This page" section), and at the bottom just above the search box, but your case may be different if we use different skins. You can alternatively use this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:MovePage&target=John_Neville%2C_1st_Baron_Neville_de_Raby Rojomoke (talk) 16:20, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

The move option in the Vector skin appears when you move your mouse cursor over the small drop-down menu, shown here.

(e/c) Hi Nina. Yes, the move option is the only proper way to change the tile of a page, because the history of the page is extremely important for both copyright and other reasons, so it has to be moved to the new title. If you are using the (terrible) default skin (Vector), the move button is hidden but see the image I have posted. If you are fairly certain about the move target, you can be bold but if you want true input, you would make a formal requested move on the talk page. Your note on the talk page is good, but it only captures the attention of people who have the page on their watchlist, whereas a move request will be seen by all people who monitor our centralized page for requesting page moves. So you can modify that talk page note in the form as described below. A bot will take over from there listing the move at the centralized discussion.

== Requested move ==
{{subst:requested move|NewName}} Place here your reasons for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines and providing evidence in support where appropriate.--~~~~

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for your help. I've submitted a move request, and will also check to see which skin the page is using, now that I know about skins.NinaGreen (talk) 17:38, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Skin is not a page setting but a setting for user accounts at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. A user sees all pages in the same skin – unless you click or make a url containing useskin=... such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=chick. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:53, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I've now experimented with a few different skins in my user account.NinaGreen (talk) 16:10, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

inaccurate information posted about me...how can I correct it?

I am the world's fastest reader. There is inaccurate information posted under speed reading about me. I would like to add documentation that proves the inaccuracy.

I had a commercial years ago, and the FTC challenged my claims. People are writing about the challenge, but not the resolution making it appear I was dishonest. We provided the FTC with an efficacy study that proved my program works that they accepted. Your posting mentions they disputed my claims, but leaves out the fact they accepted our study.

I would like to add a link to this study, and state that the dispute was resolved after we submitted a scientific study that proved that our program works. Here is the link to the study: https://s3.amazonaws.com/efficacystudy/FullEfficacyReport.pdf

Our competition has posted this information to discredit me.

Can you please advise me on how to go about providing the efficacy study, and indicating how the dispute was settled using your rules?

Best, Howard Stephen Berg--The World's Fastest Reader — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrreader1 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Am I right in assuming that you are referring to our article Speed reading? It seems to refer to you - and at first glance the sources cited clearly look inappropriate. I think for now I'd best remove any reference to you at all while I look into this. As for the pdf you link, it is actually of no use to us, as we use published material which complies with our sourcing policy (WP:RS), and there is no way to verify a pdf anyway. If you can find anything (e.g. from the media) which confirms what you state, it may be possible to cite this as a source. I think it would be best to centralise any discussions on the article talk page Talk:Speed reading, and I suggest you reply there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:54, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

"Deleted contributions"

What are these (on edit count page)? I've been searching WP to find the answer and failed. I've also looked through the archive here. A couple of the posts I saw seemed to say they are just normal article contribs. which have got deleted (the person asking the question had 900). But I've only got three and I've certainly been reverted more than 3 times! Then I saw another post saying it's revdel'd contributions because of libel, outing, vandalism etc - which alarmed me that I've got more than zero. (And how did the guy with 900 get to that without a community ban?) Anyone explain and/or any admin tell me what my 3 were? DeCausa (talk) 18:06, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

They are edits that have been deleted, not reverted, i.e. they were edits to articles where the articles were later deleted. In your case one edit was to Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Opposition to the legalisation of abortion and another two were to User talk:67.212.88.26--Jac16888 ^Talk 18:10, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Ah, thanks very much. That's a relief. DeCausa (talk) 18:24, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Heh, when I was first becoming active in Wikipedia, and I saw something about deleted edits, I resolved that my goal would be to have zero, thinking that a deleted edit was an edit later reverted by someone else because it was a bad edit. Now I have hundreds, but I've learned that my original assumption, the same as yours wasn't quite right.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 18:35, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

As you apparently know, deleted edits can only be seen by administrators and don't appear on your user contributions page. By far the most common reason for deleted edits is that the page was later deleted, and that's the case for all your three deleted edits. But revdel'd edits are treated the same way. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:42, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

jAYBIRDS OF aMERICA

Derived from "NAKED AS A JAYBIRD", certain ladies have adopted the name while doing their housework. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.160.24 (talk) 19:33, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. Can we help you with anything regarding Wikipedia? --Jayron32 19:43, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Change to editing page

