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It's my standard practice to just do the bit that actually needs an admin, i.e. the deletion, rather than the move as well. I normally pick these up working through the CSD lists, as just deletions waiting for action. I check my deletion logs daily, to see if anything has been recreated that shouldn't be, and I think few, if any, of these housekeeping speedies are not blue-linked within a day. Hope this helps, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:30, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
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- Sorry, this notification should have gone to User:Edworlds. Twinkle made a mistake because of the cut and paste move/history merge. Still, you can comment if you want to. :) — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 05:08, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Pam, I forgot ;) In ictu oculi (talk) 07:43, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
You're right, my bad. --Meno25 (talk) 13:17, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
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Hi. Apologies, I'm new to AWB and wasn't aware that I could change it. I've worked out how to do it now. Thanks for pointing it out. Del♉sion23 (talk) 17:40, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
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Page Curation newsletter - closing up!
Hey all :).
We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.
However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.
Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:26, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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Michel Soymie
Hello PamD, sorry to mess up your work on the Michel Soymié (not Soymie) article I created earlier. It turns out that he is dead (2002), not a Living person - I don't know if there is an equivalent category Dead persons. Also I will need to ask an admin to change the name of the article to Michel Soymié with an e acute - I don't know whether that affects the Default Sort or whether accents are ignored anyway. Grateful for your advice/sorting out. Thanks. Opbeith (talk) 00:07, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, Opbeith. Various replies:
- Please, when you mention an article on a talk page, make it a link - saves other editors a little time.
- You don't need to be an admin to move a page - I've just done it. Use the "Move" tag at the top of the article. Only problems are when there's already something at the title you want to move to (other than a redirect to the page being moved, with no edits after its creation): that's when you have to go to WP:RM if controversial, or use {{db-move}} if not.
- Forget "dead persons", but add categories for birth and death dates - I've done it. When stub-sorting I usually add sortkey and those cats all in one with this: {{subst:l|1924|2002|Soymie, Michel}} (that's a lower case "L" as name of the template, not a "1") For unknown dates but likely still to be living, leaving out both dates - {{subst:l|||Soymie, Michel}} - generates the cats you saw for this article previously: living and date of birth unknown.
- Sort key should definitely not have the accent: accented characters file weirdly, and the sort key should not include them.
- If you see a red link for something which your instinct says is likely to have a Wikipedia article, like Bibliotheque Nationale Française, then it's worth looking around to see if the article exists under a slightly different title. It does here: Bibliothèque nationale de France. I've now made a Redirect from your version (hence it's looking blue now), as a likely mistaken version! (In fact, looking at the wonderful list of redirects to that title, it's amazing you found a wrong name for it which wasn't already linked!)
- Hope that helps! PamD 07:08, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello PamD - thanks for all that help, and at that hour of the morning too! Apologies for making unnecessary work for you, I found more extra material than I expected and was well past sleeptime, so I bailed out and left stuff for this morning (I need to go and put some accents in that I couldn't face last night as well).
The last time I was involved in trying to Move an article there was a controversy raging whether article titles should have accents, so I was being cautious. I'm certainly in favour of including accents - I picked up the subject from the BL Dunhuang list where there was no accent and I had the wrong pronunciation in my head until I found the Bibliotheque Muncipale site. That's helpful to know about the sort key and accents - I've created a few articles with accented titles and I noticed that when Sort Keys were added they never included accents - I didn't understand Sort Key but I suspected there might be an issue there.
The combination sort key and categories tip is very handy - I'll lodge a copy in at my Talk Page as an aide-memoire.
I'm a pretty messy operator, definitely not librarian material, so I'm very grateful for your tidying up behind me!
All the best. Opbeith (talk) 09:10, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
spider stacy
hi pam, i see you edited spider stacy's wiki page again. Please let me know what your problems are with the passages you deleted. many thanks, louise stacy Louise stacy (talk) 01:39, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
- As far as I can see I have never edited the page Spider Stacy. (When you refer to a page on a talk page, please provide a link as a courtesy to the editor you are addressing and others who may read the talk page). Please check your information. I see that you made a major edit with the misleading edit summary "returned page after edit by unknown", after it had been edited by a large number of different editors, both named and IP, since it was last anything like that size in Nov 2011: please make sure that your edit summaries are accurate, and that you do not remove other editors' sourced contributions. I see that you share a surname with the subject: if you are related to him please read and be aware of WP:COI. Thanks. PamD 07:27, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Hello
Hi PamD, Thanks for the polite talk-note on Wikipedia policy, & your contributions to the Peter Vogel stub. --winterstein (talk) 16:06, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Regarding the "notability" and "orphan" tags in the above-mentioned article, I have now inserted some more sources to help establish notability. I have also posted a more elaborate explanation on the article's talk page. Please review my response there. Regarding the "orphan" tag, I have added a link to the Fareeda Kokikhel Afridi article. Please discuss the issues on the article's talk page so that they may be resolved. Regards. OrangesRyellow (talk) 10:01, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
If we click Google News [1] right now, and expand the section listing news reports on Malala Yousafzai, we find that google is giving a link to our above-mentioned article even when it is stub class. Is that enough to take off the notability tag?OrangesRyellow (talk) 18:08, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
- The Google argument absolutely doesn't work: its computers have found our article, that's all - nothing there to give any "notability". But the four newspaper refs probably just about add up to it, though I worry it's a bit like WP:BLP1E. I've removed the tag. I've also formatted one of the references properly - please do your readers the courtesy of giving full information for all your references (name of newspaper, date published, author if stated, date retrieved - because online resources can change): they should not have to follow a link just to find out where the information comes from, whether it's a well-respected source or not. Please also note that the "See also" section isn't the place to list all the other articles you think are related. Create a "navbox" template for "Women's rights in Pakistan" or something, but please don't list so many articles this way. Thanks. PamD 18:40, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have expanded the refs as you suggested. Will add some more refs when I get around to expanding that article. Thanks for taking off the notability tag. I like the 'navbox' idea and though I am not familiar with the mechanics of creating a template, will give it a try...OrangesRyellow (talk) 19:29, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
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University of Nottingham Students' Union Council
Hi, I'm writing up a motion to the UoN SU Council to promote the use and publication of media under free licences. As a UoN student/alumnus, I was wondering if you'd like to give your input.
