Talk:One Direction
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Middle names will be restored
Malik
A trustworthy source has been found for Malik's middle and birth name @Ancestry.com.
- It is him as his mother maiden name: Brannan (her maiden name is already sourced on his bio) is given under his birth name.
- The birth index is in his birth year.
- Everyone has been speculating and saying Jawaad or Javadd so searched under Zain Javadd Malik with extra his mother's maiden name: Brannan it can't be anyone else and also it states he was born in Yorkshire which Bradford is located in.
- Here is the source: Zain Javadd Malik at Ancestry.uk
- You can click for more info on him (birth place and stuff) but then you pay money via credit card.
So his real official birth name is : Zain Javadd Malik based on the UK archive and not the untrustworty sites like: twitter,facebook,tumblr, and fanwebsites.
Styles
Here is Styles data with his mothers maiden name given, he was born in Worcestershire like the Capital FM source stated: Harry Edward Styles at Ancestry.com
His name birth name: Harry Edward Styles --- no Harold after all. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:49, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
This article is so bloated
Too many non-notable material, too many quotes, this is not a news article. Krystaleen (talk) 03:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- Taylor Swift's article is way more bloated; i kind of like the idea that there is as much information about a time period AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:01, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- I Have trimmed a bit AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:36, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- Just because there's an article out there that's more bloated doesn't mean this one has to be bloated too ;) A lot of things don't need to be mentioned here. Too many quotes, and stuff like "screaming fans lined up behind barriers" is not that important. I imagine the screaming fans are always following them anyway. Krystaleen (talk) 02:27, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- your right i got inspired to add screaming fans by The Beatles article where screaming fans are continually cited "The Beatles left the United Kingdom on 7 February 1964, with an estimated four thousand fans gathered at Heathrow, waving and screaming as the aircraft took off.[79] At New York's John F. Kennedy Airport they were greeted by another uproarious crowd estimated at three thousand" AdabowtheSecond (talk) 01:13, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- Just because there's an article out there that's more bloated doesn't mean this one has to be bloated too ;) A lot of things don't need to be mentioned here. Too many quotes, and stuff like "screaming fans lined up behind barriers" is not that important. I imagine the screaming fans are always following them anyway. Krystaleen (talk) 02:27, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- I Have trimmed a bit AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:36, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
- Taylor Swift's article is way more bloated; i kind of like the idea that there is as much information about a time period AdabowtheSecond (talk) 18:01, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
This page is like a fan page, not a encyclopedic article at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.48.1.148 (talk) 21:15, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Nobody male, or female over 13, gives a toss about this 'band'. The WP article is typical of articles written by fans of similar manufactured acts. --Ef80 (talk) 00:29, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- So that is why the article has been assessed twice to be a WP:Good article. This talk page is not to discuss the band itself but how to make it better so please keep your opinions to yourself unless it's actually about improving the article. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 21:27, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- Careful! Looks like you offended their butt buddy. Good thing you're not a 'fan', Adabow… MiracleMat (talk) 04:42, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, again this page talk not to discuss whether I'm a fan (which I am :O) or if one direction members/ I enjoy anal sex. Keep it about the article... WP:NOTAFORUM. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 22:32, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Careful! Looks like you offended their butt buddy. Good thing you're not a 'fan', Adabow… MiracleMat (talk) 04:42, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- So that is why the article has been assessed twice to be a WP:Good article. This talk page is not to discuss the band itself but how to make it better so please keep your opinions to yourself unless it's actually about improving the article. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 21:27, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
'British-Irish' or Anglo-Irish?