My editing interface has changed from what it previously was and I am no longer offered the option to insert wiki mark-up from beneath the edit summary or to click to sign my posts. How do I restore the original interface? Ankh.Morpork 23:22, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

It has worked for many to disable "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

October 5

About Editing

How can I use images from other websites? And a question how can a user become administrator? Where will I find the wiki codes? --pratyya (talk) 04:49, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I'll try to answer these as best as I can Pratyya. In order: 1) You probably can't use images from other websites at Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not normally accept images without a clear provenance, and usually requires that the image is either a) old enough to be in the public domain or b) uploaded directly by the person who created the image. There are exceptions, but they are very complicated. See Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria for information on that. 2) To become an administrator, a user has to pass an "election" of sorts at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. There are no "hard" rules as to what is required to become an admin beyond "very familiar with Wikipedia, all of its conventions and rules, etc." If you're too new to know how to become an administrator, you're also too new to be an administrator. Keep working at Wikipedia, make lots of good content contributions, and start to be involved in "behind the scenes" work as well, and you can apply when you are ready. 3) Help:Wiki markup covers the full spectrum of "wiki codes". Does all that help answer your questions? --Jayron32 04:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

1. You first have to save the file to your computer, then upload it using the upload file wizard. After you upload it, you can add [[File:<name of image>]] in the place of a page you want to add it to. However, there are very strict copyright standards here, so please read this page before beginning.
2. To become an administrator, you can request it from this page. You may want to read this before you request adminship.
3. Are you talking about wiki markup? If so, this page is a good place to get started.

If you have anymore specific questions, feel free to ask. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:01, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

John Ulrich Giesy

I added the death date at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ulrich_Giesy and noticed whilst editing that there is information on the EDIT page relating to Otis Kline. I didn't want to remove it, but I don't think it should be there. Collywolly (talk) 06:19, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

John Ulrich Giesy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

 Fixed It looks like the page creator began with a copy of the Otis Adelbert Kline article, but didn't update the Persondata and Categories at the bottom. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:58, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Where should I contest an award of featured article status?

This is what it says on the tin: an article was awarded featured article rank but patently does not deserve it. WP:FAC is run as a one man dominion: one guy calls the the shots and who cares if anyone has a problem? Well I do and one article in particular should be struck down. I admit I haven't been as current as some might expect (I work on oil rigs) but I don't see why that should affect the argument at all. Quantumsilverfish (talk) 06:44, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

De-listing featured articles is discussed at WP:FAR. Try starting a discussion on the article there. Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 06:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Detail of "salt" in urdu language

I need help. I was looking for details on the word "Salt" which has a lengthy detail in English language but very short in "Urdu" language. Can I likewise find a detailed information in Urdu. Regards. Muhammad Ahmad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.185.176.231 (talk) 07:00, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

You could read a mechanical Google translation of the English article here. Is that what you want? —teb728 t c 07:11, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

On This Day 13 October

I want to nominate an entry (Sister Nivedita's death) on October 13's On This Day. How can I do so? Shall I add it directly here: Wikipedia:Selected_anniversaries/October? --Tito Dutta ✉ 08:47, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

The principles for the choice of entries for "On This Day" are found at each day's talk page e.g. Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/October 13 with the FAQ. See in particular "A4: Births and deaths can only be used on centennials, etc. Exceptions can be made if they are directly related to assassinations, executions, natural disasters, civil accidents, genocide/extinction, or other historically significant topics that frequently appear on the Selected Anniversaries pages." On that approach, there is no point in you adding her death to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/October 13. She is already listed at October 13 and that's the only other place I was going to suggest. Bencherlite^Talk 08:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Ya, I just added it in October 13 article. --Tito Dutta ✉ 08:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Libel - Inaccurate entry on Inter City West Coast Entry

The page for Intercity West Coast states that I am one of the three officials suspended at the Department for Transport.

This is untrue and is libellous. Please delete this reference to me from the page.

InterCity West Coast.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.205.93.54 (talk • contribs)

The Telegraph has changed its wording, and the article now reflects that. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:16, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

How do I delete my account?

