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missing entry?

Hi there, I've created a new article under the title "Mavi Marmara Trial", and submitted it for review. I saw the note that says it may take a few days to be reviewed, which is ok. But I can't see my article under "my contributions" or "my sandbox". When I refresh the submit page, it seems as if nothing has ever been written. Is this normal? Where can I find my article? How do I know if it's really awaiting review for approval? Thanks! Silik seksek cizgisi (talk) 19:09, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Having own edits deleted

Hi, I accidentally edited a wiki page without logging in. Since this saves your IP address, this is a problem for me. How do I get those edits erased from the history page in order to safeguard my privacy? Fordx12 (talk) 13:17, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome to the teahouse. You will need to request a Wikipedia:Revision deletion by either contacting one of the administrators listed in Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests (through email or by talk page) or on IRC via #wikipedia-en-revdel connect. Hope that helps,--xanchester (t) 13:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Fordx12 (talk) 13:40, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Birth and Death locations

Are birth and death locations supposed to be the location of the place where someone happened to be when they were born or died (usually a hospital), or wouldn't it be more accurate to use the place of residence immediately after birth or before death? --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 12:35, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wikitiki! To be honest, I agree the locations are sometimes slightly inconsequential. But you can get around the problem by saying, for example "XX was born on [date] and brought up/raised in YY", or simply "XX lived in YY" or "XX spent their last few years in YY before he suffered a heart attack and died on [date]" etc. Of course, statements about dates/places of birth need to be reliably sourced and verifiable so, in general, I would stick to whatever the source says. Sionk (talk) 13:21, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but I guess that would have to be left of of the infobox on the right. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 13:25, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is not compulsory to fill in every entry on the Infobox so I suppose if you think the info is inconsequential or misleading you can leave it out. You could always put the county or state name instead. If the person was born or died whilst on holiday it may be an interesting fact to place in the body of the article. In the developed world people often get born or die in hospitals so it is just a fact of life these days. We can put as much or as little weight on the information as we choose. Sionk (talk) 13:31, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wikitiki, don't get too hung up on how specific, town is normally the lowest level of information supplied in infoboxes. If you don't have the info at that level in most cases I wouldn't bother adding it. NtheP (talk) 15:07, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
But if I do have all the info, which one should I add? That's what I'm asking. --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 15:41, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As I said I'd stick at town. NtheP (talk) 17:57, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
But which town, the one where the hospital is or the one where they lived at the time? --- Wikitiki89 (talk) - 18:22, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

how to make a template

Hello. My name is yolofamiom22. How do you make a template? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yolofamicom22 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome to the teahouse! What sort of template are you trying to make? There are navigational temples, known as navboxes, infobox templates, and others. If you're trying to make a navbox template, as an example, it's easier to fill out the parameters for {{navbox}} than to start a template from scratch.--xanchester (t) 00:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yolofamicomm22, Templates are created just like any other page on Wikipedia but are part of the Template namespace. You create one by naming your new page Template:name of your template. As templates can be quite complicated there are a number of places you can experiment before committing your page. These are the Template sandbox and the templates X1, X2, X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, X8 and X9. NtheP (talk) 08:48, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

<br>

Can someone add a <BR> to the start of Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions-answer? 77.166.70.218 (talk) 07:52, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Anbu121! 77.166.70.218 (talk) 07:59, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good find. I am perplexed seeing the way it is transcluded --Anbu121 (talk me) 08:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rate this page is disabled.

On my article C++ grammar the section "Rate this page" is disabled. At least it is displayed as disabled to me. Who/when/how can rate my page? Looking at the links about this feature it seems to me that something (version5?) is under development. Can anybody provide any update? Should I do anything to enable collection of the feedback? Code-Analysis (talk) 00:21, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Teahouse! Hmmm. I have the "rate my page" feature on the bottom of the page. This sounds dumb, but have you refreshed the page? If that doesn't work, a good place to inquire might be the Village Pump, where some of our technically inclined editors hang out and mess around with problems like these. Go Phightins! 03:07, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict):Hi, Code-Analysis, welcome to the Teahouse. Since you are the creator of the page, feedback for the page is disabled for you. It would not be very helpful for someone to rate a page they have created. I am able to use the tool on that page just fine, so don't worry, it works.
But the more pressing issue is that it has been nominated for deletion. As a computer science student I see great potential in the article, but as it currently has zero references, others may not see it that way. I have commented at the deletion discussion, but, as expected, the user who posted after myself has argued for its deletion on the grounds that it has no references. I understand that you may not be versed in Wikipedia's citation paradigm, but we need something to go on. If you provide a list of references, others will be in a position to help you format them. That action alone may save the article. You may have known everything you wrote without looking it up, but readers need concrete verification. If you would like to try your hand at formatting the references yourself, you may want to take a gander at Help:Footnotes. Note that they do not have to be perfectly done right away. It is much more important that we can see where the information comes from. hajatvrc @ 03:15, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

how to make a montage for a city page using wiki commons pictures?

how can i make a montage for a city page using wiki commons pictures? (182.177.219.132 (talk) 16:41, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

182, welcome. If all the picture on on Commons then they will all be licenced for reuse so you could download the ones you want, create your montage and then upload the result onto Commons to be used. As far as I know there isn't any image editing facility her or on Commons that allows you to create a montage within wiki. NtheP (talk) 17:38, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi 182. You can find many free image editing programs with a quick search engine query. The industry standard would be GIMP, (which works on all common operating systems), but that has a slightly steeper learning curve than others, especially if you aren't familiar with Photoshop-type programs. You can find an on-Wiki list at Comparison of raster graphics editors, which will list the free ones for you. hajatvrc @ 20:56, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
By far the best program I have used is paint.net, furthermore Googles Picasa program should have some tools.Airbender3 (Talk) 02:52, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review

Hi 3 sugars please :) Where do I find people to review my article's talk page that is on my userspace? They should comment on editions needed, perhaps help with editions etc. before I move it to main userspace. I don't want to create my first article and then have it deleted for reasons I could have resolved earlier! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Airbender3 (talk • 13:04, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Airbender, add the markup {{subst:submit}} to the top of your page. This will add the request for the page to be reviewed at Wikipedia:Articles for creation. It may take some time as there a lot of pages awaiting review. NtheP (talk) 13:43, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Airbender3. Your draft of MyWapBlog.com is not yet ready to be moved to mainspace. You need to find some verifiable second-party sources to satisfy Wikipedia notability guidelines for web sites. The MyWapBlog.com sites are primary sources. I searched Google and found no independent coverage of MyWapBlog.com. Then I did internal searches of tech sites like CNet.com and PCMagazine. I found only one mention that it had been downloaded 11 times and a link to the site. Look for articles in newspapers and significant coverage on independent websites so show that MyWapBlog.com is notable. DocTree (ʞlɐʇ · cont) Join WER 02:16, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks NtheP, {{subst:submit}} is what I needed!!!
Thanks DocTree. I really just started the article a few days ago. I posed the question in anticipation of when I would move it. I am aware that the main service domain as a citation isn't very notable. There is another independent citation. The service reached number 3 in Indonesia on Quantcast last year. And has majority Indonesian users.
I'm sure there's lots of references in that community...
But the owner isn't Indonesian.
In the particular category there isn't a service like this available so its a sort of 'pioneer'. The creator hadn't done any marketing on the service and it spread by word of mouth.
Thanks for the the edit on 'there', I have a disability with that word lol.