Please comment at commons:Commons:Village pump#Motion to University of Nottingham Students' Union Council.
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Redirect
Hey Pam D
Thank you for your advice on my article on Stephen A. Schrum however I am a little confused as to what you mean as to how I go about adding the "Redirect" from "Stephen Schrum" - that you told me to, any further information of how I go about this would be helpful.
LydiaRDoyle1992 (talk) 12:39, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
I just managed to create it. I am getting use to editing wikipedia : )
LydiaRDoyle1992 (talk) 13:43, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you so much - it's nice to see a UK university teaching students about Wikipedia, and I hope that some of them will continue to edit the encyclopedia even after the module is over. PamD 09:44, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Notability
Hey PamD
Due to the fact your advice has been so helpful I thought I connect you regarding my main problem at the moment. My article has been given a notability tag, I am in the process of trying to prevent my article from being deleted. Looking at number 4 of the Notability guidelines for academics it states if the person has authored several books that are widely used as textbooks, although Stephen A. Schrum has published several books would adding more details about these books more the article more notable? Also I have discovered this website which was suggested on wikipedia page for book citations world cat in which the date of the top is the year he was born.
Thank you for your help.
LydiaRDoyle1992 (talk) 16:41, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Lydia, well done for finding that Worldcat record - I think you could add "(born 1957)" and cite the Worldcat record as your reference. Then add Category:1957 births. (Hint: if you want to mention a category in a talk page, without adding that talk page to the category, add a colon as in [[:Category:1957 births]].)
- You've also now got his middle name, so can usefully add that to the opening sentence - this tends to include full names even when the subject never uses them.
- And you have some more publications which you can add to your article, with publisher and ISBN details (click on each book in turn to get full info). Adding the ISBN, if you format it right - the letters ISBN in caps, then space, then the number - makes an automatic link, which is always an asset to your article. Ah, actually looking at them, two are his dissertations - but that's more information about him which you could usefully add, sourced to Worldcat. But the other one is in 238 libraries: can you find a review of it anywhere? (Worldcat hasn't got any linked).
- You may still struggle to get him "notable", though. The rules are very strange, in that any footballer who has once played a single professional game counts as "notable" while academics have quite a high barrier to cross.
- Check your spelling for "CALLAB-L". When you spell it right and Google it there are quite a few hits and one or two might be worth citing, like page 230 of https://journals.ku.edu/index.php/jdtc/article/viewFile/1923/1886. Does it still exist? Or is it historic info? (Do any listservs still exist?)
- Good luck! PamD 18:10, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Question moved from wrong place on talk page
Hi I am editing the article on Suzon Fuks, if I get permission off the artist to use her statement on waterwheel may I include this in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eusa65 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
- The answer is simple: follow the "permission" link in the message on your talk page about copyright violation. That explains the system. But even if she gave you permission to dump everything from her website into your article, it's not written as an encyclopedia article. Phrases like "Here you can create and collaborate, rehearse and remix, present and exchange, participate and communicate—privately as a crew or publicly with an audience" are completely unsuitable in tone. You would do better to look at the information about Waterwheel on that page and extract some key ideas, plain factual information, which you then rewrite in your own words, bearing in mind that you are not writing advertising blurb but trying to explain what Waterwheel actually is for the benefit of readers of an international encyclopedia. PamD 19:29, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you
Hello Pam, just saying thanks for the alteration/ correction on the wiki article I am creating. I'm still fairly new to the wiki world and with your assistance it has helped me learn a little bit more on how it all works. Thanks again, keep up the good work. --LairdCharles (talk) 20:44, 29 October 2012 (UTC)LairdCharles
Plaintext Players - Many thanks
Dear User:PamD Thank you very much for the assistance and cleanup on my page Plaintext Players please bare in mind the current state is just the ground works andI intend to add further detail about various shows from combining both primary sources and secondary. Best, SWalton91 (talk) 23:52, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
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Thank you for attempting to help, don't think this is in my remitt for my life denise (talk) 12:35, 30 October 2012 (UTC) |
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| For Dedicating your time to our student pages, thank you PamD NomNomNomNathan (talk) 12:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC) |
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Just a thankyou for the help you've given me and other students with our articles - especially thanks from me for clearing up the stub issue. Thanks! Have some falafel. - Dregan Phillips (talk) 12:43, 30 October 2012 (UTC) |
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| Thank you for helping me to develop my page further Samantha2chipmunk (talk) 13:01, 30 October 2012 (UTC) |
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| Thank you very much for all your help over the last few days, I am really happy with how the page came out, and it would not have been as good without your advice and guidance. Joe Berwick (talk) 13:12, 30 October 2012 (UTC) |
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I just wanted to thank you for helping me and my colleagues in our early wikipedia lives. I feel that this cat symbolises our innocence in this community and that you will nurture us.
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Thank you again. LydiaRDoyle1992 (talk) 13:18, 30 October 2012 (UTC) |