How do I delete my account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charles.criss (talk • contribs) 13:15, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Accounts cannot be deleted but you do have the right to vanish.--ukexpat (talk) 13:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

finding it very difficult to get the page I am creating right

I am finding it very difficult to get the page I am creating right. Wikipedia keeps threatening to delete my page even though there are sound references. I am finding it get direct help with creating my page. Is it possible to get 1 on 1 help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisamcgrillis (talk • contribs) 14:13, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Assuming the page in question is Lisa McGrillis, then you need to know that writing autobiographical articles (or contributing to articles about yourself) is very strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. The reasons for this are explained at Wikipedia:Autobiography. Gandalf61 (talk) 14:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey there ! I`m Redalert2fan and you might have seen me around "your" article, I do want to help you but you are not responding on your own talk page ((talk) and the article talk page (Talk:Lisa_McGrillis) and we asked some questions there. I recommend you to respond to the question to clarify some stuff. but as I said before I do want to help you. just ask what you want to know on my talk page. ((talk) Redalert2fan (talk) 09:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Porn found on the Morality article

The first link in references section of morality in the media article goes to porn. This is a attack on morality on the media as well as your organization. This is very low blow. Please correct this.

The link is has the name: About Morality in Media at MIM site and points to http://www.moralityinmedia.org/index.htm?aboutUs.htm

Morality in Media (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Thank You, Dan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.120.88.166 (talk) 14:40, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

The link goes to a page at the Morality in Media website properly. I suspect that the web page for the organization has been hacked again. (the Wikipedia article indicates that it was hacked back in February as well.) You may want to contact the organization to find out if they intend to fix that page, if so, then leave the ref, if not, it should either be designated as a dead link or possibly replaced with an old copy from archive.org.Naraht (talk) 14:55, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

They've been shut down entirely as of 8:47 CDT. ----Orange Mike | Talk 01:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Adding a disambiguation page for the name Anne Mortimer

I've been editing this page on Anne Mortimer, Countess of Cambridge:

Anne de Mortimer

On the Talk page of that article someone asked about distinguishing between this Anne Mortimer and the modern British artist and book illustrator, Anne Mortimer. Would this entail creating a stub article on the modern Anne Mortimer, and a disambiguation page? How does one go about creating a disambiguation page? Currently a search for Anne Mortimer automatically redirects to the article on Anne Mortimer, Countess of Cambridge. NinaGreen (talk) 16:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Apparently nobody has yet deemed the artist worth the effort of creating an article about. If you know enough, then create one and title it Anne Mortimer (artist); then put hatnotes on both articles to distinguish them from each other. We don't do disambiguation pages if there are only two notable persons of that name. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:34, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I've heard of the artist, and seen some of her work, but I don't know enough about her to create the page, so I'll leave that up to someone who knows more about her. Very useful to learn that there have to be more than two notable persons before a disambiguation page is created. NinaGreen (talk) 17:09, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a fairly obscure rule (unless you work a lot with dabs). It's also contradictory to the etymology of the word disambiguate; but then, I know better than to commit the etymological fallacy! --Orange Mike | Talk 17:28, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

endless effort to delete

After reading wike reply, i'm not a child and i'm aware we can't have a page for everyone in the world. yes that's right, i'm not stupid. But when wiki list Kasland on other pages. If he was on Souljaboy's tour ,as wiki shows, then goes on to sell on itunes. And listed on 5 other pages including record release date pages. I'm concerned by the statement from editor ANBU121.. "Its true that Wikipedia should ideally be free flow of information. But, accuracy of the information is equally important". I wiki does not consider itself accurate with information it uses on other pages I ask "who at wiki is qualified to edit or judge the creditablity of anyone". This is not an agruement but a valid questioning of the entire wiki network we the puplic support and believe in. Casperjo22 (talk) 02:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia cannot source to itself. We're an encyclopedia, a tertiary source. Some people here are experts on subjects; many are not. We use reliable sources to create reliable articles. We judge the reliability of our sources because an article is only as good as its sources. A source that mentions someone doesn't necessarily prove the notability of that person. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:16, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I just looked up the page for KASLAND after buying a song on iTunes. There's a notice his page is under consideration for deletion. Concerned after having purchased Ashland's music and then being told he does not exist. I read the reasons for deletion. They went on forever, every objection the an editor was answered and his objection shown to be false. After looking at the editors page it looks like he's been in violation of wiki rules.