Airbender3 (Talk) 02:49, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

want to edit this page as per wiki norms. can anyone help

am interested in creating this page. Can anyone help me edit this page as per wiki norms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ubsingh/Shubi_husain Ubsingh (talk) 12:30, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ubsingh, welcome to the Teahouse. There are a few issues with your draft article as it stands.
  1. you need to establish her notability by providing independent, reliable sources about her.
  2. the language you are using is quite effusive. Phrases like Shubi Husain has been a name synonymous with Health & Nutrition and outstanding knowledge & work in this field really need a lot of clarification but preferably should be removed unless you really can justify the statements.
  3. a lot of the article is about her company and what it offers making it sound like an advertisement for the company rather than an article about its founder. NtheP (talk) 13:13, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi
I will assist with infobox and sections. Airbender3 (Talk) 12:58, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


how to add titlle (i.e above) in native language in infobox

If i have written | above=University but i want to write "university" in a different language below the english rendering, how can i do it in template of infobox? Sohebbasharat (talk) 00:55, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Expanding on what I mentioned below, if you're interested in making an infobox for an article on a university, I recommend using {{Infobox university}} instead of a custom infobox. It's much more convenient. The university infobox has a parameter for the native name of the university. Hope that helps!--xanchester (t) 01:03, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

thanx, i wanted to make infobox for this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamia_Ahmadiyya actually in the infobox university, the labels are prefixed,this is a different kind of university,so i thought that a custom infobox of custom labels and headers would be a good one, infact i have made one in tutorial sandbox 1, can you see it? how can i show u?

I can see it on Wikipedia:Tutorial/Editing/sandbox. Great job, it looks good so far! However, I've noticed that the article in question already has an infobox. What other parameters do you plan on adding in the custom infobox?--xanchester (t) 01:22, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
thanx

yes there already is infobox, but i think that the labels are not exactly relevant like "Undergraduates=Shahid" It isnt like this, it isnt an undergraduate degree, it is a separate system, so Degrees Awarded is a better choice. similarly some other parameters might also be added. it was just an idea, i dont know if its good or not. also the formatting of flags in locations was shaggy, in the infobox i created, how can i add native language name below the title i have given? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sohebbasharat (talk • contribs) 01:42, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Use the subheader parameter.--xanchester (t) 01:46, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

how to customize style options while making infobox

i wanted to make an infobox. but i cannot find how to fill in the following parameters: |bodystyle = |titlestyle = |abovestyle = |imagestyle = |captionstyle = |headerstyle = |labelstyle = |datastyle =


Also | header1 = | label1 = | data1 = | header2 = | label2 = | data2 = if i have one header and then i want to add 3 or 4 labels . then what can i do in this above template? because it has made triplets of header/label/data 

Sohebbasharat (talk) 00:51, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, and welcome to the teahouse! Making a custom infobox is a daunting task. It might be more convenient to use one of the many infoboxes already available in Category:Infobox templates. Which article are you making this infobox for?--xanchester (t) 01:00, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to remove an IP address from an edit

I just summoned up courage to make a minor edit on an article to correct a wrong date - and found with dismay after I did it that I wasn't logged in. My 180 day login had just expired and I hadn't noticed. Is there any way of removing my edit and the "edit undo" from the edit history so that I don't make my IP address public. I can then put in the correct edit from my own ID. Thanks. Sarah Dluogs (talk) 23:36, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia's oversight policy for the full text, but I will summarize here. Due to you inadvertantly exposing your IP address, it is possible to permanently remove this from the servers. This is done using an extension named Oversight, which is only given to a very small trusted group of users who meet the WMF's requirements for access to non-public data, including identification to the WMF. To request this, go to the Oversight page linked above and follow the instructions above. Once your request is accepted (which I have no doubt it will be), an oversighter will remove the IP permanently. Depending on how the oversight is done, there may not be a need for you to redo the whole edit. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to ask! gwickwire | Leave a message 23:52, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this!! Dluogs (talk) 00:03, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming a page, and this new name already exists for another article

I've been editing the article about the ancient city of Bocchoris, see article Bocchorum.

The issue is that the more correct name is Bocchoris; Bocchorum is just a declension of the noun in Latin, e.g., cited in a passage by Pliny the Elder

The version in Catalan is in line, with the correct name, Bocchoris.

How do I rename the Bocchorum page without altering the other, which is about the king of Egypt Bakenranef, also known as Bocchoris? Right now if you type Bocchoris it redirects you to Bakenranef.

Cheers

Pep marfran (talk) 19:31, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Teahouse. You can create a disambiguation page to address this kind of problems. Refer Wikipedia:Disambiguation. In this case, the redirect itself can act as the disambiguation page. When you type 'Bocchoris' and get redirected to Bakenranef, you can see the text "Redirected from Bocchoris" below the title. Click on Bocchoris there, which will take you to the redirect page. You can convert this redirect page into a disambiguation page by including links to both the articles and a single line description to identify them. Feel free to ask if you require any more help to do this. --Anbu121 (talk me) 19:44, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Pep, you should also move Bocchorum to Bocchoris (city), that deals with your original issue about the whole name. Using city will distinguish it from the other article. NtheP (talk) 20:05, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to upload image and then add it to the infobox?

How to upload image and then add it to the infobox? Sohebbasharat (talk) 18:45, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Welcome to the teahouse. To upload an image, use Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. If you are the author of the image, and are willing to grant anyone the permission to use it however they want, go ahead and upload the image to Wikimedia Commons. However, if the image is copyrighted, please keep in mind Wikipedia's guidelines on non-free images. Copyrighted images must have a valid rationale indicating that the image qualifies for fair use. Once the image is uploaded, insert the file name into the infobox. (Some infoboxes require a "File:" before the image name, others don't. It depends on the template that is used.) Hope that helps,--xanchester (t) 18:51, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

deleted page

My account was blocked, (something to do with an inappropriate user name). I didn't know I was doing anything wrong. Now, even though I've received an email to say it's unblocked, my work has gone. Hours upon hours of listing botanical species - GONE! I find the reporting process very complicated, and I don't how how to go forward. Please help. Does this mean all my hard work has gone? Ferry Lane Estate Wildlife (talk) 15:37, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi there, and welcome to the The Teahouse. Many new users will start an account here representing some organization, but for a variety of reasons, we generally do not allow people to make user names representing some entity other than themselves. You've done the right thing by requesting a change in username, though Bwilkins (talk · contribs) has asked you some questions on your talk page that you need to respond to before your request will be accepted.
As for your deleted material, was it the content on your user page? It's possible you may be able to recover your work by asking the deleting administrator (Mufka (talk · contribs) to e-mail or move the material. The reason it was deleted was because you were using a your userpage presumably to host an article. If it was about your organization, this would be an inappropriate use of userpage as it represents promotion of your company. In any case, one's user page should not be used to host articles-in-progress. I've asked Mufka to comment here, so hopefully this can be resolved. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 15:52, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The page is restored. I'd recommend moving it to User:Ferry Lane Estate Wildlife/Sandbox. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 17:25, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'll wait to see if the user changes their username, and move it then. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 21:24, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why discuss wiki on a wiki?