Why is the band described as british Irish? Given there's no members in the band from Wales or Scotland surely it's more accurate to call the band Anglo-Irish? What are people's thoughts? --Richardeast (talk) 13:17, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with "English-Irish". Anglo-Irish usually means something different entirely... — Jon C.ॐ 15:09, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- In every report/ news article they're described as british not english, so thats why, they represent the UK not England AdabowtheSecond (talk) 15:22, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- English - Irish, sounds a better anyhow Jon! Adabow - saying someone is from England automatically means they're british/ european/ northern hemisphere/ earthling. But detailing someone's country rather than simply saying they're 'british' makes the article more accurate and makes for a better encyclopedia (thus why this is done on almost all musicians or actors). --Richardeast (talk) 08:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- The country is the UK, so they are referred to as British. Although WP:Consensus decides. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 22:40, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, that doesn't hold true on Wikipedia. Most people are referred to as English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish. Very few are "British". — Jon C.ॐ 08:20, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- Why not just British or English without the Irish? I mean the band itself if from England, although there is a member from Ireland. We do this for other bands.--Krystaleen 08:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed. See U2, for example – The Edge and Adam Clayton are English, but they're an "Irish band" because they formed in Dublin. — Jon C.ॐ 08:54, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- This is not appropriate where someone is born details their nationality this is not factually accurate, English-Irish is perfectly accessible. That the band were formed and based in England, does not make them "English". AdabowtheSecond (talk) 22:55, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed. See U2, for example – The Edge and Adam Clayton are English, but they're an "Irish band" because they formed in Dublin. — Jon C.ॐ 08:54, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- Why not just British or English without the Irish? I mean the band itself if from England, although there is a member from Ireland. We do this for other bands.--Krystaleen 08:47, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, that doesn't hold true on Wikipedia. Most people are referred to as English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish. Very few are "British". — Jon C.ॐ 08:20, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
- The country is the UK, so they are referred to as British. Although WP:Consensus decides. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 22:40, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- English - Irish, sounds a better anyhow Jon! Adabow - saying someone is from England automatically means they're british/ european/ northern hemisphere/ earthling. But detailing someone's country rather than simply saying they're 'british' makes the article more accurate and makes for a better encyclopedia (thus why this is done on almost all musicians or actors). --Richardeast (talk) 08:00, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- In every report/ news article they're described as british not english, so thats why, they represent the UK not England AdabowtheSecond (talk) 15:22, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
AdabowtheSecond, can you reword your sentence? I don't think I follow.--Krystaleen 16:29, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- "Enlish-Irish"? Were they based, formed or originally gained notibility from Ireland? No, no and no. Were they form in the UK, based in the UK and gained notability originally in the UK, yes, yes and yes. British, or English, would be fine, individuals nationality do not come into it in a case where individual was not notible before they joined the band or where the person has put forward their nationality or background as an influence on the band, but the latter in limited situations.. Murry1975 (talk) 16:37, 28 September 2012 (UTC)add
- It should just be "British" per the overwhleming description in reliable sources: [1]. Rangoon11 (talk) 16:46, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- Krystaleen what's wrong with sentencing, I think my opinion is clear. Murry I see your point however think a Chinese group all born in China, but they were formed and gained notability in France, do you still cite them as a French band? Would be kind of funny. About British - English, I have said this before in every article their described as British never English AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:52, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- I can see your point, but I don't understand this sentence: "This is not appropriate where someone is born details their nationality this is not factually accurate, English-Irish is perfectly accessible."--Krystaleen 17:16, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, I don't think it's appropriate to cite them solely as British or an English band as one member carries an Irish nationality, therefore I don't think it's factually accurate to describe them solely as British. Furthermore, I do not think it's problematic to describe them as British-Irish therefore it is accessible. Clearer?
- A band of Chinese being formed in France? Dont start exaggerating to try to push your point. One out of five is Irish, was not notable before the band, not notable for anything outside the band, why, in your opinion do you think that he should set what the band are described as? It was a British TV show, the band were formed and based in the UK, WP:undue would indicate that British-Irish would give weight to the minority. Murry1975 (talk) 11:33, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- Although I prefer British-Irish I see your point. English or British then? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:20, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- It's also worth noting that the band wasn't actually formed by the members themselves but by the TV programme they were contestants in. The band is not their creation as such, but that of a British TV show. Rangoon11 (talk) 19:12, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- Although I prefer British-Irish I see your point. English or British then? AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:20, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- A band of Chinese being formed in France? Dont start exaggerating to try to push your point. One out of five is Irish, was not notable before the band, not notable for anything outside the band, why, in your opinion do you think that he should set what the band are described as? It was a British TV show, the band were formed and based in the UK, WP:undue would indicate that British-Irish would give weight to the minority. Murry1975 (talk) 11:33, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, I don't think it's appropriate to cite them solely as British or an English band as one member carries an Irish nationality, therefore I don't think it's factually accurate to describe them solely as British. Furthermore, I do not think it's problematic to describe them as British-Irish therefore it is accessible. Clearer?