I use wiki to find early life info on individuals I find interesting even if they may have not yet have gold albums. I donate to keep a free flow of info. And if I can look at a wiki page and from there read articles and find interview on the artist. I don't find why there should be a reason to delete his page.

I would like to know why I support a site of free flow information, yet some overzealous editor can endlessly discredit an artist for being young. An artist I went to wiki to find info after purchasing his music. This endless effort by nog, I think is the editor name, does not serve the purpose of a self editing site. Again the artist page is KASLAND. And again I would like to know why continue to donate to an idea that has lost sight of its purpose. Casperjo22 (talk) 20:17, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Kasland (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch

There aren't reliable sources that prove his notability. I agree with the nomination for deletion. - Purplewowies (talk) 20:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Its true that Wikipedia should ideally be free flow of information. But, accuracy of the information is equally important. That's why there exists many processes and systems, just like the discussion you witnessed. An encyclopedia need not have an article for every person in the world. Wikipedia is meant only to reflect and summarize whatever information you could find in reliable sources elsewhere. If a person is not notable by virtue of reliable secondary sources, an article on the person might not be reliable. --Anbu121 (talk me) 20:36, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

this has now peaked my interest in your processes, you reference KASLAND in at least 6 other sites. 3 of which are well known artist. one is a gold disc selling artist. So he is valid on those pages but not on his. Casperjo22 (talk) 02:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

The sources did not prove his notability enough for a stand-alone article. If you can find reliable sources that prove his notability, please feel free to follow the appropriate avenues and stay in line with the policies and guidelines to write an article. WP:YFA and WP:AFC may help you if you have sources and can prove notability. - Purplewowies (talk) 03:09, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Hour of last edit

I just read an article that said it was last edited on October 5 (today) at 19:38. Do you use Greenwich Time? 75.5.245.156 (talk) 20:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

All Wikipedia time is based on UTC. Dismas|^(talk) 20:58, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

But logged in users can set a time zone at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-datetime. This affects times generated by the interface such as your example. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, this gadget can convert other time text (such as date signatures). –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 01:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

American History

Can someone please explain to me the events that led to the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand? Here is the link to the article and a picture of Franz Ferdinand: Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria

File:220px-Franz ferdinand.jpg

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylanreed95 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

There is plenty in that article to explain the events leading up to the assassination, starting with the background section. Did you read it? Do you want something more specific? Maproom (talk) 22:28, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Sybilphd

I can't log in after several tries and it says I did not associate my email with my username, but I did. Now I cant get in! Sybilphd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.185.141 (talk) 22:37, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

When I go to Special:EmailUser/Sybilphd, I receive a warning message: This user has not specified a valid e-mail address. You created that account several years ago, and you never did anything with it. Why don't you just create a new username? If you still want to use the username "Sybilphd", you won't have to work hard to get it: since the other account has no edits, you could create an account at any other username and then request a username change. You can have your username changed to one that already exists when the existing account has no edits. Nyttend (talk) 23:14, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Special:Log/Sybilphd shows the account was created 29 May 2007. Are you sure that was you? I wouldn't remember whether I supplied an email address 5 years ago. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:20, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

There's also an account User:Sybilphd1 created in October 2011. Did you perhaps create that one instead, when the name you wanted proved to have been taken? It might be worth trying your password on. - Karenjc 10:19, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Removing a deletion tag from an empty category

How does one remove the deletion tag from Category:Unreviewed new articles created via the Article Wizard from October 2012? I'm not going to create an article and ask for review (much less un-review an already-reviewed article!) just to remove the tag. I've looked at {{Monthly cleanup category}}, but that didn't help. Nyttend (talk) 23:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Fixed with [5]. {{Monthly cleanup category}} already tries to determine whether it's the current month and omit the tag in that case, but I guess it uses a string template which fails when the category name is too long. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:11, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

October 6

Am I allowed to delete my own post from a Talk page?

The other day I drew the attention of another editor to the fact that what he had written about someone, without any sources, was quite libellous and a breach of WP:BLP.

This editor immediately removed the offending content, so soon after I removed my post, because it now referred to non-existent content.