This relates to the problem I have just experienced in asking a question here at the teahouse.

If a person is having problems editing Wikipedia, it seems unhelpful to require them to describe the problem using the same wiki markup that is causing the problem in the first place. It would seem to me to make more sense if this Q and A was done using plain text (or a conventional web discussion forum) and not as wiki markup. Kerry (talk) 05:37, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kerry, unfortunately, Wikipedia doesn't currently have the ability to use a WYSIWYG editor right now; however, there is one in progress that you can test out at mw:VisualEditor:Test. Another option is to use the IRC channel at #wikipedia-en-help connect; however, some people have difficulty using IRC as well. Ryan Vesey 05:51, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am not asking for WYSIWYG, just plain text would do. Since Wikipedia's edit window appears to be plain text, why not use that same type of window? There is a certain "arrogance" to the logic of insisting wiki markup be used for everything. Sure, wikis are useful for certain applications, but not all. Kerry (talk) 06:09, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that editors would initially have problems using wiki-markup initially (I have seen much discussion on this during my time here). However, we have no choice because this page still runs on Wikimedia software, which demands the use of mark-ups. However, that being said, I don't think any of my fellow editors here on the teahouse would take issue with the wrong wiki-markups used here. I would say that the only way to change this situation you mentioned is to hope that Wikimedia quickly develops a usable WYSIWYG fast. Meanwhile, do continue to ask your questions here and do not worry about giving the wrong wikitext or something. We are here to help after all. As for editing other places on Wikipedia, there is the WikiProject Wikify which deal with such problems on articles (just tag it {{wikify}}). There is also a helpbar above this editor to help with the basics of wikitext. The "Help" section contains particularly useful information.Last but not least, it is possible to use Wikipedia's edit window here. See the edit button at the top right hand corner? Click on it and scroll down till you see the line "<!-- HI! PLEASE ENTER YOUR QUESTION USING THE QUESTION BOX. BUT IF YOU ARE ENTERING YOUR QUESTION MANUALLY, PUT IT RIGHT HERE↓ -->". Add a new section below it (== Your Question title ==) and edit as per any other Wikipedia talk page. Hope this comment is useful. Happy editing!--Lionratz (talk) 10:03, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. this Q and A could be run on one of the many other discussion forums out there, eg google Groups , facebook etc. There isn't a good reason to use wiki markup in this case and indeed a good reason not to if the intention is to support new users with markup questions. Kerry (talk) 13:02, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two things have already been pointed out above. First, that Q and A is already available in a non-wiki format, on IRC. (There are also various Wikimedia mailing lists which get a lot of traffic, although I don't know if they have one dedicated to help questions.) Second, that new users not being familiar with wiki markup does not prevent them asking a question here, or indeed reading the answer. (In other words, if they forget to sign their posts or whatever, a human or a bot will do it for them.) If you feel there is a need for a help facility on Facebook or Google Groups or any other social network, I don't see why you shouldn't go ahead and set one up. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 14:21, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I was prevented from asking my question About templates because the markup got in the way, and someone did take issue with it, so the assertion that it does not prevent Q and Aappears to be ill-informed. For people with disabilities using special keyboards (I can't use a regular keyboard), the common characters for markup such as brackets, pipes, etc are not always available, making it much more complicated and time consuming to create them. i know of irc but cannot use it, I was told to come here for friendly help and I made my suggestion in spirit of trying to help others and thank you to those of you who took it seriously in your responses. while I have physical limitations,for many it is a conceptual barrier. If this forum is ro be helpful, it needs to be more accessible. Kerry (talk) 16:04, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kerry, when you open a screen to edit, does it look like this?

If so then is a drop down menu (in the picture it says Insert, if you select the option Wiki markup then you will see most of the special characters like brackets and pipes that can be selected by clicking on them (sorry I am assuming here that your accessibility issues do not prevent the use of a mouse or similar). Until the interface is improved this is probably about as good as it gets. NtheP (talk) 20:20, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

coordinate templates do not work

I am trying to use the Coord template for the City of South Brisbane but all I get onscreen is

Template:Coord/display/City of South Brisbane

in red. Also, I know how to find out if someone has written my talk page but how to do I find out if there is an answer to this question. Could you please email e-mail address removed, user has Special:emailuser enabled as otherwise I don't know how to find out. Kerry (talk) 03:24, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, and welcome to the teahouse! First of all, I'd like to point out that I did in fact remove your email from the page. If you wish to replace it, go right ahead, but us users here can email you through the Special:EmailUser feature without knowing your e-mail, to help prevent spam from clogging your inbox. If you'd like to permanently have your email removed from the server's history of this page, you can request it to be oversighted which will remove it from everyone's view forever. Now on to your question. Try using this: {{Template:Coord|(degrees north or south)|(minutes n/s)|(seconds n/s)|(N/S)|(degrees east or west)|(minutes e/w)|(seconds e/w)|(E/W)|display=title}} replacing degrees, minutes, and seconds with two digit numbers, and the N/S and E/W with the letter corresponding to its latitude and longitude. This information can be found many places online, including Google Maps, etc. Alternatively, if you use {{Template:Coord|(degrees N/S with up to 3 decimals)|(N/S)|(degrees E/W with up to 3 decimals)|(E/W)|display=title}} it will show up as a decimal instead. Again, just replace the numbers with your lat/lon coordinates. Hope this helps! gwickwire | Leave a message 03:36, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is what I did. I copied the appropriate template (the one with decimal degrees using postive/negatives rather than NSEW) from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Coord and just changed the specifics but it does not work. I wish you would explain how to email Wikipedia users as it is very difficult to use this idea of talk pages and it's not private either. Kerry (talk) 03:45, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically I copied and pasted this one {{Coord|44.112|-87.913|display=title}} Kerry (talk) 03:47, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to see what I typed, you will have to look in Edit mode as it does not display otherwise Kerry (talk) 03:49, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you do me a favor and copy the template (from the {{ to }} and then try it? Copy it directly from the page view mode, not from the edit window. Then fill in the information and see if it works. The two problems in the one you used the first time are your use of / instead of the vertical pipe | . Also, you need to specify the coordinate, not the city, in one of the two formats in my above comment. Thanks! gwickwire | Leave a message 03:56, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's here in this thread. Look up a few lines at the sentence starting "Specifically I copied and pasted this one". The copy-and-paste is there but you cannot see it because it does not display unless you look in Edit mode.Kerry (talk) 04:03, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is what it says Kerry (talk) 04:23, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kerry! It is great to see you at the Teahouse. :) The problem ended up being an odd one - like you, I thought when I read it that "title" had to be replaced with the name of the location the coordinates are for, but if you do that the template breaks. Instead, you need to leave the word "title" in place and enter
{{Coord|-27.48282|153.02545|display=title}}
The display tag refers to where to display the coordinates on the page, rather than anything to do with the location that the coordinates are pointing to, so "display=title" simply says to add the coordinates to the top of the article. - Bilby (talk) 06:30, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And in this case, the top of the Teahouse! We probably should remove it so that people don't get confused. Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 06:34, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done. :) - Bilby (talk) 06:38, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So this would appear be to a design and/or a documentation error? I mean if the purpose is to be a layout parameter, then why would you call this "title", a word that has a very different meaning in terms o page semantics? Why not call it "top" which would then be less ambiguous? This is why it is a design error, which should be fixed or at least better documented. Should I "be bold" and fix it? Kerry (talk) 12:51, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How do I change my username?