- I can see your point, but I don't understand this sentence: "This is not appropriate where someone is born details their nationality this is not factually accurate, English-Irish is perfectly accessible."--Krystaleen 17:16, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- Krystaleen what's wrong with sentencing, I think my opinion is clear. Murry I see your point however think a Chinese group all born in China, but they were formed and gained notability in France, do you still cite them as a French band? Would be kind of funny. About British - English, I have said this before in every article their described as British never English AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:52, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- It should just be "British" per the overwhleming description in reliable sources: [1]. Rangoon11 (talk) 16:46, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
You're all british I assume hence the reason you don't really care. Like you try to have everything to yourselves. It would kill you to put in that one of the most liked band members is Irish ha.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.216.115 (talk) 22:46, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
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Under Take Me Home and world tour (2012), on the end of the first paragraph, the song, "Live While We're Young" came out, today, on YouTube, 9/20/12 Thanks. Leenie212 (talk) 23:48, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
- Its radio or music video premiere isn't significant enough for main article, its release and commercial performance is, for further information see LWWY, AdabowtheSecond (talk) 22:31, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'm marking this stale request as answered. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 19:47, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Liam Payne Relationship
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Liam Payne and Danielle Peazer are no longer dating. It has been proved that she moved out of the house that they shared, and that she wants to go separate ways. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/liam-payne-danielle-peazer-breakup_n_1916243.html http://www.starpulse.com/news/Rachel_Ho/2012/09/26/liam_payne_and_danielle_peazer_its_ove http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/the-x-factor/107642-one-direction-liam-payne-danielle-peazer-split-danielle-moves-out.html I think that they should change that, or at least that Danielle is no longer living with him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilyEberhart (talk • contribs) 01:50, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- As long as they do not confirm they have broken up (actual statements), I don't think it should be adjusted, now its really just speculation, which an encyclopedia isn't. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 01:54, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- Liam Payne has now confirmed his single status. http://popdust.com/2012/10/03/one-direction-liam-payne-breakup-danielle-peazer-confirmed/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.33.244.164 (talk) 13:14, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
- Liam confirmed he's single on the Le Grand Journal interview. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.161.49.78 (talk) 04:35, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Danielle and liam broke up
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Accountingclass3ab (talk • contribs) 04:32, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
- Liam confirmed that he's single on the Le Grand Journal interview. Liam and Danielle are no longer together. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.161.49.78 (talk) 04:32, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
- Moved the latter four comments to this section from section "Liam Payne" which is about something else to keep the talk page from being to scrambled, I have removed all relationships, because the section needed trimming and it serves for no significance really. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 17:33, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Removal of Rock - Discuss
One Direction are rock!? c'mon you can't be serious, if One Direction are rock then Led Zeppelin is death metal. This dubious addition needs to be removed I call the big one bitey (talk) 1:26, October 6 (UTC)
- There's not a single source that labels them as rock. AllMusic described them as Dance pop, Teen pop and simply pop. It'll be hilarious when people will come across their wikipedia article & find that there's rock in the infobox. Bloomgloom talk 07:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rock is utilized in their music if any of you would actually see the sources in musical style but I understand that people can't live with the fact that rock is a genre one direction helm over, so changed to pop sub genres AdabowtheSecond (talk) 11:48, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- And bloomgloom rock/pop is cited at all music ref -__- AdabowtheSecond (talk) 11:57, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rock is utilized in their music if any of you would actually see the sources in musical style but I understand that people can't live with the fact that rock is a genre one direction helm over, so changed to pop sub genres AdabowtheSecond (talk) 11:48, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
Calling One Direction an English Band
Can One Direction be termed an English and Irish band as one of the five members (Niall Horan) is an Irish citizen by birth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daraghmcd (talk • contribs) 21:34, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