Unfortunately, by this time, another editor had commented on my post. The first editor insisted on restoring my post because the final post now referred to non-existent content.

A tiny edit skirmish ensued. I gave up.

I can see the logic problem here, but I did not want my post looking silly by referring to non-existent content. Of course, it's still there now, and looks silly.

So, am I entitled to remove a post of my own that no longer makes sense? HiLo48 (talk) 03:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

I would just leave a note saying that the problem has been solved. That way people will understand the issue is resolved. If the page is set up to autoarchive by Miszabot, it'll go away on its own anyways. --Jayron32 03:39, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Correct procedure to request additional uninvolved editors take a look at a problematic article

The article has a history of to and fro editing and least one major contributor has been indef blocked for COI promotional editing. Although it has been cleaned up quite lot from when it was purely a puff piece I still think it is far from neutral. Roger (talk) 10:44, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Letting us know what article you mean would be a good start. Maproom (talk) 12:16, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I thought there was a specific procedure for such "canvassing". The article is Camus Cognac - don't look at only the article as it is now, take a look at the history too. Thanks. Roger (talk) 13:17, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

There probably is a specific procedure for dealing with "canvassing", I just don't know what it is.

Anyway, I have looked at the article myself. I see three editors, the IP address 62.102.249.36, the single-purpose account User:Misssoleil, and User:Campuscow whose name suggests a Conflict_of_interest, who have been adding the advertising material, User:Athomedia77 who twice blanked the page awaiting "consideration by Camus marketing & legal departments" and has been blocked from editing Wikipedia, and a number of experienced editors who have been removing it or toning it down. I have just had a go at this myself, and added the article to my watchlist. Maproom (talk) 10:53, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! It's a good feeling when my concerns are validated by someone else. Roger (talk) 11:30, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Deletion of edited information

hello, this is srikanth from warangal(a.p)(india). the previous day i edited some information in wiki of warangal page. but today the edited information is deleted, reasoning that there is no proof for the information added by me. But the entire info which was presented by me is 100% exact one, and i tried to add proof by other informational sources, but there are no web pages or any links about the matter represented by me.... so, please help me.!SRIKANTH9911 (talk) 11:46, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Whether it is 100% true or not is not relevant here - what matters is that it has appeared in a reliable published source. This is called verifiability. If, as you say, there is no published source to confirm the material (on or offline), then it cannot be used in Wikipedia. - Karenjc 12:20, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Srikanth, the main reason your edit was reverted was not lack of proof. It was because the information you added (List of bus services) looked trivial in the context of the article. Wikipedia is not a directory. The information could have been summarized in a single sentence by saying that there exists local bus services from warangal to nearby towns. Don't get discouraged by this. As you are from Warangal, you can try to contribute in other areas in which the article lacks like History, Economy. But remember to use reliable sources. --Anbu121 (talk me) 12:37, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

deleting user subpages

Sorry for what I'm sure is a FAQ, but is there a better way of deleting one of your own user subpages than slapping a {{PROD}} tag on it and waiting for an admin to delete it for you? —Steve Summit (talk) 12:11, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

{{db-author}} should do the job fairly quickly. - Karenjc 12:17, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

{{PROD}} is only for articles. Use {{db-author}} or {{db-u1}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:37, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, both. —Steve Summit (talk) 14:30, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Actually {{tl:db-author}} is also meant for articles. To get user pages (such as sandboxes you no longer need) deleted {{tl:db-user}} is the correct tag. Roger (talk) 17:24, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

{{db-author}} (redirects to {{db-g7}}) is for all namespaces per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G7. {{db-user}} is a redirect to {{db-u1}}. I saw (and deleted) the page Steve tagged. Either tag would have worked in this case. Search the CSD talk archives [6] to see why U1 and G7 aren't merged. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:40, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Useful info, thanks. Roger (talk) 17:50, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

About Wiki and for editing knowledge

How to protect or unprotect a page? I want help for the wiki back ground color code. How to delete a page? What are bots or what are their job in wiki?--pratyya (talk) 13:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Only administrators can protect, unprotect and delete pages. See Wikipedia:Protection policy, Wikipedia:Requests for page protection and Wikipedia:Deletion policy. Bots are programs making automated or semi-automated edits, usually of a repetitive nature. See Wikipedia:Bots. I don't know the default background color code. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:34, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

The default skin is Vector. Help:Using colours#Wikipedia says: "In the Vector skin, the background colour on all pages is #FFFFFF". PrimeHunter (talk) 13:40, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Inaccurate data

Within This article: Wealth in the United States

This chart is incorrect. It shows year over year declines in net worth for three years (2000-2003). Using the sited data source there wrer only two yaers and the magnitude of change was an order lower than the author shows.