I've already read the Wikipedia page which details it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CHU) but where do I post or send my request?

Thanks.

Moffittsharmeka (talk) 02:49, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can you tell us more about why you are seeking a renaming? That way I can direct you to the right people to get your request done! Thanks, gwickwire | Leave a message 03:12, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've already resolved the issue but thanks anyway. Moffittsharmeka (talk) 03:30, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I want to put an image from an external website into a wikipedia article

What is the code to do this? [url] doesn't achieve it. StuZealand (talk) 01:29, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Stu, and welcome to the Teahouse! The first step will be to check the file's permissions. I would be very happy to do this for you if you just provide a link, using the [ ] brackets, to the file. If the permissions check out, me or another editor can help you upload it to Wikipedia (or if appropriate, Wikimedia Commons), and add it to the article. Thanks for the question, and feel free to ask if I haven't been clear! gwickwire | Leave a message 01:34, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

delete an uploaded file

How do I delete an uploaded image (jpeg) file? It was uploaded using the Upload Wizard. Where does it reside? How is this different from Wikimedia Commons? Plarkin50 (talk) 00:49, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Plarkin, and welcome! Could you please provide a link to the image if you have one? Or if you don't have a link, could you provide me the title of the image? Also, why exactly do you need to delete it (wrong permission, unused, etc)? If you give me the name you used when uploading it, I can go check it out for you. Thanks! gwickwire | Leave a message 01:36, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Permission Problems

Hello, I'm User:helendixon1960 I have a question about permission on uploading a picture. I got the image off Google and I uploaded it but it says that I need permission so they image would get through. I tried to e-mail the official permission e-mail address but it wouldn't go through.

Can someone show me the steps how to get permission or should I re-upload the image?

Thanks! - 33:35 November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome Helen! Most pictures you find on Google aren't going to be able to be used here on Wikipedia. Check out Wikimedia Commons if you're looking for a picture to add to an article. Go Phightins! 00:36, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please it is crucial the creation of the following locator maps:

1)Cyprus-Iraqi Kurdistan 2)Cyprus-UAE IsrArmen (talk) 22:49, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back! The Maps Wiki-Project page is likely the best place to request these. Thanks--Go Phightins! 23:07, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That link’s more of a resource page for map-makers. There’s a request board for maps at the Graphics Lab.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 20:25, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looking advice on create band entry

I created an entry for an indie rock band who have just got airplay on BBC 6Music. The article was refused when I submitted it and the editor said I should ask here for advice as he doesn't specialise in music. The band had no biographical info on the playlist and I saw that the BBC uses wikipedia to get it. The band have been promised more airplay on 6Music so I'd be keen to have an article that can be used by the BBC when making new playlists. They are also due to get an interview on BBC Radio Foyle later this month so I imagine there will be another track played then and another playlist on BBC website. Here is the link to my page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Musicfan1812/sandbox Musicfan1812 (talk) 19:57, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Musicfan, if you haven't been given this link, go to WP:BAND. It sounds like the band may not be notable yet, but it's possible they will be, at which time there will be sufficient sources for them to have an article.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:08, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think that part of the issue is that there is not enough local knowledge on Wikipedia. BBC Radio Foyle is an autonomous service unique in the BBC, no other region in the UK has two regional radio stations. The band have had airplay for the first album, exceptional praise and the follow up of an interview for the second album, they have been mentioned in the Derry Journal which is the paper of record in the area, established in 1772, which makes them notable in the local area, plus this month twice being featured in national radio. There is a chicken and an egg aspect here, the BBC uses Wikipedia as an authoritative source but by not being featured on Wikipedia it dilutes the impact the band makes on playlists as band information is derived from Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicfan1812 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 2 November 2012 (UTC) Musicfan1812 (talk) 22:42, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not supposed to be used to promote a company or organization, and it should not necessarily be regarded as reliable. It sounds like the band might meet our qualifications, though, but the key is independent reliable sources.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:29, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone add the locator map on the following articles?

Locator maps already exist but I do not know how to add them in the articles:

- Cyprus–Sweden relations - Australia-Cyprus relationsIsrArmen (talk) 19:21, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IsrArmen, can you give us links to the specific maps you'd like to include? MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:23, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
IsrArmen, I've fixed Cyprus-Sweden, you were almost right but the names of the two countries needed to be the other way round. There is a locator map for Australia-Cyprus but there is no article, currently it is a redirect to Foreign relations of Australia. If you expand it into an article then you need to use the code
{{Infobox bilateral relations | Australia - Cyprus | Australia | Cyprus | filetype=svg }}. Hope this helps. NtheP (talk) 19:52, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Done: for the Cyprus–Sweden relations article. Northamerica1000(talk) 19:45, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot guys for your help!!! I really appreciate that! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IsrArmen (talk • contribs) 21:21, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Erroneous re-naming of a waterway map

I have erroneously re-named a waterway map it will not let me rectify this. If I try to edit the map I get redirected to a template M.F. W-Venables (talk) 15:25, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed it for you. Please check if that's what you wanted to do. The map was transcluded to the article from a template. You can edit the template here:Template:River Arun map. --Anbu121 (talk me) 15:47, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PEERLESS GUITARS

Hello,

I have tried to create text for Peerless Guitars and also listed them under 'guitar brands' 3 times now, but the editorial does not remain. I believe that I am following instructions properly, but am unsure if the text is being removed by Wikipedia for some reason? 109.152.188.244 (talk) 12:50, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, welcome to Wikipedia and the teahouse! Could you add a link to or specify precisely which the article you edited? I cannot really find your edit and thus cannot be more specific in my help. Some reasons Wikipedia removes information: blatant vandalism, not notable information, copyright violations or unreferenced information (quite rare to remove this, but it is still part of our content policy). Does your edit fall under any of these category? --Lionratz (talk) 13:07, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article creation Help

Hello, I am new at wikipedia recently a create one or two articles on wikipedia they are declined by wiki-members and I received a message that your article is declined due to advertisement or due to references.

