Talk:Azerbaijan

Northern Iran

Since a huge number of Iranian population are Azeri (Including me!) and those people are genetically related to other Iranic Peoples, I think the term "Northern Iran" is both historically and logically more accurate.

according to many histories azerbaijan people are a mixture between proto turkish people like scythians and huns and later turkish people like khazars and seljuks and later during mongol invasion some uighor turkish tribes immigrated to the area, the north and south azerbaijan has been a turkic accomodated area for at least 3500 years, geneticaly azeri people are so close to people of turkey, common turkic looks is white skinned and colored eyes with hairs varying between black to pure blond, this is while persians of iran are brown and semitic, genetics of turkic people are also very similar to many east european nations because of massive cuman, kipchak, bulgar, khazar and other turkic tribes immigrations to the east europe countries, this is while persians have the closest genetic traits to Arabic and semitic people, based on the historical facts it is quite wrong to consider azerbaijan an iranian area, the only known government in azerbaijan were local khanats, later during the safavid dynasty of iran (which were also a turkic clan) ottoman empire captured azerbaijan, but the area remained under khanat feudal systems until russian empire and qajar dynasty of iran commensed some claims over the area and at last a war begun between qajars and russians over deviding the lands, after many years of war they agreed to put the arax river as the border line, since then north azerbaijan was under russian and later soviet rule and south azerbaijan occupied by iran, nowaday north azerbaijan has gained its independence but south azerbaijan is still under iran's cruelty. the population of azeri turks in iran are at least estimated to be about 20 million souls, this must not be the source of mistake about considering persians as whites, those are iranian azeri turks, persians are a brown semitic people. also this is a very accurate map about the azeri accomodated areas in iran: http://www.joshuaproject.net/profiles/maps/m18859_ir.pdf more references: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_origins_of_the_Turkish_people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seljuq_Empire http://southaz.blogspot.com/2010/07/irans-multi-cultural-and-multi-ethnic.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ural-Altaic_languages http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/jahanshah-javid/genetics-iranians-least-similar-europeans-or-other-near-easterners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qizilbash http://www.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/21326/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Azerbaijan#Azerbaijan_Democratic_Republic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turanid_race http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/tomyris.html

Neutrality and politics

Forgive me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Azeri government have some problems regarding human rights, and the last elections were regarded as a sham? ([[1]],[[2]], [[3]]). Reading the article, this is hardly mentioned, aside from the brief statement that '[a]lthough Azerbaijan has held several elections since regaining its independence and it has many of the formal institutions of democracy, it remains classified as "not free" (on border with "partly free") in Freedom House's Freedom in the World 2009 survey' and the link to the page Human Rights in Azerbaijan. In addition, the (admittedly claim) in the introduction that 'Azerbaijan remains as one of the most liberal majority-Muslim nations' seems to run counter to the Human Rights article and the sources I've cited; and the soruces don't seem to meet the highest standards of academic rigour - they're two online travel guides.

In general, reading the article, Azerbaijan comes across as a beacon of freedom and democracy in a despotic region (although the article never directly says this); and, whilst it may well be one of the best countries in the region, it is certainly not the paragon of virtue it is portrayed as. I didn't want to make any changes before I checked that I hadn't got the wrong end of the stick here.

Thedisillusionedyouth (talk) 11:07, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Given all the coverage, this article obviously needs a Human Rights section listing all the abuses. Jamesinderbyshire (talk) 17:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

-- Funny how any mention of human rights has vanished from the article during the eurovision contest? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.193.119 (talk) 21:49, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I've added in a section under politics: at the moment it's only a couple of lines long, but I'm hopping that wiki magic will mean it's filled out collectively. Thedisillusionedyouth (talk) 18:49, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

It seems wiki magic failed you. This really needs to be rectified. I'll see what I can do, but I can't do it alone. --Glubbdrubb (talk) 13:49, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Map of Azerbaijan (Karabakh)

Since the Karabakh region is not under Azerbaijan's control (and has never been under Republic of Azerbaijan's control) I propose the main map of Azerbaijan to have Karabakh highlighted in different colour, just like in the current map of Georgia.

http:/upwiki/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Georgia_%28orthographic_projection_with_inset%29.svg/550px-Georgia_%28orthographic_projection_with_inset%29.svg.png

MosMusy (talk)

Edit request August 9, 2012

Please, some update the population data for the country

As of January 1, 2012, Azerbaijan has a population of 9,235,100

Reference link: http://www.azstat.org/statinfo/demoqraphic/en/AP_/AP_1.shtml and http://www.azstat.org/statinfo/demoqraphic/en/AP_/1_1.xls

Daugvapils (talk) 05:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

ref name="Day.az">"Турецкие тележурналисты посетили массовое захоронение в Губе". Day.az. Retrieved 17 October 2010. Template:Ru icon</ref> The claim that this massacre was carried out by the Armenians is not backed up by any valid sourse, but a local Azeri newspaper that obviously has its reasons for spreading hate towards the Armenians. Please come up with more proof, if you can, before spreading such vicious rumors. It is not professional. Thank You.

Ggaddar (Ggaddar (talk) 18:11, 20 August 2012 (UTC)).

Map

We should use the same criteria as for Georgia, Serbia, Cyprus and Moldova, highlighted in different colour the territories that are not under state control. Regards. MauriManya (talk) 21:50, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Alternate etymology?

Shouldn't the two etymology sections be one section stating that there are two competing etymological theories, rather than two sections "Etymology" and "Alternate etymology"? --Pfhorrest (talk) 05:34, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that makes sense. Also this might be of your interest. George Spurlin (talk) 13:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

A NEW MAP OF AZERBAIJAN TO EXCLUDE NAGORNO KARABAKH REPUBLIC/ REGION.

Nagorno Karabakh is not under Azeri control and the goverment of Azerbaijan has no ability to administer the region. A new map should highlight the region not controlled by Azerbaijan goverment like the map of Moldova and Georgia. This should be done quickly.Findblogging (talk) 21:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Please write the title again using small letters, as is the convention. (BTW we should also quickly save WP from nationalist POV pushers.) --E4024 (talk) 21:36, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Please we need the creation of a new map of Azerbaijan that would exclude Nagorno Karabakh republic which is no longer under its control

The independent country of Nagorno Karabakh is still shown in the current map of Azerbaijan. As the talkpage of Azerbaijan site discusses there should be a new map showing the real territory that goverment of Azerbaijan administers and has a legitimise to exercise its power.

There should be a map like Georgia (country) that currently excludes with a light colour South Ossetia and Abkhazia