File:Change in US household wealth 1946-2007.gif — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.114.186 (talk) 13:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Breaking up is hard to do

How do I break up a long list of items, listed in 1 column, into 3 or 4 shorter columns?--Doug Coldwell ^talk 15:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

A table might help, although tables can be a bit of a pain. See Help:Table If you identify the list in question, we might be able to give more specific advice.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:35, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

List in question is List of biblical names.Can it be 3 columns instead of 1? Can you do it using "Template:Multicol". Thanks!--Doug Coldwell ^talk 20:36, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Check if this helps: Template:Div col --Anbu121 (talk me) 15:52, 6 October 2012 (UTC) Yuuuuuuup! Thanks. --Doug Coldwell ^talk 19:56, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Image thought to be copyrighted in the public domain?

Hi there. I was looking through the non-free images that need to be resized when I encountered File:Abieagent073017.jpg. It says the publishing date is sometime in 1917, so I would guess it's in the public domain. I'm not sure what to do about this, and I don't think I'm bold enough to fix this, so I'd just like to notify a more experienced editor who could research this more and take the appropriate action. Sorry if this isn't in the appropriate place. If it isn't, then please post what I should do if I encounter something like this again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Quirky Kitty (talk • contribs) 16:45, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

I have linked the image in your post with [[:File:Abieagent073017.jpg]]. A colon in front works for all wikilinks, also category and interlanguage. (No comment on the image itself) PrimeHunter (talk) 17:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The Quirky Kitty (talk) 03:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Article about Udo Kier

There are lots of mistakes in the English article about Udo Kier, also very subjective point of view, no neutral position. For example, it's written that Udo Kier is German actor while he lives and works both in Germany and America since 1991 so he is German and American/Hollywood actor. Also written that he is "known primarily for his work in horror and exploitation movies". Known for whom, I wonder? For horror fans? He did more than 200 films and only very few among them are horror or "exploitation"(by the way, what is "exploitation movie"? it must be "sex exploitation"what is also not true as he did no more than 5-6 films like that). Udo Kier did many serious films. Then there is very offensive quote by the frontman of music band Korn that contains word "fuck" and so on..Then Udo Kier never said that he is homosexual! Is it possible to add him into the "Gay actors" page?? Then he never was "protege" of Fassbinder, it's an old myth, he was discovered in London by another director and did about 10 films before to work with Fassbinder and they were more friends than collegues, Udo did mostly episodes in his films. Then Udo kier play sonly in episodes in Lars von Trier movies after "Europe" film whicj was in early 90s...and many other mistakes! Unfortunatelly, user called "Joshmaul" didn't accept my editing, almost no one change I did. It looks that there is personal hateness towards Udo kier or probably even homophobic. Please help to edite Udo Kier page correctly! For the moment the text of the page based mostly on one old article/review which has nothing to do with reality and was many times disproved by Udo Kier himself in his interviews. I sent links to many interviews with the actor where he says the true about himself but almost nothing was written and accepted by Joshmaul and almost no change done, even in a movie title which I took from IMDB, now there are lots of mistakes! What to do?? Who is "Joshmaul"? Your official editor? How to write true (based on Kier's resent Interviews and IMDB bio) in Wiki????? The interview about his childhood and work with Paul Morrissey (information was not accepted by your editor)

The interview where he talk true about Fassbinder and their relationships! My edits wasn't accepted!

Another interview whre he tells about Fassbinder and how he (Udo Kier) in real came into cinema, about how he made debut!

Almost nothing was accepted by "Joushmaul", he also can't prove am I represent Udo kier or not, and it's not his business at all. i never says that I'm representative myself, I said that some information was passed by his representatives what is true and also it wass their asking to change the article. I can provided you with 50 other articles and interview with Udo Kier which disproved almost all the information in the English wiki article! Besides the article wrote more as a critique that neutral bio and besides the language of it is very poor and even sound as slang..("He has strarred" instead "he played" or "he was in") and so on. Please help!!! Can people edite anything in Wiki or not??? I'm totally into this theme and subject!