Here is the article that I have posted:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Anchorfree

Please explain me what is wrong in this article as anchorfree is a reputable company also please give your tips of improvement so that I can modify it.

Satinder Singh (talk) 05:58, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Satinder Singh, and welcome to the teahouse. The reviewer's concern is actually that the article reads like an advertisement, not that the company is not notable (the word we use instead of "reputable". He is also concerned about a conflict of interest, since you wrote the word "our" in the security section. Are you an employee of the company or are somehow related to this company?
Having read your article, I would say that the "security" and "Products and Services" sections do sound like an advertisement. For example, you added the sentence "It has the ability to turn all your HTTP traffic into HTTP(S)". This sounds like a blatant advertisement, as it seems you are trying to promote the good points of this product/company. Perhaps you might want to reword these sections so it will sound more neutral?
Also, you might want to add some negative information of this company, if possible. For example, when it was used in the middle east uprising, did the governments there do something about it? (eg: block it/criticize it/targeted it) Of course, this needs to have some references as well. In conclusion, try to make the article sound more like something you would find in an encyclopedia, not the official website of the company. These are the problems I can spot so far... Hope this helps. Happy editing!--Lionratz (talk) 06:19, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article copy in sandbox

Since joining I've been mostly tidying up the content in list of uranium mines, especially the content of the various tables etc.

Since there is aa fair bit of this to do and I only get a shortish run at it each time, is it legitimate to create a copy of the page in my sandbox and work on it there? And if so is there an approved way to do that, other than copying and pasting the content from the edit page?

Or should I just keep doing incremental amendments on the live article?

Thanks in advance. Myall blues (talk) 05:38, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Myall blues, welcome to Wikipedia and the teahouse! One problem I would foresee about copying the entire page and working in your own sandbox is the possibility that someone will make an edit before you. The article you are working on will then be an outdated one, and when you paste it back, editors might get angry because their edits are undone for no apparent reason. My suggestion will be to add the under construction template to inform other editors that you are working (and making large changes) on it. I don't recall any rules prohibiting you from copying and pasting from edit pages, so that should not be a problem either. Therefore, you can actually do it in the two ways you mentioned. Just that I would recommend doing the incremental approach way so that you can be sure that you are editing the latest and most updated version of the article. Good luck in your editing!--Lionratz (talk) 06:37, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Lionratz - sincere thanks for the prompt response. Myall blues (talk) 08:52, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. Happy editing!--Lionratz (talk) 12:55, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Myall blues, there's a slogan "Wikipedia has no deadline" that really applies here. Linoratz has some good suggestions, though I would note that "under construction" is more used for things like "I'm right this minute making edits, so don't cause an edit conflict in the next 10 minutes." Possibly a yet better tag would be Template:Expand list. Given that what you're making is a list, so long as folks don't mistakenly assume it's "complete" it's not doing any harm to have a partial list. There are a few circumstances under which too-short of an article could be unproductive (like an article about a murderer where the article is too short to even say what he was arrested for), but lists are very often incomplete by their nature, so I'd just make one single article, tag it as "expand list", and work on it at your leisure on the articlespace. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:07, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

how can i add pictures from different wikipedias to the english one??

so i noticed that there are pictures in some wikipedias like the russian or the german wikipedias that dont exist in the english wikipedia articles, i cant just copy their name from their native wikipedias since i suppose they simple dont exist in the english wikipedia. How can i bring them into english wikipedia??--Venajaguardian (talk) 01:35, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Welcome to the teahouse. If the pictures were uploaded on Wikimedia Commons, you should have no problem accessing them here using [[File:Whatevertheimagenameisoncommons.jpg]]. Could you link to the pictures? I'll be more than happy to help.--xanchester (t) 01:44, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Styling Talk/User Page

Hey... I am new to Wikipedia. Where do I find tips on styling my talk/user pages. They seem bland at the moment and from viewing other users talk and user pages I developed a desire to improve mine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Airbender3 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Airbender, welcome to the Teahouse. The easiest way of designing your own user page is to have a look at other users and when you find ones that you like, view the source to the page and copy the bits of coding you like to your own page. NtheP (talk) 21:35, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi and welcome. You can also take a look at the user page design center if you'd like...it has some tips, templates, featured designs, etc. Go Phightins! 21:47, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah Thanks guys. User:Go Phightins! I had a look at the page design center! Great stuff!!! Airbender3 (Talk) 21:52, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Images from flickr

Are images from flickr allowed, and if so what permission is needed? FOX 52 (talk) 16:50, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome to the teahouse. Certain images are allowed. See the chart on Wikipedia:Upload/Flickr. The license must be CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, or in the public domain. Hope that helps.--xanchester (t) 16:57, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Hi FOX 25 and welcome to the Teahouse! Images from Flickr can be uploaded at Wikipedia:Upload/Flickr. That page should give detailed information on whether an image is acceptable or not if the image was not created by you. However, if you created the image yourself, and you give permission to freely distribute the image, there shouldn't be any issue.
Anonymouse321 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you FOX 52 (talk) 01:06, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please we need the creation of a new map of Azerbaijan that would exclude Nagorno Karabakh republic which is no longer under its control.

The independent country of Nagorno Karabakh is still shown in the current map of Azerbaijan. As the talkpage of Azerbaijan site discusses there should be a new map showing the real territory that goverment of Azerbaijan administers and has a legitimise to exercise its power.

There should be a map like Georgia (country) that currently excludes with a light colour South Ossetia and Abkhazia — Preceding unsigned comment added by IsrArmen (talk • contribs) 13:08, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IsrArmen, I'm generally familiar with that area so I get your point, but can you point out specifically which map(s) you're referring to? Are you referring to the main one at the top of Azerbaijan, this one here: File:Azerbaijan_(orthographic_projection).png? And you're asking why Nagorno-Karabakh isn't in a lighter colour, like how the contested areas of Georgia are on this map: File:Georgia (orthographic projection with inset).svg? The place you'll need to address the issue is at Talk:Azerbaijan. Please do note, this exact topic apparently comes up a lot, there are three different posts about it just on the current page, and undoubtedly more on that Talk page's archive. I would strongly suggest that you:
  • First read that Talk page and any mentions of the map in its archives; if you come storming in without having read past discussions, people will be less supportive because they don't want to repeat the same argument over and over again.
  • Secondly, remain calm and civil at all times, even if not everyone is. Any neutral editors brought in to assist in debates are going to look poorly on whichever side of an argument acts uncivil, so avoid any personal attacks, accusations, etc. and make sure your arguments are based on Wikipedia policy.
  • If you genuinely feel, after looking into the history of the map discussion, that people aren't being neutral enough, you can check in with WP:WikiProject Maps, where you can talk to other editors who specialise in maps overall, and may have perspective on standardising issues like contested territories.
Hope this helps, and I emphasise again that you want to read all the former discussions about maps in the archives of Talk:Azerbaijan. Being the fourth person on the page to show up and loudly demand a change, with no context, no formal Wikipedia-procedures argument, etc is not going to get anyone anywhere. Feel free to check in back here if you have further questions. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:16, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, worth looking at the maps we already have - at [1]. Rich Farmbrough, 02:50, 2 November 2012 (UTC).[reply]
Yep, I expect he's suggesting that this one be used as the primary image at Azerbaijan: File:Azerbaijan with Nagorno Karabakh region.svg. That said, there should be consensus on the Talk page first. I really doubt that he could just change the image without it being quickly reverted, so best to talk it out first. MatthewVanitas (talk) 04:28, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Image upload and display.