- I agree with your thoughts; see discussion above AdabowtheSecond (talk) 11:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- I agree. I'm Irish and it's highly offensive to class them all as English. They're an English/Irish band why make such a big deal out of it just because they're based out of England? Someone change it back please and thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurakillabean (talk • contribs) 16:17, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
- It's not classing them all as English, it's classing the band as a unit as English, having formed in England. If you look at Niall's section it's quite clear he's from the Republic of Ireland. — Jon C.ॐ 15:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sure he would still be pretty annoyed if he read this and "One Direction are an English boy band". Unreal7 (talk) 19:41, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
- Are U2 an Irish-English band? — Jon C.ॐ 09:31, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- How do you know how Niall Horan thinks? He might not care. But I'm not going to say I'm sure. He might be pretty annoyed that people he doesn't know are claiming to know his mind though. They are an English band with an Irish member, just like U2 are an Irish band with English members. –anemoneprojectors– 09:49, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think we should do the same to The Wanted?--Krystaleen 10:17, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yep, The Wanted should be changed, too, if anyone wanted to tackle it. — Jon C.ॐ 11:43, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Completely agree. This astonishing hypocrisy has to stop...--Τασουλα (talk) 19:11, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yep, The Wanted should be changed, too, if anyone wanted to tackle it. — Jon C.ॐ 11:43, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think we should do the same to The Wanted?--Krystaleen 10:17, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sure he would still be pretty annoyed if he read this and "One Direction are an English boy band". Unreal7 (talk) 19:41, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
- It's not classing them all as English, it's classing the band as a unit as English, having formed in England. If you look at Niall's section it's quite clear he's from the Republic of Ireland. — Jon C.ॐ 15:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- I agree. I'm Irish and it's highly offensive to class them all as English. They're an English/Irish band why make such a big deal out of it just because they're based out of England? Someone change it back please and thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurakillabean (talk • contribs) 16:17, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
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The are NOT k-pop at all. Wrong genre completely. Please take that out. Sarahedee (talk) 06:41, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- How about supplying a reliable source and list what genres should be included? Jim1138 (talk) 07:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have changed it is completely RIDICULES that editors didn't remove it prior (17 hours). K-pop is Korean pop that editors didn't remove it is sheer retardation or ignorance, how do they ever want Wikipedia to be taken seriously. Sources for One Direction's genres can be found in One Direction#Musical style section. Still reeling in shock 17 hours k-pop was cited I can't even. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 11:55, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
- One Direction's obviously not a K-pop band; closing as Already done. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 14:20, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
More specifically, they're a boy group not a boy band. Although Niall plays the guitar, they don't - as of yet - play their own instruments on any albums or singles they have released, nor in any tours. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GenneighD (talk • contribs) 20:06, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- "Boy band" is correct if you look at its article. ~ Wikipedian192 (talk) 07:31, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 12 October 2012
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Please change "One Direction are an English boy band" to "One Direction are an English/Irish boy band" because one band member (Niall Horan) is Irish. Saying that One Direction are English is false. 86.42.216.115 (talk) 22:35, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Not done. Can you provide a source for this information first? gwickwire | Leave a message 16:51, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
"Is" vs. "Are"
Shouldn't we say One Direction is a British-Irish boy band? ~ Wikipedian192 (talk) 07:28, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- No, this article uses British English. In the UK, bands are plural. Unreal7 (talk) 11:42, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
Band Members
Why don't any of the band members have their own Wikipedia page? And is there a plan to separate each one of the band members into their own page? This article seems bloated for such a young (shy of 2 year old) band. TekBoi [Ali Kilinc] (talk) 07:51, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- The thing is, none of the band members meet the notability guideline.--Krystaleen 08:06, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- If I may ask, what about Liam Payne? He has a history that precedes the formation of One Direction such as his time on the X Factor in 2008. Blueberry01120 (talk) 20:35, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
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