This is largely a content dispute. Take it to the talk page and discuss it to reach consensus. But bear in mind:

• Your sources must be reliable (IMDB, for instance, is not.)
• Unsupported accusations of bias and prejudice because someone reverted an edit are unhelpful.
• If you are also editing as User:Playersde, who is currently busy reinserting the removed material back into the article and whose edit summaries resemble some of your arguments above, you need to be careful not to fall foul of Wikipedia's rules on using multiple accounts: see WP:SOCK. Discussing and agreeing the new wording would be a better strategy.

_ Karenjc 21:57, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Changing a toolbox link?

Is there any way to make "Upload file" in my toolbox link to Special:Upload or WP:Upload/old instead of the wizard? - Purplewowies (talk) 18:44, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

This in Special:Mypage/skin.js (your current skin) or Special:Mypage/common.js (all skins) will add a new link "Old upload" above the existing link:

mw.util.addPortletLink(
  'p-tb',
  mw.util.wikiGetlink( 'Wikipedia:Upload/old' ),
  'Old upload',
  't-uploadold',
  'Upload files with old form',
   null,
  '#t-upload'
);

You can guess how to get Special:Upload instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:11, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Red link should be blue

When copyediting Silvestre de Sousa I tried to wikilink Queen's Vase but couldn't, although the page exists; it links here, and in the edit window of the de Sousa article for the life of me I can't see any extra spaces, misspellings or missing brackets (my usual problems). Although I have much experience with pilot error, this time I can't figure out why it won't work. Any suggestions? Thanks and all the best, Miniapolis (talk) 20:35, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Please check it now. Some problem with the apostrophe. --Anbu121 (talk me) 20:50, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

You can copy-and-paste the title from the target to ensure a link works. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:09, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much; I never thought to check the apostrophe! All the best, Miniapolis (talk) 13:47, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Advertising on Wikipedia

I'm suddenly seeing ads on Wikipedia. One right under the article title, and another right above an article's table of contents. I am NOT happy. I thought Wikipedia would never run ads? 98.193.228.251 (talk) 21:18, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't. What are you seeing? You may want to check your computer for malware/adware. The Computing RefDesk might be able to help you further. - Karenjc

They are not made by Wikipedia. See WP:RFAQ#ADS. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:10, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

On the last page with ads, the first one was a weight loss ad, and the second was for an online game. I scanned my computer, but didn't find anything. I'll take the question to that RefDesk. Thanks for your help. 98.193.228.251 (talk) 01:32, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

WWE LIST

Is there any list on Wikipedia about wrestlers of WWE who have deceased ? 123.201.218.122 (talk) 23:07, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

User asked the same question that the Ref Desk as well. Should be answered over there. Dismas|^(talk) 23:13, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

October 7

Templates not wrapping in articles

When I expand a template box like "Batting champions" on Buster Posey's page, the list doesn't wrap on the page, but extends waaay over to the right. This is using Firefox 15.0.1 on Ubuntu. Can I fix this somehow? Thank you for your help.

It looks just fine for me – Safari 6.0.1 on OS X. Sorry, but I don't know what the problem could be. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:12, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Everything is fine here too. Firefox 15, Win7. Dismas|^(talk) 05:20, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

WP:WikiProject Apple Inc. page is all messed up

Could somebody tell me why all the Wikipedia headers/sidebars are tiny and overlapping the page? It only has happened in the last revision, and I can't seem to find anything wrong. –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:22, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

No idea, but it seems to have been fixed by a purge. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:45, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you – I should have thought of that... –– Anonymouse321 (talk) 06:47, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Editing

Is there any limit of age in wiki? Is there any thing is counted to become a administrator?Can I upload a file which is modified from a wiki file.How can I (I am not an administrator) can protect my user page from others?--pratyya (talk) 05:41, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

1. For how old you have to be to edit Wikipedia? If so, no.
2. There really are no specific requirements, but you might want to read this.
3. What kind of file? A picture or movie? If so, click on the Upload file in the "Toolbox" section on the left side bar.
4. You can't, and you probably shouldn't. But, you can use tools like Twinkle to quickly revert vandalism done to your user page.