Hi,

I'm simply wondering how to upload images and place them im a sidebar on the right-hand side.

Thanks!

Renaissancefan (talk) 00:12, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Renaissancefan and welcome to the Teahouse! There are two options for uploading files; you can decide which works best. If the image is being used under fair use guidelines, then you must use the File Upload Wizard. (Sorry for the legalese in the fair use guidelines page, the only way I can sum it up is already done so in the "page in a nutshell" section) If you own the image, you can upload it either through the file upload wizard or to The Wikimedia Commons, a database of freely usable media files to which anyone can contribute; The Wikipedia of Media if you will. Once you have uploaded the image, you go to the page you want to add it to, and click the little picture icon in the edit wizard, and follow the template there. Again, I apologize for the lengthy response, but file upload is one of our more cumbersome processes. Go Phightins! 01:19, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Renaissancefan! The sidebar is called an "infobox" (see WP:Infobox), and there are hundreds of them for all kinds of topics. A good way to find out which one you can use for your article would be to find a similar figure and simply copy their infobox to your article, and fill in your own details. For example, if you're writing the biography of a physicist, find another physicist's biography and see what infobox that article used, and copy it to yours. Most infoboxes have a line where you can enter a photo to illustrate the box, but make sure you observe how the coding is done so it'll display right. Just taking a close look at "how the other articles get it right" is one of the best ways for a lot of things here! MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:19, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks so much to both of you! I will give it a go. *fingers crossed* 184.69.5.66 (talk) 21:06, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Articles on a free service

Hi

How would I go about writing an article on a service which is provided for free but the owners have commercial interests in it. Let me clarify with an example... Facebook is free to signup but serves ads and earns revenue. Now let's say that the company is not trademarked or displaying registration information. Therefore I would be under belief that using there logo on the article wouldn't be a copyright violation. Or would it? How would I get permission if it is violation. Furthermore what about screenshots of the service? Any other info on this??

Its my first article...— Preceding unsigned comment added by Airbender3 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome the the TeaHouse. I advise you to write the text of the article and find sources for it as the first things to do. They're the place to start. Stuartyeates (talk) 23:00, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Question moved to top of page. NtheP (talk) 23:10, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for a certain policy/recommendation/essay

Hey all! I can't remember where to find the pages that talk about "why an article is not okay when it is just like this other article that exists". Can you remind me? heather walls (talk) 18:26, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Heather, welcome to the Teahouse! If I recall correctly, there are two: the one normally used is WP:OTHERSTUFF, which is a subset of "Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions", and there's also a full essay that expands on the principle at WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect! Thank you so much! heather walls (talk) 18:31, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse textbox

Hello guests and hosts !

I'm a member of the New users project team on French Wikipedia. We are looking for the documentation about one of the teahouse features : the ask a question button and the wonderful question form. We would like to deploy it on the "Forum des nouveaux", a teahouse-like on French Wikipedia.

Thanks for your answers, Trizek from FR 14:06, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Trizek! It's always awesome to hear from people on other language Wikipedias! The question button and form is a sitewide opt-out Javascript gadget (it's on by default). The source code is at MediaWiki:Gadget-teahouse/content.js, and it's imported from MediaWiki:Gadget-teahouse.js. It'll take a few tweaks, but I don't think it would be that difficult to use it on the French Wikipedia. There's also a fallback built into the button itself for anyone who doesn't have the gadget (if they don't have Javascript enabled, for example) that basically turns it into a "New section" button. Is that what you're looking for? Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 14:15, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot ! I have all answers I need ! Trizek from FR —Preceding undated comment added 14:19, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to diplomatically defuse 'ownership'

Hi there. In my initial attempts to contribute by improving some stubs about a subject I'm interested in, I seem to have inadvertently offended a more established editor who has protested thatthey should be 'left alone' to manage pages they created. That doesn't sound like how Wikipedia is meant to work, but I'm not here to create enemies. I've left what I hope is a friendly message on the other editor's talk page inviting collaboration, but have so far just got some fairly blunt language in return. I'm not offended by that, but I'd appreciate advice on the best way to avoid adding to tensions or unintentionally igniting an 'edit war'. Should I keep trying to contribute to this area of Wikipedia while continuing to offer the other editor olive branches, or just bow out and find a different area of the encyclopedia to contribute to?SnrRailways (talk) 13:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and welcome to the teahouse! Wikipedia is the free Encyclopedia anyone can edit, and there is no so called "ownership" of an article. Reading what you wrote, the other editor seems kind of unfriendly, but we could settle things out and talk it out nicely. If its not a must to edit that desired article, then just abide by his wishes (though a bit unreasonable). After all, its always good to have less enemies! (But i understand, we always feel like we sort of "own" the article we create, Thats how i used to feel too! :))

I hope this helps. Once again, welcome to Wikipedia! Cheers!! Bonkers The Clown (talk) 13:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Bonkers (what a cool name, by the way). Yes, I can understand how the other editor feels, and as a newbie I guess I want to find people to co-operate with, not pick fights! Are you essentially suggesting that I try to find out what pages that editor really feels strongly should be 'hands off', then move on to another are of Wikipedia? That sounds OK to me.SnrRailways (talk) 14:00, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well SnrRailways (what a cool compliment, by the way) Im not really encouraging such actions of an ownership claim over a certain article, but saying that if the editor really is sticky about it and you cant win the edit war, then just forget bout that article. It won't hurt and both sides are satisfied. :) Edit articles of your interest! Bonkers The Clown (talk) 14:11, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again - you're a wise clown! I'll see if the other editor responds to my previous message and try to have that conversation if and when they do. 'Grateful for your encouragement.SnrRailways (talk) 14:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
My view is really that Wikipedia is based on collaboration so the user shouldn't have issues with you assisting and really if the user does have issues then he/she should create the article in their own userspace and once it is completed they should publish it.

Alternatively use there sandbox. As far as possible, even though I am new to Wikipedia I would suggest avoiding edit wars as far as possible. Every subject has many articles that you could create/edit. Airbender3 (Talk) 22:42, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How do I resubmit an article for peer review after edits according to reviewer comments?

Hi, I had submitted an article for creation and had received comments from a reviewer to do some alterations. I have followed the comments and edited the article. However, I do not know how to resubmit it. I have indicated my comments below the reviewer comments within the article itself and saved it. I also created a talk page for the article stating that I have edited the article. Is there a resubmission process, or any coding that I should put within the article for resubmission for review? Thanks for the help. Kevylyap (talk) 11:41, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Kevylyap, hi and welcome. Looks like you've already done it. Looking at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Pharmacocybernetics it's got the right banner at the top. If you need to resubmit again for any reason just add

{{subst:submit}} to the top of the page. One comment I'd make now about your draft is that you should change the hyperlinks to wikilinks. You have lots of linked terms to other articles which is great but you've used hyperlinks like [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/wiki/Medicine medicine] when the wikilink [[medicine]] does the job a lot more simply. NtheP (talk) 13:03, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NtheP, thanks for the answer. I did not understand the difference between wikilinks and actual hyperlinks. I will change the wikipedia hyperlinks to wikilinks instead. Appreciate the help. Kevylyap (talk) 17:33, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Missing reference tags

For the life of me I can't figure out where the citation needs ref tags. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Richards_Group

Maybe I'm using the edit function wrong. I wanted to add a citation about the clients list on this article. Daemperorofdaworld (talk) 13:29, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Daemperor, and welcome to the Teahouse. You'd placed a reference after the {{reflist}} template, meaning that the software couldn't parse it correctly. In addition, the citation template contained <ref> tags inside it, which also bewilders the poor Mediawiki software. I've fixed both issues for you. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much, Yunshui!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daemperorofdaworld (talk • contribs) 19:12, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

disambig page format

Morning Wiki!

My first article added at Greenfish recirculation technology! Great fun!

I am however not shure I've departed from MOS in the GREENFISH disambig page? I found it more clear to present several fish species with the same common name in a table. Is this allowed.

Have a great night!

Björn Linden Urban Greenfish Urban Greenfish (talk) 05:24, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bjorn, welcome to the Teahouse. Disambiguation is an interesting area, I could see what you were trying to do but I don't think it did meet with Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages. Fish species isn't a strongpoint of mine (it's not even a very weak point!) but fortunately the issue of a common name being used by several species isn't new and there are loads of articles on them (see Category:Fish common names). So what I've done is made Greenfish a page solely for the fish species (layout based on Dragonfish) and moved all the other items, including a link to Greenfish to Greenfish (disambiguation). I've also checked the "What links here" for both pages to make sure that any links are pointing to the correct article. There were other methods that could have been used but this way allows you (or anyone else) to develop Greenfish into a full article, should you wish to do so. NtheP (talk) 13:44, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

deletion of MaK(Verge Game Studio) and Verge Game Studio

I do not mean to seem unfriendly! Currently Kinu deleted the two mentioned articles. In case or "Verge Game Studio" I can understand because of the speedy deletion and I read and understood his arguments, but I dont think that the article "MaK(Verge Game Studio)" meets with the argumentation! Both articles were under constuction and on Mak was a mark that I have seven days to edit more details. About the advertisement: I tried to make the two sides objective, so I generally took the two sides Mojang and Minecraft as templates and inserted information i could find over the company and the game. I also got the affirmation from Verge Game Studio that they would increase the information by quality and quantity.

If you recognize my argumentation why this sides didn't need to be deleted, is there a way to restore them of do a have to make them in my sandbox first?

thanks

P.S: New account, my old one "Bot91" also got deleted :(Bau912 (talk) 12:08, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Bau912, and welcome to the teahouse! Hope you enjoy your stay here in Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia anyone can edit! Concerning your deleted material, you might wish to consider sending the admin who deleted your work a request to have it back so you can better work on it. Your efforts are much appreciated and once again, welcome to wikipedia! Bonkers The Clown (talk) 12:59, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again Bau912. Bonkers suggestion is excellent! Just some additional help. The administrator that deleted the article Verge Game Studio is User:Kinu and he can be reached at his user talk page (click the "talk" link when viewing his user name). When you approach him, you'll want to ask him if he can convert the deleted article to a draft article in your "user space". The "user space" is any page which is prefixed by your user name (so User:Bau912/sandbox could be the name of a "sandbox" or draft space within your user space). If you cannot reach Kinu in a timely manner, you can also make a request at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion where another administrator can respond to your request. The special "Wikipedia word" we use for these requests is called "userfying" (as in "moved to my user space".) The advantage of a "userfied" article is that it can be developed into a proper article at your own pace, and you are generally given more leeway in working on the article and bringing it up to standard before it is "published" in the main article space. You also have the option of using the Wikipedia:Articles for creation process, which is an optional process for new users (or even experienced users) to get help and feedback as they create new articles. Does any of this help? --Jayron32 13:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks guys for the help, but i simply made new articles as user pages and marked them for submission. In the end the easiest way to create an acceptable article :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bau912 (talk • contribs) 12:03, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What purpose has the option of adding Categorie: ... exactly?

What purpose has the option of adding Categorie: ... exactly?Bot91 (talk) 01:52, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Bot91. Welcome to Wikipedia. Glad you came here to ask your questions. The short answer is: Indexing...Categorizing makes finding information you may be searching for much easier. For example you may be wanting to find out about a bridge you crossed on your last trip to Indiana, but all you remember is that it was in Indiana. You could go to Category:Bridges in Indiana and there they all are. Hope that clears the reason for categories.Gtwfan52 (talk) 02:23, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Bot91. The purpose of Wikipedia categories is to allow people to find other articles that are similar. It is a way of creating an index of articles by topic. So, for example, George Washington is categorized in many categories, both "United States Army generals" and "United States Presidents". I can find other people who are also United States Army Generals by using Category:United States Army generals, for example. It is a very useful system for organizing articles. See Wikipedia:FAQ/Categorization for answers to some questions you may have about categories, including the one you just asked. --Jayron32 02:25, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! Categories, along with lists and navigation templates, are different methods of grouping articles. All three methods serve as navigation aids on Wikipedia. The FAQ that Jayron32 mentioned is a great starting point. For a more detailed explanation of the advantages and disadvantages of using categories, see Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#Categories. Cheers,--xanchester (t) 02:55, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This section was deleted by Bau912, which is (I believe) the new user name for Bot91. Unless I misunderstand how the Teahouse works, a user shouldn't delete a question with the answers which it has received. There should be time for other readers to see the question and answers (& if necessary to amplify the answers). The question and answers will be archived in a few days, but ought not to be deleted before then. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:17, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks guys, solved! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bau912 (talk • contribs) 12:04, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Changing an image file type

How can I update a reduced image with a new file type? Currently the two types are not compatible.