–– Anonymouse321 (talk) 05:52, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

On #1, a younger editor might find WP:YOUNG of some help. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:06, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Unintentional damaging content while attempting to fix a trivial mistake

I try asking here for i'm new to editing an article and i didn't manage to contact (or even discover) its original authors. The article modified (by me) is the following http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichlorocarbene

I simply noticed a wrong chemical name (dichloroaziridine) for the substance dicholroDIAZIRINE (they are two different substances actually), and I assumed to simply fix it by manually retyping the occurrencies correctly.

For some reason i don't understand, some explanatory text attached to picture [5] is now no longer visible on rendered page, even if i didn't physically cancel it from the source text (perhaps i have corrupted some markup formatting symbol, but i don't know which). I took care not to do that, but it happened nonetheless :-( I dont' know how to contact the authors to apologize or simply inform of this, in order to revert the unwanted change (while keeping the correction). I hope you can give me some advice to solve this problem. Yours sincerely Gatto_Vizzato — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.8.75.145 (talk) 15:06, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't think you screwed up any formatting symbol. I can see from this diff that you have changed only the spelling. The explanation of the picture has been formatted as a reference note. It was in the form of a reference note even before you edited the page. Any text between <ref> and </ref> will appear at the bottom of the article in the references section. --Anbu121 (talk me) 15:27, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but just to clarify, you do mean the note for the diagram captioned "Dichlorocarbene from dichlorodiazirine" that begins "a) Starting from phenol reaction with cyanogen bromide to phenyl cyanate..."? It seems to be displaying ok now. Is it still not working for you? If so, perhaps we need to get the wizards in the basement experts at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) to have a look, as I can't see how the simple changes you've made should affect the page in such a way. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

deletions of alternate covers

Will inclusions of alternate covers never be allowed on wikipedia? recently I have seen thousands of album covers are deleted, such as this mass deletion (See September 2012 section). Puramyun31 (talk) 17:12, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Burton

I created an article about Graeme Burton in my sandbox. Someone accepted the article but set it up as a redirect. How do I remove the article from my sandbox without destroying the article?Offender9000 18:10, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Graeme Burton was moved to an independent page on August 29. User:Offender9000/sandbox redirects to it. Edit that page (click on the link where it says "(Redirected from User:Offender9000/sandbox)", and delete the text "#REDIRECT Graeme Burton". Rojomoke (talk) 18:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Space before text

In the article Mario Forte the initial letters of each paragraph have been indented by two small spaces. Spaces at the beginning of a line always used to produce a dotted box going off the right hand side of the page, and still does, if I try to replicate this. What is different about this in Mario Forte? (I know the article needs a mass clean-up, but I have not done this, in case it disturbs the formatting) Arjayay (talk) 18:25, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't see any spaces in the article or the source text. - Purplewowies (talk) 18:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Neither do I and this "article" is a promo Cv hack job only referenced to the subjects website! Do they even meet WP:GNG? FYI, the article creator and only early editor, — Kouriart (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 19:42, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Habbo Retro

Is there a way I can make my own Habbo Retro for free? If so, can you teach me how to make it? An example of one that I want mine to look like is in the link: Fresh-Hotel If you need to know about Habbo, go to this link: About Habbo

--Dylanreed95 (talk) 19:00, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Cresix (talk) 19:04, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

what do i do if ppl change to an unclear verison?

what do i do if ppl change to an unclear verison? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coginsys (talk • contribs) 19:56, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi, first you start by being clear about what article you're talking about and what's with the "unclear" version. CaptainScreebo ^Parley! 19:57, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

all of them they all got changed and the person say to leave a msg on they talk page but doesnt respond. just changes back to the unclear version — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coginsys (talk • contribs) 20:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Categorisation

I find the categorisation help pages utterly incomprehensible. What about "A category page is a page in the "Category:" namespace." Pretty good, hey? Has anyone got any simple guidance where to find how to do this? I don't mean the tags, I mean how to determine what the categories are for my article? Afterbrunel (talk) 20:27, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

how can you easiely see what is inside an edit, like when you have a reply on help, how can i see if it was for me or not?

how can you easiely see what is inside an edit, like when you have a reply on help, how can i see if it was for me or not?