Daniel Kivari (talk) 18:57, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Daniel, and welcome to the teahouse! I'm not certain, but I'm guessing you're trying to upload an image that's in a file format that WP doesn't support, and you've figured out that just renaming the file doesn't help. If I'm correct so far, try loading the file into any application that will let you view the image and then try "Save As" and select a new filetype there. If that doesn't work, let us know the file type you're working with and someone else here might be able to help. GaramondLethe 19:28, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the welcome! Actually, the issue is that the nature of the file as a logo does not warrant the use of a jpg file. I have converted it successfully to a png file, but Wikipedia will not upload the file, because of the conflict in the extensions. [File:Kenner Collegiate Vocational Institute Logo (blue).jpg] --Daniel Kivari (talk) 19:37, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Citation

This may sound like a daft question.But genuinely what is the purpose of citation and/or footnotes within a Wikipedia article. How important is it and does it break any rules when not used. Thanks.--Jeffasiedu (talk) 22:36, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Jeffasiedu, and welcome to the TeaHouse. Both the existence and content of every wikipedia article is directly dependent on the sources that underpin it, whether those sources are references or footnotes. Articles without sources are liable to get deleted with little or no notice. Sections of articles and individual claims without sources are liable to be trimmed. So to answer your question, the footnotes are vitally important. Stuartyeates (talk) 23:18, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As Stuart said, footnotes are what make Wikipedia work! Otherwise, anything could be added -- which would basically make Wikipedia useless as a research source -- as you wouldn't not what was true and what wasn't. You may want to take a look at this page for a bit more policy-ish text on "Verifiability", if reading that kind of stuff floats your boat. Theopolisme Boo! 00:16, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The use of company/personal websites as references.

I was recently started an article on an online performance group called the Plaintext Players that was deleted because, so far, it only referenced both the companies website http://yin.arts.uci.edu/~players/ and the founders website http://www.forger.com .

I was further going to add sections which referenced academic text such as http://playground151.servus.at/sites/default/files/OP6_HelenJamieson.pdf

My question is, I've noticed various other articles on wikipedia that use company websites and personal websites in their references in combination with actual academic text, is it ok to use company websites and personal websites when used in combination with other sources? Or can they never be used? (should the articles i found on wikipedia be notified?)

I'm new to wikipedia and eager to learn. SWalton91 (talk) 18:11, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

SWalton, welcome to the Teahouse. Use of company and/or personal websites is ok in limited circumstances, for example, to establish non-controversial facts like date of founding, but as Wikipedia wants to establish the notability of the company then the evidence needs to be from reliable Independent sources which indicate how the company is at least acknowledged, if not well regarded by the rest of the world. NtheP (talk) 18:29, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! Company and personal websites are known as primary sources. As Nthep has said, primary sources can be used to verify non-controversial details, but cannot be used to demonstrate a subject's notability. Self-published primary sources are not considered reliable, which is why Wikipedia favours secondary, and to a lesser degree, tertiary sources..--xanchester (t) 18:37, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thankyou both User:Nthep and User:Xanchester So, correct me if i'm wrong, you're allowed to use their websites for information such as specific facts, dates of founding/performances and information only they can provide like how a piece was devised. For the rest of your article you should rely on secondary sources, articles written about the company from someone not involved with them. Your help is most useful, SWalton91 (talk) 19:38, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's correct, but only secondary and tertiary sources can be used as evidence of notability, and there must be significant coverage of the subject. A detailed article profiling the subject by the New York Times, for example. Trivial mentions by sources are usually not sufficient enough to meet the guidelines. Hope that helps,--xanchester (t) 21:09, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To help you out, I found some usable sources for you on the Plaintext Players. The Routledge Companion to English Language Studies published by Taylor & Francis, Women, Art, and Technology published by MIT Press, and Cyberpl@y: Communicating Online published by Bloomsbury. The subject does seem to be notable, but the page just needs more citations.--xanchester (t) 21:18, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
User:Xanchester Thank you very much that's incredibly useful, i'm going to be updating it on my sandbox tomorrow morning between 09.00 and 12.00 GMT and will provide you with a link. Your continued advice would be very helpful. SWalton91 (talk) 22:24, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
User:Xanchester I've now updated the initial overview of the Plaintext Players with more reliable sources (academic texts rather than personal websites). I'm about to undertake a section which details brief descriptions of their work, unfortunately the main source would be the company's website http://yin.arts.uci.edu/~players/, do you believe it would be allowed as a reliable source as it is conveying facts rather than subjective opinions on whether it's good or not. I learn as I do, SWalton91 (talk) 19:33, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
With caution, primary sources can be used, as long as the content is neutral and impartially written. Basic facts are fine, but analysis requires secondary sources. For further reading, see Wikipedia:No original research#Primary, secondary and tertiary sources. Keep up the good work, and cheers,--xanchester (t) 11:11, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
User: Xanchester Thank you very much. Basically you just need to keep it factual yet simple. Just make sure you have sources.

Yolofamicom22 (talk) 23:48, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HELLO.I WANT TO KNOW HOW I CAN CREATE A TEMPLATE IN WIKIPEDIA?Jaijibanswamiji (talk) 09:29, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

HELLO.I WANT TO KNOW HOW I CAN CREATE A TEMPLATE IN WIKIPEDIA?Jaijibanswamiji (talk) 09:29, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jaijibanswamiji, welcome to the Teahouse. Templates are created just like any other page on Wikipedia but are part of the Template namespace. You create one by naming your new page Template:name of your template. As templates can be quite complicated there are a number of places you can experiment before committing your page. These are the Template sandbox and the templates X1, X2, X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, X8 and X9.
Can I also ask that you switch off the caps lock key on your keyboard. Writing ALL IN CAPITALS, apart from being more difficult to read, is called shouting and can be considered rude behaviour by many editors. NtheP (talk) 10:14, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

thank you for your valuable suggestions.i did not know the concept of shouting.thanks once again NtheP.JaijibanswamijiJaijibanswamiji (talk) 16:38, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keeping a section of text inline with photos

I apologize if this is not the correct way to break into this page for a question but after many attempts to start a new section I finally gave up with what looks to be the intended way. The button at the top of the screen gives me a blank box overtop other text boxes and there is no new section tab at the top of the page either. Many of the text boxes overlap and many are unreadable due to overlapping??? The whole thing wreaks of a new browser language mine doesn't support or verse vica. /rant off:)

I am attempting to keep text that elaborates photo content but I cannot figure out how sections are kept together. I have used many new line break insertions in the section finale but I know this cannot be the correct way to do it See here for what I have done.There must be a better way but despite researching WP:MoS stuff I have resorted to calling for help. Thanks in advance. 174.118.142.187 (talk) 20:30, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seems User:Hertz1888 solved the problem for me. It appears WP formatting has a small bug in it that I have encountered before. Sections of text are not formatted into its final version until the editor leaves the article and then returns. The helping editor removed all the extra
chars from the end of the section and now it formatted just fine after I returned. No it wasn't a local cache thing as my latest edits were present in the text, after the save, just the formatting of the following section header wasn't appropriate. Thanks. 174.118.142.187 (talk) 20:42, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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